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Vladislav Zubok on What the Cold War Actually Was

2025/6/9
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Joe Weisenthal
通过播客和新闻工作，提供深入的经济分析和市场趋势解读。
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Tracy Alloway
知名金融播客主播和分析师，专注于市场趋势和经济分析。
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Vladislav Zubok
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Joe Weisenthal: 我认为理解冷战的本质对于判断当前美中关系是否为“新冷战”至关重要。我过去对冷战的理解比较简单，现在希望通过阅读更多历史书籍来加深理解。 Tracy Alloway: 我认为从非美国的视角看待冷战非常重要，因为不同的国家和文化对历史事件有不同的解读。我好奇冷战在其他国家是如何被定义的。 Vladislav Zubok: 我认为冷战本质上是资本主义和社会主义两种现代化道路之间的竞争。虽然地缘政治因素和意识形态冲突都存在，但最根本的是哪种制度能够更好地引领世界发展。我强调，理解冷战需要关注其不同阶段，因为每个阶段的特点和问题都有所不同。

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The hosts introduce the topic of the Cold War and its relevance to current US-China tensions. They discuss their own prior understanding of the Cold War and their curiosity about different perspectives.
  • The Cold War is often characterized as an ideological battle between capitalism and communism, but also as a geo-strategic battle centered on Europe.
  • The hosts' initial understanding of the Cold War was shaped by American textbooks and perspectives, leading to a desire for a broader international perspective.

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These days, it's common to talk about the emergence of a New Cold War that exists between the US and China. It's debatable whether or not this is a useful framing. But in order to answer the question, it requires that you have some conception of what the original Cold War actually was. Vladislav Zubok, a professor at the London School of Economics, has a new book out on exactly this question. In The World of the Cold War: 1945-1991, Zubok attempts to explain how we should understand this period, which he sees as both an ideological battle, as well as a geo-strategic one — and also a battle that the two main actors (the US and the USSR) saw very differently at the time. In addition to understanding the contours of that tension, we discuss its applicability today, as the new administration attempts to re-arrange our relationship with China and the Middle East, as well as other rivals, allies, and partners.Only Bloomberg.com subscribers can get the Odd Lots newsletter in their inbox — now delivered every weekday — plus unlimited access to the site and app. Subscribe at bloomberg.com/subscriptions/oddlots)

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