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Brad Setser on the Damage From Trump's Gigantic Tariff Shock

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Brad Setser
专注于全球化、贸易和税收政策的经济学家和政策分析师。
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Joe Weisenthal
通过播客和新闻工作,提供深入的经济分析和市场趋势解读。
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Traci Alloway
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Traci Alloway: 我认为特朗普政府的关税政策是本时代最重要的故事之一,甚至可能比2008年金融危机和2020年疫情冲击的影响更大。 我认为,与以往的银行危机不同,特朗普政府的关税政策是一种旨在彻底改变美国与世界其他国家关系以及国内经济的政策选择。 我认为,特朗普政府的关税政策是其自身造成的损害,他们知道这项政策会对市场产生影响。 Joe Weisenthal: 我认为美国应该加深与盟友的贸易关系,建立一个能够对抗中国不公平贸易行为的开放贸易集团,而不是采取单边行动。 我认为,特朗普政府的关税政策是基于一个荒谬的逻辑,即双边贸易顺差是衡量一个国家是否“作弊”的指标。 我认为,特朗普政府的关税政策可能会吓跑私人资本。 Brad Setser: 我认为特朗普政府最终选择了遵循特朗普总统的直觉,而不是其温和派顾问的建议,全面实施关税政策。 我认为,中国在制造业领域的贸易顺差巨大,这使得与中国的贸易变得非常困难。 我认为,美国应该与拥有相似经济体系和政治制度的国家保持相对一体化的贸易,而不是完全脱离世界经济。 我认为,美国选择了“美国优先”的政策,放弃了与邻国和长期朋友进行贸易的好处,代价高昂。 我认为,可以通过将供应链转移到与美国贸易相对平衡的国家来规避高关税。 我认为,可以利用USMCA协议规避部分关税。 我认为,特朗普政府的关税政策制定过程草率,缺乏认真评估。 我认为,关税政策对一些小经济体造成了不公平的影响。 我认为,虽然双边贸易模式可以提供一些信息,但特朗普政府的关税政策使用了不合理的公式。 我认为,如果特朗普政府决定缓和关税政策,那么经济衰退的风险将会降低。 我认为,特朗普政府似乎致力于改变美国和北美经济的基本结构,这将导致经济衰退。 我认为,特朗普政府的关税政策是对现有贸易体系的重大破坏。

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The hosts discuss the significant market and global reactions to Trump's new tariffs, comparing the potential impact to the 2008 financial crisis and the COVID-19 shock. They highlight the self-inflicted nature of the economic damage and the administration's awareness of the potential consequences.
  • Trump's new tariffs caused significant market sell-offs.
  • China responded with reciprocal tariffs.
  • The policy is seen as a deliberate attempt to restructure the US and global economies.
  • The administration was aware of the potential market impact but proceeded anyway.

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He needs no introduction: When trade is in the news, we speak with Brad Setser of the Council on Foreign Relations. Brad has been talking for awhile about the major imbalances of world trade, and the US-China relationship in particular. However, rather than building up a large trading bloc with our allies to counter Chinese influence, the Trump administration has chosen a path of going it alone, targeting friend and foe alike with large and wide-ranging tariffs. In this episode, we talk about the significance of the move, the potential damage, and what, if any, positive scenarios could result.Read More:Global Recession Fears Engulf Wall Street on Tariff Retaliation)Matt Levine: The Tariffs Have Some Math)

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