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Jim Chanos on Who's Getting Caught Swimming Naked

2025/4/12
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Joe Weisenthal: 市场下行会暴露出许多之前被掩盖的问题,例如不可持续的趋势和骗局。 Tracy Alloway: 市场下行会暴露出许多之前被掩盖的问题,例如不可持续的趋势和骗局。 Jim Chanos: 我们公司自1996年以来一直采取对冲策略,最近几周空头仓位收益显著高于市场整体表现。空头策略可以帮助投资者在其他投资中更安心地持有风险资产,因为在市场下行时空头仓位可以带来超额收益。空头策略的有效性在2018年至2021年期间有所下降,但在GameStop事件之后有所回升。传统的、为云计算而非人工智能设计的旧数据中心业务模式存在问题,其资本支出巨大,资本回报率极低。CoreWeave与NVIDIA之间的关系过于密切,这让人联想到2000年初电信设备行业的循环交易模式,这种模式在泡沫破裂时迅速瓦解。公司为了满足业绩目标而与客户和分销商进行的积极交易,可能预示着市场风险。人工智能领域可能出现多个赢家,但同时也会摧毁许多现有业务模式,就像互联网时代一样。私募股权投资本质上是利用杠杆增加公司负债,其所谓的稳定性是虚假的。私募股权基金的股价大幅下跌,表明其风险与股票基金相同,并且在退出困难的情况下,其行为可能会出现异常。一些私募股权基金要求投资者要么出售其有限合伙人投资,要么将其转移到下一只基金中,这表明市场环境正在恶化。私募股权和私募债务面临的噩梦情景是长期低迷的股权回报和高利率。当IPO窗口关闭、并购机会减少时,私募基金的普通合伙人可能会向有限合伙人道歉,并进行实物分红。关税对美国经济的影响将很快显现,中小企业将受到严重打击,企业利润率也将下降。市场对关税规模的严重性存在一定程度的怀疑,这反映在股市估值和盈利预期上。沃尔玛的盈利预警表明,企业可能会选择吸收关税成本而不是将其转嫁给消费者,这将对通货膨胀和企业利润率产生影响。虽然马斯克多次被宣告失败,但特斯拉的估值仍然很高,因为它向投资者描绘了美好的未来图景。特斯拉目前的汽车业务利润率正在下降,其未来的机器人和自动驾驶技术承诺仍需验证。高利率和对未来盈利预期的高度依赖是影响特斯拉等公司估值的关键因素。政府对医疗保险优势计划的巨额补贴表明,政府对医疗欺诈问题不够重视。医疗保险优势计划存在严重的代码升级问题,导致政府支付过高的医疗费用。政府对医疗欺诈的处理不力,导致许多公司得以逃脱惩罚。当前的市场环境与以往不同,因为美国作为全球霸权的优势地位正在被削弱。政府部门对医疗保险优势计划中的欺诈行为缺乏有效的监管和问责机制。

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The recent market volatility has revealed unsustainable practices, creating opportunities for short-sellers. After a long period of underperformance, short-selling has become more profitable, allowing investors to better manage risk in their long portfolios.
  • Market downturn reveals unsustainable practices.
  • Short-selling becomes profitable after a long period of underperformance.
  • Short positions finance long portfolios, enabling outsized returns during market shifts.

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In a big bull market, people will overlook a lot. They'll suspend their disbelief. They'll buy into fantastical, unrealistic stories about the future. But when the momentum turns sharply the other way, all of this reverses. Then, as the cliché goes, you see who's been "swimming naked." So what have we learned from the recent market volatility? On this episode, we speak with legendary short-seller Jim Chanos, now the founder of Chanos & Co. We talk about cloud stocks and datacenters, AI, private equity, the Trump tariffs, and the strong evidence that Elon Musk isn't serious about tackling spending.

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