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Farewell TikTok? Plus, the Role of Memory and Forgetting with the L.A. Wildfires

2025/1/17
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David Cole: 我认为TikTok案的核心是：TikTok和1.7亿美国用户的言论自由权与国会和行政部门的国家安全担忧之间的冲突。美国政府没有证据证明TikTok向中国政府提供用户数据或传播宣传，但政府认为风险过大，这与历史上许多案件类似，都是言论自由权与国家安全担忧之间的冲突。政府以外国关联为由干预TikTok，此举可能为未来对其他媒体的干预设立危险先例。如果政府的行为是为了改变人们看到的內容，则必须接受严格审查。为了保护数据隐私，关闭TikTok并非最佳方案，立法禁止TikTok与中国共享信息更为合理。存在替代平台不能成为政府关闭言论渠道的理由。如果最高法院允许禁止TikTok，将为政府干预言论自由设立危险先例。美国人有权接触外国的观点，即使这些观点来自没有言论自由权的外国政府。最高法院在麦卡锡时代过于顺从政府的国家安全主张，后来才发展出更保护言论自由的原则。 Ryan Broderick: TikTok并非简单的社交平台，其核心功能是社交购物，这与美国立法者的认知存在偏差。TikTok的算法不同于Instagram或YouTube，因为它旨在促进产品销售。美国用户对TikTok的价值被高估了，TikTok的全球电商网络布局才是其核心战略。社交网络会产生激进化效应，但其影响机制比美国立法者想象的复杂得多。目前没有证据表明中国操纵TikTok算法以影响美国青少年的政治观点。TikTok的用户界面鼓励参与式讨论，这与其他平台不同。美国年轻人迁移到小红书（Red Note）部分原因是为了表达对TikTok禁令的不满。美国试图阻止中国科技影响力短期内可能奏效，但长期来看效果存疑。中国开发者开发出创新的互联网应用方式，并受到用户的欢迎，这反映出美国科技行业的不安全感。

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The Supreme Court upheld a ban on TikTok, raising concerns about free speech and the potential impact on other media companies. The discussion involves the balance between free speech rights and national security concerns, examining the precedent this sets for future government interventions in media.
  • Supreme Court upheld TikTok ban.
  • Concerns raised about free speech implications.
  • TikTok's status as a major media outlet.
  • Potential for government control over media outlets with foreign connections.

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The Supreme Court has upheld a ban on TikTok. On this week’s On the Media, hear how the ruling could affect other media companies, and where TikTokers are going next. Plus, California’s latest wildfires are devastating, but they’re not unprecedented.

[01:00]  Host Micah Loewinger sits down with David Cole), professor of law and public policy at Georgetown University, and former National Legal Director of the American Civil Liberties Union, to discuss what the Supreme Court TikTok ban could mean for all kinds of media companies.

[16:39] Host Micah Loewinger speaks with Ryan Broderick), tech journalist, host of the podcast Panic World, and author of the newsletter “Garbage Day,” on the great TikTok migration to RedNote, and what the platform’s potential ban means for the future of the Internet.

[35:08] Host Brooke Gladstone speaks with Rebecca Solnit), author of *A Paradise Built in Hell: The Extraordinary Communities That Arise in Disaster, *on what she, a California native, has found shocking but not surprising about the Los Angeles fires. 

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