Jerry O’Connell, Liam Coen’s Introduction To The World, Hot Seat/Cool Throne And Guys On Getting Old
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He's on the hot seat. We're going to find out if he can be our fantasy GM or manager. No, coach. He's our coach. He's at the top of the food chain for right now. For right now. Great time with Jerry in studio. We're going to talk a little introductory press conference around the NFL. Maybe a little early thoughts on the Super Bowl, where Max's head is at. We have hot seat, cool throne. And then we're going to do guys on chicks, questions about getting old because...

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We've got a Super Bowl to look forward to. How's everyone feeling? Sean McDermott still has his job. I don't think he should be fired now that the dust has been settled. No, I don't think he should be fired. But that has been the discourse. He's a very, very good coach, but you have to also look at what he's done in the playoffs and how much those losses just stay with the man. Yeah. Andy Reid, you know what happened to him? He was fired by the Philadelphia Eagles. He was fired. He fired him. Then he went to Kansas City.

And now he's playing against the Eagles in the Super Bowl. Yeah. How are you feeling, PFT? I know obviously Sunday sucked for you. I think Monday probably sucked as well. When I woke up on Monday, I felt better just from the second I opened my eyes. And I posted a meme about it, and I think it captures the moment perfectly. It's the two guys on the bus meme. Yep. One is really pissed off, doom and gloom. The other guy's super happy. The guy that's pissed off

losing a close game. The guy that's super happy is getting your ass kicked. Yeah. So getting your ass kicked is better in those situations, I think, than being like, oh, you know, we were one play away. Oh, yeah. I said it to you right after the game. I was like, the only... You know, I felt bad for you. Like, it sucked to watch that. And I was like, the only spin zone is...

If it were a Bills situation or, you know, like a weird call or penalty or like a dropped ball, a Mark Andrews, those are the ones that will stick in your head for weeks and weeks and weeks.

This one, it's like, yeah, you got your ass kicked. Yeah, I'm still not happy about the result of the game. And I'm also not doing the thing where I'm just constantly pointing at, we'll be back. Look at this team. That's the worst team Jaden's ever going to have. You never know. Weird things happen in the NFL all the time. So I've also realized, and this is my fault for not realizing before the game, that was the post-Lions week.

And every team gets their ass kicked post-Lions. So the Eagles didn't really even beat us. We just had delayed onset getting beaten by the Lions. So the Lions technically lost in the divisional round and the conference championship. Yeah, exactly. I mean, it happened with the Vikings too. The Vikings beat the Lions last game of the season, lose to the Rams. No, the Lions beat the Vikings. The Lions beat the Vikings, but they played, and then they end up losing afterwards. So congratulations to the Lions for beating us. Yeah.

Yeah, they actually won that game. Yeah, but it's not a good feeling. Next week would be so much more fun if my team was in it. Yeah, I would say so. I'm doing okay. Max? Yeah, I'm on the Kansas City team.

But I'm back on being mad at the media because now everyone's just saying, oh, the Eagles now get credit for beating a rookie quarterback. Oh, who said that? Now it's back. Yeah, it sounds like there's another addition to the list. Oh, yeah, big-time list. Oh, Colin Coward said that the Eagles might not get in the red zone because the Chiefs' defense is so good. That's mega list. By the way, I've done some – we'll do a full preview next week.

But our good friend Roan, I told him because we were talking about how he was saying the Chiefs defense is really – the Chiefs defense is a little overrated. I'm going to say it right now. I'm going to dig into some numbers for you, but I'm going to say it. That's what I'm talking about. Their rush defense has not been incredible in the back half. Now the problem is for the Chiefs, for you and the Chiefs, is their offense has gotten a lot better.

Like, I don't think that I think their defense is, is a little worse than people. I think people think their defense is elite. I think their defense is above average. And I think people think that their offense is average. And I think that's also above average. So yeah,

It's still Patrick Mahomes, if that makes sense. That's my early analysis of the game that I haven't fully dug into, but I think their defense is a little bit worse, but their offense is a little bit better. Max, I think I might be putting you on my list for putting Colin Cowherd on your list because that's what he wanted to have happen. He said that so guys like you would be like, Colin Cowherd, let's talk about him. Yeah, you fell for it. Yeah, you fell for it. I don't care. I don't care. Megalist. I did get tagged in a stat.

That you got upset about before I even said it. You were like, I'm done with your fucking stats. Your last big stat was that no quarterback is that long. That's not a stat. That was a curse. It was a potential curse. It was a 25-year curse. That's not a stat, dude. That's a curse. There's a big difference. Max, for the record, you do not believe in 25-plus-year curses.

I don't know where this, I'm not answering that question because it looks like you're trying to. Smart man. Yep. All right. Ryan Hannibal did tweet, and I got tagged in this, Max. It's not my fault that the AWL has tagged me in this. They said, something to note ahead of the Super Bowl, Eagles defensive coordinator Vic Fangio has faced Patrick Mahomes eight times, six with Denver, twice with Miami. His teams are 0-8, and Mahomes has thrown 10 TDs and two interceptions in those games.

That was prime Mahomes. Well, also those Denver and Miami teams didn't have the same personnel that the Eagles do. Denver was pretty good. I mean, they weren't. The Eagles defense is very good. But yeah, is that a stat worth jumping down my throat? I'm not worried about trends.

That's a trend. I got a trend, Big Cat. No team that's won exactly 15 games in the regular season has won the Super Bowl since 1985. Whoa. But Max doesn't care about trends. But it's an extra game. He doesn't care about trends. I also have a trend every single time that the Eagles have played the Chiefs in the Super Bowl on this podcast, the Eagles have lost. Not a trend. Incorrect.

Incorrect. We beat them in the regular season last year. I said in the Super Bowl. You said in the Super Bowl. Correct. I missed that. I love it. I love that you're on edge. That was a little boy ass play game when the Eagles beat the Super Bowl. Oh, yeah. Sirianni doing the tunnel thing and then it all fell apart. No, it was Travis Kelsey, little boy ass play. Oh.

Yeah. No, but wasn't that the game when Sirianni was in the tunnel after? Oh, yeah, yeah. Being like, how do you like us now? And then they lost every game after. Yep. Nick Sirianni, good coach. Have we gotten any media requests for Max during the week of the Super Bowl? Zero media requests. Oh, come on, people. Come on, people. I'll also say that Max will talk about Villanova basketball for anyone on Radio Row as well.

You get two guests for the price of one. Yeah. That was not a weight joke. That was just two teams. Yeah. Um, big cat. I have a question for you because there's a take that is, uh, it's riling people up online. Okay. Do you think that Josh Allen should have thrown to, uh, the wide open guy that he had in the flat when he had two defenders from the Kansas city chiefs in his face? Are you talking about Khalil Shakir? Yeah. Yeah. He was running the little merry-go-round play in the backfield. Yeah. Um, I don't know. I didn't play in the NFL. Uh,

It felt like Josh Allen had a guy in his face almost instantly and probably made it hard to do. But I actually think Ben Solick is good at his job, and I like his film analysis. He...

Holy shit, was that an overreaction for people who missed it. He basically broke down the play and was like, Josh Allen had Khalil Shakir open on the backside. But if you watch the play, it's like he had a chief in his face. Not if you simply flip your hips. Yeah, you got to flip your hips to make the throw. But so he did make the throw. Yeah, he did make a good. He made an incredible throw. He made the play happen. Yeah, that's the real story is Dalton Kincaid. I feel like he's getting left off a little bit too easy just because he's

it's easier to be like Josh Allen can't beat Patrick Mahomes. Oh, he should have flipped his hips to the left. I personally would have thrown it even deeper for a touchdown. Yeah. The touchdown was open on that play. But so Ben Solick did a film breakdown and then –

It was almost like it was essentially the anchorman scene when everyone shows up to the fight and it was just everyone who's ever played in the NFL linemen quarterbacks. And then Ryan Leaf showed up and everyone was like, ah, dude, maybe this isn't cool anymore. He wrote this.

Quote treating Ben Solick. He said, this right here is why in full transparency you have to post your address with these. Someone needs to put a boot in his ass. You work at ESPN. Call Alex. Call Dan. Call Timmy H. Just call someone before you do this and lose whatever credibility you had. I'm serious, though. Someone go rough this kid up. See if he throws the orbit. I love it.

I was like, it was, it was basically cause it was everyone. It was like, you know, like, and all these people I, I respect. And I think Ben probably did minimize how easy of a, or how difficult of a throw that was. Um, but it's, it's also like, you're having a discussion about a game. Like that's, that's the whole point of Twitter. You talk about the game, you break down the game, but it was like Ryan Fitzpatrick, uh,

Fitzy was nice to him. Yeah, Fitzy was nice to him. He's like, I love your passion, which is actually the meanest thing you can say. I mean, it was a horrible take. He said it like the proper Harvard man that he was. That's Fitzy's version of saying somebody needs to show up at your house and kick your ass. The correct take was that the Bills didn't slide their protection correctly because Spaggs was doing one blitz all game, and then he flipped it on them. Yeah, I think there were two things working against Ben Solak. And yeah, he is good at what he does.

But number one, he used the dots. His initial take used the overhead. He can't use the dots. They use the overhead dots. And the overhead, I don't know who likes watching the dots.

It's all the film nerd people. You don't like football if you like watching the dots. Yeah. Or maybe you can, but I can't appreciate looking at the dots and understanding how awesome football is. Nobody's hitting each other. There's nothing cool that happens. You get a little animated football that glides across the field. What's your favorite album of all time, Big Cat? Probably... Probably...

Third Eye Blind, Self-Titled. Okay, Third Eye Blind. If you hadn't heard it before. I was under pressure. I was under pressure. I was going to maybe go Sublime Sublime. I was also maybe going to go The Band, Self-Titled. Fuck. Okay, let's say Prince, Purple Rain. Okay. You've never heard it, right? Yeah. Sublime Sublime. Okay, Sublime Sublime. You've never heard The Ballad of Johnny Butt. You've never heard Wrong Way. You've never heard Caress Me Down. No.

I come up to you and I'm like, Big Cat, I think you're going to love this album. And then I hand you the sheet music to the album for you to read. Yeah. That's what looking at the dots is for football. You can't appreciate how sick it actually is. So use the dots. That's strike one. And then strike two...

his profile pic that he had was a bad signal for football jocks to point at him and say, this is everything that's wrong with the film dorks that are sitting at home. They're in their big comfy chairs and they've never had a guy in their face before. So I think every film nerd should have to on video, let a guy just,

Get right in their face. Yeah. Like, have a guy come in their face. Yep. Like, not... You know, like, physically. Yeah, physically. Like, impose their will on him. I agree. In his face. And then show that you can break down film while a guy is in your face. Also, just maybe grow a mustache. That helps, too. That always helps. The funny thing is, Kurt Warner, ever heard of him? Super Bowl MVP, MVP of the league. He actually kind of agreed with Ben. Not that the...

That Shakir was there, but more that it was the discussion should not be like, oh, where should he have thrown it? It should have been how did the Bills not get the right protection, have a plan for that type of blitz. And again, Hank's right. Josh Allen made the throw. Dalton Kincaid. I mean, it wasn't like a perfect throw. He had to come back for it, but that was in his hands. What do you always say, Hank?

If you can touch it, you can catch it. If you can touch it, you can catch it. I do feel bad for Bills fans because that's how we started the show. You were able to bounce back, relatively speaking, because of the ass-kicking. Bills fans are going to spend...

the next month going over this and going over that play and going over the first down and everything. Yeah. I was lucky enough to get to go home on Sunday and not have to force myself to spend the next 48 hours drawing Photoshopped lines onto the screen to show where the ball is, where the first down line is, and then replying to every popular tweet using my Photoshopped lines and demonstrating that the NFL was wrong. Yeah. But you have to do that if you're a Bills fan. And again, it comes down to...

The Chiefs are so well coached, and they make big plays. Because I was also watching. So it was that Spags blitz, which was an incredible blitz, perfectly timed. And this is what the Chiefs do. They just make big plays. The other one, which I didn't notice, obviously, in real time, but the Mahomes designed run for the touchdown to go up seven.

It was very cool because they basically ran – it looked exactly like a run going left, and all the Bills crashed left. I think they pulled a guard, and then Mahomes just went right. And it's like – I think it was Rousseau said they had not run that play all year. The Chiefs had not run that play all year. I think Mahomes had one designed run all year, and he's like, we watched all the film. That never showed up.

That's coaching. That's Andy Reid being like, we're in a game against a team that we know it's going to come down to one possession. We got to throw a few things at them that they've never seen before. And that's what they did. And that's why the Chiefs are in the Super Bowl and Mahomes is going for a three-peat. Spin zone for Bills fans. The last time I remember this much breakdown of one fourth down slash first down slash referees getting involved and the spot might be incorrect is

It was the Michigan-Ohio State game right before Michigan went on its win streak against Ohio State. Yeah. Well, there's a little bit of bottoming out, but then, yeah. But then, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But then they were back. Yeah, yeah. Then they were back big time. We also might get a microchip now. Yeah, so the microchip,

I love the chain gang. I love the sticks. I love the old guys that they wheel out there on Sundays that get run into on the sidelines sometimes. That's always fun too. But I like the idea. I love it if there's a close play. They stop the clock real quick. The chain gang comes out onto the field. There's that moment of anticipation. Then you either get the first down or you don't get the first down. It's like another play that's built in that you get to cheer for or be pissed off about.

I like the chain gang, but I can see why the microchip crowd can be like, we can measure this better. But again, it comes down to, and whatever, throw the refs out of that. It came down to, I saw the stat, that the Chiefs, I think, that was the most stuffed runs on a QB keeper, on a QB sneak, like in a lot of years, three times they stuffed it.

Why were you running that three times, especially in a play that by design you don't know where the ball is? The ref can't tell where the ball is. It's a 50-50 call for the ref, and you're leaving that up to it on a play that you aren't able to get those yards. That's where I was. I said it on Sunday night. Like, go ahead and blame the refs if you want to. That was play calling and coaching and coming up with a strategy to beat the Chiefs that just didn't feel smart. I think if you can't see the ball, then you get the microchip involved. Yeah.

I just like talking about microchips. And I also like whenever someone's like, we're able to do this, but not this. We can get on the moon, but we can't do a microchip. Those are my favorite arguments. So the microchip would exist in the middle of the ball, right?

So how would you know? I thought, and this is maybe my brain is just so scientifically advanced that we haven't caught up to it. I thought they would wrap it in a microchip. The ball would be made out of microchip? Kind of. And shiny on the outside? Yeah, that would be one of those like...

Like the tin foil and then they heat it up and it envelopes it? If you tell Andy Reid that there's a microchip inside the pigskin, he's going to try to eat it. Yeah. So be on the lookout for that. But there should be a way. If you can't see the ball, maybe go to the microchip. But I love the chain gang. I do too. It's one of the things about football that's just...

It's tradition, and you shouldn't try to... Don't make the NFL into the NBA. Yeah. Don't try to evolve the game into something that it's not, that we all hate. And the Chiefs made a couple more plays than the Bills made. Yeah. That's what it came down to. Going back to the beginning of the show, if this exact scenario had happened to Washington and they were in Buffalo's situation, would you be saying the same thing about the microchip? Oh, no way. That's not how fans work, eh? I would be pulling a memes at the NFL front office right now. Yeah. I would be in New York and...

And ready for the microchip. If that happened to the Bears, I'd be writing letters to Congress. I would never turn 40 if that happened. Yeah, and I would be writing letters to Congress and self-funding microchip data. Yeah. I'd go broke trying to get microchip. But my only rule for getting the microchips in the balls would be we have to replay that game. Yeah, I would move to Taiwan and start my own semiconductor company. I mean, if that happened...

If I were a Bills fan, I'd probably just walk around with a picture of the spot and the ball that was beneficial to me.

And I would just be, it'd be like showing like you're a picture of your kids or your dog. She'd be like, you want to see this? Did you see what happened? Years later, I'd be like, did you guys see this? Remember that movie Celtic Pride? I would kidnap Roger Goodell and I would tattoo that, that image onto his body. So he had to look at it every single day. I'd clockwork orange him. Yeah. I'd open up his eyeballs and I'd make him watch the first down over and over and over. Severance, make him apologize into a screen. Yeah. A thousand times. To your future self, Roger. Yeah. Uh,

But, yeah, stop complaining, Bills fans. Well, no, you can't. No, I'm just kidding. I'm joking. Keep complaining. Definitely keep complaining. Keep complaining. Keep posting the screenshots. Don't give that up. I think it's more – I think Bills fans keep complaining. I think non – like if you don't have a dog in the fight, Bills or Chiefs,

Fucking move on and stop saying the NFL's rigged. Again, you pointed out the NFL's rigged. Just bet everything on the Chiefs. It's rigged. If it's rigged, if you're so convinced it's rigged, you should be betting the Chiefs on every single year. I love the people that discover for the first time that the NFL has argued in court that they're an entertainment company, not a sports company. And then that proved that it's 100% rigged. Which, if you're looking for, if you're trying to make a conspiracy out of it, the NFL gives you a lot of stuff to work with. They give you a ton to work with.

But I don't think that distinction has anything to do with whether or not one ref saw Josh Allen's shoulder and was like, no, that looks like it's two inches short. We need Taylor Swift in the Super Bowl again. There was a lot of takes flying, but I did appreciate one person saying,

I'm going to give you too bad, Big Cat. I kind of give you a pass because it's your job. But at the same time, it's crystal clear at this point that the sport is corrupt. It would be a big statement for all of Barstool sports to take a stand here and boycott. Boycott the Super Bowl. Boycott. I'll say this loud and clear. I'm always going to watch the Super Bowl.

It's the last football game of the year. And anyone who says they're not going to watch the Super Bowl, you're a fucking liar. You're just a liar. You're going to watch the Super Bowl. You might not talk about the Super Bowl. You might complain about the Super Bowl. You're going to fucking sit down on Super Bowl Sunday. They literally named a Sunday after it. And you're going to open your eyes and you're going to watch that fucking game. You know what? I think we should make a stand. Who was it that said that? Tram 2022. Tram 2022 is right.

As a company noted, noted Paul Watcher as a company tram. I think that we should all boycott the Pro Bowl games. Okay. We've done this, I think, four or five years in a row. I'm going to do it. I'm doing it this year for tram. Yeah, I'm not going to watch. Okay. I'll stand with you. Are they going to do the one where they throw for distance to see how far the quarterbacks can throw? I won't watch. I might watch that. But the rest of it, I'm out.

I won't watch at least some part of the Pro Bowl games. Okay. Yeah. That feels right. That feels right. We'll show them. Yeah. Okay. We should talk about some coach introductions. So Liam Cohn. Whoa, that guy's weird.

I kind of like him. I mean, he's – I like him in the fact that, like, I can't look away when he did the Duval and he did the double eyebrow raise. Yeah. I talked to Jerry O'Connell about that. We were hanging out in the gambling cave. He's like, so that Jaguars coach, he's – that was AI, right? Like, seriously. It looked like AI. He was like, now that we're off the air, can you tell – like, that was AI. Yeah. No, it's – no, that's him. That's Liam Cohn, and it's –

It's rare that you see one thing from an introductory press conference and you just know what it's going to be like after every single Jaguars loss. Yeah. Where that is going to be the only thing that you see on social media. Negative aura. That's going to be the one thing that sticks in my brain about Liam Cohen until I see him do something even weirder. Yeah. Shots, explosives out of his eyes. Like there's a lot of things that if you do the first, your first press conference, if you say it, or your first introduction to the world, Dave,

Dave Canales' book. Yeah. There's just a lot of things. And did you guys see the clip? Can you pull it up, Max, of him talking about honesty is the best policy? That was very funny. Yeah. Because I said on Sunday, I really don't have a problem with Liam Cohen and how he did it. I mean, he could have handled it better, but I think football is like everyone's got to look out for themselves. But it's just very, like, insanely funny.

unselfaware to have an entire 30 seconds talking about how honesty is the best policy after you lied to the entire Bucks organization. Here it is. That's really what this is going to come down to is honesty. I want to surround ourselves with people that are going to be able to tell you hard truths,

be able to show you your blind spots because that's really like I mentioned where growth occurs and when you can truly be yourself and be honest with looking in the mirror knowing that that process to get you there was clean and it was right and the results will speak for themselves. I kind of love the idea though of the Jaguars having just a swindler as a head coach. Yeah. Just a guy that's that's

actually a snake, a guy that's dirty, like the perfect Florida man. I want him to go to a pawn shop with Brian Thomas Jr. Try to get 90 bucks for him. I want him to get paid in scratch-off tickets. I want him to do a video with the viral Jags woman. Yeah. They need to do that. He also dropped an acronym. That's always a no-no in the NFL. I feel like that's just...

Maybe a college. College acronyms kind of work, but his acronym is FAST, and it stands for Fundamentally Sound Attacking Situational Masters Tough. Situational Masters is a good one. Oh, man. I mean, my acronym point, I mean, Matt Eberflus had an acronym, and it was the HITS principle, and the T in HITS standed for the ball. Yeah, yeah, I remember that. That was on the wall.

Situational masters. I want to know what that means. Why could it be situational football? Just situational awareness? Masters. Because they want to be masters of situations. Fundamentally sound. Yeah, like just be fundamental attacking situational football tough. That sounds better than situational masters and fundamentally sound. Tough ball, then it would be S-A-F-T-L.

Yeah. Can you pull up that? I want to see him explain the acronym. The Jaguars posted it. And listen, I will say this in defense of the Jaguars.

When Dan Campbell did his introductory press conference, people laughed at it. People said that was crazy. They said he was a meatball. He's an idiot. Like, they're not going to win any games. He turns out to be a – Max, is he a winning coach? A winning coach? I wasn't paying attention. Dan Campbell, winning coach? Yes. Okay. So he turns out to be a winning coach. So you can't fully base every – it's like one of those –

Every poor press conference doesn't make a bad coach, but every bad coach probably had a poor press conference.

In his introductory press conference, he said, like, I can't wait to represent the maroon and black of the Washington Redskins, which are not the colors of the team. And so from that point on, you just were like, I don't really trust this guy 100%. But with Dan Campbell, yes, he's kind of overcome what a lot of people thought in that first press conference. But the first thing that people bring up, usually with Dan Campbell, is like, yeah, you know, this is a team that'll eat your kneecaps. Yeah. They still talk about it. It became a positive. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But it was, at the time, it...

It was laughed at for sure. Okay, this is Liam Cohn's acronym. It takes complimentary football at all three phases to be great. Offense, defense, and special teams. How do we want to play the game? And that's fast, fundamentally sound, attacking, situational masters, and tough, both mentally and physically. You see players in the room right here, guys that I've had conversations with already.

It will always be about you. So he's not the worst speaker. I think it's just that his face was put on incorrectly. He sounds like he's trying to do a presidential campaign. No, he sounds like he's giving a TED Talk about coaching a football team. Yeah. If you play that back and think about a guy on stage in like a leather jacket with one of those microphones that attaches to his chin, and now listen to him, this is a TED Talk. It's also just crazy because...

All you had to say was we want our players to play fast. Yeah. You don't have to do an acronym for it. Fast is good. Fast is fast. Well, the faster you are, the faster you're out of position if you're not a situational master. That's true. Good point. Yeah, think about Ted Talks. It takes complementary football at all three phases to be great. Offense, defense, and special teams. How do we want to play the game?

And that's fast. Yeah. This guy's looking for funding. This is South by Southwest. They're going to be like, hey, we're going to do a presentation on football. Yeah. Okay. First, we're going to bring out... Elon's going to host this panel about football guys. Yeah. Well, I mean...

Listen, I'll say this. It works for the Jags just because it's kind of a hilarious just visual and everything. And he could end up being a head coach. But if you were a Bucs fan that was upset, feelings hurt, crying, being a baby, Stephen Che, you should watch this and be like, we're okay. Yeah, you feel good. You feel good. But I hope it works out for the Jaguars. Yeah, I do too. Max, I have a question for you about the birds.

Yep. Rumors on the street are that Kellen Moore might be the next coach of the Saints. How do you feel about that? Will the Saints get a coach? I don't know. He interviewed for that a while ago. It is alarming that they haven't.

hired somebody new yet. I was hoping that Mike McCarthy... What? Alarming. Yeah. Oh, did they do... I didn't even know they did a second interview with him. Yeah. They flew into Philly. Yeah, they went there. Kind of a thirsty move by the Saints. No, it's... I mean, we lose our coordinator. Jalen Hurst has had eight different coordinators since he's been in the league, and I feel like he's only been in the league for like five years. So, that would suck, but...

You know, you got to worry about winning right now. That's the only thing that matters. Are you worried that he's going to be doing interviews instead of getting prepped for the... He just did his interview. He just did his second interview. No more interviews. He could have been using that time for the Chiefs. Do you think that maybe Sirianni is looking at Kellen Moore doing all these interviews and he's like, you know what? Maybe I should take a more hands-on approach. Maybe I could call a few plays for the Super Bowl. No. But anti-stat for you, Vangio guy. Vangio. Vangio. Vangio.

Oh, that's a new—if we get a new van. Yeah, it sounds like a— Vic Fangio is actually a great van name. Last year, Dolphins faced Mahomes. They lost that game, but the Chiefs only scored 14 points, and Mahomes threw for 180 yards in that game. Okay. Anti-stat. Most recent time he played. I never said anything about—

The stat? No, you just got anti-stat. No, but the stat I said is still correct. That was a clean anti-stat. I know, but, you know, context. I'm adding more context to your stat. Context stat. Okay. I was looking up. During that whole Bills talk, I was looking up anti-stats. So what were the other games? So if he didn't throw a touchdown, so that means in – so if we just went to seven games, he's 0-7, 10 touchdowns, two interceptions. Yeah.

No, there was a couple others, but that was the most recent one, so that's why I used that one. You just got Vangio'd. I got Vangio'd. What were we talking about before this? You guys get turned on by just looking at Vangio? It's great when you give Max anything that he takes offense to because you know that you can go have a cup of coffee, read the newspaper, take a walk around the block, and then when you come back, he'll be ready to come back at you. Yeah.

There was a clip. It'll be pacing around the room while you're gone. You're like, Max, here's a stat. Like, all right, hold that thought. I'll be back in 30 minutes. And when you come back, he's like, all right, I found it. There was another clip that was going up.

that was like going around Eagles Twitter was like Chris Canty he like got caught in a lie about talking about Jalen Hurts and his producer like stepped stepped in in the middle of it and corrected him and like awful announcing was like wow one of the craziest things I've ever seen on ESPN someone's producer coming in and correcting those damn imagine like that producer was definitely a birds fan by the way I think he was just like

I think he was like, I had Jalen Hurts top 10 before the year. And his producer was like, yeah, but you also said he was not top 10 during the year. I was like, this is my guy. Yeah. That's a birds fan. But the fact that all phone announcing was like, I've never seen anything like this. A producer. A producer. No way. Max, is Brandon Graham going to play in the Super Bowl? He's active. Wow. And what about Cam Juergens and Landon Dickerson? Um,

Schefter said that they have a real good chance of playing. Oh, good. Okay. Do you like that you're wearing green? Not you, dude. He's already rattled. You're already in Super Bowl mode where you're fighting stats. For the podcast listener, I said, do you like that you're wearing green? And Max looked down at his own shirt. I meant the uniforms in the Super Bowl, dude. Yeah, memes brought that up.

It's okay. Okay. Yeah, that's not good. All right, put that on a quote card. It's okay. Max's thoughts on the Eagles wearing green. It's okay. Yeah, memes keep saying it's 21 Jump Street, 22 Jump Street, meaning it's the same movie. Oh, no. And I just keep saying it's Rocky 1, Rocky 2. All right. But I don't know about... I don't think they wore the same stuff, the same trunks in both of those movies. But you guys are wearing the same trunks.

You're wearing white. We are wearing the same trunks. I don't think in Rocky 1, Rocky 2, they're wearing the same trunks. Okay. Yeah, they're wearing green that they wore, the same green they wore in the last Super Bowl, correct? I believe that was. Yeah, it's the same exact uniform matchup. Okay. Other coach hiring news, the Cowboys-

Brought in Brian Schottenheimer for his press conference. We also had Jerry Jones talk more about glory holes. He said there's a very low percentage of this that is smiles and glory holes. Very low percentage. Talking about just the business. He clarified himself when he repeated very low percentage of the glory holes. This is the second time that Jerry Jones has brought up glory holes. Maybe even third. I think he believes that a glory hole is a Super Bowl window.

To him, it's the same thing. Yeah. So when he's like, I want to get back to the glory hole days, I want me some glory hole. In his eyes, he's talking about being a championship team, but you don't make that mistake unless you're a man that has used a glory hole or two. Okay, let me see. He might also just be talking about an oil well. Yeah, he could be. So I'm looking at Wikipedia says a glory hole is a hole in a wall or partition often between public lavatory cubicles or sex video arcade booths and lounges for people to engage in sexual activity or to observe the person on the opposite side.

They're associated with gay male culture and anal or oral sex. Trying to find if there's any. No, glory holes go back all the way to 1707. Yeah. The trials of Thomas Vaughn and Thomas Davis. The two Toms going at it in the glory hole. Is that where Peeping Tom came from? Maybe. Yeah. So is it anything? Let's see. Popular culture, no. So yeah, is it an oil well as well? In his mind, it might be. That is a glory hole. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, holehunter.com. I'm not going to click on that one.

You just got to help you stick your deck in the hole. Yeah, miners would use the term glory hole for a spot in the ground that would yield an exponential amount of gold, oil, or whatever natural resource you look for. There we go. That's it. That's what he's talking about. He's talking about oil, guys. No one has told him that glory hole means anything else. He's talking about when a man gets really oiled up. Yeah. Also, Stephen Jones is getting kind of lambasted because he did a press conference. Well, he's basically morphing perfectly into Jerry Jones. He's going to be the perfect...

Jones air to have the Cowboys not have any success as well. But he was talking about the drought, the 30 year drought, Super Bowl and championship game drought. And he did air quotes. Yeah, it's just quotes. It's just like you guys. Dude, it is a drought. The media has been obsessed with this so-called alleged drought where we haven't allegedly won any Super Bowls. Right.

The drought. But it's one of those, it's a bad stat. It's a misleading stat. We've won several off-seasons.

The funniest part of this conference to me was when they introduced Brian Schottenheimer and the whole crowd clapped for him. It was very nice, very positive. And then the loudspeaker introduced Stephen Jones, the executive vice president, and nobody clapped at all. And then one guy started clapping and then three other guys kind of clapped and they pretend to laugh. Oh. You know, they're just busting my balls. They really love me up here. That's nice. Yeah. The Cowboys are a fun watch of just... I mean...

It's just so funny that they just didn't do a coach search. Well, they did. And when they talked to Pete Carroll, he called Pete Carroll to get his opinion on Brian Schottenheimer as their coach. And then they said, we also briefly talked about the possibility that he could coach. But it was just, it was a fact-finding call. Yeah.

So Pete Carroll was probably very confused about that. He's like, what is going on here? Am I applying or no? Yeah, probably not. Yeah. So, all right. Do we have anything else before we do Hot Seat Cool Throne? We're just not going to talk about the fact that Cardi B has pierced her butt crack? No. Okay. I mean, no, I didn't know that happened. Yes, I want to talk about it. Yeah, she announced that on X.com, the everything app yesterday. So, dot, dot, dot, I got my butt crack pierced.

Okay. Your thoughts. How? How? Well, then she said, do I lie and post a picture of it right here? So she got the top of it. Oh, I see how. That's actually, it's actually cute. I think that's cute. Wiping has got to be tough. Yeah. Yeah. She's got to front to back. Like, I didn't want to think about this with Cardi B, but here I am. It does. Okay.

All right, so she got her butt cracked. She should have just done, so I did a thing then. Yeah. Some personal news. There's a picture of her asshole. Mount Rushmore punishment? Butt crack piercing? I'm in. Stink about it. You say stink about it? Stink about it. We also just had a crazy college basketball Monday night with the Duke player puking, which is nuts. I've never seen that much puke on a basketball court. Yeah. And there's so many towels. And then Caleb Love, who is...

Not good at basketball, but then hit a 60-footer to be good at basketball. He was one for 11 from three and then hit a 60-footer to go to overtime and win the game. He's got those games. Yeah. What was the... It was like he puked and then a fan passed out. What's going on in Cameron? From seeing the puke? I don't know. It's hot. I guess it's hot in there. Yeah. It is hot in there. Okay. Okay.

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My hot seat is Heat culture. Yeah. Yeah. Jimmy Butler has been suspended indefinitely. It seems like they're going to trade him. How many times is that? Is this second, third suspension this year? Well, yeah, he's been trying to force his way out. Yeah. And they've just been playing hardball. That doesn't sound like J-Bud. But it sounds like the Heat, Pat Riley, you know, he had the bigger dick. He ended up on top. Sixers?

Shouldn't the guy with the bigger dick end up on bottom? He could be on top. On top? That's painful. Sixers? There is a rumor out there. Oh, no. I don't want him. I mean, he's old and he's proven himself time and time again to just be an absolute locker room cancer. Can't even win. Won one Eastern Conference Finals. Two. Two. I think the older is the bigger part of the equation.

I think the older piece is the bigger part of the equation. I think that Jimmy Butler and his prime, you would love to have him on your team if you're the Sixers. Can you imagine if you got a prime Jimmy Butler on that team? You'd never let him go. True.

Kevin Love also has been putting on a meme clinic throughout this entire process. I don't know what... He just switched the flip and was like, fuck it, I'm just going to... I love it. I'm just going to get my way out through memes. Yeah, I love it. Very, very funny. What about Phoenix? Is that still in the equation? Phoenix is the favorite right now to land him. But Bradley Beal has a no trade clause. And although... Yes, you have a no trade clause. You negotiated that for a reason. But come on, Bradley Beal. Is there any...

Like, if you're a GM or you're KD or you're Devin Booker, is there any party that's like, hey, instead of trying to get Bradley Beal or...

Jimmy Butler why don't we get like five really good players that can be around us and we can be the guys it's so weird to me whenever it's like what's this what's the problem with our team let's add another alpha that needs the ball I also love that Matt Eshbia last year was like I need to examine what went wrong with this team and figure it out as an owner so that we can move forward and now he's trying to do the same thing yeah just add another name that we all know it

They're basically doing the strategy that I do every year with fantasy football where it's like, yeah, Tony Gonzalez. I drafted Tony Gonzalez like seven years after he was good. That guy was awesome. I see his name. The Warriors are the other team. Warriors are a mess. I mean, a mess in that they are not going to probably make the playoffs. And I don't know what, like,

Steph is – let Steph be free. He probably doesn't even want to. Maybe he just wants to be a New Jersey guy. But I would like to see Steph in another big playoff series before he retires. It does feel like this is the end of that era. Oh, yeah, definitely. Can you imagine J-Bud on that team trying to get along with Draymond Green? No, no. And I don't even think – this is why –

This revisionist history. Just fucking... Just re-sign Clay and just gotten... You have to pick a lane. Maybe just get old together. Yeah. And just be like, all right, it was fun, but everyone got to stay together. I don't know. I mean, it's not working. Yeah, but they need... We're going to have to pay so much. No, I know. It's stupid. I just feel like if you know you're not going to win again, just go nostalgia. Yeah, it's not... But if they had any chance of winning again, not paying him back. Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. I agree. It was a dumb thought. I was just thinking of nostalgia. I know what you're saying, though. Yeah.

Which is, if the team's not competitive, you might as well just kind of keep everybody around and together. And then let them all, maybe one day they'll all retire at the same time. Or maybe they win one series again, like as 37-year-olds. And you're like, oh, that was cool. Yeah. It's a dumb thought. I understand it's a dumb thought. Really stupid. I mean, a dumb ownership group would certainly do something like that. But a smart ownership group would not. Correct.

Okay. Cool throne. I mean, this is where it's like, I think I say this every time, but then I'm saying it right now. I'm talking about it, bringing it up on the show. So I have, you know. I don't know where this is going. Do you have any idea where this is going? You fell into the trap again? Are you going to talk about the Guna side again? Nope. I never talked about that once. My cool throne is the Paul brothers. Ah, that's a good one. And yes, everything you kind of said, I don't really know.

Didn't really fully go through, but yes, I agree. I know what you were saying, and I agree. I don't think it was... I should have said it first. The Paul Brothers and the Cool Throne, I say this every time. Yes. I don't want to watch it. I know it's going to be rigged. It's going to be bullshit. People are going to walk away disappointed. Yet here I am talking about it again, and I probably will. I definitely will watch it. And I already have Max, the streaming app. Right. Yeah. So it's no additional money. Max raised his hand.

I do have multiple Max's. Make the I fell for it again award, although it's a guy wearing a Celtics hat and all the medals on his chest are for tuning in to Jake Paul fights. Yeah, they need to be like a knockout. The purse needs to be like $5, $5. If either one gets a knockout, $100 million. Yeah. Agreed. Who do you got? Jake. Look.

Logan's bigger. No, Jake's bigger. I thought Logan was taller. But Jake's beefier.

It's Jake. Is it boxing? Jake is the better boxer. Jake has been training boxing more consistently. Logan's done the wrestling, and he's done the faker fights. I mean, we're talking about this. Right. Is it a boxing match, or is it MMA? What is it? It's boxing. It also might all be a work, because the wording of it is kind of weird. Yeah. Logan is... Yeah, imagine they come out and just play Rock Paper Scissors shoot.

Logan is 6'2", 205, and Jake is 6'1", 227. All right, yeah, so Jake. And they have the same exact reach, so Jake. Also, this time of year, have your alert, your intent up high because anything that you see that stirs your interest, pretty good chance it's a Super Bowl commercial. Yep, very good point. This one has a date, but March 27th. Yeah, but still. All right. Okay, good job, Hank. Good job, Hank.

My hot seat is saying it with your chest. So I was watching Good Morning Football yesterday. Our good friend Peter Schrager on that show. Love Peter. Kyle Brandt, friend of the program. We like Kyle Brandt. He went on a little rant about the Chiefs and the Bills and the reaction to the game and how there were all these people out there saying everybody wanted the Bills to do it for America.

But let's not turn this into the Chiefs are some evil empire out there that is easy to root for and it's us against them and we don't want them to win no matter what. Kyle Brandt also on Sunday put out a hype video for the game. I saw that, yeah. Where he was literally Rocky as a Bills fan. Yeah. And Drago from Rocky IV. Were the Chiefs. Were the Chiefs. Yeah. The evil empire was literally the USSR. Yeah. Yeah.

Where was Drago from? Russia. He was from Russia. Yeah, USSR. And so he turned to... Now he's saying, like, don't act like you got to root against the Chiefs and they're literally an evil empire. Yeah. And you got to take down Big Red.

You just did that. Yeah. You just did that, Kyle. Yeah, he made the hype video. It was a very well done video. And I understand that Kyle, he's not technically a Bills fan. He's a hype guy for the Bills. Yeah. But still, you were actually doing that thing. Yeah, you were rooting for the Bills. And also, let people root against the Chiefs if they want to. I couldn't agree more. And I also, I don't care if you want to say...

I'm rooting for greatness. Like, if you're not a Chiefs fan, you're like, I'm rooting for greatness. I respect greatness. That's cool by me. If you're just like, I hate the Chiefs. I fucking hate them. It's rigged. I don't like them. I hate Patrick Mahomes. That's cool by me, too. Everyone should just be fine with however anyone wants to root. Yeah, if you want to root against the Chiefs because you think they are Satan...

Do it. Do it, please. And Chiefs fans, don't get offended either. Yeah. Like, you're winning. You shouldn't worry what other people think about your team when you're winning. I think Kyle tried to do the neat little pivot from Bill's super fan to, hey, Chiefs, I love you guys. Yeah. And that's a hard move to pull off.

Yeah, no, I mean, the Chiefs discourse, like, I just don't, if you hate the Chiefs, you just hate the Chiefs. Now, to be fair, maybe it was a bit because I was listening to it. I wasn't watching. Maybe they were playing in the background, the Rocky montage that he did. That would be a bit. Yep. In which case, hand up, I got it wrong. But if it's not, then now I feel like it's a different kind of bit. Yeah. Yeah.

I'll put my hand upright. I'm not cashing out of my future with the Eagles. I will be rooting against the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. But I also respect his greatness. But I'm telling you right now I'm rooting against the Chiefs.

I respect greatness, unlike Big Cat. Are you going to be rooting for the Chiefs? I think I have to. I mean, if I didn't have this future, I would be betting the Chiefs. I never wanted to root for the Eagles in that first Super Bowl. Big Cat had literally $200,000. Yeah, that was a big one. I didn't want to be sitting next to him rooting for him to lose $200,000. I appreciate that. So I bet $8,000 on him.

lost that, lost the doink bet to Hank. I was getting rods from all angles again that week. Just bet my hopes. I did it last year. Chiefs fans, obviously, are like, you always root against us. I bet on the Chiefs against the Texans. I bet on the Chiefs a very big bet against them in the Super Bowl last year. Remember we were sitting in the gambling cave? I think it was you, Dave, a couple other people were on the 49ers, and I was just sitting there like,

I got my homes. This is going to be easy. They're going to win. I might have to go back to the no doinks well. Get my revenge on that bet. What I would say if I didn't. 50 grand on no doinks at minus 500. What does that pay out? Probably a lot. Elliot's been so shaky.

Yeah, Elliott has been shaking. You were gassing Elliott up last week. I know because Coach Gruden told him I had to. PFT, I'll say this. If I didn't have this Eagles future, I'd probably just run back what I did last year because it was a very calming Super Bowl watch of being like, oh, but Mahomes. Yeah, he's got me. We're just sitting there watching. Yeah, but Mahomes is going to be fine. He'll figure it out. It's going to be in the fourth quarter and you'll be like, oh, yeah, one team has Mahomes. NFL rigged, I think I'm just going to go with the rigged.

Yeah, do it. Why not? It's a decent watch. I'm betting on Undertaker at WrestleMania. Yeah, I'm one and one in the last two Chiefs Super Bowls. But wait, Undertaker lost at WrestleMania in New Orleans. Yes, I was there. Oh. I was there. Oh, Max, that's good for you. How about that stat? That's good for you, Max. How about that stat? That's a great stat. That's a great stat. Okay, was he in your cool throne? My cool throne is some random burglar in Chicago.

This is also a fire fest, but I'm getting to it ahead of time. So I get home on Sunday night. I sent my laundry out this weekend because I ran out of clothes. I had jumpsuits I had to watch, et cetera, et cetera. Two giant, giant duffel bags of clothes. I get home. They had dropped it off on my porch.

Somebody stole all my clothes. Imagine being that burglar and opening it up and being like, what the fuck? Yeah. Not to brag, but I think I have a pretty... A Takis medium jumpsuit? Yeah. So...

Some burglar went up to my house. They probably were thinking, I'm going to get some good clothes. They stole these two huge fucking bags of clothes, got them in their car. They're driving away like I made out like a bandit. Let's open this up. There's probably going to be Gucci in there. There's going to be Dolce and Gabbana. They unzip it and they see six different Darius Rucker themed Washington Commander shirts.

It just, it's basically like the robbing a bank and having the ink blow up. Yeah. The ink blew up on all the jumpsuits that you had. Yeah. They actually did you a favor if it was a lot of jumpsuits, just clean out for jumpsuit January. There were a few jumpsuits in there, but it was, it was pretty much my entire wardrobe was stolen.

so now i don't really have any clothes i went out i bought i mean a bunch of socks uh we could just there's a loss and found at my kid's school yeah i could get you a new wardrobe tomorrow you got any propeller beanies i can put on elementary school but i now i'm looking at this and i'm thinking this could be this could be a good opportunity i'm turning 40 don't change could be time to start dressing like an adult i'll be so mad at you if you change you have a style i was thinking about maybe getting some of the tiktok girls to give me fashion makeover i think you should dress like high like

luxury like Joe Burrow like I turn into Joe Burrow now I can be down with that I don't want to scum to just absolute like yeah yeah but I don't want you to be like hearts I dress plain Hank dress dress plain you're you got to be the one max memes we all fucking wear the same hoodies

We need the guy who comes in and is like, hey, you guys see this jumpsuit? It's got croissants all over it. This to me feels like a great opportunity, though, to turn a page. It's like the universe telling me maybe it's time to stop wearing F-15 onesies. No.

But I would be supportive if you wanted to do a full assless suit. Yeah, like turn into super, super fashion. Was the one jumpsuit that you looked like a bunny rabbit? Was that in there? It was. Yeah, they stole my part. That was Chris's story. He had a Chris's story one. That's the one I was really hoping is just right on top. The first thing he sees. That's what's made me not be that pissed off about it. It sucks to lose all your clothes, obviously, but...

I can get over it. Yeah. They might return it. I have... Well, the first thing I did when I saw that the bag was gone, I drove around my neighborhood anticipating that they opened it up, saw what was in there, and just threw it out their window. Yeah. They were like, fuck this. That's so funny. So, yeah. Um...

Maybe I'll just do the... I think I might try the fashion makeover. That's so funny. Yeah. Oh, man. I would love to get... Listen, if you're an AWL and you're listening to this and you just robbed a bunch of jumpsuits and commander's gear, no penalty. No.

No crime will be committed. We would just like to interview you and get your honest reaction for when you opened up that bag. Maybe just return it so we know it's you with a long note. Yeah, just saying, when I opened this bag, I was disgusted. And it made me change my whole life and realize I need to get on the street and narrow. Yeah, maybe they learned a lesson. Crime doesn't pay.

That's so funny. All right, my hot seats, I got two. One is Jalen Milrow in hand sizes being back because Jalen Milrow has insanely small hands. What are they? Eight and three-fourths inches. To put it into perspective, it would be the smallest hands of any first-round quarterback ever taken. And in 2022, only one starting NFL QB had a hand size under nine inches, and it was Taysom Hill. Ooh.

Yeah, not good, especially because Jalen Monroe also does things like throw interceptions and not –

Throw to the open guys. Yeah. Not be able to throw. That's a very small hand. I would say that everybody on this podcast has a bigger hand than that. Yeah. Yeah. No, Hank's got tiny hands. Yeah. Little hands. Little guy. Tiny little nubs. I have big hands. Oh, actually, I have three hot seats. What? But do you see when Josh Allen fumbled that ball? He got Pedro Martinez fingers. Just picked it up. Yeah. Off the ground. Just palmed it. That was a pig snack. Yeah. Like a vacuum cleaner. It was a snarf. Hands mean something. Yeah.

Actually, no, I'll switch one to a cool tour. So my other hot seat is Archie Miller.

Archie Miller, head coach of the University of Rhode Island. Andre the Giant. Did you guys see Archie Miller's press conference? Now, I have to defend Archie Miller in the fact that I also get got a lot. But Archie Miller was doing a press conference after a game talking about what's the toughest league in the country. You want to play the press conference? Here you go. Here was his quote. Today, like, you know, the SEC is the best league in the country. But, you know, in all games, they're like 54 and 54. So, I don't know.

Somebody said that. I don't know if that's even accurate, but like, do you know how hard it is in every league, you know, to, to, to win, you know, it's just hard to win any game. So the problem with that is Archie Miller is quoting. I kind of find the guy's account. I apologize to him. I'll shout him out. Does he have it there?

Shout out that guy. He tweeted something that was basically joking. He was just saying, oh, the SEC is supposed to be the best league in the country. Well, why are they 54 and 54 since January 4th?

Obviously a joke because it's all conference play. And then Archie Miller went and took that stat and used it in a press conference. Yeah, because there's some bad teams that are at the bottom. And when you lose to a good team, the good team gets a win, but you get a loss. Just very funny. Be like, I saw somewhere it's 54 and 54. And so that must...

That's crazy. Yeah, the NFL was 500 this year. Yeah. As a league. The league is down. It's not getting done. For anyone who says the league is down, there it is. The league is down. Technically, how many games...

Is it always finish? Oh, no, no. I'm stupid. There's one win, one loss. I was like, oh, yeah, but the Super Bowl is a standalone game. I'm a moron. I just Archie Millard myself. But, yeah, shout out to the guy who got him got. One conference ends up with a slightly better record. Yeah. Yeah, that will always happen. Wasn't that the Stephen Che thing? He did a prediction for the whole –

No, but he did it wrong. He was off by like 10. Yeah, he was off by like 10. Because his predictions weren't game by game. They were just, I think that this team is going to win their division with 13 wins. This team's going to have 10. This team's going to have 10. This team's going to have 9. No, but he did the whole data thing. Yeah. But that's impossible. I went game by game, but it was impossible. Oh, I found the tweet. Jacob Pickle. Great tweet.

Jacob Pickle. Shout out Jacob Pickle. He said, wow, the best conference in the history of college basketball is 54-54 since January 4th. ESPN once again showing their SEC bias for some teams that can't even get above 500. That's great. And then Archie Miller went and used it. Good job, Jacob Pickle. Shout out Pickle07.

Also great username there. My cool throne, I have two. One is our guy, Tailgate Ted. So he actually hit us up, PFT, and was like, thank you guys for the shout out. And he has a, if you go online, he has, he's trying to raise money for lung cancer. Against lung cancer. Research. Yeah, research. So shout out, Tailgate Ted, if you can donate to the GoFundMe. He feels like he's...

He's handled it all very well. Like, he was obviously made fun of on the internet a little bit, lost a big game. He's turned it all into a positive. Seems like a genuinely good dude, and you always have the hard rock. The hard rock, dude. The hard rock. When all else fails, like Pablo Escobar going back to Medellin. Put your picture up on the wall of the hard rock.

Tailgate Ted will just get back to Hard Rock and he'll just be around his people. He does seem like a good guy. He also needs to realize that in this moment where he's become an internet flashpoint, there are going to be a lot of Eagles fans that will then respond to anything that you say. Yeah. He's like, I don't know why I'm still getting trolled for it. Yeah, no, it's going to be a while. Future statements. It's going to last for a little bit. Yeah. So everyone, his Twitter username is Tailgate Ted. He's got the links there. So shout out to him. And then my cool throne is...

and the Philadelphia 76ers for not posting about the Eagles. Should we talk about that? I didn't know to put that in a hot seat or quotes around. That makes sense. Josh Harris. Well, not really.

Not really. Every other team in Philadelphia posted about the game. The Sixers went radio silent. Kind of a salty move by Josh Harris. Like, the Sixers are Philadelphia. You have to separate those two. And also, what would... Yeah, but does Philadelphia own the Sixers or does Josh Harris? Well, I mean, the people...

I mean, the people kind of... There's another thing. It's their team. Jeffrey Lurie wants to buy the Celtics. Yeah, wants to buy the Celtics. But Hank, what would it hurt Josh Harris for the Sixers to just be like, good job, Eagles, on their Twitter account? That's one of those moves, like, you just have to just ignore it because if you don't, it's a Streisand effect. You're not going to... They don't post it and then everyone's like, you're a salty, petty bitch.

Maybe he is. He probably is, which I'm fine with that. But just, dude, who cares? Just fucking let him post it. If they had posted it, we would also talk about that on the show.

I don't think so. No way. I don't think anyone notices those posts. Max would definitely be like, your owner just congratulated the birds. There's no way I would have noticed that. Yeah, you would. Yeah, you would. The only reason is because people were going to all of the, every other team in Philly posted about it. The Waterdogs posted it. Shout out to Waterdogs. Shout out to Waterdogs. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, you're an owner of the Waterdogs. Yep. Wow. How about that? Bigger man than Josh Harris. That is true. Bigger man than Josh Harris. Way to go, Max. That's how you fight back. I didn't even think about that when I said that, but yep. I decided to put my business relationships aside and acknowledge the local team. I'm just more like, there's no way a Twitter post would bother you from the team you own. Is Josh Harris even on Twitter?

No, I don't think so. A lot of people are saying... Philly has not been happy with Josh Harris recently. They point at what's happening with the Commanders, and they say he doesn't care about the Sixers, all this stuff. Feels like that's not... Well, the Sixers suck, although the Sixers did just beat the Cavs. It is crazy to... Like, when you own multiple teams, I feel like you just put yourself in that spot all the time, where if one of them's not good, everyone's like, why aren't you making that team good? Yeah, because they're like, we're not your priority anymore. I just... There's no way...

He by not posting it, you're just like, oh, he's bothered. Yeah. That's my only point. Yeah. The commanders are to Josh Harris. That's Baron. The Sixers are like Eric. And then the Devils are like Don Jr. If you want to put it in Trump terms. Yeah. Yeah. You got that?

Sure. I don't know. I don't understand what that means. Also, I only found out about this because Max came up to me and was like, you see Josh Harris didn't post this? Yeah. Well, yeah, it was Matt. Yeah. So you actually care about, like, now I'm back on PFT's side because, like, you can't actually be like, why the fuck having the Sixers post this? Well, no, no, no. I didn't know about it until other people were talking about it. And then, although realistically, I think it's probably, like, the social media manager who was like, uh...

I'm just not going to post about this because I don't know if my boss... Yeah, there's a very good chance that this never got to Josh Harris' desk. I assume that's probably what it was. Yeah, I don't want my boss mad at me. Correct. Yeah, and honestly, fair play to both sides because if he had posted that from the Sixers, then I would have been like, what the fuck, dude? His fans in D.C. would be mad.

or his fans in Philly would be mad if he doesn't post it. You know what he should have done? He should have just posted from the Sixers' account, good season, Commanders, you just ran into a better team. Like, compliment the Commanders and be like, but the Eagles are a better team.

Like, this shit happens. That's what sports are. The NFC East once again representing the NFC in the Super Bowl. Congrats. NFC Beast. Yep. NFC Beast. NFC Beast. They have not, because usually teams will get bullied into this. They have not updated it. Do you think they'll post anything for the Super Bowl? They got to, right? If they win? Yeah. Yeah. They got to.

Also, the real... If they lose and they post something, that'd be very funny. Yeah, now that would be funny. Yeah. They're like, oh, so close. Great season, guys. Nothing to be ashamed of. So close. Basically like you didn't win a playoff game. Yeah. If you don't win the whole thing. All right, let's get to... I guess it falls on our shoulders now. Let's get to JOC. We got our exit interview with him about the fantasy football season and what our strategy is going forward.

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Okay, we now welcome on one of our very, very dear friends. He's a very, very, very, very, very, very special guest. All right. It is Jerry O'Connell in studio. There's no one that's more committed to us than Jerry O'Connell. When I texted him, I was like, hey, we want to have a recap of the fantasy season, football season, everything. Yeah.

He just said, okay, what day works? And I was expecting it to be Zoom. And he's like, all right, I'm going to land in Chicago at 7 a.m. Then I'm going to fly back out at 3 o'clock. That's what you do for us. Yeah. You came in. You have the briefcase. Oh, yeah. What's the flight schedule today? Flight schedule was I flew out last night at 11 p.m. Okay. Landed five something. Okay.

Went to... It's great. They're a partner. Went to Planet Fitness. You should have just come here to our new gym. I should have, yeah. We have a Planet Fitness right here. Yeah, I would have come here. It's just like Hank is all oiled up and stuff. Yeah. Like waiting on the squat rack and...

And you got to go in the locker room with him. And he's like, you want to do steam? And you're like, no man. Yeah. And he's like watching you. And then, uh, I didn't bring shower shoes. There's no way I'm going in that shower barefoot. Yeah. Yeah. Um,

So I just went to my PF, man. You went to your PF? Yeah. And then you went and got a breakfast? Yeah, I got a breakfast around the corner. And then when do you fly back? I fly back today at 3 p.m. There it is. My daughters have volleyball practice tonight, and I've got to go watch them play.

Not start and not play well and act like I'm involved. That's a nice quick John out here. Did you stop at any apartments that you've been looking at? Because Jerry always sends us apartments, usually on Chicago's Gold Coast. He's like, hey, look what you can buy here. It's so funny. My algorithm is so crazy. By the way, shout out to all the algorithms out there. They've really got it figured out. Shout out to the algorithms. Red note. My algorithm is... Well, I mean...

First and foremost, it's usually like boobs. Big tits. Yeah, no, mine's all... I've actually... I don't know if you do this, but I... Because the algorithm always works that if you click on it, if you watch the video, they'll give you more of that. So I always make sure that I watch the big tits. So now it's pretty much only big tits. Yeah. It is just... It gets a little awkward because I have two teenage kids and a wife. And if you say anything like...

Oh, hey, look at this text that so-and-so sent. And it's Instagram. That usually comes up. And I'm always like, whoa, what is this? I'm not following them. What is this? Shout out to Zuckerberg. But it's that. A lot of it lately has been Josh Allen crossing an imaginary line.

First down line on that fourth down play. I don't know if it heard me talking about it. It's in my thoughts. I mean, I actually haven't been talking to anybody about it. I've just been thinking about it a lot because I live at home with my wife and daughters and I'm the only one who watches football, so I have no one to talk to about it. So I haven't even been saying anything out loud. It's just been feeding me that feeling.

And finally, what it gives me is moderately priced apartments here in the Chicago area. They are great deals. Yeah. I must have clicked on one and sent it to you guys. And now...

It's my thing. Oh, also I have other algorithms. Like I have a giant's friend and anytime there's a giant's meme or anything, you know, a lot of stuff with Daniel Jones wearing his helmet on backwards. I don't know if you saw that one. Like I sent him that jets me. I have a few jets friends that I send jets means to. And yeah,

I mean, we should talk more and I could send you some commander's memes and some bears memes. Yeah, that'd be great. You have free reign to send any text. You know, it's funny. I don't send you guys many sports memes because I'm sure by the time I've seen it, it's been sent to you one million times. So I try not to waste your time. I do have a texting relationship with both of you and I don't try to abuse it.

I try to send you interesting things. And you also have a texting relationship now with Max, Memes, and Pug. Yeah. You got the whole, you basically asked for all the numbers and you've been texting with, I almost just threw you into the part where I take group text.

No, I haven't quite made it to that. But then it would turn to green. Yeah, it'd go green. And also we'd be talking about what dinners we're going to get a lot and you'd be jealous. Wasn't it so fun being your fantasy manager this year and finally getting into that game

group text and being the only green bubble just to fuck with them hard. I think it was a 15 person group chat. I tossed Jerry in. It immediately turned to the green bubble and everybody was like, who the fuck is this? And Jerry just immediately became an agent of chaos and started sending shirtless pictures to the chat. You took it upon yourself to organize the draft order by taking names out of hat while shirtless. Well, we were a week away from our draft and we still did not have a draft order. So I made a video of myself

Doing the draft order. And if you recall, there was a controversy, as they say in England, a controversy where we got the first pick. Yeah. And everyone said I cheated. Yeah. And I was actually upset that we got the first pick because you got to take Christian McCaffrey. And thank goodness. Yeah. Thank goodness. They just went to some random pick a nader to redo the draft because we would have been fucked hard.

Yeah. It started with a bang. I thought people didn't really appreciate Jerry from the get-go. But then after like one, two, three months, they grew to love Jerry. And now Jerry is like the unofficial mascot of that fantasy league, which it goes to show you, if you keep Jerry around long enough, you're going to end up loving him. Yeah. Guys, I really...

I feel like I'm almost like the Mark Andrews of our league. Like, I really dropped the ball for you guys. I lost by, for those who don't know, I posted a few times on X. We lost in the game that would have taken us to the championship by .10 points. .10. And that's on the manager. Yeah.

You know it is on me. It's on the manager. I got to tell you, hand up. I take full responsibility. I never admitted this to you, and I'm going to say it now. At the trade deadline, we were offered a straight-up trade. Max, you listening? Max? Yes, I'm listening. I'm listening. We were offered a trade straight-up. A.J. Brown, we had Joe Mixon, and I turned it down. And that is why we lost. Yeah.

I don't know if you recall, but those last few weeks, Joe Mixon just shit the bed. He had single digit scoring weeks, week after week after week. And you have to start Joe Mixon. And, you know, I'm not defending myself here, but in my defense, you know, A.J. Brown at this time was throwing helmets on sidelines, right?

He was reading self-help books in between plays. I just thought the Eagles were going to eagle and I didn't want any part of that. And that was my mistake. And I want to apologize to your faces. Okay. I appreciate it. I feel accepted. Because I got to tell you,

That, I'm sorry, what were you going to say? I just feel a little bit like John Mara, where it's like, I'm going to kill myself if A.J. Brown beats us. Yeah, I'm doing this right now. Is it fair to say, Jerry, you're not on the hot seat?

But people are asking if you're on the hot seat. I think, yeah, I don't even think it's a hot seat. I think people are saying maybe he needs like, you know, when a coach, Nathaniel Hackett, when he was with the Broncos, he had to bring in a clock manager. Do we need to bring in maybe someone who's won championships before to be like a senior analyst that can at least, you can talk things through with them and

When you're worried about a trade or a starter sit, just an old head that maybe has been through the wars that can give you some advice. That's just been thrown out there. Yeah, not anybody that's above you. Right. But just somebody that you can ask questions. Well, that person, if we brought in that person, they would technically report directly to us. Right. And Jerry would have to report to them. But again, not above you.

I would like to remain calling all the plays. Okay. I feel that responsibility should be mine. I'm a coach of men. Wait, what did Siri say? Leader of men. I'm a leader of men. And I think I can handle it. I just want to say for the record, two years ago, we made it to the finals and we lost. And this year, we came in third. So...

I mean, it's a lot of numbers. I mean, like Josh Allen just defended his coach. Yeah, I know, but questions are happening with Sean McDermott. It's like, has Sean McDermott been the same coach ever since DeMar? Have you been the same fantasy manager since DeMar? I want to say, for those who don't recall, we went to the championship the week that DeMar Hamlin...

Say it. Almost died. Prayers for DeMar. Prayers for DeMar. Prayers for DeMar. Went down and we were losing by just a few points and we had to negotiate to have our quarterbacks be a part of our total score the next week. And we lost. Look, you know what?

I realize that my job is on the line here. No, no, no, no. Listen, we didn't want this to be an accusatory. It's not an intervention. We just have had internal discussions about the framework of our organization. When we lose in the playoffs...

We have to look in the mirror and say, what can we do better? The process. Is the process what we want it to be? Because the standard that we have as an organization, it couldn't be higher. Yeah. The standard is anything less than championship. Right. We don't think about that. Our goal is to win championships here. And I'll speak on behalf of Big Cat. We're giving you a vote of confidence. You're our manager. You are our manager. You're our manager, whether we...

add a general manager who knows but what would you say the standard is uh the standard is i no no no already missed already fucked it up what is the standard jerry championships no jerry what is the standard the standard what is it what is the standard the standard is winning no so close your standard is defeat is impossible just repeat it the standard is the

There it is. Got it. All right. That's our guy. I don't like how long it took to get there. You know what? See, we're culture guys. I don't know how long it took. I don't like how long it took to get there. Okay. Let me go through. I did some research. I have a fantasy recap and what we might do next season. Is it okay if I go through that? And then you can... I had a question for you before we go through that. Sure. It's not the Roback question. No, it's not the Roback question yet. What?

Is your wife ever going to follow us on Twitter? All her tweets are just tweeting at us and she doesn't follow us. That's a, that's a, I'm just saying like locker room culture is,

I went and looked, and the last four tweets are directly at me and PFT. Yeah. And she does not follow us back. One of her tweets, our daughter just sent me this video. She was simply doing her homework on a Sunday night. They don't know who Dak is. This is Jerry's erratic behavior. I was talking about on your sports podcast. Also, there's a picture of you from Thanksgiving. What is happening, PFT and Big Cat? Jerry will only talk about benching Laporta. It's bumming everyone out. Happy Thanksgiving.

And then she said, so happy part of my take fantasy football season is over. Big Cat and PFT. Jerry is torture on Sundays. And do you know why? Because he sucks at it. Loser. Get a new manager. This is your wife, supermodel, by the way, who is calling you a loser and asking us to fire you. Is that winning culture? Listen, I don't. I'm not in charge of her socials. You know, I'm not that.

ingrained in her career. It's not like a Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds thing happening with the two of us. We do our own thing. But my wife maybe doesn't follow you guys because when you follow someone, you can DM someone. And last time I was on here, you talked for a good 90 minutes about how you used to masturbate to her image.

I don't think that's what we said. Over and over and over. I don't think that's what we said. I didn't say that. I said I loved her in the swimsuit issue. Yeah. Absolutely loved her. Yeah, but then you did a weird lip... You licked your lips and stuff. I don't think I licked my lips. We just said that her swimsuit issue was very...

big part of our childhood i became a man yeah yeah but i would there right there that's that you're moving that you masturbated to my wife and why would my wife follow you no i'm saying i she i i grew up yeah that could be anything that could be learning how to drive a car it could be a bar mitzvah that'd be quinceanera there's a lot of things that becoming a man is yeah

But why... You know, my wife for decades has dealt with weirdos and creeps saying things like that. And guess what? I will point this out to him. We'll handle him for her. Like, is Jerry bothering you, Rebecca? We'll help you. I will talk to her about following you. I'm sorry. I didn't know that you weren't being followed. Also... It's okay. It's okay, but she's... Listen, she is, I would say, the perfect example of...

our fan base being upset about our fantasy manager. So we want to hear from the fans. Okay. Maybe we need to do a, a Jerry con where we invite all the fans and they can tell us face to face. Hey, here's the problem with his fantasy managing. Cause we,

We answer to the fans. Jerry, let me just ask you this. Stand by me. Yeah, I was in it. Great film. Thank you. Classic. How would you describe that? What is the genre of film that is? A buddy, a coming of age film. Exactly. Interesting. Rebecca Romijn was a coming of age thing for me. You're making, I understand what you're using the word coming. No, no, no, no, no. You said it. You used the word coming. You started that. You, I, it was.

was a long view it was it was like it was not german right it was with the two dots yeah yeah it's a cooming of age he was zooming he was zooming there i would agree with you i'm not tuning of age yeah uh guys listen let me get to my fantasy preview for you what i can do for you as a manager i know you're thinking about bringing someone else in i don't want to bring anyone else in i think i can handle all the play calling duties let

Let me just give you the research I've done based on the 2024-25 season and what we have to look forward to. Okay. You have that floor. Yeah, this is basically, yeah, this is our exit interview.

after a tough season, what it is. That's what they do. Every team does this. After the season's over, all the players meet with the coach and the GM, talk about, hey, what's the direction you think you're going? How did you play? What can you get better at? Is this a performance improvement plan? No, it's not. No, no, no. We only have one of those that we're allowed to use, and it's currently being used. It's like a franchise tag we're currently using on memes. So the pip can't be passed around like that.

Okay, let me let me go through my preview. Okay, so the exit interview you're not exiting. What would you say you do here Jerry?

I didn't know that Joe Mixon. I mean, that's also just that's a transparency issue because you find out. Yeah. Like the athletic is going to do a story about this being like inside a tumultuous 24 hours of the part of my take fantasy league and be like Jerry O'Connell turned down AJ Brown for Joe Mixon. And that's where the season that's where he lost. Because imagine if you're AJ Brown or sorry, if you're Joe Mixon and you know that Jerry is shopping you.

How do you go play ball after that? It'd be tough. It would be tough. And you said that his season took a downturn right after you had him on the trade block? He actually fucked us. He fucked us out of winning the whole thing. Oh, guys, you want to see my Planet Fitness shorts? I was in sort of a rush. I had to go with the jorts today. Are those the bing bong jorts?

Oh man, how about Mr. Bing Bong? Can you believe I was in Stand By Me? I was in Jerry Maguire and currently the thing I'm most known for is Mr. Bing Bong. I can't wait for NBA playoffs. We got to bring him back.

All right, here we go. This is our fantasy recap exit interview. You don't like that word, but that's what they use. I don't like it. Let's start with the AFC North. Let's start with the Bills. That was a bummer this weekend. Oh, no. Hold on. Time out. Yeah. Big Cat, I think we need to get somebody. Oh, sorry. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. AFC News. Sorry. Is he...

I feel like Jill Biden now. I have to be like, no, he's fine. He's of sound mind and body. He can still do this job. Do you use Madden for any of your rankings and help in decision making? No, but actually...

Sometimes when I gamble, I look at fantasy defenses, how they're going to perform. And I was always looking for a system with gambling. And I thought, oh, what if I'll use fantasy defensive rankings and bet against the team that that defense is playing?

And it didn't work. It wasn't a system. I know that Brick is a listener of this podcast. Brick could be the guy that we bring in to work with Jerry. No, don't do it to me, guys. He knows the ins and outs of NFL franchise. Don't do it to me. So where are we starting? AFC East. Got it. Let's start with the Bills. Their receivers have been a total bummer this season. I mean, Khalil Shakir is their number one receiver. Omari Cooper...

They got hosed by the Browns, man. That was a bad trade. Kincaid has been a bummer. Of course, Josh Allen is a stud. Of course, James Cook, man. He was possessed on Sunday. Led the league with TDs. 16. Nobody else. Cooper was weird because it looked like it was going to be a good trade right at the start.

And then nothing. Nothing. He had one game against Tennessee. Yeah. But nothing. And by the way, that's what they were missing this weekend. All right, let's go to Miami. I want to apologize to you guys also for not making that A.J. Brown trade. But also, I did not see Jonu Smith this season. And that's something, if you are managing a fantasy team, you need to draft people in the 12th round who end up being a top five player.

in their position. Um, that's, that might even been a waiver wire. It may have been. Um, I just didn't see him and I apologize. It was too late. What happened with our wire this week or this year? Did, did we make any big pickups? Uh, we, um, you know, Jalen Warren was a waiver wire pickup. Um, uh,

I don't really recall at this time about our waiver wire. I do not recall. Please note it in the exit interview. He said, I do not recall. That big can I have? Like Belichick? It's like the undrafted free agents. That's where you win. Yeah, and his answer was, I do not recall. Do not recall. Not important. But you know what? Tyreek Waddle and Tua, A-chan, of course, is incredible. But I got to tell you my problem with Miami. Your head coach...

shiver on a sideline. No. That's not allowed. And I got it. I'm not even making a joke here. Like refugees shiver like like dogs dogs that don't have homes. Oh by the way Max way to be congrats on Nola Max. Thank you Jerry. Billy whatever. Yeah. Nola. Yeah. Nola. Yeah.

Rescue dogs shiver. Yeah. You know, head coaches can't shiver on national television. That's why I like a fat coach. Yeah. You have a good layer of insulation. Yeah.

By the way, I think Tyreek Hill is going to go to Washington. You think so? Oh, interesting. I don't know. I think Josh Harris is going to pay that $27 million, and it's going to open everything up, and I'm really looking forward to that. Yeah. He's a great player. He's still really, really good. I just don't know. You got to take a gamble on some of the off-the-field stuff. I think Coach Quinn can handle it. Okay. I think that would be fun. The Jets. Memes, are you there? Hello. Hello.

None of them ever again, ever again. I think this team this last season is going to be studied for what not to do. By the way, this is part of my take. We have to have takes. I think the problem is Aaron. Okay. I think he's the problem. And I'm going to tell you why. I told you I have teenage daughters. They're at the age now where they're bringing suitors home.

young men and I make them say hello to me and I shake their hand and I go, hello, nice to meet you. I'm their father. And I look them in the eye. I look them in the eye to look for, to see if they're druggies. And I got to tell you, Aaron Rodgers has druggie eyes. He looks like a druggie. And I know this because I'm dealing with young men all the time. And I look at them and I'm like, is this a druggie? Is this a druggie? You're a druggie. Get them out of here.

Aaron Rodgers just has druggie eyes to me. And you know what? You don't want that around brick. We mentioned brick impressionable impressionable. Yep. Oh, I, my jets buddy memes. Are you still there? Still here. My jets buddy thinks that Justin Fields is going to come to the jets. Interesting. Yeah. I got a name for you. Okay. What about Derek Carr?

That's a good name. Yeah, it's a good name. I just, this season really. You're just off quarterbacks. This season with him, I'm just not feeling it. I know he's a friend of the show. I listened to his interview. It was a great interview. He must, he looks good. Good arms. Definitely works arms. No druggy eyes. Maybe Prozac eyes. He's got the mascara. He's got beautiful eyes. He's got pretty dreamy eyes. Yeah. Yeah.

I do think Aaron Rodgers will go to... I think he'll go to Tennessee. That's kind of perfect for him. I could see that happening. Yeah. Maybe the Browns. Maybe the Steelers. Maybe. All right. The Patriots. Hank, are you there? Yeah. Hank, man, can you believe that...

People actually get nervous when I'm about to talk about their memes. Give your final judgment. I can't believe it actually matters. Oh, memes hate you, by the way, from what you just said about the Jets. Yeah. Listen, memes, I'm a Jets fan. It's got to be said. Sorry, memes. He didn't have a coach all season. See, he's mad. Also, Devante Adams and Garrett Wilson, you should take them. Hey, you know what? I want to ask you, memes. Aaron Rodgers, does he have druggy eyes?

Yeah, he's a full-blown drug addict. But he had the second best season in the franchise history. Top five quarterback. Top five quarterback. He was top five in everything, the Texas game. Hank, we're going to draft Drake May next season. Fuck yes. Wow. We're going to draft him. Let me tell you, Josh McDaniels is going to turn Drake May into Brady 2.0. Wow. I got to tell you, Hunter Henry, Hank, you're back.

Not only that. I think that's the first time that's ever been said. Hunter Henry, you're back. Hank is back. You guys are picking fourth? Yeah. All right. Let me say this. New York shitball Giants pick third. If they pass on Travis Hunter, the Giants.

And the fucking Patriots get Travis Hunter. I will be so... Because then we have a Hank problem for years to come if that happens. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So... Then Hank becomes Hunter Henry at that point. It's so scary. Oh, but you know what? I think you should... The Giants should take Travis Hunter. I think you guys at four should reach for that...

I'm going to mispronounce his name. Tet McMillan Tettoria. Oh, from Arizona. Yeah, that awesome wide receiver, Tettoria. Somebody help me look it up. Max, you're good with names. Max? You can just call him Tet. That's what I've been saying. No, I want to say his full name. Look it up. Tet, Tettoria. Tet. His name's Tet. His name's Tet. Good one, Hank. Tettoria. Tetoria.

Come on, Max. Guys. Give it one shot, Max. Go for it. Tatiroa. T-Mac. Tatiroa. Tatiroa. Tatiroa. Tatiroa. Tat. Tat. Tat. All right, T-Mac. I think you should draft T-Mac in that fourth spot. You should reach for it. But Hank, great job, man. I mean it.

Really good job. Thank you. Okay, we're going to get back to Jerry O'Connell in a second, but does everyone know what time it is? What season it is? Hockey season. 227. It is hockey season. Basketball. Basketball. But it's also tax season. That's right. It's tax season, which we all know Hank is not a fan of.

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All right, let's head over to the AFC West. Okay. I got that right. The Chiefs, right? Yep. Yeah. Okay, the Chiefs. It's tough to get a beat on them because everyone was injured this year. You know what? I know Mahomes had big games, that Carolina game, that Tampa game, a couple others, Houston, Pittsburgh, but he had kind of a blah season. He didn't... This is a fantasy recap. Obviously, they had a winning record.

This isn't about records. This is about fantasy. Everyone on that team had a blast season and watching them these last few weeks. I have a feeling these old heads wait till the playoffs to start playing. Like watching Travis Kelsey. It's like he really didn't start playing until last weekend. And that's not what we care about. You know, like we want regular, we want weeks one through 17. Oh, Hey, I have a non fantasy question. Okay. Um,

Obviously, Josh Allen and Hallie Steinfeld. Mm-hmm. Haley. Steinfeld? Haley. Haley Steinfeld. Mm-hmm. Tettoria. Yeah. Get engaged. Do Travis and Taylor, do they feel that pressure? I think they...

I think she's waiting to propose to him. I think her fans would be like, how dare Travis think that he can propose to her and put her on the spot like that? Well, isn't she sort of like a, I don't want to put anyone inside of a, like a, I don't want to cage anybody into their artistic boundaries. I don't want to give anyone artistic boundaries, but isn't she sort of a mainstream, like aren't we waiting for like a formal like engagement from them? Like, isn't that informal if the woman is engaging? Sorry to-

be uh well i guess i was just i was thinking uh somebody asked the question in the gambling cave on sunday what if the at the end of the super bowl confetti coming down travis kelsey gets on a knee and proposes to taylor swift and we were saying that the swifties would not like that no because that's putting her on the spot at his biggest moment so what if she proposed to him at like the grammys or at her big like a big concert that she was having

That to me feels like that might be the way that relationship's going. Yeah. AMAs, Grammys. Yeah. Then they just become essentially the king and queen of America at that point. Wow. They become the number one tabloid story. Yeah. What are Travis and Taylor doing today? There's got to be pressure. They're also at that age where everybody's getting engagement rings and-

You know what? He's just given her a friendship bracelet. Like one of those concert. What do you call them? A friendship bracelet? Yeah. Where they give each other? Yes. A swift. Yeah. Friendship bracelet. Friendship bracelet. Yeah. It better be the best ring ever. Got to be. Ever. All right. So yeah, none of the Chiefs. Okay. Chargers. Oh, you know what, guys? I want to thank you. In our fantasy preview in August, you told me to draft Ladd McConkie. Yeah. And you were right.

That's how you win fantasy. He was a 10th round draft pick for us. So let's see the most important pick that our team made. Me and Big Cat actually made that pick. And he just said, that's how you win fantasy. And we didn't win anything. We're not winners. Sounds like the standard is just getting into the playoffs. Just write that down. Hey, you know what? Part of my take. Gotta have a take. Justin Herbert, for fantasy reasons, kind of sucks. Yeah, they ran the ball a lot.

He's not really going to work for us. I got to tell you, too, about the Chargers. That Quentin Johnson drop in week 12 against Buffalo. The circumstances, I think it was third or fourth down. They needed it. It was against Baltimore, right? It hit him in the hands and he dropped it. That was some...

That was some... Remember Daniel Jones tripping on the way to the end zone? That was some butt fumble. Yeah. That was some Cody Parkey double doink. That was like... I can't look at that franchise for a few years after that drop. It's just one of those... It's fair. Oh, Najee Harris might go there. That would be interesting. That would be interesting. Possible landing spot for Tyreek, but other than Ladd, we're not touching anybody. Let's go to Denver. Okay. I have kind of a take with Denver.

Denver gets Tee Higgins or Stephon Diggs. Cortland Sutton and Bo Nix are must drafts. Their defense, we played them so much this season. They're awesome. They could, in that draft, reach for that Matthew Golden guy, that tall Texas wide receiver. Denver's running game, we're not touching it. Gervonta is old. Please don't tell me. Aldrick Estime is good. But if they get...

Tee Higgins, Bo Nix, Cortland Sutton, must drafts. Okay. So you think that if they get another really good wide receiver, then their number one receiver gets better. Yes. Yes. Or their number, or we go with whoever their number two receiver is. But they just, I have a theory and fantasy that

You need that Addison to help Jefferson. You need that Jefferson to help Addison. It opens it up and people score more points. I mean, point...

Look at the Lions this season. They all opened it up for everybody. Yeah. I do think that Bo Nix is going to have a great year next year. Have you seen the clips of former quarterbacks for Sean Payton talking about the play calls that they have to learn? No. And how long they are? They go on for like 15 seconds sometimes. You have to tell everybody on the offense what you're doing on that play and then also throw in, okay, here's what we're going to check to in case they blitz.

The fact that Bo Nix played that well his rookie year in Sean Payton's season, I think he's going to be great in his second year. I like it. Okay, let's go to the Raiders. I don't know what's going to happen there. Now, if they get Shador, okay, which they're saying they may trade up to get Shador. They may trade with the Titans. That's a possibility. Then I have to tell you, Jacoby Myers and Bowers become must drafts. Love that. If...

Russell Wilson is their quarterback. I'm not even going to watch a Raiders game. Not only am I not going to draft anyone, because they're typically afternoon games because they're West Coast, I may not watch afternoon games next season. If Russell Wilson is the starting quarterback on the Raiders, if Pete Carroll does that to the Raiders fans,

I want nothing to do with the Raiders. Okay, fair. Oh, speaking of Russell Wilson, AFC North Steelers. Steelers are in the AFC North. Yes. Correct. Man, like that Seahawks defense. You know what? Richard Sherman was right. They carried Russell Wilson into the playoffs. Don't you ever talk about me. Remember that? Yeah, yeah. I was at that game. Oh, really? Yeah. Sorry, receiver like Crabtree. Okay.

Man, the Steelers are in for years of hurt. Yeah. It's going to be years. It's going to be bad. It's going to be bad. Oh, but you know what? I will say from a fantasy standpoint, Najee Harris leaving, Jalen Warren becomes a must-track. Good running back. Oh, George Pickens. Maybe the Commanders? I don't know about that. Why? That would be awesome for you. I love watching George when he's on a different team. Okay.

uh hank hank hank jerry jerry jerry jerry george pickens to the patriots you you don't think that coach raybill can straighten him out i don't know if anyone can straighten out george pickens he's so good though yeah but he's not but he's so good but he's also not all right uh ravens afc north right yep um oh man you know what i missed not drafting zay flowers fellas that was on me

You know, I work with a guy who told me once Zay Flowers was small and it was just in my head. That happens. It just gets in your head, you know? You get it taken. It's hard to get off it. But you know what? I got to say, man, I got to pay you guys a compliment. When I came in here with my preview, you said draft Derrick Henry because he's going to look good in a Ravens uniform. Yeah. And you were right. Yeah, he looks really good in a Ravens uniform. He looked big.

Let me ask you something. If you were in an executive position in the NFL, if you were making decisions about players in the NFL. The answer is yes. And you used these rules. Yes. You know what? He would look good in a uniform. Yeah, yeah. Do you think that would? Uniforms are 50% of the game. But do you think that sort of thinking would make for...

Do you think vibes? Yeah. Oh, yeah. You got to go off vibes sometimes. Like you look at the Photoshop of a guy and you think, okay, what if, for example, what if Tom Brady was a Tampa Bay Buccaneer? That looks good. Yeah. Derrick Henry as a cowboy doesn't really look as good. No. Yeah. You guys were wrong. I think you said Andy Dalton was going to be a good bear. He's going to look good as a bear. Didn't you say that? Well, listen, Andy Dalton, he did the new hair. So maybe it wouldn't work. I also love Derrick Henry's new hair.

Yeah. He goes even higher, I think, on my board next year. We are definitely, if they're around, going to draft Lamar and definitely Mark Andrews. That man is going to be on a mission. He's on a mission. He's got months to just sit at home and think about it. What a bummer. No, that was so funny when you posted the photo on X of Stavi. I'm not going to say it because it's on here, but with the thing in his mouth. Yeah.

You post that photo. And I remember looking at it and be like, whoa, I can't believe they're posting that. That's not good. And then I watched it. Yeah. None of it was in there. He was down bad. That was funny. The Bengals. Man, I got to say, you guys told me to draft Chase Brown. I didn't. Big miss. The more I go through this. This is a lot of misses. You can't do us under the bus. Sounds like we drafted a perfect team. You were right about Chase Brown. I missed on that one.

Gusecki kind of sucked. You know, T. Higgins, wherever he does go, something to think about. The last two seasons, he's missed 10 games. So that's something to think about when drafting him. Obviously, all the Bengals, they're great. And you know what? I think that Al Golden guy is their new defensive coordinator. I don't know anything about him, but he looks like a football guy. He's a good defensive coach. Do you think that with T. Higgins, maybe he missed some of the games because he was thinking about getting a big contract?

Protecting himself. No, I think some players just get injured more often. It's true. Browns. This is interesting. If the Browns draft Cam Ward, I think the Browns have the second pick. If they draft Cam Ward, Jerry Judy will be a must draft for us. Okay. If the Browns, because Coach Stefanski used to be Kirk Cousins' offensive coordinator, if Kirk Cousins goes to the Browns,

Jerry Judy will be a must draft. Wow. Ford and Chubb, we're not drafting them. But if they get a quarterback, Cam or Kirk- Draft Jerry Judy. We're drafting Jerry Judy. Okay. And when Chubb, when he's healthy, if you have Chubb or you have Ford and you're watching a Browns game, whoever scores a touchdown, you get excited and it's always the guy that you don't have. Yeah, exactly. Always. Exactly. Bummer. AFC South-

Is dead to us. Yeah, I was going to say, skip the whole thing. The entire division. They're just cursed. What is the word in... Hey, Max? Max? Max? Here, here. Present. What's the Italian-American term? It's the malochio. It's like the curse, right? A maloich? Yep. Malochio sounded right to me. It's malochio. I think it is. It's like the curse. Yeah. Titoria. Titoria. Titoria.

We got to get that. I want to apologize to Mr. McMillan, T-Mac. I'm sorry. Once we get it, we'll get it. But the Malochio, the AFC South just has the Malochio. CJ Stroud, let's start with the Texans. What a bummer, man. What a bummer. I got to tell you, Anthony Richardson, I believe, was more successful than CJ Stroud this season. I'm sorry. In terms of fantasy points, possibly. I don't even care about fantasy points. Just in terms of expectations...

That's a take. I like that. That's a take. I'd like you to go on. That's a, that's a quite a take. Yeah. Just in terms of expectations, CJ Stroud was a possible like Superbowl contender and he did not have a good season. Um, you know, I know I have a bad taste in my mouth because of Joe Mixon and that trade and how the Texans finished their season. Look, Nico's great. I get it. Tank get, get well soon. Um,

Mixon did have a good season, but I got to tell you, weeks 15, 16, 14, 15, 16, 17, it wasn't okay. Schultz sucked. None of them. They got the Malochio. The Colts sucked.

Oh, man, I got to take ownership of this, too. We drafted as our QB1 Anthony Richardson on our team. And that was a mistake. It will never happen again. I actually, I'm coming in here with takes. I think Anthony Richardson is out of the league in a couple years. Oh, wow. What did we say about that when Jerry said he's targeting Anthony Richardson? I was like, I don't like him. You said, don't do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Guys, don't fire me, please. Don't fire me. We're not. I paid for one third of it, too. I did. Yeah, your driveway suffered. And it was pricey. It was a hit. But I've... Yeah, the Colts, the Melochio...

Pittman was bad. Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor. Could you imagine if you had him on your team and he rips off that 41-yard run and at the one-yard line drops the ball? And I want to tell you, I wrote down what he said in his post-game interview. He wrote, you could be up 50, you could be down 50, it could be a playoff game, it could be the first season, it could be the first game of the season. That should just never happen. That's...

But he also, he did have incredible games down the stretch. I understand that. And he was out to prove a point after that. But, but, but it's still, I want someone to say, I'm changing my life. After they drop, after they do that at the one yard line and drop a ball. And by the way, lose a game that they should have won. Mm-hmm.

They should say, I need to change major things in my life. Something major has to change. That's rock bottom. Something major has to change. Not just like, that just can't happen. Yeah. This is about you, Jerry, not about me, but I was in three fantasy leagues. I won two out of three of them. And I had Jonathan Taylor. So again, it's about you. Jonathan Taylor, you...

You won with him? I mean, his last two weeks of the season, he had insane games. In the playoffs? In the fantasy playoffs? Yeah. It's more about that one yard for you, though. Yeah. But that's okay. I do agree. Winner, loser, loser.

How you decide to get there. I would like to see a little bit more like that's the, that's the worst thing that I've ever done in my life after that game. Yeah. I would like to, I would like to see somebody say that accountability, accountability matters. That's what we care about for us as we're managing the standard. Yep. Yeah. He, uh,

Weeks 16 and 17, he had 218 yards and three touchdowns. And then he went 125 yards and two touchdowns. Yeah, so Big Cat, if we're looking at one of our employees and they drop the metaphorical ball at the one-yard line, I would like them to say to me, I'm changing everything about my life. Yeah. I agree with you, Jerry. Good point, Jerry. He literally dropped the ball and then he scored six touchdowns in the last three weeks. Jerry makes a great point that we would like to hear that. Yeah.

Good point. Okay, Titans. Do we even do the Titans? Do we not have to do the Titans? I'm sorry. I lost my train of thought. I'm sorry, guys. No, no, it's okay. Keep going. Keep going. I dropped the ball at the one. People drop the ball all the time. Yeah. Oh, man. You know what else bums me out about the Colts? Oh, who is the Colts number one tight end? Tell me that.

Number one tight end. Who was their leading tight end? I'm just going to say Mo Alleycox for forever. No, it was someone named Kylan Granson. Kylan Granson, Mo Alleycox, and their other tight end, Drew Ogletree, had a total of 400 receiving yards all season long. That's not okay. Dallas Clark, Jack Doyle, Colby Fleener, Tammy are rolling over in their...

Retirement chairs. Jesus. Melocio. Melocio. The Titans. Oh, I do want to say, I know if we were going to draft anyone in the AFC South and we're not because they're dead to us, Pollard's got some gas in the tank, man. Yeah, I don't hate Pollard. We did draft Pollard on our team. All right, good work. Good job. Okay, and if the Titans do not make that trade spots with the Raiders and take Cam Ward-

Calvin Ridley becomes a must-draft. If that druggie Aaron Rodgers goes there, Calvin Ridley becomes a must-draft. If we were drafting AFC South players. Oh, Cam Ward goes to the Titans. Their new general manager, Nick Borghese. Not Nick Borghese. Nick... Nick...

Nick Borgonzi. Nick Borgonzi is their new general manager. He's the one who scouted Patrick Mahomes for the Chiefs. Okay. So, Cam Ward on the tights. Watch out. Best quarterback of all time. Watch out. Jaguars, I guess Brian Thomas Jr. He's pretty good. You can't draft Bigsby or Tetien.

Do they have a general manager yet? No. Tell me about Ian Cunningham. Who is Ian Cunningham? He is the assistant general manager for the Bears, and I would like for him to go to the Jaguars because the Bears would get two picks in the third round, compensatory picks. Wow. So you have no... I'd like the picks. You'd like the picks over... He seems like a pretty good guy that's trusted and, you know...

But I would like to fix. All right. Anyway, we're not taking anyone from the AFC South. NFC East. We're in the NFC. Okay, let's go. It's the Eagles, right? Yeah. Yep. Okay. Birds. Max, next season, if I'm the manager, will I be drafting any Eagles? Max. Yep.

First of all, before I say this, how do we pronounce Goddard? Is Goddard? Goddard. You were right the first time. Just Goddard. Yep. Yeah. But it's spelled G-O-E-D. Yeah. So it's spelled Goddard. Pronounce Goddard. Yeah. Goddard. Goddard. We're drafting all the Eagles, man. All right. Every single one of them. And if I am offered a trade for A.J. Brown, I'm just going to fucking click accept trade.

That feels like something we shouldn't telegraph. Man. Smokes. Yeah. We're just, we're putting out some disinformation right now for anybody listening in that league. You understand why I didn't make that trade, right? I mean. No, I don't. I don't. Because of the book? Yeah. Because you read a book? Yeah. Man. Yeah.

man remember that max i just want to say i know everyone talks about goddard and by the way i believe don't quote me on this leading receiver in the playoffs for the eagles um but you know when he won me over that triple stiff arm in the wildcard weekend man bow bow bow bow bow incredible went back for more he could have just kept going but he said he had to slow down to give him just one more punch oh i gotta give you another props now that we're on the eagles i was staying at a uh

I don't know if they're a partner of the show. I was staying at a Marriott Bonvoy Hotel. Sorry. No, that's okay. And I was just sitting in bed and there was like a Marriott channel and Jason Kelsey had like an infomercial on there because he's the spokesperson. He's not usually on TV. He was great. He was really good. Yeah. I thought he had a really good personality. Talented guy. Yeah. I watched that infomercial. It was like a 20 minute infomercial and I was riveted. Yeah.

I thought it was good stuff. I mean, he's not playing anymore. Are you sure it wasn't just... He has a TV show. He has a late night show. He does? Mm-hmm. Friday nights. Was it a Friday night? What is it on? ESPN. ESPN.

Sorry, guys. This is the only sports. I get all my sports. You're right. Love that. Love that. Good point. Because Mario Lopez is usually the guy that I see on TV when I turn on a TV in a hotel. Do you ever think... Do you ever see Mario Lopez and be like, man, if my career had just gotten a little better, that could be me? Good question. Good question. Good question. Um...

no i try to just worry about my own lane okay all right yeah no hey listen i mean i'm i'm here that's true that's a good point i flew here coach last night that's a good point that's a good point fitness did you raw dog it uh no i put on uh noise canceling headphones okay um yeah i went to a plan of fitness i took a shit i showered yep and i came here yeah living the dream

Doesn't Mario Lopez want to be fighting for his chance to manage your fucking fantasy team again next season? Isn't that something that he aspires to do? Why should he just like... Mario Lopez probably would be awesome as a fantasy team. He's a good looking guy too, isn't he? Yeah. Ageless. NFC East commanders, right? Yeah. Oh man, I know I've said this before. If Scary Terry gets...

one more receiver, maybe Devonta Adams, maybe Tyler Lockett, who doesn't want to be in Seattle anymore. Tyreek Hill. He would have a Jamar chase, a Jamar chase like season. Wow. I like that. I think we will get a wide receiver. I think you can, you can bet on that going in next year. If we draft somebody in the first round, or if we, we signed somebody in free agency, I think we will have a very good number too. Um, that Zach hurts is so awesome too. Um,

Man, so good. Hey, anybody see that video? I didn't hear you guys talk about it. We're Fletcher Cox. Max, you on? Max? Max? Max? I am here. Fletcher Cox hugging Zach Ertz. Fletcher Cox hugging...

Zach Ertz, man, that was emo, man. Yeah, that was. Because it's Fletcher Cox, and he obviously can't pass a line. And he's going, Zach, Zach! And it's like calling someone from the stands, you know? Zach! Oh, man, that was really emotional. Yeah, it was cool. That moment. I really liked that. Ertz not retired. He wants to make that very clear. He shouldn't. Yep. He was awesome, man. God, I love a Washington tight end as well. Cooley, Vernon Davis, Logan Thomas. Love him.

Yeah, maybe they draft that Matthew Golden guy that we talked about earlier, that Texas guy. Or Savion Williams. TCU, college football expert. Yeah. Ohio State. Let's help Jaden out a little bit, everybody. Jaden and Terry. Oh, the Cowboys. Okay, this is interesting. I guess Dak is staying there because Coach Schottenheimer is now the head coach, right? So...

I guess all those rumors about other people coming in and other head coaches and all that stuff is not happening. I don't think you really can move Dak. I think he probably has a no trade clause, right? You could trade him to the Titans. Would he be a better quarterback if his name was Zach? Zach Prescott. Yeah, Zach Prescott for sure. Zach Prescott would be a pretty good quarterback. But yeah, I think Dak has the no trade, so I don't know that he would leave. All right. So he's staying there.

I got to tell you, that makes me not want to be a part of the Cowboys. And by the way, you know Jerry Jones is going to – Jerry Jones. You know T. Higgins is probably going there. Stephon Diggs. He's going to get Aaron Jones over there. Water is wet. The Dallas Cowboys are going to go 6-11. It's just – it's going to happen. I don't care who is over there. Mm-hmm.

We'll draft Brandon Aubrey. He seems to be their whole offense. All right. See? Yeah. Good job. The best kicker of all time. Good kicker. Jerry O'Connell. Okay. Let's get to the Giants. Still NFC East, right? I think the Giants have the most intriguing offseason of any team in the NFL. Now, do you have a bias against the Giants, Jerry?

I don't mind the Giants. Because earlier, I think you called them the New York shitbag Giants. Well, they had a terrible season. They were unwatchable, and it's been that way for a couple of years. They have the third pick, right? Yeah. Okay. I said earlier, they've got to take Travis Hunter. There's some rumors that they might take Alabama quarterback. No. Jalen Noron? That'd be crazy high. Okay. It's been on some...

mock drafts yeah people will talk about it okay they get travis hunter sam darnold comes over to the giants he's got travis hunter malik and that quarter that uh running back tracy max they're winning the nfc east wow i don't know about that wow that's hell of a take wow max you you you hear those bells

Bing bong. Yeah. You hear footsteps, Maxie. Sam Darnold comes there. Travis Hunter, Malik, Tracy. They're winning the NFC East. It's always a different team every year. But they better not take that Jalen Milrow. I've seen some mock drafts with him up there. Let's go to the NFC West. The Seahawks, right? Yep. Yeah. That's good. Oh, God. All right. To prepare for this, I listened to about...

20 fucking hours of locked on Seahawks. Kill me now. Because I really didn't know what was going on with them. And I'll tell you, if we even think about drafting anyone there, it's because they went 10 and 7 last year. And I want to tell you, the only reason why that team went 10 and 7 is because Mike McDonald is a really good coach. All right. After my 19th hour of locked on Seahawks, it seems like Tyler Lockett is leaving, which leaves...

Jackson Smith Najigba. I said that correctly, right? You did. That was a little scary one to say. Jackson Smith Najigba. Max, if I... Memes, if I said anything, just beat me out, okay? I'm really toeing the line there. Jackson Smith Najigba. Yep.

Say it three times fast. No way, man. No way. You're no way. You're not going to Michelle Beadle me here. No way. No way. JSN. How about just JSN? JSN. JSN. JSN. JSN. No way, man. No way. Max, have your finger on the button. Okay. Uh,

He's really intriguing if Tyler Lockett leaves. Okay. But you got to be careful. He only scored six touchdowns this season, and we need touchdowns if I'm going to be your fantasy manager and if we're going to win. Also, Gino Stain. What do you mean if? We said that you were. Yeah. You're not getting fired. You just might have a boss. The Cardinals. Kyler, I still love him. He's great. If he's around, we're going to draft him. Trey McBride is awesome.

Michael Wilson was a real bummer. Thought he was going to do a little better. Yeah, Harrison just needs to step it up or he needs help or something. I don't know what's happening there. Yeah, we're a pro Marvin Harrison podcast, just for the record. In case he happens to listen, big fans. Senior and junior. Of course. Yeah, both of them. Love them. Great family. He had a mediocre fantasy season, though. Yeah, but it was good. He's great. He's great.

I'm just saying if he's... Marvin Harrison, all the Marvin Harrison's are awesome. This is Jerry O'Connell talking right now. He lives in California. Not in Chicago. Marvin Harrison. But I'm your fantasy manager, and I want to say if he's there and we have a choice of another receiver, we're probably going of a cool sort of standing. But we're trying to protect you, but if it's going to be you or us, this is you saying that. Well, we're a team. Sound mind and body. We're a team.

We are a team. He is consenting to anything Marvin Harrison Sr. wants to do. Yep. We are one. We are a team. So if someone's here in Chicago and I'm not here, they can come see you. No, no, no. And you represent our team. No, no, no. Would you take a bullet for us? You'd probably let me, wouldn't you? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We'd throw you in front of it. Let's go to the Rams. Not Mario, though. Man, he looks so good, that guy. What does he do? Jerry, are you going to get into any superhero movies? Um...

No. You should try to do that. You should try to. I'm the voice of Superman. I'm the voice of Superman in the animated Superman movies. A few of them. Oh, okay. DC animation. Okay. But as a career move, maybe talk to your agent. Tell him Jerry's going to Marvel. Yeah. I mean, I've said that often, but it doesn't automatically mean that you're in those movies. Push a little harder.

I know, but you can want something all you want. It doesn't mean it's going to happen. Yeah, it's kind of like us in the fantasy championship. Speak it into existence. We'll get back to Jerry O'Connell in a second. He's brought to you by Uber Eats. Whether you're ordering wings for the game, whipping up a seven-layer dip, or ordering pizza, there's something about football that makes you want to eat.

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And now, here's more Jerry O'Connell. The Rams were taking all of them. That receiving core, that Puka Cup, and I got to tell you, Robinson. Robinson had two 2TD games. Shit, say that again. Robinson... I won't say Jackson Smith, Najigba Fast, but I will say two 2TD games. Two 2TD games. Last season, weeks eight and nine, man. Robinson, he may be suspended a little bit. He did have a DWI, but...

Man, that receiving core is awesome. You know, I know I told you I listened to 20 Hours of Locked On Seahawks. To do research for this, I also wanted to see where Matthew Stafford was, and I couldn't really find out any information. So I listened to about five episodes of Kelly Stafford's Time Out podcast. Okay. You got any... Kelly Stafford has a podcast, Matthew Stafford's wife. It's actually an interesting podcast. It's sort of... It's from the point of view of...

Is wag a offensive term? Yeah, you can say it. It's not offensive? Wives and girlfriends, right? Wags of football players. So it's sort of interesting. But I think the sixth episode I was on, Kelly got to talking about next season with her husband. And Kelly Stafford said, this was exclusively on the Time Out podcast. You don't mind if I mention other- No, go for it. That Matthew Stafford texted her

Let's talk about next season. So it sounds like he's coming back and Kelly is preparing herself for him to come back. Because I think, yeah, you would say let's talk if it was he's walking away. But since he brought in next season. Yeah. Let's talk about it. Yeah. So that means that next season exists. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. Brady didn't send that text, did he? No. No. He just did it. Yeah. He did. Yeah, he did. That's... I mean...

maybe he should have sent that text yeah yeah um you know i do want to say i did have a revelation on my seventh hour of uh time out with kelly kelly stafford um you gotta admit i do work for you guys so like yeah yeah yeah you put in the effort um effort is important it can take you so far also important but it also takes you so far but i was thinking as your sort of fantasy expert here um on part of my take um

Some people say to me after they yell like Bing Bong or stuff like that or yell like Maxie, they say like, hey, when are you getting a podcast? And, you know, I was like, yeah, like, when am I getting a podcast? Like, and then when I told you I was in the seventh hour of Kelly Stafford's timeout, I was like, you know what, guys, I think.

I think we've reached the end of the earth. I think there's all the pockets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've hit them all. You know what would be interesting, though, is like if there was a WAGS podcast, but for the wives and girlfriends of fantasy managers. And if there's anybody out there that is maybe like a wife of a guy that spends a lot of time on fantasy and he's annoying and you want to start a podcast, I think Barstool Sports would probably be interested in producing that. Yeah. Yeah, I might know somebody. We would be in for that, yeah. Hypothetically. Bet you guys would like that.

yeah i mean i follow me but yeah i just think we've hit critical mass with podcasts you know i just think it's over yeah bffs that's all about chicken fries ndas armchair talks about everybody's sober it's good it's healthy smart lists actors talking laughing at each other i mean rogan's got the ivermectin what would my lane i don't even know what my lane would be no i don't yeah

Pod saves America. Biden's all good. I mean, I don't even know what my lane would be. Yeah. I think that's it. All right, 49ers. Man, how funny that we dodged that Christian McCaffrey bullet. Yeah. Yeah.

We could have like... I almost had the first... We could have not won the championship. Yeah. But you know what? I got a problem with the Niners. And you know what? John Lynch obviously graded his job. They've been to two Super Bowls. Graded his job. What's going to happen with Brock Purdy? I don't know. Probably pay him money. I understand that. But is John Lynch going to John Lynch and not... Is he not going to show up to camp? Like remember the whole... Because I think that whole Brandon Ayuk thing...

Tank their season. Set him on a bad path. What happens there? I don't know. Yeah, it's an interesting question because you would think that he would want to be paid more than Dak Prescott. And Dak Prescott is the highest paid player in the league. But then now you've got all that cap committed to Brock. Your team's already making, you've got a lot of questions about who you keep around. And also you kind of owe Brock Purdy because nobody talks about Trey Lance because of Brock Purdy. Mm-hmm.

And all the picks you gave up to move up to get Trey. Yeah. It's funny. I didn't even think about that. Look, I'm always just pay the players. You end up paying them anyway, so why keep them out? But John Lynch plays hardball. He does. So we're going to stay away from the Niners. Also, I got to say, I don't know if it's my age range, but it makes me think of the early 80s and I get the colors. It gets kind of depressed. I think of...

cigarettes and earthquakes and just like, I don't know. They kind of depressed me. It's always an afternoon game. All right. NFC North lions, all of them. The fact that Jamison Williams went so off weeks 16 and 17, it just opens up that entire offense. Just all of them, all of them, every single one of them. I do think coach Campbell should have not played any starters in week 17. I thought that was a big mistake.

I thought it was a big mistake. I think it's why they're not playing in the Super Bowl. You know, it was so funny. I was thinking when Saquon watched Shipley score a touchdown on Sunday to see how pumped he got. Max, are you still on?

I'm here, I'm here, I'm here. To see how pumped he got. Jerry's like Max's dog. He gets separation anxiety. He's like, Max, Max, Max. He can also, I'm right here. You can see me. Oh, yeah. It's cute, though. You get afraid that Max left. I think it would have pumped the whole team up, and I think they would have performed better against in the postseason. You know, I think it has a lot to do. I'm not kidding. And this is part of my take. I got to have a take. Yep.

I think a lot of it has to do with Copenhagen. I don't know if anyone has ever, I know we have like fans is in out there and stuff. Lucy. Yeah. Lucy apologies. That's okay. Let me, you want one? No, no, no. Let me, let me try that again. I think you should have one. No, no, no. Thank you. Thank you. I'm off the neck. You want a lip pillow? Um, I know we're all fans of Lucy here. Yep. Um,

do it again three two one like you know mario is like a super professional he does yeah no he goes like this well he wouldn't fuck that up three two one i know we're all fans of lucy here and i gotta say because coach campbell is a copenhagen guy i think that's been established in right and if you don't know if you ever dipped copenhagen is like it's the main line of

chewing tobacco it's not like strands it's not like long it's like fine bits that go right to i mean your main lining nicotine yeah it's almost like drinking like dark black stella blue coffee and throwing in a lucy that's good that was um good job uh but um

I think because he's a Copenhagen guy, I think he's like, we're going to keep going. We're going to keep going. We're going to keep going. No rest. All gas, no brakes. All gas, no brakes. And you don't have a natural sense of like, hey, fellas, let's take a break for a week. Yeah, take a beat. So I think that all gas, no brakes doesn't work. Vikings. What's going to happen there? Is J.J. McCarthy going to be any good? I think he's going to be good. I think Kevin O'Connell will make sure he's good. Okay.

All right. I just don't know. I mean, we'll wait until the preseason. Oh, Kirk Cousins maybe going there? Going back? I don't think so. I think it's going to be J.J. McCarthy. I don't know what to do with Sam Darnold. Packers. Oh, Big Cat, this is going to excite you. Their receivers suck so bad. Yeah. Well, is it the receivers or is it Jordan Love? I think it's the receivers. I think it's the receivers. Could be both. I don't think Jaden Reed and Christian Watson are doing it.

I mean, Kraft is good. We're just staying away. The Bears, Big Cat, you ready? Yeah, none of them. Are you ready? Yeah. How do you feel? When you're about to hear my take on your team. I think you're going to say none of them. So anything over none of them is a success. Six out of ten. Six out of ten excited. Well, it's so funny. I did a couple drafts of this because the NFL is ever changing, especially these days with like hirings and everything.

We were going to say none of them. Yeah. That they were poison. I expected that. They infected your team, Mr. Smith. They were the monkey pox. They're the human papilloma virus of fantasy. These are all fair? But now that your coach is Ben Johnson. Yeah. All of them. Oh! He fixed everything. Turned around quick. Roma Dunze. He's the antidote. Is going to be Jameson Williams' son.

2.0. He's going to have two. He's going to have a rushing and passing. He's going to have three touchdowns a game. Okay. Holy shit. Let's talk about drafts. The person who should have won the Heisman, Ashton Gentry. Travis Hunter had a pretty good season. I don't know if you could do should have. Travis Hunter won the Heisman. What is this show called? Part of my take. I'm going to have a take. Okay. Anthony Richardson better than CJ Strauss. Okay. Is he going to be a bear?

Possibly. If he is a bear, can you imagine what Coach Johnson... All the things that I've said about him and having to interview him? Yeah, I've imagined. Can you imagine what Coach Johnson is going to do with Ashton James? Yeah. He's going to get freaky with it. What happened with DeAndre Swift this season? It was the offensive line, but also he's...

He's not very good, I don't think. I think there's a big difference between running behind the Bears offensive line and running behind the Eagles offensive line. I think that's what that showed us. Yeah. Maxie. NFC South, Falcons. Okay, I have a question for you guys. By the way, I'm going to say it right now. I won't work with someone else as your fantasy manager. I have to set...

He's trying to flip it on us. I have to set boundaries. I won't work with someone else. All right. It's just the three of us. That makes our decision a lot easier. Do not get along well with others? I don't want to be stuck with Brick. Isn't that Woody Johnson's kid? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I think if it's Brick, you should have to accept that. It's Brick or nobody. If we get Brick to do the... Yeah. Hot flash. Oh. He's taking off. Yeah.

Do you still have that weird tuft of hair in your back? It's getting hot in here. Yeah. I just had a hot flash. You guys are making me go through menopause. I won't do it. I won't work with someone else. It's the three of us. We'll take that into consideration. Or you don't get me. Go call fucking Mario Lopez. Go call the guys from Smartless. I feel like Mario Lopez would be pretty damn good as a fantasy manager. Go call Kelly Stafford. Go call my wife. Have them all... We want to. She doesn't follow us. NFC South. Oh, here's a question for you guys. Yeah.

I should probably start to wrap this up, right? No, that's okay. Okay. Let's start with the Atlanta Falcons. If a quarterback week 18 against the Panthers goes off, I'm talking two passing touchdowns, one rushing touchdown goes off. Looks amazing. Are we drafting him in the 2025 season? Talk about Michael Penix. I thought he looked pretty good.

I would maybe hold off. Maybe a late round backup guy. He's not your fantasy starter. Okay. Okay. What'd you see from him? Just that. See, here's the thing. It was week 18. It's like the last taste in your mouth. So you're like, oh, this guy. Yeah. I'm targeting him. No one else is watching this game. I don't think we should base our projections on week 18. Yeah. It's week 18. That's a pretty important fantasy week, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Kyle Pitts is never going to happen. I like that. That's the best point that you've made. Yeah. Started to come around. Yeah. That's growth. Bucks. Man, Stephen Che is going to get so excited right now. He's getting some blood flow. All of them. Every single one. I like that. Baker Evans. Chris Godwin before he got injured was like just...

having a record-breaking season bucky irving cade all of them um oh they have an offensive do they have an offensive coordinator yet i think they're working on they're working on it is it that uh that that grant guy from minnesota they're working on they're basically calling anyone who's talked to kevin o'connell or because if it's that minnesota assistant right yeah the bucks are must drafts all of them i like that um

They're about to have a lot of fun. Oh, yeah, it might be that Marcus Brady guy, too, who was the passing coach at the Chargers. Whoever it is, they're going to have fun. All of them. Saints, none of them. Could you imagine a world where Alvin Kamara is actually on like a team? Yeah, it'd be nice. I mean, what's his contract situation? Why is he there? I think they just didn't they give him two year extension? Yeah.

It's just not happening. What do you think about Spencer Rattler? No. No. Okay. All right. Good. Good answer. Panthers. Wrapping this up, guys. Can you believe Adam Thielen is still doing it? Yeah. He's still doing it. He's out there doing it. Oh, gosh. I know this has been a bad pronunciation. Chuba Hubbard, right? Yeah. No, it's Chuba. Chuba. Yeah. Chuba Hubbard. Not Chubba Hubbard. Chuba Hubbard.

Chuba Hubbard is a must draft. He just he's next season. If I'm still your manager, not working with anyone else. I know in the past I've said we're old school. We got to get some running backs in the first like three rounds. We're going to wait till rounds four, five and six to get our running backs. Okay. Chuba falls right into that. Okay. And my final take, I think Bryce Young is going to have a really good year. Okay. I like that.

So that's it, guys. Yeah. So we're like Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy. We're going to need some time, but you're not allowed to interview anywhere. I'm going to Jacksonville this weekend, but it's a personal thing. Yeah. We're going to block all interviews, but we're going to need some time to figure this out. By the way, guys, I loved your take on that.

um, hiring and saying like, Hey man, anything goes. Yeah. There's the NFL. There's a, there are no friends. Yeah. Yeah. Weird guy though. Uh, all right. So I have one last question for you, Jerry. Oh, uh, hold on a second. Yeah. Well, no, my last question might be what you're going to do. Just hold on one second. Okay. All right. You, all right. You hold on. Hang on. Okay. I'll hold on. You know, I got to tell you, I don't think you're seeing much leadership from me and I want to show you some. Yeah. You're trying to strong. I like that. I like that.

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For memes. Memes you there? I'm here. Memesy, memesy, memesy. Been a long time coming that memes got his own poem. Memesy, memesy, memesy. But it's tough to compete with that TV setup you've got at home. It's got three TVs. Memesy, memesy, memesy. Yes, all those TVs and stimulation could put people into sports media comas. Memesy, memesy, memesy. But we can say for certain, Max won't be watching any college football with Tiffany Gomez. He blew it.

Oh, he loves that show. Tootsies get cold.

Mimsy, mimsy, mimsy. We love hearing your electric voice. Never do you ever sound gassed. Mimsy, mimsy, mimsy. Always bringing the energy for this national sports podcast. Mimsy, mimsy, mimsy. Such an essential part of the show. You truly are the can-do man. Mimsy, mimsy, mimsy. Always staying ready in case this sweatshop hits you with that performance improvement plan. Pimple. Fuck these guys.

Meeamzy, Meeamzy, Meeamzy. Yes, you're one of the greats like Mattingly, O'Neal, and Matsui. Meeamzy, Meeamzy, Meeamzy. And you've lasted here way longer than our old friend Huey. Nothing, huh? No explanation?

Memesy, memesy, memesy. Speaking of things on PMT that we abruptly bid adieu to, memesy, memesy, memesy, whatever happened to that song Electric Avenue? Nothing, guys? No explanation? You're not going to say anything, huh? Nothing. Just ignore it. Memesy, memesy, memesy. We kid the staff here. We don't want to be a total hater. Memesy, memesy, memesy. We also don't want to set off alarms like you threatening to strap a bomb to your chest and go full Al-Qaeda. You can't do that, memes. You can't do that. It's not a joke.

Meeamzy, Meeamzy, Meeamzy, you are PMT's secret weapon. You're the glue. You're the special sauce. Meeamzy, Meeamzy, Meeamzy, and if you play your cards right, soon you can play golf all summer long and call yourself the boss. Thank you. Meeamzy, Meeamzy, Meeamzy, yes, it'd be fun to call all the shots from the comfort of golf carts. Meeamzy, Meeamzy, Meeamzy, more fun than watching someone for a whole weekend just throw fucking darts. Cool content, bro.

Meeamsy, Meeamsy, Meeamsy. Yes, we love to hear you and Maxie in the booth with all the back and forth needlings. Meeamsy, Meeamsy, Meeamsy. Like what to do with Max and PFT's hair, but careful around PFT's brand new seedlings. They're expensive.

Mimsy, mimsy, mimsy. For so much of this show, it is you that we have to thank. Mimsy, mimsy, mimsy. Even if you're continually threatening to physically fight Max and Hank. Mimsy, mimsy, mimsy. To the man of many talents and those talents you love to lend. Mimsy, mimsy, mimsy. Perhaps that anger would abate with the presence of a girlfriend. Hope she likes TVs.

Meeamzy, Meeamzy, Meeamzy, we all know you are capable of showing affection toward a special girl with a sense of humor and perhaps long, luscious hair. Meeamzy, Meeamzy, Meeamzy, that has been evident in the love and care you've shown Mr. Pear. You love that turtle. Meeamzy, Meeamzy, Meeamzy, you take such good care of Mr. Pear and all the pets that we neuter and we spay.

Meezy, meezy, meezy. But if you start dating that young lady chicken fry, don't ask her to sign an NDA. Don't do it. She doesn't like those. Meezy, meezy, meezy. We love hearing your optimism regarding the Jets, even in a season filled with strife. Meezy, meezy, meezy. And I want to thank you for being the only one here who hasn't talked about jerking off to my wife. It's weird, guys.

So, Mimsy, Mimsy, Mimsy, we love you, your wit, and your delivery that is oh so very dry. Mimsy, Mimsy, Mimsy, you will always be, pardon my takes, number one turtle guy. Love it. That's great, Jerry. That was incredible. A beautiful poem. You're the best, Jerry. You're the best. So, me and Big Cat need to have some discussions offline. Yeah. So, put a pin in it. We'll circle back.

you've given us a lot to think about. Yeah. And I, you know, I'll, I'll say this, uh, no matter which way we go in terms of the fantasy team, uh, I hope you feel the same way that we've enjoyed our time together. Uh,

and I look back at it and think of nothing but positives tell me to grab my playbook and go see coach no no no no no but I just want you to know that there's no hard feelings when it comes to fantasy football um I gotta thank my friends Richard and Ryan who helped me write that poem they're huge AWLs Sony exec don't don't say word to word shout out Richard and Ryan we're big fans I love you guys whatever you guys decide to do I'll be okay with um

You know, maybe BFFs has a fantasy team that they want me to... Yeah. Not win a championship with. We're results. We're results. I love you, Jerry. You're the best. Third place. Come on.

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This is the last episode you'll be listening to with us in our 30s. Yeah. It's basically been, this show has been basically the entire decade of our 30s. I've been worried about turning 40 since I turned 30. And then I was so worried when I turned 39 that I feel like now I'm not. I'm already there. I definitely like starting to feel it just like physically. I think I have plantar fasciitis, which sucks. Didn't even know.

My heel just hurts. This is all self-diagnosed. I'm not going to see a doctor. Uh, I think I'm just going to get a shitload more tattoos. Yeah. I think that's just kind of, I'm going to deal with this. I'm not going to, I don't really have any other outs. I was actually getting a little sentimental last night cause I realized I'm no new a little bit longer, but I met PFT for a birthday party for his 30th birthday. Yeah. For 10 years. Yeah. On the dot. Yeah. That is crazy. Pounded mad dogs. Now we're drinking Malort. We've said it on the show before. Uh,

I have. I know I have. And obviously, I'm 30 now. But I do remember Big Cat was going crazy hard for his 30th birthday. And I was like, damn, he's 30. He's still got it. He's old. Don't got it anymore. And now I'm older than that. Yeah. Also very funny because the first time Dave and PFT met, I think my words... I think I said I was like, this is PFT. He's super talented. Like...

he does the misspellings and, and like, he's joking how you do misspellings and stuff, but you're serious. He's joking. And Dave was just like, what? I don't get it. We got to do it for 50 now too. What do you mean? Well, I'm saying now it's like 10, every 10 years. Wait, but what are we doing for 40?

Case race. Oh, yeah. Case race. Shit. I've been I've been taking this right before the case. I've been hung over for the case race since Monday. Oh, me too. Anxiety going into it. I get real bad anxiety when I'm hung over. Very, very bad. Yeah. Tripling now. I used to be able to. Yeah. Until I was 34. Wake up the next day. Feel OK. Now it's like I have that hangover anxiety, but I had it.

on Monday for getting drunk on Tuesday night. I'm just happy the whole squad's in it. So Max, Hank, PFT, myself, you can watch the Yak case race on Friday. It'll be out, but we're taping it after we do this. And yeah, I'm miserable already about just thinking about it. Although I did find out

I have a steam shower. I've been living in my house for a year and a half. Just figured this out. That's pretty cool. Pretty cool. So I'm going to steam it up tomorrow morning. I'm going to hit the sauna. Yeah. It's going to be great. I press the buttons. It's like, does this do anything? And then steam just started coming out of my shower. I got a question for you guys. This is the richest shit ever. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I have this sick feature in my house that I didn't even know about. I didn't know for a year and a half.

I got a glory hole in my shower. I got a worse one when I moved into my house. My wife was like, do you like our house? Any complaints? I wish there was another bathroom on the first floor. She's like, two's not enough? And I was like, where's the second? She's like, you idiot. When I moved in, I was like, yeah, what's this hole in my wall in the shower for? I just found out last week.

You can come through. It's pretty good. I got a question for the young kids, young kids on the show. So the booth, not you, Hank. You're old. What is over the hill? Is over the hill 40 or is it 50? Or is it 30 now that the internet, like everybody online is under the age of 20? I thought I was about to go over the hill. 30 was energy shift. 30...

was like, I'm old now. It's impossible to even go through the motions as I did because I've been going through what feels like the same motions since I was 18, 19. Once you hit 30, it's like I should be doing something else. I'm over the hill. Yeah. But I remember when I was growing up, I think 40 was over the hill. And then I thought 50 might have been over the hill.

But I think now 40, at least, maybe 30. I think, because I've thought about this way too much, and it's probably bad. You having kids changes things, though. Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. I'm actually providing, and I have three things that are going to be my future. So it definitely changes my perspective. But I've been thinking about it because I obviously get in my own head where I'm like,

You know, someday people are just going to stop listening to us, but I love doing the show. I want to do it forever. I think what I've come to grips with is PFT. You can follow me here. I think for the next, I think we still got it for about four or five years. Then I think it's going to be a tough couple years where people just shit on us. And then I think in our late forties, we're going to get funny again by saying stupid shit and forgetting it. And people like, but man, man,

They're so funny because they're so old and dumb. We're a speed run to Lee Corso. Yeah, right, right. I think that will be our late 40s. And also, I get in my own head.

like we obviously have listeners of all ages and i appreciate all of them but it is crazy to think about like we've been doing this for so long like people have just gotten older with us i think one thing that we forget sometimes is when we started doing the show it wasn't just uh people that were younger than us that listen yeah right there's a lot of people that are older but they also all like if you were 25 when you started listening to this you're 34 now yeah i mean like that's that's a little comforting like people have grown up with

I just like the idea of a 70-year-old out there when we turn 45 listening and be like, these guys are so out of touch. Yeah. I still feel young. I just, 40 is definitely, it's more the fact that I don't think I'm going to live much past 70, 75. So I'm past halfway. That's, I guess, what over the hill means. That's what's fucking me up. That's what's fucking me up. Yeah. Where it's like, I do the math and I'm like, oh, I'm on the 11th hole.

Can somebody that's where that's where I'm getting a little fucked up. Can someone explain to me, give me something to look for? What sort, what are some things that you get better at after you turn 40? I think, I think the number one thing is giving less of a fuck. That's the number one thing with age that is so much better where it's like, I don't trust him better, but it's like, I don't care. I got kids. I got a good, a good life. I don't give a fuck playing bingo. Okay. That's a good one. Thanks, Max.

Wait, what did you say, memes? Don't you guys have to get your finger up your ass now? Memes actually is rooting for us to die. It's crazy. No. He is. I think that, yeah, the prostate check. I think they got technology now where they can just do like a laser. Just take a laser up your ass? No, I think they just shoot a laser at your body and they're like, you're good or you're bad. I'm old school.

That the nine is worse than the actual, like turning 29, turning 39. That's what I'm saying. Then the actual, well, if it's anything like turning 30, turning 30, I was scared about. And then as soon as I was 30 or 31, I was like, I'm young again.

Because everyone is in their late 30s and I'm in my early 30s. Since I've turned 29, I've just been like, oh, I'm 30. Yeah. But once I was 28, I was like, oh, yeah, I'm in my 20s. But then once you turn 29, it's like, oh, yeah, I'm in my 30s. And then once you actually turn 30, it's like, oh, yeah, I've been in this mindset for a year. Yep. It hits and you're like, it's exactly the same. But yeah, I think it's going to suck for like a week. And then we're like, you know what? Fuck it. And also you can...

You can just be like, I can't go out. I'm not going out tonight. I'm not getting drunk. I'm 40. I'm old. Yeah. I still feel like I'm... We're going to need a young buck. I was thinking maybe... I know I said 16 or 17 on Sunday's show. I'm thinking more like 13. Adopt a child. Let's break some laws. Let's adopt a child for the podcast. I want some 13-year-old takes. All right.

Is being a football fan better when you get older or was it better when you were younger? Obviously, you have gambling now, but you had so much time to potentially win a Super Bowl as a kid. Is the year team winning a Super Bowl window the male equivalent of a woman going through menopause or her eggs drying up? Help me out here. I just turned 27. 27 is the perfect age, by the way. Yeah, I think we talked about this once before. 27 is the best age. If you're a kid, if you're like 10 years old, winning titles, it's like that's the center. That's all you care about. Like Hank, you were saying that when you were a kid, all you cared about was baseball.

Right. That's got to be sweet. If you're a kid, if you're like in your 20s, you can party, you can celebrate, you can like quit your job, essentially, if your team wins a Super Bowl, because you're like, I'd kind of like to just get drunk for a month and celebrate in your 30s. I don't think it would be as fun. I think the kids thing then comes back in. Yeah. Where like if you can if you have kids and you can share it with them, that's cool, too. Someone who won a dynasty as a kid.

and a dynasty as an adult, I would, I would, I would have to say the adult one was, you were on Joe Missoula's duck boat. Yeah. Well, now I'm talking strictly dynasty. Yeah, I know that was pretty cool. You've got two diners. You're in different dynasty areas. When I was 12 and all I cared about was baseball, the Red Sox had the greatest comeback in history. You got to win a Super Bowl this year. It's tough. It's a tough question. I,

I also think that if you're like 95, then it becomes great again. Well, because it might be like a news story on you. Yeah, and then you cry. Yeah. Max, you've got to win a Super Bowl this year. High school senior, end of senior year, Bruins won a Stanley Cup. Unforgettable. Love the Bruins. Max, what's going to change about you if you win a Super Bowl this year? You're not winning a Super Bowl.

I'll be a winner. Yeah, like we won't be able to make fun of you the same way. I know. It'll be great. It'll be awesome. It'll be the best. But it's not going to happen. God. It's just the same. I just want to flash forward to Sunday. If I get another, I can't get another second place. Are you going to let Hank just dump on you like this? He's a Birds fan. Hank's got a future on the Birds. He's a Birds guy. It's a donation.

It was a one and a half point spread. That's what I just keep telling myself. Then cash out, Hank. It's a one and a half point spread. Cash out and pet the Chiefs. No, fuck that. Okay. I want the birds, but I just know. Like, I just know. Max, I know you've daydreamed about what's going to happen after the Super Bowl if you win and how happy you're going to be. Have you thought about the place you would be at if you lose? Yeah, I'm very familiar with that place. That's the thing. It's not like it's going to be some...

something that i can't imagine i'm there i'm there like every 18 months so yes i i have thought about it and i know exactly what it's going to feel like and it's not going to be good okay

Why is it that as I get older and get into my first real job working around adults, they care more about what I do with my outside life than when I was in college? Yeah. I thought as you get older, people care less about drama and petty things, but it's the total opposite. No, it's vicarious. Well, yeah, the less you go out and have a social life, then you just spend your time talking about other people.

Yeah. And they also get to lie about what they used to do when they were younger. So they hear you be like, oh, yeah, I went out and I partied on Friday night. They're like, yeah, I used to start Friday night and Sunday night, sometimes some beers Monday morning going into work. They like to just exaggerate how much action they had when they were younger.

Stanford Steven Russell had a very funny conversation about this, about how they would like go for the show when they were doing with SVP and SVP would always like go back to the hotel and they would go out and then SVP the next day would just be like, tell me everything that happened.

And I remember listening to that and being like, oh man. And I'm that guy. I'm the go to the hotel and then just be like, give me all the details. You don't really care though. No, I don't care as much. Like you're not, you're not nosy or like. No, I just want to go to bed. Yeah. More than anything. You're not gossipy. No, because it's like, I also can't keep track of anything. I always find out the gossip in the office. Absolutely the last person, like the last person. I'm pretty sure the cleaning ladies find out the gossip before me.

At what age did you realize that you couldn't physically do the things you could do in your athletic prime? Because it feels like every time I throw a ball of any kind, I'm on the verge of throwing my arm out. I'm approaching my athletic prime. Are you? Yeah. I thought your athletic prime was like 27. Maybe yours. I don't think it's like... There's nothing... I mean, obviously, there's a lot of shit I can't do. When I do throw, yeah, that's definitely one where it's like if you throw...

Like, we had a mound out there for opening day last year, and I threw as hard as I could, like, four times, and I thought my arm was going to fall off. I think for me it's more I notice it when we play pickup hoops on Friday, and I just stand at the three-point line. I'm just like, I don't really want to go down low and get elbowed and bang around. That's a big one. I think this is more frontal lobe or whatever it's called, but the skiing for me, like, I used to like skiing, but I –

When I was a kid and younger and young adult, I had a very I have a very reckless ski style where I just bomb down the hill. Not a great stopper. And it was always like, just go straight and eventually you'll get a you know, you'll slow down. But speed was never a concern. Now, when I even think about skiing, I'm like, oh, like, I don't I don't want to do that. Yeah, but I know how I ski and how I've like always skied. Yeah, it's like you can't you can't be scared if you're going to do it like here's the big one.

The big part of getting old I've noticed for athletic stuff is you're just way more conscious of getting injured. Yeah. And you're scared. Yeah, that's what you're explaining right now. Like, I am so scared of getting injured because an injury at 40 versus an injury at 25 is so vastly different. Yeah, so it's at this age you collect injuries.

So if you get injured, that's going to be something that you deal with for pretty much the rest of your life. Yeah. Where you break a leg and you're like, well, now my leg is never going to work the same ever. Whereas if you get injured when you're 25, yeah, give me a month. I'll be back. I still hold out hope that someday I'm just going to, when I'm not working as much, maybe start doing yoga and just get really flexible. Yoga is fucking impossible. Yeah. I want to go to that stretch lab place. Yeah. Yeah. Wait. Where they just stretch you? Yeah. Yeah.

My real answer to that question though was when I first had my back injury. Yeah. When your back hurts for the first time. That's when you know way past your athletic prime. Kidney stones too. Yeah, kidney stones is a big one. Kidney stones is an old guy thing. Yeah. Yeah.

When I was doing the kicking thing at the Barstool Bowl and all I had to do was make a 35-yard field goal and I was training for it, I was kicking like 36 yards. And two years ago, I was kicking 45 yards. At that point, I was like, it's never coming back. Also, I'll say it, just standing up for a really long time is just like I want to sit. I took 40,000 steps during the dart stream. That was the one thing I didn't mention. Wow. Thanks for mentioning it. Beast. Mm-hmm.

Also almost threw my arm out. So I guess that's a sign too. Maybe athletic peak not. What about the comments from the people calling you a pussy for saying that your arm hurt after throwing darts for 10 hours? Throw darts for 10 hours, tell me how your arm feels, and then if you still feel like I'm a pussy, I will accept it. Until then, fuck off. I'm going to defend the chat in this case just that every time I watch someone else do something hard, I'm like, that's so easy.

Yeah. Your brain just says that. Like, someone does, like, an eating challenge, and I'm like, I could fucking do that. And when you're sitting and watching, like, if you sit and watch someone for two hours, you do nothing. But if you're standing and doing something for two hours, like, it takes a toll. Like, you get tired. When Jerry did his first hole in one stream, I was like, how is he so sore? Swing a club 2,000 times and find out. But in your head, you're just like, this looks so easy.

Looks like he wants a career. Yeah. Get ready, buddy, because the hangovers are going to get way worse. Should have hit us up five years ago before you entered college. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I think that's a very personal question depending on who you are. Like how will you know when your job is the one that you want? I think if you just, if you enjoy it, if you truly like it,

If you like thinking about it when you're not working there, that's probably a pretty good sign. Yeah, my only advice for someone like that is you have more time to figure it out than you think because I think there's a lot of pressure always when you graduate college, especially because there's going to be a couple of your friends that go right into some high-paying job or crushing it, and you're like, fuck, I'm behind.

You can switch jobs and try something new and do different things. You have time to fuck up. Not like fuck up, fuck up, but you have time to do something for a couple years and be like, you know what, this isn't for me. Yeah, you might have to take a step back, but that's where the time comes in. Taking a step back when you're in your 20s

is not as hard as taking a step back when you're in your 30s or 40s and you have kids and a family and a house and all that shit. Yeah, don't think because you're 25 years old that you have to be on the path for the rest of your life. Pretty much you don't have to figure it out until you have kids. Because then you have to think about them more than you think about yourself. Yeah. Would Robert De Niro say he never gets so attached to something that you can't walk away from in 30 seconds or less? That's how you should feel about your job until you're like 27. Yeah. And Robert De Niro, look at him. He's still having kids. Yeah. And she had a great ass!

Okay. Why is it so far away? From the stream yesterday. Ah, okay. I got it. No, no, I got it. He can still do this, Hank. I got it. Yeah, you're trying to fucking get me out. That was an old man move. Yeah, let me get that for you, sir. All right. Numbers. Three. Eleven. Ninety-nine. Forty. Ninety-two. What did you guess last time, Memes? Three. No, no. You guessed something else. No, I guessed three. Was it eleven? Who guessed eleven? I always guess eleven.

59 for the Super Bowl. 44. Take your time. 54. Fuck that. Love you guys. Was that the Super Bowl you won, Max? No. What was that? The Patriots won 54. Oh. Love you guys.