Matthew Stafford, Steph Curry Saves America, Getting Excited About Preseason Football + Mt Rushmore of Steroid Users (Alleged)
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On today's part of my take, we have Super Bowl winning quarterback, future Hall of Famer, Hank, please stop doing what you're doing. Matthew Stafford on the show. He's so loopy right now. He was just, he was mouthing. Hank might just be loopy. He was mouthing what I was saying back to me. He's doing part of my take karaoke. Yeah. Uh,

Matthew Stafford on the show. Great interview. We have a violently hungover Hank. No. Should be interesting. We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of steroid users, alleged, just so that we don't get any legal problems. Yeah, but just Mount Rushmore of steroids. Yeah, it's Mount Rushmore of steroid users. We're going to talk some Olympics. We're going to talk some football. We've got who's back of the week.

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And I know we want to talk about football, but we also have to talk about the Olympics and our team being so awesome and that game being incredible. But for the record, I want to talk about football. I do too. But yeah, let's lead it off with the... I was thinking about it. Should we lead it off with the fact that we both have future Hall of Fame quarterbacks? No, let's temper our excitement for a second, which we will get to that. And I said the two of us because there was only one guy who seemingly didn't play great.

Well, I would say all three of us have future Hall of Fame quarterbacks if you include Joe Milton. That's true. But we should talk about the Olympics and that USA game because it was fucking awesome. Steph Curry is the man. He saved America. That was one of the most fun times I've had watching basketball. And...

Steph Curry comes in and he was lights out for the last two games. He was 17 for 26 from 360 points in the last two games. And those, it was a three point game with two 58 left. And Steph was like, fuck it. I'm just going to hit every shot. And he had four threes. And it was, I, I yelped.

on that last one. - Yeah, people were screaming. It was insane. And if you listen to the French broadcast of it, I don't know if you've had a chance to go back and I always love to do that in college football season where you hear like the home announcing team, like narrate a heartbreaking loss.

The French guys were just like, this is impossible. What's happening? They kept calling him the Devil Curry. Yes. The Devil Curry just ended their dreams. And there were two shots that he put up that if it's anybody else on the planet, you're like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. At one point, he passed out of a double team to Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant was relatively open as far as KD goes.

goes and he just said fuck it i'm gonna throw it back to steph curry because steph can't miss right now shoots it over two guys kevin durant and he said it was a bad shot too well kevin durant and lebron were wide open for the three yeah and under no circumstance do you ever not give the ball to kevin durant or lebron at the end of a game unless your name is steph curry and it somehow it went in but it is just so much fucking fun to get to root for steph curry it

I get it. I understand why Warriors fans have been complete pricks to everybody else for the last 10 years. I get it. I understand it. Steph Curry, if I got to root for Steph Curry every day, I would develop the same superiority complex that Hank Lockwood has had from rooting for Tom Brady. It was so good.

And so incredible. Steph Curry impressed himself. He said that. He said afterwards, before every shot you take, you think it's going in. All I saw was, this is talking about the last shot, all I saw was the rim. I didn't see who was in front of me. I knew it was kind of late clock situation, but that one impressed myself. Yeah. That's how good he is. Steph Curry's so good that he impresses Steph Curry. Yeah, they were really good. And you know what I loved about these Olympics? The fact that the players cared.

Yeah. They cared very deeply about it. Oh, dude. They cared. Like, if any one of them told you, like, oh, you know, I just wanted to go over there and have fun. Didn't matter if I played. Didn't matter if they got me in the game. Didn't matter if I was in the rotation. They're lying. They wanted to be in there. They wanted to be playing. They wanted to do this. I

I guess for the country, which is awesome to see because in Olympics past, some of the guys were just like, yeah, whatever. It's basically an exhibition. We're going to crush the world. The days of just showing up and destroying the rest of the world are over. We have to actually put in work, put in practice and play as a team if we want to win. So to get a gold in that way was it was awesome. It was awesome. They care. Even their family cares. Yeah. To the point of like complaining publicly. Yeah.

They care a lot. And they flew in Draymond, which is the right move to do. Draymond flew in just to troll Gobert. He tweeted, he's like, what should I say? I'm sitting right behind him. But it also felt like the finale of an era in the NBA because it was KD, it was LeBron, it was Steph. Those were the three guys. Devin Booker was phenomenal, by the way. He was the unsung hero. He completely changed his role to fit into this team and was so, so good. And

The three guys who have meant so much to basketball for the last two decades finishing it this way because all three of them are at the tail end of their career and maybe not going to win another NBA title, but it was just awesome to watch. LeBron was amazing, and KD was amazing, and Steph was just going off. Anthony Davis finished the game because I can't remember who our other center was, but it was good that Anthony Davis was in there. I think he had four block.

The starting center, he had trouble defending against Wimby, who everybody else also has that problem defending against Wimby. The starting center looked slow. He looked like he was a step late to every loose ball. He looked like he was out of shape a little bit. Who was our starting center? I'm not sure. Bam, right? Bam. No, no, it wasn't Bam.

Joel Embiid. Oh, thank you, Uwe. Joel Embiid. Yeah. I got the pleasure of watching this game with Max and his brothers, and it was just them screaming at the TV the entire time. Come on, Joe. What the fuck, Joe? I knew it was not going well for Embiid when Max tweeted halfway through the game. He's like, everyone's shitting on Joel. We wouldn't be here without him.

True. Yeah. He wanted to go back in time to the Serbia game. I also love the way that Joel Embiid received his gold medal when the crowd was just booing the shit out of him because he chose to go with the US instead of France. And he was just like, yeah, give it to me. I mean, he's a Philly guy. Yeah. You think that bothers him? France cannot out boo Joel Embiid. Yeah. He had a quote going into it. He was like, yeah, France is probably going to boo me and I'm just going to tell him to suck it. Yeah.

Yeah. Also very hidden with the DS. Like he, there's, there's one guy who can't like, you can't boo, you can't boo Joel and beat out of the building. He plays in Philadelphia. He also, uh, watching the, like the clips of everyone post game. And then the next day, just how hung over, uh,

They all were. Actually, we have someone who basically won the U.S. gold right here, Henry Lockwood. Looked like he partied with him. But Joel Embiid doesn't drink. So he was just side-eyeing everyone walking to, I think they were getting to the airport. And it was just like everyone had glasses on, looked like shit, and Joel was just like, I'm ready to go. Let's get on the flight. Maybe he needs to start drinking. Maybe that's the problem.

Get out of his own head. It was awesome. And now there was two guys who maybe didn't play a lot. Tyrese Halliburton, who handled it in a very funny way, saying when you get an A and you did none of the work. That's kind of the way you have to handle it because you're still one of the best 12 players to be on that team. And you did...

contribute in the fact that you know there are scrimmages and all the the weeks leading up to it you got to take pride in that shit like you got to take pride no matter what level basketball player you're at if you help the team that's first and foremost right and then hank yep how do we feel i mean jason tatum did get into the uh final felt like he got bullied bullied minutes

He got bullied? He got bullied minutes. Kerr got bullied into putting him in the game. Interesting. Do you not agree? I mean, his explanation for Serbia made no sense when he said it's a math problem. Well, there's eight less minutes.

Right, but you could still... Are you talking metric system? The math. That's what Steve Kerr was saying. But there's eight less minutes in an NBA game. Listen, the resume, no one really knows who does well or who does poorly in the Olympics. At the end of the day, when you look back at his career, he's going to have two gold medals, at least. Yeah. Yeah, he said he would play in the 22... I mean, I do feel bad for Jason Tatum because I'll say this in defense of Jason Tatum. He did not say one word. No. His mom did...

Fans did. That's one of those situations where it gets put on him that he's upset. And he probably was upset because everyone wants to play. But he wasn't upset. He wasn't being a malcontent. He wasn't saying anything. Other people were saying things. And then it gets attributed to him, which is not fair. But if you watch the games, the lineup that did not have Jason Tatum in it was vastly superior. We were dominating with that lineup. They were really fucking good. And he barely played.

Our closing lineup was very good. Yeah. Anthony Davis was phenomenal at the end. And it was just fun. It was fun to watch. Steph Curry's the fucking man. Yabu dunked on LeBron. That was great. Yabu did. He might have dunked his way back in the league. And Skip obviously went straight to Twitter and was like... Well, Steph Curry won the MVP, right? Yeah. LeBron did win the MVP. And yeah, Skip was like, this is an indictment on LeBron's legacy.

Just perfect spin zone. That he won a fake MVP at the Olympics where they won gold? Yeah, and LeBron was... I mean, he got a triple-double against Serbia, and he was good in every game. Steph basically locked in for the last two games. He closed it out at the end of the last two games, and we wouldn't have had that comeback against Serbia without him. And we probably wouldn't have beaten France without him just catching fire at the very end. But if you look at what the numbers were, LeBron...

He did not lead the team in points per game. Steph did, but it was like barely. He led the team in rebounds and assists. Rebounds and assists. Yeah. And almost led the team in points per game. You could give it to any one of those guys, but I love the fact that Skip, he's going to find his angle. Yeah. Skip Bayless, by the way, doesn't have a show to do his LeBron thing on. He's just doing this for the love of the game. Yeah, and it would have been if Steph had gotten the MVP, it would have been the same video being like LeBron didn't get the MVP and this was his team, his Olympics. Also, shout out Serbia. Yeah.

probably the coolest dudes in the world. They won the bronze medal game, went straight to the bar and then came back for the medal ceremony. And they were shit housed. I love like Jokic looked like he was going to puke at one point. Cause guys were like, kind of like grabbing him. And then also there's a club. Jokic is already at the racetrack. Yeah, of course.

So probably spent his entire Olympics watching dressage. That's why he probably didn't practice with the team that much. That looked like they did it perfectly for. I would much rather. This is why the debate like, would you rather win bronze or silver? I'd rather win bronze because then you don't have to live like the rest of your life saying I was so close. I would like to win bronze if I lost to the gold medal winner. Yeah, but still like they had the best time yesterday. France didn't.

France looked, you know, in front of the home crowd. They lose. And then all the Serbians show up drunk as fuck. There's also the stat continues that there's only three countries that have won a gold medal outside of U.S. in men's basketball. And two of those three countries do not exist.

So kind of a fun stat. What countries were they? Argentina? Was that the one that does exist? Argentina does exist. And then Soviet Union, Yugoslavia. Okay, yeah. If Yugoslavia had stayed a country, they'd be a problem. They'd be a real problem. Because they would have Jokic and Luka. They should be allowed to compete. It would be fun. Yeah. So the only country that still exists that has won a gold other than the U.S. is Argentina. And Soviet Union would have KP. Yeah.

Yeah, true. Yeah. Yeah. There was no rush in these Olympics, right? For the most part. I guess not. Yeah. And we won this Asterix. We won the gold or we won the Olympics. We did. Yeah. Congratulations. We did it. We did it. We tied with Chicago.

China for most golds and then the tiebreaker, which I think is made up by us. Is it silvers? It's silvers and bronzes. Oh, we won together. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we did it guys. Also, we were very close to not winning the total golds and I just wanted to shout out. I don't know who this person is. Iman Keyleth.

that person stopped China from getting one extra goal. Because if Iman came... Now, what division were they competing in? This was women's boxing. Women's boxing. Okay. Shout out to her. Yeah. So she stopped...

She beat a Chinese woman in the welterweight championship. She's my favorite woman in the world. That's a funny wrinkle. Let's go USA. USA. All of the United States was rooting for whoever that boxer that you said. Yes. So that's all getting behind. It's really good that we, that we won the medal count. I love that. I love just being able to say like, fuck you to the rest of the world. We still got it. I don't care. Well, what about the horses?

Do we know where the horses were from? No, I don't know. I don't know if you have to bring in the horses from the same place. Because I feel like the horses should get the medals. The riders should not get the medals at the equestrian events. Yeah. We did have an awesome... I forget her name. Shit, what's her name? The female wrestler that suplexed the fuck out of her opponent in the finals and just dropped on her head, basically broke her neck.

in the finals. They had to stop. For US? Yeah, it was an awesome move. I forget who it was. Hell yeah. But shout out to her because she's a fucking hoss. Also, if we're going to try to figure out how to make sure that we win the golds outright at LA. Well, first of all, I didn't even realize that you get to, the host country gets to add a sport. Yep. That's how breakdancing came in. Shout out to Raygun. Yeah, Raygun. The goat. Took the world by storm. We watched some of the breaking on Friday here in the office. I was trying to live bet on it.

I had no idea how the point system worked, but Ray Gunn, she's a hero. She's amazing. She was doing the kangaroo hop. She was doing moves like an eighth grader would do at a talent show. Yeah, the rest of the break dancers have to be very upset at her because I watched some of the others and they were incredible. Yeah. Like spinning on their heads for minutes at a time. And then Ray Gunn was just doing Elaine, you know, Venice dance. She's a professor. And one of the things that she teaches is break dancing. Yeah.

I would drop her class if I were in it. She basically found a way to get a free trip to France and get a team uniform. Yeah, credit to her. And she was wearing an Australian cricket uniform. She was wearing the green pants, a green polo shirt, the green hat. It was awesome. I was struggling to figure out what the rules were with breaking. I didn't know if there was a TKO. If you serve somebody so hard, they just stop the fight. That's too much. That's too much. Someone's going to get hurt. Like battle rap? Battle rap should be in the LA games. Roan being an Olympian.

Would be sick. I think it might be more of a sport than some of the sports that we saw. Yeah. Definitely more of a sport than curling. I think we're... Are we adding football? Is that what it is being... Like football, baseball. Oh, is baseball our sport? Baseball should be back anyways. We might not win that. We might not win that. We...

We should win football, but remember our team stinks. No, but we're going to have NFL players. Joe Burrow. Yeah, yeah. He said he wants to do it. Yeah. I was looking at it. If we want to figure out a way to win it outright, China. Now, I'm not saying that it's a Mickey Mouse gold half of a title, whatever you want to call it.

They won five ping pong events and eight diving events. Seems a little. How are there five ping pong events? I have no idea, but they won them all. Because there should be at the max. There should be four, right? I think there's women's men's doubles. Women's doubles. Mixed doubles. Mixed doubles. They swept it. They swept the board. I don't like that. I didn't know there was eight divings.

That's too many diving. Swept the board on that. Yeah, there's too many of the niche ones. There should be maximum four medals in table tennis. Now, maybe we got to sweeten the pot a little bit because we're giving each gold medalist $37,000. That's what the U.S. gives.

And a job at Home Depot. Other countries, no, we don't even do that anymore. Sometimes they get their picture on a Wheaties box. Congratulations, here's $37,000 and your picture on the worst cereal in the world. Enjoy. Hong Kong and Singapore, they do the highest payouts.

Hong Kong gives $768,000 to their winner. Singapore gives $745,000. And then the Philippines gives a house a lot, a two-bedroom condominium.

$18,000 worth of furniture, a lifetime supply of cookies, and free meals for life from local restaurant chains, including Korean fried chicken. They should just do the Armageddon. If you win a gold medal for US, you never pay taxes. Don't pay taxes. And also, you get to commit one felony. Sure. Get out of jail free card. Not paying taxes. Not paying taxes, but also you can transfer that up to manslaughter. Yeah. I mean, I...

caitlyn jenner would having probably still be walking amongst us having everyone be like hey i don't have to pay taxes again that would be the greatest she is still walking well at least she's not driving driving yeah driving is her issue uh indonesia in 2021 gave their gold medalist five cows each and a meatball restaurant oh max wow yeah max you need to get a passport yep we gotta step our shit up and in south korea you get pensions

So you get like the lump sum and then you get money every single year for the rest of your life. Yeah. Instead, we have Noah Lyles who's winning. He might be hater of the year. He might have to do that as a takey, hater of the year because he was the one who before the Olympics said, you don't win a world championship if you win the NBA championship. Yep. That's not the world. Everyone's like, that's kind of weird. Whatever. Hank, did you write that down? Takeys? Takeys. Got it. Hank, write it down. What was it, Hank?

Hater of the year. Who? Noah Lyles. Okay. You got it? Yeah. Why don't you write it down? Because you did say that this year you're going to be on top of it. Max said he was going to be on top of it. Did I? Absolutely not me. No, no, no. So are you giving away? I can be on top of it. I can take this responsibility. You're going to take the lead, Max? You already did. All right.

Are you going to back him up? This could be on me. Hank, are you going to back him up? I told Max to write it down, and then Max, for some reason, turned his mic on to tell Hank. But me and him are in charge. Hank's playing hurt right now. I support Max. No, that's on me. That's on me. Will you be the backup? Yeah. Okay. Well, he'll be the third. Tell Max to write that down.

Yeah. Yeah. I'll write that down. I'll write that down. I feel like Hank could show some strong competition hater of the year. So yeah, for sure. It's an award that I guarantee you he'll, he will be nominated. Yeah. But no, Lyle's came out that he was upset because Adidas, when he was negotiating with Adidas for his new contract, they invited him to an Anthony Edwards event. Yeah. And he was like, this guy hasn't even been to an NBA finals. So,

I actually, I understand. Noah Lyles is basically like, I need to get my name out there. So be hater of the year and people will talk about me. I think he knows what he's doing. And I want to have his side in the fact that he can't be that dumb that he thinks that like running track every four years is important as playing in the NBA. He does. He does. Okay. So maybe he's that. This is what I love about Noah Lyles. I think it all comes naturally to him. Okay. He definitely got cut playing basketball, right? Yeah.

Like he's got some very deep seated anger for any ball sport. Yeah. And he's like, why, why is track not the number one sport in America? He was like a point guard that didn't have any handles whatsoever. And every time he was on a fast break, he'd dribble it off his foot. Yeah. No Lyle's a little tip for you. Why don't you just say that you're going to try out for an NFL team that would get you some nice publicity. People would talk about it. People be like, wow, could you imagine no Lyle's running down, running, running a go route. Now you probably can't catch because you're this upset about,

Anthony Edwards, who's one of the best NBA players. But we'll deal with that later. Yeah, he would be sick on the Chiefs. Flag football. Flag football.

He probably, there's no, Noel Lyles definitely, if you threw him a ball, he would not be able to catch it. No. That's the vibe I'm getting from his anger towards the NBA. I felt like he excelled at puzzles from a young age. Yeah. Yeah. And he also overcame COVID to get the hater going. I like that. It was just better. And then he was just like, now I got my hater back. I am a little bit concerned about the state of one sport in America. Okay. Swimming.

Yeah. Male swimming in America. Oh yeah. The French guy kicked her. French guy kicked her ass. Katie Ledecky. Shout out to her. I think she's like tied for the lead in gold medals. Shout out all our women. Yeah. I think they dominated. They dominated our men. Our men stink at swimming. What happened? What happened to American men? Is it fellas? Is it gay to swim? Phelps might need to make a comeback. Is it actually think you could, I think he'd probably do better than whatever these jackasses were. Yeah. But we only got one gold medal in male swimming. Uh,

I don't know. I don't know what the problem is. I know, Huey, you can definitely swim, right? Probably. No, probably. Wasn't Caleb Dressel, the big story was that he was watching House of Dragons too late one night? Yeah. So maybe we just got to take away TVs? Yeah. If we put our best players, our best athletes into swimming, we would dominate. And we don't.

We don't. Listen, Olympics were fun. Can't say I watched a ton of it, but I watched it here and there. Yeah, it was good. It was good to have on in these desperate weeks that we just need to get through training camp. And the basketball was awesome. Basketball, the fact that the world has caught up and it makes it very exciting and there's drama involved in it, that was a dramatic game. Yeah. And I'm happy we won. I would like to see an Olympics where they just select the athletes at random.

Like anybody from the United States could get put on any team. Yeah. And we'd have to compete just average people from around the world competing against other average people in random sports that they've never practiced. Well, they should have one average person in every single event just so that we have a barometer. To show how hard you're doing. Like if you're just like, hey, here's the 100-meter dash.

have just a random 35-year-old dude running it. And we can be like, oh, that's me. I suck. I lost by seven seconds. I think one of the funniest events for that would be the high jump where you have to try to jump over it backwards. Because I think most people, if you tried to do that motion, you would just land directly on your head and you wouldn't even get above the mat.

Yeah, pole vault. You just go straight sideways. I mean, all these. Yeah, they should absolutely have just a base person just competing in all these events just so that we can see it because we would quickly realize how much better they are. Not that we don't, but there's always a little bit of you where it's like, that doesn't seem that hard. They all are very hard. There should be eating in the Olympics too. Yeah, Joey Chestnut. Joey, we should put that in for 2028. That would have rocked. Hot dog eating. That would have rocked.

You want to talk about football? Yeah. That was a fun weekend of football. It was a great week. It's back. It's preseason.

I lasted as long as I lasted longer than I ever could ever. Oh, I didn't even try. Yeah, I tried an hour and a half. I lasted. I didn't try. I saw all. People are impressed. Yeah. So big cat, congratulations. Congratulations to you as well. How many, uh, how many Superbowls do you think you're going to get? Listen, I don't want to talk about Superbowls. I just want to talk about, uh, the, the, the realization that I had and, and this is going to get clipped and people are going to say I'm stupid and I'm doing it all over again. Um,

Watching Caleb Williams play quarterback made me feel like the dumbest person in the entire world forever thinking that Mitch Trubisky and Justin Fields were the guys because it looks so different. Yeah. And I know it's preseason. I know it was only a few plays, but it just looks different. Like he's confident, poised, like reading the defense, like

It just looks different. I felt like such an idiot. And yeah, I lasted an hour and a half, and then I told the whole world to suck my dick from the back. Yeah, as you should. Because my own experience watching Jaden on Saturday... That one throw he had was so sick. And then when I found out that he audibled into that play, oh my God, I covered my entire basement. I got stalactites dripping from the ceiling now. Gross. I've never...

I don't want to say never. He reminds me of RG3 and the RG3 good times. It's been 30 years since I've had a quarterback that for longer than like 10 weeks, I could really root for and really think this is the guy and know this is the guy. But Big Cat, he's so fucking good. I know. I agree. I agree. His football is so good. He's so fast. I agree. And he looks good in the uniform. It's awesome. I mean, you said RG3. I agree.

The screen dump off that Caleb Williams made when a guy had his hand in his face and it was like a broken play. Yeah. That looked like Patrick Williams. Yeah. We got... I don't... But I'm not... These are just...

We should have prefaced this segment with, this is a safe space. We're just talking to guys having fun talking. None of this is, we're not putting this on anyone. This is not what we're saying is going to happen. We're just saying what we saw. Yeah. And we're in a preseason game. What I saw sickos, what I saw in preseason week one, preseason week, one week, one, uh,

It was week two for the Bears, but Caleb Williams didn't play week one. The excitement of having a team that has a quarterback, it's like we're fans of different sport this year. It's like Sundays are going to be different. Deep. Sundays are different this year. Like...

Being like third and long, we could maybe still get this. Yeah. Hank, did you feel the same way? About Joe Milton? Yeah. Actually, I made a list. I made a ranking. Should we do rankings of rookie quarterbacks? Sure. Number one, I had Joe Milton. Yep. Because Joe Milton is fucking awesome. You had the boys fired up. Yeah. I also wouldn't have been watching. It was on what we were doing, Coach Doug, so I pretty much watched the whole thing.

And you could tell, you know, coming off the sidelines, like the team team was rallying already. QB controversy was rallying behind him. We'll see. I think so. And we are in phase one of the Joe Milton experience. Would this be this would be so mean, though, if Joe Milton did to Bailey Zappi what Bailey Zappi did to Matt Jones?

Yeah, they're going to have a decision to make. Four QBs, three spots. Yeah. This segment is also... Milton tough. We're pretending to be guys that have never watched Joe Milton play in college at all. Yeah, no. That guy, how did that guy last until the sixth round? That guy should have been top ten. Patriots get a six-round steal. History repeats itself. Yeah. Number two, I had a tie between Caleb and Jaden. That's fair. I wanted to be fair, and Joe Milton, obviously, number one. Caleb, Jaden, number two. JJ, Arrington, number three.

J.J. Arrington? No, sorry, sorry. J.J. McCarthy? McCarthy, yeah. Viking, number three. Second defense? Second defense. Where did Arrington come from? I don't know. There's a player named J.J. Arrington. LeVar Arrington. Number four, Bo Nix. Bo Nix looked good. This might be the season. Bo Nix. Bo Nix, I feel like he's... J.J. Arrington was a running back for Cal. Yeah. Bo Nix, a lot of Heisman buzz around him this year. I think he's going to be good. Yeah. Five, Spencer Rattler.

Spencer looked good. He plays for? He plays for an NFL team. But I looked up his stats and they were good. Number six, Michael Penix. And then number seven, I had Drake May. It's a pretty good class. And Stetson Bennett. Technically a rookie, kind of. Kind of. Yeah, because he sat out. He bounced back really nicely from his fourth interception. Game-winning drive. Yeah. Yeah. Anthony Richardson, also kind of a rookie. Kind of, yeah. Yeah. It was fun watching football.

I'm very excited. I'm going to let myself. I really did. I tried so hard. PFT. I was like, I'm not going to be. I'm not going to do what I always do and just get crazy. And it was like I was basically the meme, the kid in class, like holding everything in. I was just for an hour. I was watching the Bears and I was like, I'm not going to get crazy and tweet crazy shit like this has got to be different. I got to act differently. And then I just lost it and just busted everywhere. He he looked really good.

He looked very good. So did Jaden. I'll tell you what. This is going to be the worst clip ever. I don't care. I'm ready. Make no mistake. I'm ready to be hurt again. I am. I haven't felt that way watching sports in a while. Markel Fultz was so good in Summer League. Why do you have to make this about Philadelphia? Good point. What the fuck? That's a good point. I'm just saying. What the fuck? That's a fair point. Max, I want to say I am not ready to get hurt again.

Oh, I am. I am not. I've been hurt too many times too recently. I feel like if we played the Justin Fields first preseason game, he would say the exact same thing that you just said. But I just told you, Hank. I watched Caleb Williams play. I knew Mitch wasn't the guy. I'm not ready to get hurt again. I'm not mentally, physically injured.

in a space where I could take the hurt again, it will kill me. It will kill me. This would be the last hurt of my life. Max, if you had to pick, if you had to rank between just the three of us in this room, which quarterback would you want first? Joe Milton. Good answer. He's got a rocket arm. Stud. Threw an orange 106 yards. Yeah. I was thinking about it.

I think I would want the Patriots to be the best. Why? Because I already know cocky Hank. I already know what it's like to be around Hank. Oh, it's the devil you know. It's the devil I know. I don't know how I... All right, that makes sense.

On what planet would we be worse? No, that's a fair... That's a fair... Yeah. We can't be worse than this guy. That's not true. He's drunk during a show right now because... That's also not true. But I already hate Hank. I don't want to hate you guys. You pass a breathalyzer right now? Yeah. We should get a breathalyzer. I doubt it. Uh...

I actually understand what you're saying, Max, because I don't know what I'm capable of. It's scary to think of what I could be capable of. If Caleb Williams was incredible, I might be a monster. Yeah, I mean, it would be cool if Chicago was buzzing for the Bears. That would be fun. Yeah, we would need the hopes to get up. I want both you guys to make the playoffs. You're always doing it that way. Thank you, Hank. You want us to make the playoffs. Thank you, Hank.

It was just preseason week one. It was. And we might be a year out, but Jaden. Yeah. CJ Straub was really good in the preseason last year. I think more than anything, it's just the ups and downs. I have to figure out how to deal with better.

It's the ups and downs. We haven't been here before. I'm like a drive-by-drive guy. We've both been here very recently. I need to figure out a month. You had RG3. Very recently. That was 12 years ago. You had Sam Howell. Sam Howell, he did say, was a guy. I was talking soupy after two weeks last year. That was 12 years ago, Hank, and we had maybe 13 weeks where he looked healthy. Sam Howell was so good against the Eagles in that one game. He was. It was incredible. He's had it twice since the podcast has existed.

That's why I'm not ready to get hurt again. It's becoming all too familiar. We haven't been here before. Yes, you have. No, I haven't. Not since RG3. Second pick overall. I know those sickos. Although, deep down, I feel like Packers fans might actually think they're a little

Although Jordan Love looks good. But I think they're a little worried. The RG3 croissant picture was so funny. Yeah. Very, very funny. He was always horny. He was deep throat in that thing. Yeah. Deep throating. Greta was not. Yeah. RG3, he had that past the gag reflex. She was not in on the same joke that he was doing. I don't think it was a joke. Yeah, I don't think so either. He just loves croissant. He loves croissant. Uh-huh. Okay. Do we have anything else before we do who's back of the week?

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Henry, who's back of the week? Who's back of the week is Jameis Winston. Yes. We're going to do same faces, new places. I think we'll do that Wednesday now. Soon, but Jameis on the Browns is a match made in heaven. He had a very funny pregame speech getting the boys fired up. Tell us what he said in the pregame. Reenact the pregame speech. Get us fired up.

What do you mean? Come on, do it. Get us fired up. Pretend that you're... Where my dog's at. Okay. That was good. And yeah, we're about to do a podcast. He said like, I'm going to spell D-A-W-G-S and then we'll go whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo. So you do it. Do it for us, for the podcast. Give me a D. D. Give me an A. A. Give me a W. W.

Give me a G. G. Give me an S. S. Where my dog's at? Right here. James did it better. Yeah. I wasn't as fired up as the Browns were.

If you were Deshaun Watson, you saw that. You'd be a little bit nervous, right? Of course. Jameis is the best. He's got a captive audience. Everyone hangs on every word that he says. At bare minimum, if Deshaun Watson has an MVP-type year, even with an MVP-type year, the rest of the locker room likes Jameis more. Yeah. No matter what, you have a backup quarterback that is liked more. The whole building likes Jameis more. Correct. And he doesn't have all that baggage that Deshaun has with the history. Correct.

Facts. Good who's back. Thank you. Was that the last tweet you saw? No. No. That's a good who's back, Hank. It's a great who's back. Thank you. Way to do your job. Thank you. He's back. He is. I thought your who's back was going to be elevators. No. No elevators. We did get stuck in an elevator. Oh, do tell.

We were just going down. We had too many people in the elevator. Was Max in it? Max was not in it. I was not in it. That was bullshit. That was a bullshit question. I was not in the elevator. I'm just asking questions. I got down safely. I got down safely in that elevator. Wait, so how many people did you get in the elevator? It was probably like 15. I think it's like 2,000 people.

Weight limit. We had a couple. And no max. A couple big boys, though. A couple football players, former football players, Quigs. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Quigs allowed to get fucking shots. Hank, you were in there, too. I was in there. And I was like, oh, yeah, we're good. Let's just squeeze on. And then we got to the first floor, and then you just felt it go even lower. Wait, you got down to the first floor? Got down to the first floor, and then it dropped. Oh, you sank too low. So they had to open the door. It took like 10, 15 minutes. And then we had to basically climb out.

Oh, shit. Was that a Thrician Krupp elevator? I know it wasn't an Otis. I don't know what type of elevator it was. Otis would never malfunction like that. So, Hank, answer me this. Had you been drinking alcohol before this? Yes. Okay. So I would imagine if you're stuck in an elevator with 15 people that had been drinking. Not Max. Not Max. Somebody had to go to the bathroom at some point, right? No, it wasn't. It hadn't got to that point. Everyone was pretty chilled. No one was freaking out. We were squeezed in pretty tight.

That's a nightmare. It was good vibes. I think if it went another 10 minutes, then some people might have been claustrophobic or had to pee, but it wasn't too, too bad. I'm so mad that Max wasn't on that elevator. Did you get some tunes going? I was playing some music. Yeah. What's good elevator music? Billy Strings. Yeah, you're obsessed with Billy Strings. Well, that was just what was on my Spotify being played, so I just pressed play. Kept it going. Fired it back up. We also were playing a...

Great playlist. I think you asked for it. I just looked it up on Spotify. The playlist is called just Vietnam War Music. Yeah, yeah. I was watching the planes at Hank's place, and they brought the helicopters out. I was like, we got a Blast Fortunate song. Yeah. It's a must. But it's a great playlist. I've been playing it all day. Nice. You've got a little mini Vietnam going on in your brain right now. It's a constant Vietnam in my brain. Just try to avoid landmines. No one's winning.

Yeah, a lot of resources. No one's winning. All right, that elevator's being... I've been stuck in one elevator in my life. It was brutal. It's just like...

That first five minutes, like, are we getting out? Are we never getting out? And then you realize you're probably going to be fine. Yeah. Did you call the fire department? No. I wasn't that worried about it until once we got out. I was like, oh, that was kind of bad. So what if you got caught when you were stepping up? Or, yeah, if you were stepping up and the thing came down. Yeah. That would have been bad. Yeah, we'd have been real bad. We'd have been ashamed. Real bad. Yeah.

Okay, PFT, your who's back. My who's back of the week is the Indianapolis Colts. Yeah. They just redid Lucas Oil Stadium. They did some renovations to it, some major renovations, to the point where I don't think they could open up the roof. They opened up the window, and they were trying to open the roof up, but they couldn't. I guess they've taken some things down from the stadium, and the stadium roof is not used to being open in this new configuration. One of the things they took down...

was sent to our office. It's a piece of NFL history, to say lightly. Jim Irsay specially packaged up and sent over, first of all, a very nice letter for myself and Big Cat. Normal signature. Totally cool signature. Referred to as Mr. Cat and Mr. Comets. I like that touch. And he added in a little line about sometimes it takes a real friend to tell you when you're pissing in the wind. Yep. So we opened up the package, and what's inside...

But the 2014 AFC finalist banner, the one that was hanging up in Lucas Oil Stadium. So we have that here at Barstool HQ. The deflategate game. It's the deflategate game. Hank actually is responsible for that banner. Yes. Got arrested because of that banner. Yeah. You can't tell the story of the NFL without the 2014 Colts AFC finalist banner. We've had a lot of fun with that banner over the years. I think memes has made like 70 Photoshop's of it.

Uh, and now it's ours and we got to figure out a place to hang it up. We own it. We own it. But thank you to, to Mr. Irs. Incredible. Never in a million years. I knew that there was a package coming from them. Never in a million years did I think it was going to be that banner. No. So we tried to find a place to hang it up in the office. It's so big that there's maybe one or two places we can hang up, but we have to figure out a good place for it. Yeah, we do. Um,

It's an incredible gift. It is a piece of NFL history. Thank you to Mr. Ursa. Also, very funny way to like rid yourself of that. Yeah.

Yeah. Because putting it back up, you really can't do. It's been mocked a lot. But to send it to us, it's like, we have it now. Yeah. TJ had a very good suggestion, which was to get Christian Juszczyk to make jackets out of it. I want to upholster, re-upholster. I like that idea. All of Vanny Woodhead. Just turn it into the banner on the inside? The entire inside of Vanny Woodhead is just the banner. What if we just got in touch with Darren Revell and Clit and had him cut it up and then make trading cards with actual pieces of the-

banner on it. We also had, speaking of the Colts, my new favorite NFL fan. I didn't know this guy. Apparently he's like, I don't know, Colts fans know who he is. Flo with Seth makes a music video before every game, including preseason games.

I'm going to play you flow with Seth. It's only 30 seconds. His preseason music video for the Broncos versus the Colts preseason week one. Shout out this guy. We need to maybe get him to do a custom song for us. This is our team. This is for preseason. This is whether win or lose. For the shoe, the Broncos. Let's show them who the real horse is. This is our team. Go Colts.

The nay really does it for me. The nay does it for me. That was horrible. What are you talking about? That was awesome. That's a football fan, Hank. That's a football guy through and through. He makes a custom song for every game. I like the let's show them with the real horses. Yeah. And then the nay. The nay was everything. The nay went like you're kind of listening to it like I don't know. I don't know. Then the nay hits. You're like this guy rocks. I think Hank had already written him off after the opening line. That was sad, Hank. Yeah. Take it back. Show a little spoiler. Flo and Seth is the man.

flow seth is the man say it no okay he can do better sourpuss he can do better i i don't know sourpuss he can do better it was week one it's pre-season for flow with seth too that's facts get used to it um i was thinking if they tried to auction off that banner how much it would go for and then i realized we'd probably be the only ones that would bid on yeah we would just we'd drive yeah we'd drive the price up yeah yeah awesome gift awesome gift did you guys like flow with seth

Love them. Okay, good. Voice of an angel. Yep. Yeah, we got to... I think the banner, I think we put it behind the video board. Yeah, it needs to be somewhere prominent. That's what I was thinking too. But that's pretty prominent. Yeah. You walk in and you see it. I just love it. I look at it and I smile. Yeah, it does need to be hung up. I want to see it all the time. It's probably the nicest gift I've ever gotten in my entire life. Yeah.

Yeah, probably. Yeah, think about it. What could top that? Oh, they're trying to figure out if they can put it up. We're trying to think of if we can make it our entire booth. It's way too big. No, but they could do it all the way around. Even on top, maybe. No, but everyone would do that in their dorm room, trying to be cool, put the flag little draped down. Yes.

get the vibes right I think PFT is jealous I want to find a good place I'm just telling you because I got to lay eyes on this thing when it was unfurled it's way too big for that room but what if we wrapped it where it was on every single piece of the room yeah I'm thinking like completely all the way around I still think it'd be too big no even in front of the glass I can live with that we should give it a try we should give it a try around the room

Okay, my who's back of the week is a PGA Tour because Graham McDowell on the live got one game, one week suspension for using nasal decongestant. That's what he said. Yeah. He said that it was Vicks. Yeah, it was Vicks. Banned substance. Either way, I was shocked to know. Does this count for announcers too? Because Jake might be in trouble. Big time. Oh, yeah. But I was shocked to know that Liv had.

a steroid policy. I thought that was the entire point. It was like, hey, Dustin Johnson, come play on our tour. Right. You're good. So the PGA Tour is back. Yeah. Like, this is bad for the live. You have no rules. You play golf with shorts. I'm pretty sure that they could sweep this under the rug. Who is it? Graham McDowell? Graham McDowell. Yeah. If it was somebody not named Graham McDowell that made the money. The next event he'll be at is the Live Chicago event. Maybe we should go out with the big asterisks.

Poster board I'm gonna use so much nasal spray before that I can't believe you took away the game we love Wait is that the next event That's the next well he's suspended from the next event And then the next event he can play in Is the Live Chicago event But yeah when they said golf but louder I didn't think it was gonna have You know Vicks Vaporub was gonna be included That's fucked up If you're the live tour make everything legal Have it be steroids but golf Right tackling Yes

In a football. In a football. And then your championship game is in February. And then you redo the tee shot at the beginning. Make it very confusing where nobody knows what's going on. They definitely will try to create a football league. I'm in. More football. Yeah. All right, Huey, your who's back of the week. My who's back...

The good old quarterback controversy. It's the perfect time of year for that. I think right now in New England, in Denver, maybe a little talk about it happening in Tennessee maybe. Oh. It's always the mid-tier teams.

It's never the top-tier Super Bowl-winning potential teams who are in quarterback controversies. But the quarterback who could be a controversy could come out like a Russell Wilson and Matt Flynn situation. There could be a guy who comes out of this. So it doesn't mean that they're going to be a guy this year, but this could be a future thing, especially for a Patriots or a Denver. This is the season. This is the time when we all...

And I feel like in Denver at least, Sean Payton has said so many nice things about Bo Nix. You know how coaches don't really give a shit what you do in the preseason? Sean Payton probably felt like he had to let Bo Nix have a great performance. So he probably schemed some shit up for him. So he didn't look like an idiot. That's a reputation pick. Yes. His reputation is on the line.

I think the same with Petix, although Kirk is going to be the starter. But, yeah, it is fun having this time of year. Well, it's fun being on the other side. Yeah, I don't have a quarterback controversy. No controversy here. As much as I love Tyson Bajent, there is no controversy. Yeah, I literally have no other good quarterbacks. Yeah, there was the year that the Bears brought in. We brought in Foles and Andy Dalton. That was sad. That was the saddest quarterback controversy. From Mitch Trubisky.

By the way, we should have said Foles. Happy retirement. Yeah. We didn't mention it on Friday. Hank, favorite Foles memory? None. None? You can't think of one? Nope. Come on. Snow game. Snow game was cool. You remember when he threw that? I don't know if he was a quarterback. Wait, he didn't throw it. Fuck him. Didn't he at one point catch a ball in the Super Bowl? Was it in the same game that Tom Brady didn't catch a ball where he dropped it? That seems like a very special play. It does seem special. Hmm. Max?

Yeah, no, I like that play. Max, where does Nick Foles rank for you all-time Eagles? Top five. Top five? Top five, yeah, for sure. I mean, yeah, I guess that makes sense. For sure, without a doubt. He didn't play long enough to be number one. More than Hurts? Yeah.

He won a Super Bowl. He did? Yes. Right now, Foles is above us. What a career for Nick Foles. Yeah, Nick Foles, not a Hall of Famer, but he did have that one season where he, like a magical season. We should do a Mount Rushmore of guys that had like... Well, he had two magical seasons. Yeah, he had the one season that people... 22-2, was it? 22 touchdowns, two interceptions. Two interceptions. It was crazy. He couldn't throw a pick that year. Yeah.

But no one thought. Yeah. And then we traded for Sam Bradford. Yeah. But he had, let's see, Nick Foles, Super Bowl. And oh, this is he's got 87 million in the bank cash. Pretty good. The snow game. Also, this is very depressing because I just pulled up his earnings. I was at that game. His birthday is January 20th, 1989. Oh, no.

I thought that was what my, if you listen back when I said, Oh, that was because I saw in 1989, I was like, he just retired and he's four years younger than us. If you had asked me, I would have said 1983. He seems so old, right? God damn it. Fulls is old as fuck. Oh, actually I was thinking about this, uh, side tangent.

If LeBron wanted to, how long do you think he could play? So he's embracing the gray thing. I don't know if it's a Paris deal where he's like, I'm going to let my beard grow out and have it be gray so everyone sees how gray I am. Yeah. Old King still reigns, that type of thing. But based on the way that he played, if his steroid guy is still around, I think... We'll get to the steroid Mount Rushmore. I think he could play another...

Five years. But hold on. I asked that incorrectly. If he embraced being like, I'm not going to be LeBron James, but I'm going to play till I'm not good enough to play in the NBA, I think it'd be 10 years. Maybe. If he, in five years from now, said, I'm cool being a bench guy, coming off the bench for five minutes a game. He...

He will be better at 45, five minutes off the bench than a ton of players. I think at least five more years. Right. At least. It's very interesting. I don't think that – I know that that's not how he's going to want to go out. He's not going to want to go out being on the bench. But he's the first time where it's like –

What's his name? Haslam did. No, wait. Yeah, you're down as Haslam. Yeah, you're down as Haslam. But he wasn't actually contributing at the end. But LeBron, it's crazy to think, but I actually would say that LeBron, if he wanted to play basketball at 50 years old, could probably make an NBA roster. He probably could, yeah. I don't think that's that far off because right now he's still top five in the world easily. Top ten. I think he's probably top five in the world. In the world now.

In the U.S. Top 10. But still, I feel like he could. Well, Tatum's better. Is he? If they were on the same team, who do you think would get the minutes? Hank, we didn't mean to get back to this point. It just happened. Well, we're talking about LeBron. This is the magic of the show. I was bringing up an actual hypothetical. We just ended up back in this spot. If you were to take the five best players from the United States, would you have LeBron in there or Tatum? Tatum. But if you're trying to win. Yeah, he'd be in the closing lineup.

He should be. He'd be in my closing lineup. Okay. Yeah, I think at least five more years. Yeah. I kind of want him... LeBron, you can save your legacy for me personally, which I know you care so deeply about, if you just try to push it as far as you can and see if you can play when you're 55. Jordan never won sixth man of the year. Right. He could be... I don't know. It'd be cool. It'd be cool to see. He wouldn't do it, but it would be cool to see. You get an entire season of load management. Right.

Just put them in. I'm going to go hard as you can for five minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Um, okay. Let's get to our incredible interview with Matthew Stafford. And then after that we will do our Mount Rushmore. Hopefully not as contentious as yellow. Actually, I hope it is. Uh,

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It is Matthew Stafford. First of all, thank you for joining us. Of course. Thank you guys for having me on. Yeah. So we start every Grit Week interview with the same question. How would you define the word grit? Oh, man. That's the good stuff. That's just being able to fight through whatever...

is ailing you, whether it's a situation or how you're feeling, but being able to push through anything to get whatever the goal is accomplished, right? Whether that's winning a football game, having a good play, you know, rallying for the next night out, whatever it is, you got to have a little grit. Separating your shoulder. Yeah. Coming down the field. That clip, you are a gritty quarterback. You've gone through a ton. I mean, you've gotten hit a million times. You're tough as hell. Yeah.

Do you ever watch that clip of you famously separating your shoulder and then being like, Hey, come out. And you're like, no, I'm not fucking coming out. Do you watch that and be like, man, I am tough. No, I usually, uh, I think about that clip or I see that clip and I just start wincing again. But, uh, no, it's, uh, that's a cool thing that I got. I lucky, luckily to, uh,

have been miked up you know by nfl films for that moment um otherwise everybody's just calling me an idiot get back up let's go you wuss but uh it was uh it was kind of a cool moment to have yeah cool you were like get off me you actually like had to push trainers off you yeah does that usually work yeah usually they're kind of soft you know uh you know you can kind of get what you want um when it comes to those guys so no i uh yeah that was a weird one right they called time out and for some reason in my head the moment it clicked it was like

that counts as basically my play that I had to sit out so I could go back in and I knew there was only going to be one more play so I could get through one play with whatever else going on. What hat are you wearing right now? What is that? Dodger hat. Dodger hat. Do you know anyone that plays for the Dodgers? No, I don't. Just an outside fan. You never went to school with anybody that's on the team? No, just from the outside looking in. Can we fact check that? Really? Do a deep dive. I don't know if anybody's heard of it. I mean, you play the game so you don't listen to the games. Do you know how annoying that is? Yeah, I mean, I do. Okay.

All my friends and family do the same shit to me all the time and, you know, give me a tough time. But, yeah, I get it. You know, it was cool 10, 12 years ago, but everybody gets it now. And now we add Scotty. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's just too much. It's crazy. It's too much. It's wild. When he got arrested, were you like, oh, man, this dragon or high school? No, I was like, good for you, bro. You're just trying to make your tea time, man. Like, guy's just trying to make his tea time. Yeah. Do you ever feel like you don't get enough credit for doing the no-look passes?

I don't know. I don't think about it too much, to be honest, as far as credit goes. I know that they're fun when they work. They're kind of shitty when they don't. But it's part of it. I think defenses are so good these days. These guys are so good at reading what we're doing with our eyes. So I'm just trying to take advantage any little way I can. How long have you been doing that? Is that something that's just more of a recent thing that we're noticing because there's more camera angles everywhere? Or were you doing that way back in the day? I think it's probably...

you know, been publicized a little bit more recently, but I was having to do that probably back in the day with Calvin. You know, everybody in the building, I was trying to throw him the ball. So I had to find different ways to make it look like I wasn't throwing him the ball and try to move underneath coverage to throw it to him. But yeah, I mean, it's definitely gotten more, you know,

I guess recently, but I had to do that with Megatron, just trying to get him the ball. Yeah. When he retired, how often would you call and be like, can you just maybe please? Just one more game? For the love of God, please come back. I need you. No, it was, you know what, that's one of those, he was such a special player, such a generational player and such a great teammate that

I was genuinely just so happy for him that he was walking away when he wanted to walk away. He was an all-time great. We all knew it. It was unbelievable to get the chance and the opportunity to play with him as a young player. But I was so happy for him, and I'm still so happy for all his success. But, you know, yes, our team was better when he was out there. There's no question about that. But I was happy for his career and his ability to walk away when he wanted to, which I think is such a cool thing. Do you have a favorite throw ever?

No, probably not. There's got to be at least one or two that are up there. There's a couple good ones that I can remember that were kind of fun and meaningful. In the Dallas game back in the day at Detroit, big comeback late in the game. That last two-minute drive, I ended up hitting a rail shot to Chris Durham, who's my college roommate. Played a few years in the league with me and hit him on a long ball down the left side into a two-tamp coverage, which was a cool shot. Yeah.

in London against the Falcons. We were down big and I think it was the touchdown. I think that got me the, um, career lions TD mark passing TD mark. I threw one to golden Tate. That was just a, a launch. That was a good one. Um,

do you know when it's like when you when you're throwing like a deep ball yeah you know the second you release you're like damn that i fucking that's a good i threw the hell out that's a good one yeah no doubt yeah well that was kind of a weird one they were like hey every once in a while they would just kind of rush through you drop eight and i just told gt i was like hey man just keep running yeah and it was one of those i kind of bought a little bit of time um it was third crazy long might have been 20 something like that and hit a long touchdown um similar to the one i hit cooper in uh

Tampa in the divisional round, right? Like third and 19. They're like, oh, they're just going to check it down. And that's when you can kind of go for the dagger every once in a while. Now you're going to throw a couple picks doing that too. But some touchdowns that get you back in a game or do something big. Yeah, that one against Tampa was sick. We also have a coworker who's the most annoying person in the world who's a diehard Bucs fan. He literally snatched the soul out of his body, which was awesome. I love that. That was a crazy, crazy game. I mean, honestly, the deep ball to Cooper in that game to put us in field goal range is like – Yeah.

As far as a full play, I mean, the situation, the whole thing, that was a really, really special one. Weird question for you. Yes. First time you ever checked your Amex points, how many did you have?

This might have been a question from a weirder guy, Dan Orlovsky. Oh, gosh. I don't know. Orlovsky, did I tell him at some point? I don't know. Yeah, he just said that. I said, what... It's a lot of points. I've never used any. Let's put it that way. I've never used... Will you ever use any? I don't know. I'm kind of at the point now where I'm like, I don't know if I will. So our boss, Dave, he has 60 million points, and he said he will never use them. I don't have that many, but...

So you'll never use an e-mail? Yeah, I have a lot of points. And you're never going to use it? No, I don't think so. Wow. I love that. What if somebody wants your points? Yeah, I mean, we could talk about it afterwards if that's what you want to do. Okay, you can sell your points. Listen, I...

I don't want to say like I didn't I'm a Bears fan so I obviously Lions and Bears are playing but I always was like I respect the fuck out of Stafford I had to take that you're going to be a Hall of Famer in 2018 and people laughed at me I appreciate that that sounds like it should be worth a few ammends yeah I can throw a couple points your way have you have you

thought of that though like you are mx points no well mx points but yes also hall of fame your career has been phenomenal you are and my point at the time was look at his longevity if he has a deep playoff run obviously win a super bowl he's going to be right there and if you look right now three to four if you play three or four more years you're going to be top five passing yards top 10 touchdowns have you had a second to look back and be like damn like i'm stacking it up here

uh yeah i mean i think i definitely every year that i play now i just appreciate so much and i think back on i mean we were just talking about you know plays from my rookie year and it's like man that was a long long time ago i walk into a locker room with guys that were six seven eight nine years old when i first came into the league which is kind of crazy to think about um but i definitely appreciate my opportunities and appreciate this game i mean it's given me a ton uh

I hope I got three or four more left in me. We'll see. Every year is a new year, but I do feel good. And as far as the history books and all that kind of stuff, I have so much respect for this game. Like, I was the kid that grew up watching NFL films, watching Steve Sable and those guys, voiceover stuff. And like, I was all in on Johnny Unitas and Sling and Sammy Ball and all the guys, right? So I have a ton of respect for this game. And just being anywhere near guys like that in that kind of conversation is incredibly humbling. And

something that I don't think about on a day-to-day basis, but when it comes up, man, it's a ton of appreciation for me. Yeah, well, I had your back. Yeah, I appreciate you. People, I was going back through it today looking at it, and people were like, no chance. I was like, dude, he's played so many games. Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah. And the Super Bowl on top of that, yeah. So what, like a million Amex points? Yeah, I can get you that. Okay, all right. That actually speaks very highly for Dan Orlovsky. He is a great analyst if he knows how many –

points you have and you don't even know it. It's also very weird that he knows that and you don't. I'm going to check my password when we leave here just to make sure it's not Orlovsky8. Do you ever tell Dan like, hey, chill out man, you love me a little too much? No, I don't. I just accept it all. I accept it all. Keep bringing it. He's the man. I had such a great time. He's such a good dude. He's such a great guy to be a part of a team with. He was a great backup for me and taught me a lot. So

I appreciate Dan and everything he says. Did you get a little bit jealous when he started going hard about Carson Wentz? You're like, oh no, does he have an issue? Yeah, I thought that was kind of fucked up. I thought it was a trust tree thing and he just decided to turn his back for a minute. He came back. If you love something, set it free if it returns. Yeah, I mean, you throw a guy MX points, he'll do anything. He'll turn right back around. I pulled up a stat earlier. Since 2011, you have the most fourth quarter comebacks.

of any quarterback yeah have you considered sucking less in the first three yeah you know i think about it but that's such a good stat like i can't let that go to somebody else yeah no three four games a year you know just kind of toy around the first three quarters and then figure it out late mr comeback yeah why not with quarter why not yeah uh i got a weird question our good friend tony scheffler oh yeah detroit

When Dave and I beat him two on one in his driveway, did anyone in the Lions locker room give him shit for that? I don't know that we did, but man, how is Tony doing? I haven't talked to Tony in forever. He's the freaking man. He's the best. I love that guy. He was all time celebrations guy. Yeah. In Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay, the Buccaneer sword.

The Kansas City Chiefs, he had the loincloth. He was making the smoke signal. He was an all-time celebration guy, super fun guy. Great dude. A Hall of Fame dude. Who's your favorite teammate you've ever played with? Oh, man. That's a good question. Yeah.

I got a bunch, man. I think like early on the offensive lineman, the guys that I had, like Dominic Rayola was a big time, you know, great teammate taught me a bunch. Also kind of a psycho, but in like a good way. Yeah. Kid baller. Yeah. I mean, unbelievable talented quarterback. You're his godfather, right? Yeah. I mean, he's a stud. Yeah.

He's one. Nate Burleson was a great dude to be around. All-time fun guy to be around. Didn't have that long of a stretch with him. Obviously, the guys here, Aaron Donald, Cooper, those guys are unbelievable. Do you still eat breakfast, Cooper, every morning? Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, we sit in there. We were watching tape this morning a little bit. We were actually watching the 2017 Rams-Colts season opener.

Why? Because we wanted to see what the first game, how the offense has evolved since Sean's first game here calling it to. Now it's quite different. And then we turned on 2018 Rams Lions at the Lions and watched me lose a game, which was kind of shitty. That's tough. Are you ever like, hey, can we watch something else besides football? Yeah, I think about it all the time. But, you know, Cooper would be, that's totally off limits. Totally off limits. Have there been any other players that are like, you know,

you know trying to to kiss up a little bit too much to you and you're like i want to get in the breakfast club no you know it's i it's not even like an exclusive thing like puka's in there a bunch too um our cafeteria here i don't know if you guys have been lucky enough to have a meal here we have not it's uh it's tight tight quarters yeah please okay please on me on me um it's it's tight quarters in there so it's there's not a whole lot of seats and tables and um

We're in the process of moving into a new facility. So it just kind of migrated into the QB room because we're always getting notes and stuff from Sean early anyways. So it's not some exclusive closed-door meeting thing. Everybody passes through and tells us what's up. Yeah. Going back to last year's playoffs, how tough was it to go back to Detroit? And I know, obviously, you have that history. All your daughters were born there. Was it...

a moment where it's like, man, this is going to be difficult, even though we got to go play a game. Like it's, there's just more energy to it. Yeah, definitely. Um, it definitely was, uh, I'm not, I would be not human if I wasn't feeling some of those emotions, even like the week of practice, thinking about it, you know, and talking to people that, um, you know, meant a lot to me in my life and in my career that still live in Detroit and are a big part of the community there. So,

It definitely was, you know, kind of, it meant a lot. It was tough. And then when I walked into the stadium, I definitely felt it. But once the ball was sent, man, it was time to go. I was just trying to...

Trying to throw for as many yards I possibly could, score as many touchdowns, and beat the hell out of them. It didn't go down that way, but that's all I was trying to do. Don't worry. We gave Sean a ton of shit for punting. Okay, good. So he'll never do that again just because we shamed him. We're going to go for every fourth down this year. Yes, fourth and 14. Let's go. That's Stafford zone. Were you surprised at the welcome that you got in Detroit? No.

Honestly, I know what kind of fans they are. And honestly, I totally understand it. I get it. They're going to want to do everything they can to make my life as uncomfortable as possible. They haven't had a playoff game there in 30 years. So they're going to be jazzed up for whatever. And the fact that it was me, I mean...

And our team, I'm sure it was even more so. That was honestly one of the best atmospheres I've ever played a football game in. Sean and I talk about it all the time, and it was incredibly loud. We came up for warm-ups, and there was not an empty seat. And I mean, it was go time from the second we first stepped out of the tunnel. So it was a lot of fun. It was a great game. Were you rooting for them after they won?

No, I'm not rooting for anybody at that point. I have a couple teammates that I wanted to, like ex-teammates that I really wanted to see play well and they did. But at that point, I wish everybody could lose. Yeah, I like that. Do you watch the playoffs? Sometimes, you know, it's hard. You know, I'll peek it, but I'm not like invested being like, oh, that'll be a good matchup next week. I'm like...

F this. I want to be out there. Yeah, right. After you win a Super Bowl, though, does it take a little bit of the sting out of losing the playoffs? I think it's almost the opposite in the fact that I know what that feels like now. I've got the losing in the first round. I've got that one locked up. I know what that one feels like. I've only gotten one taste at the Super Bowl, and I'm like, man, I want to do that. And when you get those opportunities, I've had so many years where we didn't have that opportunity at all to play in the playoffs, that when you get...

you know, the opportunity, you're really close. You know, I mean, like the fact that, you know, Detroit did what they did after they beat us, man, if we win that game, who knows what happens. So it's,

um i makes it you know almost even harder to be honest you're chasing the dragon yeah another parade yeah you had fun at the parade yeah yeah i was gonna ask if you remembered thinking that you were in st louis during the parade but you probably don't remember anything did you say like what's up st louis no i uh i don't know i uh i was having a good time uh that one

was an early start, limited breakfast, all the good recipe for a tough day, but you know what? We had a good time. We enjoyed it. We, as from a fan's perspective, when like guys get super drunk at the championship parade, it's the best. Yeah. I mean, that's what you should do. I know, right? Yeah.

I was kind of felt bad about it. And Kelly was like, what are you talking about? That's what exactly you've been playing this game for forever. Getting your ass kicked. Like you deserve to do whatever you want. And I was like, yeah, I guess so. Yeah. Fun. Yeah. Speaking of your wife, by the way, are you nervous that she and Jersey Jerry have DM before?

Yeah, I guess. You should be. Yeah, I am. She's going to end up playing Madden with him. Yeah, that's great. I can't wait. And he's also going to find a way to get all your signed memorabilia from your house. Oh, perfect. When that goes missing, I'll know where to look. Yeah, I...

I have no idea. Social media is a monster that is lost on me. I'll do you a favor. I'll watch Jerry for you. Thank you. I appreciate it. Because if there's some weird Stafford cleats showing up at the office, I'm like, where'd that come from? Ship him back. He's definitely going to say, hey, can you grab me a signed jersey? My son's a big Matt Stafford. His name's also Jersey Jerry. Make an autograph out to him. He DMs a lot of

players wives players mom so at least that you have okay okay good i feel safe yeah right actually you'd be you'd be lucky if it was her sending you your shoes he's probably gonna ask for her shoes yeah that's what you got to watch out for little shoes you don't want six quick break from matthew stafford talk about hard knocks it's back and it's the official hard knocks podcast from hbo and nfl films this year hard knocks heads to chicago for the bears training camp i'm very excited

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I thought for sure you would have recruited your brother-in-law here by now to take over as QB coach or OC. He is known as the best wide receiver coach in the NFL. Yeah, I don't even know who that is. No, Chad's the man. I'll tell you what, I'm not quite at the LeBron status where I just get to bring and hire whoever I want, but Chad is the man. I used to throw to him all the time in the offseason too. He was like my receiver back in the day. But yeah, I mean, we've been trying to get him out here some way, somehow.

He would go great in California with the blonde flow. I mean, it's a real thing. I mean, Sean just hired his best friend from college. That's true, but I don't make the coaching hires. If Chad could still run a route, I could maybe get him a tryout as a receiver. But no, it's really cool to watch his career and their family grow. It's been cool. Yeah, all right. So just remember the name, Chad Hall. He's going to be a head coach. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yes, absolutely.

He's known as the best wide receiver coach. That is what I read. He rocked it out in Buffalo there for a long time, and he's crushing it in Jacksonville now, so he does a good job. And that's not from him. No, no, no, no. I read that off. That's from a different guy. That was top of my head. Well done. So what are we thinking for this year? How are we looking at camp? I know that Coach told you guys not to fight, right? Yeah. Have you fought anybody? I have a theory that the new Guardian, the caps that they wear, the soft ones, people are taking them off and swinging them at people more because they're softer.

Well, I saw some clips from, what, Detroit and New York the other day. They were fighting pretty good, and dudes were just smacking each other in the gardening cap. But I guess, yeah, it doesn't hurt your hands as much. I have not fought anybody, haven't had the urge to yet. I'm usually just too tired of practice to even think about fighting. But, no, we've kept the chippiness down, which is good. Camp's been good. A couple guys dinged up, which is like...

you know, the worst, you know, for those guys. I feel so bad for them. You're trying to, you know, kind of come together, but I feel good about this year. So as a veteran of the NFL for as many years as you played in it, I imagine that going to camp,

every year in the middle of the summer, you're like, it's probably not a great feeling, but also something that you have to do, something to learn. Like, are you actually doing different things this year than you've done in the past? No, I mean, it's pretty standard for me. I had one, I had one like vet off day, the first day of pads.

uh, this year. That was kind of like the only thing I've had that's been different than anybody else. Um, that was something that we kind of knew going into camp, um, that I was going to do, but no, I mean, it is, uh, you know, late July every year, you just, you know, buckle your chin strap and get ready for a, you know, six, eight month grind. And, and, um,

This is the start of it. I know training camp has changed so much. When I first got in the league, I was part of the old CBA. We were going two, three-a-days, full pads, just beating each other up for weeks on weeks. It's definitely more player-friendly now, but I also think it's just a better way to do it. I think we're getting better work out of it. Speaking of camp, how fast last year –

Were you like, oh, Puka Niku is a dude? Yeah, I mean, Coop was out last year pretty quickly with a hamstring, and we lost him. And, yeah, I mean, you could kind of feel it, you know, just physical. Like, it was always going to take time. You're a rookie, right? Like, it's going to take time to keep understanding, but it was a testament to him to be able to kind of learn on the go. You know, a lot of people need a full year to kind of just learn and then go, and he was able to do it all in one.

Physical tools are there. I mean, big, strong, physical. So much of his yardage last year was like hidden yardage run after the catch. And that's stuff you can't really teach. You just kind of let him be himself. And that's a pretty darn good player. Yeah. Go ahead. I was going to say on the college front, do you call the dogs?

Do I call the dogs? No. This is a fan. Oh, like a Georgia thing? They call on all the dogs. They start barking at people. Oh, yeah. No, I'm not like a... Yeah. You know what? I actually get wildly uncomfortable when people bark at me or be like... Yeah. They'll be walking down the street like... No dogs. And I'm like... Yeah.

Yeah. I don't ever give them the go-dogs back. It just doesn't sit right with me. I don't know why. It's definitely a player-fan disconnect. I agree. We'll see videos on flights going across the country to a Georgia road game or a bowl game, and there'll be guys just jam-packed on Southwest Airlines just barking at the pilot when he gets on. He's like, what the fuck?

Screaming at me. I'm like, guys, thanks. You got to start barking back. Yeah, I need to. Just a little bark. I know. I need to. My wife's from Georgia, so I got to make her proud. What was your favorite game at Georgia or your least favorite game? Favorite game at Georgia...

um probably two we had the blackout versus auburn my sophomore year which was the first time we ever wore a black jersey which was sweet we had a great game um keelan johnson i believe with a pick on the first play which was awesome um and then sugar bowl that year in hawaii against hawaii was really cool felt like we should have been a national championship game there that year we kind of got jumped because we didn't go to the sc championship but went to uh new orleans had a good time in new orleans and uh

beat up on Hawaii, so that was a good one. Least favorite game? Probably at Kentucky my freshman year. Got my helmet ripped off on a QB run on third down. Kept running.

smashed in the forehead, nose cut, the whole thing. And we lost. So I had the loss and just a mauled face for a couple weeks, which was a tough one. It probably looked pretty sweet, though, when it happened. Yeah, I mean, I don't remember it that way, but as a fan, yeah, you probably thought it was sweet. Because I've seen, you seem to take a, how should I put this, a less physical approach to the game sometimes. I've seen you out in space as like a lead blocker on a reverse. Oh, yeah. Your blocking is, it's something to watch. Yeah, it is. You're kind of like...

kind of get in the way yeah but then also kind of get out of the way well nowadays nowadays i'm just talking to the defenders hey man hey man easy up easy up don't hit me you know i'm just trying to like you know get out of the way safely yeah but earlier in my in my career yeah i mean i uh

I like the physical part of the game a little bit more than I do now. There's no question. Yeah, in that game against Detroit, they beat you up pretty good. Yeah. You got knocked around a little bit. Do you get mad in the games? Like when you have that adrenaline surge like you did in rookie year, what we talked about, like are you mad? Are you mad that they're hitting you like that? No. It kind of fires me up a little bit. You know, like there's only two ways for you to go react as a player, right? Like you're going to either –

like wilt and go sit on the sideline and be intimidated by getting hit or you got to charge yourself up and be like keep bringing it and uh I think the first one of the early third downs of the game I threw one to to Marcus Robinson and smashed my hand on the helmet and got hit and

hurt like hell, but the only thing I knew how to do was just act like it didn't and scream back at those dudes and get myself fired up. That's grit. How far can you throw the ball still? Still? Oh, man, I don't know. And maybe what was your peak? Yeah, I don't do it much anymore. In high school, we went to that Elite 11 camp. I threw 178. That was like the longest I...

ever like tried and threw it you know I read a story that you went to the Manning Passing Academy or yeah they when you were on the Manning cast maybe they told the story that they book Eli and Peyton were like we don't want to throw after Stafford when you were like 17 years old because you were just like hucking it everywhere yeah back in the day I was the arm was live yeah it was live back in the day um taking a couple hits heard a couple things here and there but no I can I can still get it out there a little bit I don't I I couldn't even tell you to be honest with you it's probably it's

with a six instead of a seven like it used to, but it's probably a high six number. Do guys not like catching your balls? Like when they come over from a different team, are they like, this guy, it hurts? Used to be that way. Used to be when I was young and I didn't really know what I was looking at. Everything was coming out as hard as I could. And I was trying to hurt people with it. Now I'm trying to help them catch it, which is better for the completion percentage. People don't give Matt Stafford enough credit for your arm. Yeah, well, I don't know. It's whatever it is still anymore. But back in the day, I could do it.

I could throw it around a little bit. Yeah. Did you ever play baseball? I did. Were you on anyone's team? No, no. Sounds like you've got a live arm. It was a one-man show. Did you have the best arm on your team? No. Oh. No. Who did? That's crazy. Jake Felt. I just picked another teammate. Jake, love you, man. Shout out Jake. He's just sitting in his office right now. He's sitting in his office like, fuck you. That's exactly what we needed another guy to talk about. A guy that nobody talks about. Jake Felt. Jake Felt. I'll tell you what. He was...

Eighth grade, this guy was shaving in the eighth grade. He was an unbelievable stud. We'd go to tournaments. He was winning MVP, hitting bombs. Hell yes. Launching it. Get that, Matt Stafford and Jake Felt. Jake Felt. Best it never was, Jake Felt. I don't understand how people don't know that. But fun fact about Jake Felt, five touchdowns in the state championship game, Texas high school record. Wow. Jake Felt legend. Jake Felt legend. And he caught, who threw those? Zero throws.

Oh, so wait. How about that? What? Yeah. They were playing a lot of two deep show. We were handing it off, coach. Take what you give you, yeah. Jake Fowler just running with it? Running with it. Caught a pass from a receiver on a double reverse pass to a receiver. Won 59 to nothing. It was kind of like a... Jerry's World? No, back in the day, Tyler Rose Stadium. Oh.

Jake Felt. Jake Felt was a problem. We're going to just start saying that. Like, who is the best to come out of Highland Park? Jake Felt. Ever heard Jake Felt? Yeah. He's going to be fired up. Good for you, man. Deep cut. Good for you, man. Who's going to hit him?

We got to have Jake Feld on the... When was the last time you talked to Jake Feld? I talked to Jake a decent amount. Oh, okay. All right, all right. Cool. All right. Love that. We got to have him on the pod at some point. Yeah, we got to. We actually are going to track him down. Open invite. Yeah, we're going to track him down and we're going to interview Jake Feld. That rocks. We're just going to be like... What's in store for this year? Prediction. Record? Yeah. I don't do that. We're going to try to win a whole lot more than we do lose, but no, it's...

It's so much fun to get out there and do it, man. I honestly do have a ton of fun with it. But as far as predicting a record, I got no idea for you. We'll see. Every year is a brand new year. If you would have told me last year we were going to be 3-6 at the Biot, I would have told you you were crazy because I thought we were playing really good. And then if I told you we're going to win 7-1, we're going to go 7-1 after that, you would have told me I'm crazy. So it's just got to go out there and play them, and that's the cool thing.

The amazing part about NFL football is you kind of go into the season, you kind of know Georgia's going to be good. You kind of know Ohio State and those teams are going to be the big-time powerhouses. And then you come to the NFL, you're like, man, who knows? Nobody had the Houston Texans doing what they did last year. So you've got to go out there and prove it every single year. How awesome was it at the end of the game against the Commanders last year where Ron Rivera ran like nine plays inside the two-yard line? And he took like four minutes off the clock and didn't score a fucking point off it.

Are you bitter about that? No, actually, I was at the time. I was very angry at the time. But because we lost that game, we drafted Jaden Daniels. I think he's awesome. He's super fun to watch. At least he was in college.

And then an old backup of mine is a QB coach there too, David Blau. Shout out to David Blau. He did some good things for him. Love it. David Blau, Purdue? Purdue, Boilermaker. Yes, Boilermaker. Wife ran the 400-meter hurdles when he was with the Lions. They did the whole deal. The whole team watched it. I don't think she ran this year, but yeah, old David Blau's QB coach. All right, so no predictions, but dream career, how many more years are you playing?

I don't know, man. I feel really good and healthy right now. That's a really good cliche answer. No, but I would say this. Yeah, I mean, I'm full of them. I've been doing this for a long time. But no, I do think that there's no possible way I could tell you that answer right now because at the end of last year, I was completely worn out and zapped, right? And then it takes me...

to kind of just get charged up to go again. And what I put myself through physically, emotionally, and mentally, all that stuff for a football season, it takes a lot out. And I got an awesome family that I love being around. So I don't know. I know I'm going to enjoy this year. Hopefully I'm back next year playing. Hopefully I'm back the year after that playing. But I can't make any plans. But you feel great right now. I do. That's all that matters. I do. Honestly, Elbow was shit a couple years ago. It's not.

It feels great now. There's a lot of me that has kind of revamped and feels a lot better, so I feel good. Yeah, it felt like when you were going through your elbow injury, when you were trying to gut it out for a little bit, like you had some weird games where you had to like throw it weird. I was in a bad spot. Yeah. Really, you know, that elbow started the whole 21 season. I started wearing that sleeve because I was like taping myself underneath my sleeve just to keep the elbow going. I hurt it in camp that year and was able to get through that, and then we tried to do some things to help it fix, and I had –

And 22 was tough as far as the ability to go out there and execute. So it feels great. Last year felt great. Feels good again. Yeah. Are you like us as fans? Like if you have a bad game, do you just try to avoid any sort of media coverage whatsoever? And you're like, I don't want to listen to anything. Yeah. Because I don't want someone to accidentally bring the game up and I have to listen to their dumbass –

like, take about it? Because as fans, we avoid the media like the plague on Monday, Tuesday, probably Wednesday, even Thursday, then we'll get back into it. Yeah, if your team loses, yeah, yeah. It's like, I don't want to accidentally catch any strays about, like, flashing back to that game. Yeah, no, I mean, at that point, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, I mean, I'm, like, so moved on to the next game. Obviously, I'm trying to figure out what the hell went wrong in the last game, if we had a bad one or I had a bad one. All right, let's, how do we fix it? And if you're not thinking about the next opponent, Monday or Tuesday, like, you're way behind. So, uh...

That's where my focus goes and I don't really do a whole lot of watching or listening to a lot of like...

you know, sports talk or any of that kind of stuff during the season for that reason. So Stephen A. Smith doesn't enter your head at all? No, Stephen A. is not... He's not there. He doesn't have any space up here. Hey, who would have won the fight between Jim Schwartz and Jim Harbaugh? Harbaugh? Man, that's a great throwback. Yeah. One of our favorites. I mean, like, Harbaugh was already, like, de-robing. He was ready to shirt off at that point. He was ready to throw down. So, I mean, like, that's an early advantage. You know, we weren't going to be able to hockey pull the shirt over and go...

But no, that would have been a good one to watch. It would have been a really interesting one to see. That escalated quickly, as we like to say. But man, I got to go with my guy that drafted me, Schwartz. He's a really sharp dude. He probably would have found a...

interesting way to win that one. I think he would have had to kill Harbaugh. Because unless Harbaugh is dead, he doesn't stop. That's fair. That's a fair point. Did you ever tell Coach Schwartz that his nipples were showing? Because he always had rock-hard nipples. You know, that never came up. You would think it would. I saw it.

It was just hallway. I don't know what it was. I think he was just so excited to coach football. Yeah, I think he just gets geared up for it, man. Just have that polo tucked in. Like, damn. Have you noticed Coach McVay's beard's a little bit fuller?

Yeah, I think he's always got a great beard. Is it all natural? Oh, is that what you guys are hinting at? Is he on the gear? I don't know, man. He might be. I'll have to get back to you guys on that one. No, we're confirming he is. We got a hair shot into his face. Oh, shit. That's a thing, huh? To thicken it out, yeah. Let him know he's not eligible for the Hall of Fame. Yeah, I will. Asterix. He's juiced. He's juiced. Asterix, yeah. Have you thought about, by the way, going to the Hall of Fame, who you would want to...

give your introduction speech? Oh, man. No, that's way too preemptive. Yeah, I mean, I... It was 2018. I was the one calling. No, I can't think of anybody. No, I have no idea. I wouldn't even want to speculate on something like that right now. Do you think about... It's bad luck. Do you think about dyeing your beard? No. I'm full, like...

whatever happens happens yeah gray situation i feel like it's i battle it yeah it's like you know what i got four daughters no shit you got a gray beard yes you know i mean i think that comes with the territory i get shamed for it all the time people just point it looks great picture thank you i appreciate it that's crazy that you got four daughters yeah and there's only two parents yeah right so who watches the other two yeah nobody just kind of figure it out yeah the old one it's like tag team you know they kind of come out come in come out come in we

Just hope we don't lose them. When was the last time you got a full night's sleep? Actually, last night. My kids are actually vacationing at the beach right now, so it was a beautiful night's sleep. That's why I look so rested. Yes. Good stuff. Thanks for saying that. All right. Well, Matthew, this has been awesome. I got one last question. Chevy question. Go to Chevy.com. Silverado, toughest truck out there.

this might be a weird one you might not even have any idea who these people are were you ever in the same room or do you wear of super fan in detroit don two legends of uh the season ticket holding community in detroit is that uh crack man crack man or whatever his name is no no they

They had a famous video where they got kicked out and they did like a press conference from like an alley. I don't know that one. I don't know that one. All-time video. I need to check that out. Send it to me. Let me know. Yeah, I'll say. The end zone. They're the best. So I went. I feel bad now. I went for the MAAC championship.

It was, I don't know, like 10 years ago, 11 years ago. And they said when they got kicked out, they said where their season tickets were. So I went and bought tickets. I'm a Bears fan. I hate the Packers. You guys were playing the Packers. Went to the game, sat and watched the game with them, dressed up, everything. No shit.

It was the Aaron Rodgers Hail Mary game. That was a tough game. Right in their face. They were sitting there telling me that they were – I don't remember what your guys' record was at the time. We had just won the Thursday night game before that, or the Thanksgiving day before that. I think we missed the playoffs that year by one game. Yeah, because they were doing the math. They're like, once we win this game, we're going to win the next one. And then, boom, right in their face. That one hurt. Phantom face mask. Yep. Yep.

That's what Aaron Rodgers... He gets away with that shit. Yeah, well, you know what? He should be in jail. It was a nice toss. It was a nice toss. I think we were in a tough defense. I think we had Ziggy Ansah guarding the sideline at that point, which didn't make... Yeah, probably not the most sense. But yeah, Detroit Don's super fan. They're big fans. Appreciate you guys. They're what, like...

The crazy Detroit fans are, we had a super fan on the show when the Lions made it to the playoffs just to get his reaction. And he said that there was a woman who sat next to him named Sprinkles who said, what time, 2017? She's like, I'm never coming to another game until they make it to the playoffs. And then they saw her at the playoff game. She showed up. True to her word. What a lady, Sprinkles. I think she dressed like a clown. Yeah, they thought she had died. And they're like, what? Sprinkles is my shit.

Yeah, so they brought her back to life. That's incredible. Good for them. Matthew, thank you so much. Best of luck this year. Appreciate it. Future Hall of Famer.

future giver of amex points to me yes former teammate of jake felt jake felt legend and tony sheffler our guy and uh we'll watch jersey jerry because again appreciate it that's i need a little oversight there the minute you see that name i i don't even know what that conversation is like i don't want to know like hey i talked to this guy jersey jerry i'll uh i'll ask that's yeah we got to shut that down perfect i like that thanks man thanks for having me on guys appreciate it yep

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He went up to Matthew Stafford and he said not, hey, Matthew Stafford, I'm a huge Lions fan or thank you for being the quarterback on my favorite team. He went up to Matthew Stafford and he said, hey, Matthew Stafford, you're the first person I ever saw get drafted. I still don't really understand what that means. And then we asked you and he's like, well, I was nine. It was the first draft I watched. Yeah.

Yeah, that makes sense to me. Yeah. So you don't remember any players ever getting drafted? You don't remember Calvin Johnson? How old were you? I didn't watch it live, though. He literally just saying physically he remembers. He didn't watch the draft before. Where were you? Where were you when Matthew Stafford got drafted? On the couch. Yeah, nice. First player I ever remember getting drafted. Now, did you watch the draft the year after?

Yeah. I was a Sue Sue and, uh, I don't know. Oh, Oh yeah. I thought it was the Sam Bradford draft. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds right. Um,

Yeah. So, yeah, that's what got me into the draft. I got super into all the drafts and got me into football. But the first season I ever watched was the 0-16 season. Okay. So I watched every game. So the draft was your biggest game. Okay. That makes more sense. And then I kind of didn't know how the draft worked. And then the week of the draft, I kind of figured it out. And I was like, oh, okay. We're up first. Yeah.

Yeah. The first pick. Not a snake. Yeah. But like, I would be sick if it was. It would be. I assumed like Stafford was going to be like a God, like day one, like, all right, we're, we're set. Like, yeah. And so that was weird when, you know, had to deal with all that. But Huey, who is your favorite person to watch get drafted?

Oh, it was an Adamic in Sioux. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't a year after. Yeah. Because you knew what the, you were ready for that draft. Yeah. You were a draft vet. Yeah. I've been through it before at that point. I was so excited for that guy. I,

Stafford's face when you said that, he was just like, what? But he laughed. He was like, oh, okay. Yeah. All right. I haven't heard that one before. He probably has so many Lions fans that have gone up to him in his career. Right. And never once has somebody said that to him. You were the first person I saw get drafted. Yeah.

Like that's impressive. That's impressive. Yeah, that's true. He's not going to forget that one. No, he definitely will not. I love that because you're going up to one of your athletic heroes and being like, let me tell you about when I saw you on TV one time. Yeah. It meant a lot to me to see you on my television. Yeah. Your name called. I was getting emotional in the corner when you guys started to talk about

the playoff game. Yeah. And, and the, and yeah. And you know, him getting his ass kicked in Detroit. Like that was, it was, it was very cool. Like hearing both him and Sean McVay, obviously he's different with Stafford because of the time that he spent there, but how much they like love that stadium in that environment, how cool they thought it was. And Stafford was, I mean, we've been trying to get Stafford on forever and it did not disappoint. Just a fucking great dude. Yeah. He's like awesome dude. Had a lot of fun talking to him. Hope everyone enjoyed the interview. Okay.

Mount Rushmore time. So what is the score? Do we have it? I can pull it up. Pull it up. I'm in first. Light little bit of controversy, maybe. No, there's no controversy, really. Hank broke the rules. Yellow really set this thing off. Feels like we're back into Mount Rushmore season. Yeah, I saw a lot of pictures of yellow cheese. Thank you, everyone, for having my back. What? Wait. Yellow cheese. That wasn't what you said. Yeah.

No, you saw no pictures of yellow pepper jack cheese. Wait, Hank, all the pictures that people were sending you and me and Big Cat and Max, you thought that those were yellow pictures of pepper? They were sending that to you. Yellowish. They're ready to get tortured, buddy.

Get ready to get tortured. What do you mean? Just this. Why? I don't think you're equipped. Your brain's equipped right now. Oh, I'm ready to go. Okay. So you cheated. This one. Yeah, but you cheated. I have the scores, by the way. Okay, give us the scores. I mean, I came in dead last. It didn't matter. But you still cheated. No, I didn't. I did not. You did cheat. How? The rule is you're not supposed to tip your picks beforehand. The first tweet I saw from you on Friday morning was cold play yellow.

That was a coincidence. You also had a picture of SpongeBob. These are your rules, SpongeBob. SpongeBob and Pikachu. And you created rules. That was after you guys were... You created these rules. Slipping out. Yeah, Hank, you retweeted... Yeah, I created the rules. I didn't break them. You retweeted the Mount Rushmore, and you're not allowed to do that. I do that every fucking show. You know, you can't retweet the poll and say you vote for Team 2. No, you don't retweet the Mount Rushmore. It's very different. Yes, I do. You broke the rules on Mount Rushmore season, which we hold very near and dear.

And that's what you do. You've shown it time and time again that you break the rules. You don't care about the integrity of Mount Rushmore. How about minus one point? Him and PFT tied. I think that's fair. No. Tied for last? Hey, when I broke the rules last year, you actually broke the rules. What was the punishment that you had? I forget. You were the first one to break the rules at Mount Rushmore. We need the commissioner of Rushmore to chime in. You broke the rules at Mount Rushmore way back in the day. He broke the rules, but he also came in last.

Yeah, it came in last. The pizza draft, you wrote the rules. It came in last, so it doesn't matter. Of what? This yellow. Yeah, but this is a pattern. That's what we're saying. It's a pattern of you flagrantly disrespecting Mount Rushmore season and the integrity of the operation. Which you did in the pizza draft. Got it. All right, so what do you want to do? I'll just retire? Nothing. All right, good. I don't want to retire. That would mean you would be in last. I did see that clip of the pizza draft, which I had forgot. I had memory holds of it because you've put so much blame on us for ruining Mount Rushmore. We seem like the bad guys.

And I forgot in that clip that before we admitted that we threw that draft, you admitted that you had someone else make all the picks for you. Liam. Yeah. Not you. Which is illegal. No, it's not. It wasn't on your team. You don't ask people for... No. Yeah, you do. What? What are you talking about? Yeah, what... And Liam made your list. Wait, how many... Wait, yeah, yeah, yeah. You ask people for help? No, but I'm sure you guys do. No. It's not... We're not doing rocket science. Yeah.

I was just curious. Okay. All right, so Mount Rushmore of steroid users, alleged. We'll put alleged in for most of these people. Do you want the score? I got the score. Yeah, yeah. Hank, did you ask anybody for help in this draft? Yeah, I did. Billy Football?

He could be a pick. He could be a pick. He could be a pick. All right, here's the scores. Max, first, 53. You don't have to say it like that. Big Cat, second, 44. Hank, third, 37. Ooh. PFT, last, 36. And we have nine Mount Rushmores left. Is that it? Hank got last place. I got first place in the last one. But memes, we need to figure out what the punishment is. So we have nine Mount Rushmores left.

Because I believe we end it before the Labor Day is the last one. It's going to get tight, boys. Okay. Memes? I don't think Hank should be punished. Yeah, no punishment. I think he should just be... You should give him a warning, though.

All right, you get one warning. There we go. And then maybe another warning. But I wanted a documented warning. So, like, when people look back at this summer's Mount Rushmore, it says the final scores, but then it says Hank received one warning. Actually, I'll find him. I'll find him. Mames, could you put that in writing? Yeah. A written warning? I'm going to fine $1,000 to the commissioner. When people look back at the history of part of my take, and they go through every Mount Rushmore season, it should say Hank won warning. Do you agree?

I would love a suspension. The yellow cold play, though. We've never done that before. That wasn't tipping a pick. Oh, you just happened to tweet your pick that morning. Yeah, it was just a video. I mean, we could play that game. You made this rule because we have bigger followings, and we could play this game, but we play by the rules. Like, if I just tweeted out my pick in the morning, everyone would be like, oh, I'm going to go vote for that. Oh, what you say. You allege that.

I guess you do. The whole reason we have the rule is because you're like, the listeners will vote for PFT and big cat over anyone else. So we can't let them know. And then you went and did that. It's almost like you did it intentionally. Yeah. It's almost like you want to get kicked out of Mount Rushmore. No, I guess that was a mistake. I wasn't really thinking that thoroughly about it, but that I guess by the letter of the law was wrong. Your laws. What do you mean? You weren't thinking that thoroughly. This is, these are all points that you've,

You've made these laws on us. Yeah, I was just like, I wasn't tweeting it about Mount Rushmore. It was a great song. I got reminded of it when I made the great pick and then I was like, oh, it's a great song. Let me tweet it out. It's not that good. Share it with my friends. It's not that good. Not in the top. You came in last. It's not Mount Rushmore. Yeah, the anime freaks didn't show out.

Shocker. Part of my take in the anime crossover. We got a few. Okay. Who goes first here? I'll rush more. I go first. It's a terrible draft. Shout out our guy at the meet and greet who gave us this idea. I think this is a good one. Yeah, it's a good one. Yeah. This will also be good. This will be.

It'll be a nice change of pace from Friday. Yeah, right. There's some more open-ended ones coming up because I do like those the most. Yeah, but we needed a... We needed a straightforward one. That one took a lot of years off my life, I think. We were arguing it days later. Not a brother. Italian. American. White. They're all white.

Yeah, no, I was, there was times where I was like laying in bed and I was just thinking about the cheese, the different weight cheeses. And then I was thinking, I, there was another time at one point I like thought, I was like, Oh, that was a good, that's a good argument that I should have used. I was like, I was thinking, I was like, Hank said yellow starburst. Does that mean he gets all starbursts because there's one yellow starburst?

Oh, it really rattled you. Well, taking Yellow Starburst was maybe the worst pick out of a lot of people. No, Yellow, the Coldplay song. Yeah, that's pretty bad. It was very bad. Yeah. Yep. All right, so I first pick. I picked Patrick Mahomes. What? Nothing. I did, and I admitted it was a bad pick. You haven't admitted any bad picks. I said I got crazy with that one. It was stupid.

Sometimes in Mount Rushmore, I know the PFT can back me up, but sometimes you just throw one and you're like, whoops, that was a mistake. I do it all the time. It just happens where you just say it out loud and they're like, fuck, I wish I had that back. Probably should have said ice cream sandwich in the sandwich draft. Yeah, right. It's a delicious sandwich, but it was a bad pick. But it happens every Mount Rushmore season where it's just like you just lose your mind in the middle of a draft. Someone makes a good pick, you panic, Patrick Mahomes gets picked.

I should have said meatball and pizza. Yeah, you should have. Didn't. Okay. Okay. My turn? Yeah. First. I will go with, I think steroids. I think one person. I think Barry Bonds. Yep. Okay. Good pick. That's a good one. That was a good one. There are a lot of good picks, but that's the one I think. Yeah. I still have my one, but I had Bonds as one, too.

Jose Canseco. Ooh, good pick. Big steroids guy. He's like the Johnny Appleseed of steroids for Major League Baseball. Taught everyone how to use it. Yep. The Bash Brothers. He looked like a beached whale. He was on so many steroids when he boxed Billy. Jose Canseco's got to be 1-1. Yeah. All right. So I'll just stay consistent here. Mark McGuire.

Broke the home run record. That was Steroid City. He was also the tip of the whole thing when they found the Andro. Great. Andro? Yeah, genius move on his part, by the way. We don't talk about... That's PR 101. Yeah. You leave a bottle of legal steroids in your locker so people talk about that, and then that's the controversy. Yeah. These are the... I would say these are like the faces... Those are the three faces of steroids. Yep. Yeah, the three pimply backs of steroids. Yeah. Mark McGuire, he captured...

I also, we should have said before, we got no problem with any of these. Right. We like steroids. They all should be in the Hall of Fame. In the Hall of Fame. Like, it's not a judgment thing. Maybe not Canseco. No, his numbers probably aren't there. Yeah. He lost to Billy Football. Well, yeah, that's the number one thing of why he shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. But yeah, Mark McGuire, Barry Bonds, they should be in the Hall of Fame. All right, Hank. I'm going to go with Lance Armstrong. Good pick. And then I will go... Tough.

See, four is such a good spot. It is. Four is a good spot. You get bangers back together. But then things are going to be pretty thin. Yeah, there's a wall. One's a tough spot for this draft. Brian Cushion. Ooh. Okay. Interesting. I had him on my list. He was much further down on my list, but I had him. I like it. I actually don't know. I'm going to take my next pick that I was planning on. I would have even taken him one, my first pick, because he is also Mr. Steroid.

Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yeah. I thought about him at one one. I mean, he's like, he actually also, the way he talks about stories is very funny. He's like, I was prescribed by a doctor. So what, like now all these guys are doing steroids and it's bad. Yep. But he was just, he was just roiding up. He was. And I mean, all his just, he's a icon. Make you feel good about Brian Cushing. He's on my, he's on my others.

I did have him. I had him as fourth round value. He's on my others. I mean, he was roided out. He was. And I think it was a combination of like, you know, the arms with him screaming all the time with his bloody face. Yeah. It's a good pick. Good picking. Okay. Arnold Schwarzenegger. Staring through my soul right now. He just. Are you mad at me or are you mad at yourself? I'm not mad. I'm happy. He took Coldplay again. I feel good. He just did it again. I feel good.

Lance was a good pick. Thank you. Lance had to go in the first round. Absolutely no-brainer for Lance. All right, for my second pick, I'm going to go with...

I'll go with Sammy Sosa. Sammy Sosa. Might not have done steroids. Did steroids. Definitely did steroids. I don't... I think his head got twice as big. I don't appreciate that question. Didn't he get adult braces, too? I think he got braces when he was like 35 years old. I'm going to find that clip from this year when Luke Kanellis asked him if he finally is ready to talk about his steroid use. And he just didn't talk, right? No, he... Hold on, I'm going to...

This is what he said. This is, like I say, this is not a question that I expected from you. Okay, that's not a guy who did steroids. Yeah, not a question I expected. That's not a guy who did steroids. That's like the only question he's ever been asked. I might have to put an asterisk on that pick, BFD. Big time steroid guy.

the biggest and he also did a genius movie he did he did his own version of andro but it was with a cork bat yeah or it was like everyone well that was that was to put on a show for the people that's a that's a batting practice i just love that he's still like you can't be more of a steroid guy to have a steroid question still like kneecap you in 2024 yeah just say you did it dude just be like uh not a question i expected from you okay

I'm going to go with A-Rod. Okay. Good pick. Good pick. I'm between two picks here. A-Rod should have taken A-Rod. No, I would have. You got suspended for a year. I would have rather. Well, you have another pick. I know. A-Roid. Oh, you're saying you would have rather taken Sammy. I think I would have rather had Sammy. I'll trade Sammy. You want to trade? Can we do trades?

I mean, no, no, we have the most passive. We're basically our commissioner is Bud Selig. He's just like, I'm not looking at what you guys are doing. All right. No trade. No trade. Okay. This one's tough between two guys. I'll go Roger Clemens. Good pick. Roger Clemens. Good pick. Yep. Okay. My favorite Royd rage moment from Roger Clemens was when he threw that bat at Mike Piazza. Yeah. And then he yelled at him. I thought it was the ball.

Yeah, no, he's a good, he's a good, he's the other guy. I, he's probably a better player, but Clemens is more of a steroid guy. Yeah. I mean, he just got so angry. He's such a steroid guy. Yeah. He got so angry.

Okay, PFT. I'm going to go with Vince McMahon. Had him on my list. I had him on my list. Yeah. Vince. And he also did the butt sealing where he just let everybody else use steroids. Yeah. He didn't care. He just was so fucking roided out that when he like the attitude era, it was crazy. Yep. Crazy. Okay. I'll go with someone different. Some may say best in the world. Best ever.

uh john jones yeah i had him on my list john jones the only thing about him is he did so many other drugs yeah he did but he did do so he did steroids also yes yes he's a lot of guys yeah he's everything he tried it all okay hank okay i have two yes there's a big one there there's a big one yeah is there yeah really big one is big in his name yep you would never pick him

But you could maybe save your draft. I will go. There's honestly two guys. Yeah, there's two guys. Actually, three. There's three guys. There's three guys you could pick. What about girl? Should we give Hank five picks? No. If he agrees to take Manny, Poppy, and Nomar.

No, I'll take Manny Ramirez. Oh, okay. Wow. Okay. That was the one I was debating with. The way he got caught was very funny. He was taking like a female fertility drug, right? Yeah. And they had a system. I think he just forgot. He said he took his wife's by mistake. No, but they had a system. They talked about it. The guy that did it, they had a system to kind of get by the testing. That was foolproof. Manny Ramirez just forgot.

and took it on the wrong day, came in, got tested, got busted. He took the pill on the wrong day? Yeah, because he was an idiot. And then I will go with LeBron James. Oh. Interesting pick. Interesting. Very interesting. That's fun. That's a fun one. Hater of the year, Hank. Hater of the year. Probably you're not going to get any LeBron fans, but there are many. LeBron sexuals are not going to like that one. I mean, how is he not on steroids?

I'm not debating that. I'm just saying I'm not throwing a flag. That's probably an honorable. Yeah, I mean, that's probably an honorable mention. Yeah, I have a pick that I don't want to hurt our future chance of having him back on. Julian Edelman. No, I know where you're going. And I would take this. Yeah, I will take this if you don't. All right, fine. I will.

Peyton Manning's wife. Yep. That was my fourth pick. I had him. All alleged. All alleged. I had Peyton Manning's wife. That was going to be that. I almost took it 1-1, to be honest. I thought about it 1-1. That was going to be my last pick. Yeah. Yep. Good pick. Thank you. Makes me feel better that everyone else would have done it. Yep. People forget. Alleged. Yep. But yeah, that was a hilarious story. Very funny. And we're not saying Peyton did it.

No, no, his wife. His wife is a steroid guy. His wife was coming back from a very bad neck injury. Yep. Wanted to win a Super Bowl. Wanted to win a second one. Okay. This is my last pick? Yeah. I'm going to take Secretariat.

I knew you were going to. Secretariat, some would say the greatest athlete of all time. Yeah. But its heart was like three times too big. We've documented that tirelessly on this show. Secretariat definitely on steroids. Randy Moss, white Randy Moss, agreed chances are very, very high that Secretariat was doing steroids. Yes. Dirty horse. That's why Flightline's the GOAT. Yep. Flightline is the GOAT. Okay, Max, your last pick.

I really wanted Peyton Manning's wife. That's upsetting to me. Oh, wow. Clip that. There is another wife, but you already... No, who? You already... You could get the couple. Oh, no. Roger Clemens' wife. No, I don't need that. That was not as famous of a story, although there was the picture shoot. There's a... By the pool? Yeah, there's a big one out there. I mean...

I'll just go with Big Papi, but I don't know what you're thinking. I was thinking Tiger Woods. Did he? I mean, you could make the argument. I just went all baseball, which I hate, but whatever. All right, so Hank, let's play a game where we'll do honorable mentions. Tell us which ones you wouldn't take over Brian Cushing. Okay. All right. Jared Karabas. Terrible pick. Okay. Billy Football.

You'd rather have. Nah. Yeah. Liver King. Liver King's a good one. I thought about. Taylor LeJuan. Nah. He's not. He's pop. No one knows. Hulk Hogan. I had Hulk Hogan. I thought about it. Yeah. Decent. But I'd still rather have Brian Cushing. What about Dr. Dre? Didn't even know he was on steroids. What about. I actually think when I think football steroids, Bill Romanowski.

You're old. Okay. Oh, yeah, that's right. He had a suitcase. I thought about it. He broke the fucking face. I should have went Stallone last. Stallone. I had Ivan Drago. Yeah, but there's nothing wrong with wrestlers or actors taking steroids. We're not saying there's anything wrong with anyone taking steroids. No, I know, but it's like it's... What about the Boz? When you think steroids, you think of Rule Breakers, not just guys like a Jack. Would you take the Boz over Brian Koshy? I don't know.

Tony Mandrick? Nope. You don't think of Schwarzenegger when you think of steroids? Oh, I definitely do. I think he's just jacked. Okay. Joe Rogan? I'm going to come. Joe Rogan was another one that I thought about. Would you take Joe Rogan over? Burt Kreischer? Nope. Nope. Thomas Goura? Brian Cushing's a good pick. When you see the name Brian Cushing, you instantly think steroids. Busta Rhymes?

Is he on steroids? Yeah, he's fucking swore, man. CT. You sound like CT's a good one. Yeah, CT is a good one. Also, what's his name? Wes. Yep. Wes was a fucking classic steroid user. He was a skinny-ass fuck, and then he came back, roided out that one season. Said he had over... 100 companies. He had 100 companies, and then someone figured out he was just like... He just invested in a mutual fund. Yeah? So he owned technically 100 companies? Yeah.

Yeah. Eric Gagne. He was a good one just because he was such a fucking head case. His name translates to I win. Yeah. DeAndre Hopkins. Doesn't pop. I like Brian Cushing's a good pick. Okay. Macho Man. Randy Savage. All wrestlers are on it. Chris Benoit.

I thought about Benoit. Yeah. That's a tough one. That's a tough one. That does not, you don't want to, you don't want to vote. You don't want to vote on that guy. Undeniable. Undeniable steroid guy. Yeah, for sure. Uh,

Ben Johnson, the runner? Yeah. To be honest, did you know that I had no idea about anything of Chris Benoit until our coworker, Mike Greer, wore a t-shirt that had his name on it? Yeah. I can believe that. I had no idea of any of that story. I bought a shirt for one of my friends one time, a Chris Benoit cross-faced crippler shirt. Yeah. And I thought it was funny. And then we both realized he's never going to wear it. No. Yeah, never. Never.

One of my personal favorites, Ryan Braun, because Aaron Rodgers said he bet a year's salary that Ryan Braun was clean. That was awesome. That's a good one. They owned a restaurant together. Rafael Palmeiro. Yeah. Just because he testified in front of Congress and he pointed his finger and he said, let me be very clear. And then it turns out they did it. Brady Anderson is another one that wouldn't play on the graphic, but one of my favorites because he hit like...

I think he hit 210 home runs and 50 in one year. Yeah. And it was literally like 18, 18, 18, 50, 18. He played 15 years and a quarter of his home runs came in one year. Yep. Jules. Jules. I had Jules on my list. Yeah. Jules is on my list too. I'm not going to say the person I was about to say. What were you going to say? Because it's speculative.

Who? It's a recurring guest on the show. Very nice guy. Oh, no. Very, very nice guy. Text it to me. Jerry? I'll text it to you. Jerry is on the worst steroids of all time if he's on steroids. Yeah. Jimmy Garoppolo. Who? I forgot Jimmy G just got busted for using PEDs. Yeah. Those were some really bad PEDs. Yeah. Blake? No. No. Come on. Brooks? No. No. He would never do that. I'm trying to think who else I have on my list.

Most of my names are off. I didn't have many. Who was it? Nah, he didn't do it. He probably didn't do it. I'm so confused. Carl Lewis. Was he? Carl Lewis won three gold medals. I think he won the 100-meter dash three Olympics in a row. And then got adult braces. That'd be 12 years. And then he got the adult. No one can win the Olympics three years in a row on the 100-meter dash. Adult braces.

We didn't both do it? Probably, but he's a freak. Tom Fornelli. Yes, Tom Fornelli. Yeah, he does them. Does steroids. For sure does them. Have you seen his balls? Like Tic Tacs. Good list, though. I feel good about it. Very good. You feel good about it? Who are you here for again, Hank?

Lance Armstrong, Brian Cushing, great pick. Manny Ramirez, LeBron. It's a good list. Hank is for sure going to tweet out a video of Brian Cushing bashing his skull tomorrow morning. Or just like the Starbucks cup. Is this for chicks? Yeah. All right, good Mount Rushmore. Good show, boys. We'll do an open-ended one on Wednesday.

Yeah. Get back to the open-ended ones. Tweet us any open-ended Mount Rushmore's you want us to do. Those are the fun ones. This was a good one, though. This was a good one. Good one to get back on track. All right. Good show, boys. Numbers. Max, have you ever gotten the lottery ball machine? I've gotten the numbers. 20. 17. 6. 3. 8. 42. 99. 21. 79. Love you guys.

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