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Where peace talks stand in Ukraine, 3 years into war
2025/2/24
On Point | Podcast
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Deborah Becker
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Donald Trump
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Ianella Cholon
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Ilya Ponemarenko
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Julia Timoshenko
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Nicholas Locker
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Volodymyr Zelenskyy
Deborah Becker: 本节目讨论俄乌战争三周年以及当前和平谈判的现状。
Julia Timoshenko: 我描述了我在基辅战区的生活，以及对战争的适应。我强调了乌克兰人民对和平的渴望，以及在任何和平谈判中都必须包含乌克兰的参与。
Ilya Ponemarenko: 我分享了我在布恰的经历，它既是俄罗斯暴行的象征，也是乌克兰复苏的象征。我还讨论了乌克兰民众对沙特阿拉伯谈判的反应，以及对泽连斯基总统在谈判中的坚强立场的支持。
Donald Trump: 我批评泽连斯基总统在结束战争方面做得不好，并主张与俄罗斯进行对话以结束战争。
Volodymyr Zelenskyy: 我回应了特朗普总统的批评，并强调了乌克兰在和平谈判中的重要性。
Nicholas Locker: 我认为泽连斯基总统采取了正确的策略，坚持乌克兰在谈判中拥有发言权，并拒绝任何未经乌克兰同意达成的和平协议。我还分析了美国与俄罗斯在和平意愿上的差异，以及俄罗斯目前占据的优势地位。
Ianella Cholon: 我强调了欧盟对乌克兰的支持，以及在和平谈判中尊重乌克兰主权和领土完整的重要性。我还讨论了特朗普政府的政策对跨大西洋关系和北约联盟的负面影响。
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Julia Timoshenko: 'We got the air raid right now because I'm like sitting at the mall...I sometimes try to remember and reminisce life before February 22 for me...I feel like Ukraine is a place where I want to be...'
Ilya Ponemarenko: 'Ulaanbaatar is one of the most comfortable and coziest suburbs of Kyiv...It took very little time for Bucha to recover from this touch of evil...Bucha is the international symbol of bloodbath and carnage for nothing and pure evil.'
Donald Trump: 'Biden never tried. Europe has failed to bring peace...I love Ukraine, but Zelensky has done a terrible job...'
Volodymyr Zelenskyy: 'It is unfortunate that President Trump...unfortunately lives in this disinformation space.'
Nicholas Locker: 'When we're looking at the current situation regarding negotiations, I think that President Zelensky is...Taking the right approach...for any peace to be both just and sustainable, Ukraine absolutely needs to have a seat at the table.'
Ianella Cholon: 'From what we are seeing these days, of course, the Europeans are trying to cooperate more together...If we want a just and lasting peace, that means we have to involve the Europeans and Ukrainians in these negotiations.'
Deep Dive
This chapter explores the daily realities of life in Kyiv, Ukraine, three years into the war. It features the experiences of Julia Timoshenko, a young Ukrainian who describes adapting to living under constant air raid warnings and the emotional toll of war on her and her community.
- Three years of living in a war zone in Kyiv.
- Adapting to daily life with air raid sirens and kamikaze drones.
- Emotional exhaustion and anxiety among citizens.
- The importance of community support in times of hardship.
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