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Why Trump is Welcoming White South Africans as Refugees. Plus, Ep 2 of The Divided Dial.

2025/5/16
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Michael Loewinger: 我认为目前的情况是,一些南非白人团体原本希望通过国际宣传来获得关注和制裁,但他们从未真正寻求成为难民。现在,他们发现自己陷入了一种意想不到的境地,就像一只追逐汽车却最终抓住了自己并不想要的汽车的狗。这种意外的结果给他们带来了意想不到的挑战。 Christopher Landau: 我认为美国政府的立场是明确的,我们坚决反对在南非发生的任何基于种族的迫害行为。因此,我们欢迎这些阿非利卡人来到美国,为他们提供安全的避风港。 Donald Trump: 我坚信南非正在发生一场针对白人农民的种族灭绝,他们遭受着残忍的杀害,他们的土地也被无情地没收。无论受害者是白人还是黑人,我都同样关心。白人农民正在遭受残酷的杀害,他们的土地正在被没收。 Carolyn Holmes: 我认为,将白人农场主描绘成特别受害者的观点与实际的警察统计数据并不相符。事实上,有证据表明,居住在商业农场的居民,无论其种族如何,实际上比居住在南非城市和郊区的居民经历暴力犯罪的可能性要小。一些激进组织通过挑选少数具有同情心的受害者故事,并持续关注这些故事,从而突出了白人受害的观念。重要的是要认识到,这并不是传统意义上的错误信息,不能简单地通过指出事实上的不正确来纠正。 Tucker Carlson: 我认为媒体忽略了一个引人入胜且重要的故事,即一群受困的农民,主要是讲阿非利卡语的人,正遭受一波野蛮和可怕的谋杀。帮助我们的最好方法是在公共平台上谈论这件事,并继续向南非政府施加压力,说出真相。

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A PR campaign by Afrikaner groups highlighting violence against white farmers in South Africa gained traction with the Trump administration, leading to the unexpected granting of refugee status to Afrikaners and their arrival in the US. This outcome was met with ambivalence by the activist groups, who had sought different forms of support.
  • White South Africans were granted refugee status by the Trump administration.
  • Afrikaner activists did not initially seek refugee status, but rather international attention and sanctions.
  • The refugee status was met with ambivalence by the activist groups involved.

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On Monday, dozens of Afrikaners arrived in the US as refugees. On this week’s On the Media, how a fringe group of white South Africans have been lobbying for Donald Trump’s attention for almost a decade — but refugee status was never on their wish list. Plus, the second episode of The Divided Dial, all about how rightwing extremists took over shortwave radio.

[01:00] Host Micah Loewinger talks with Carolyn Holmes), a professor of political science at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville, about the arrival of white South African refugees in the US, why Afrikaner white rights groups are objecting to the policy, and the long-standing exchange of ideas between white nationalist elites in the US and South Africa.

[16:42] Episode 2 of The Divided Dial), Season 2: You Must Form Your Militia Movements. Many governments eased off the shortwaves after the Cold War, and homegrown US-based rightwing extremists edged out shortwave peaceniks to fill the void. Reporter Katie Thornton) explores how in the 1990s, US shortwave radio stations became a key organizing and recruiting ground for white supremacists and the burgeoning anti-government militia movement. On this instantaneous, international medium, they honed a strategy and a rhetoric that they would take to the early internet and beyond.

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