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On today's part of my take, we've got football and a lot of it. Week 16 in the NFL. Some pretty big results. The Chiefs keep rolling. The Commanders take down the Eagles.

We had the Vikings continue their path to controlling their destiny to the one seed. We're also going to talk some college football because we don't have a show Wednesday. We'll be back on Friday for a preview of week 17, but we're going to have to talk college football playoffs as well. And we're going to start with fastest two minutes, all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. It's the most wonderful time of the year.

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We start in Kansas City where Patrick Swayze Mahomes said pain don't hurt as he bounced off Texan defenders for a first half score on a bum ankle. Xavier, we are not worthy, we're scum, we suck was the opposite of that as he said game on Garth as the Chiefs come down the home stretch of the season. The Texans fought hard but CJ can't read cloud coverage through two picks spoiling the upset bid as Kareem Bergen Fish and Hunt Club said man

What murder? What murder? As the Chiefs continue killing their competition. Chiefs 27, Texans 19. We go over to Baltimore where Najee, I see Harris, I see France. I dumped a log of shitsburg in my underpants, had a costly fumble, and Ben hooked on scrotix, gave Russell Wilson some very difficult reads, mixing up his L's and W's.

The Ravens' tight end touchdown duel was the answer to the question of what Air Force base is closest to MNT Bank Stadium. Like Lee Andrews, Derrick Henry VIII took the Steelers for a pride while TJ turned down for what? Got outplayed by little John Harbaugh, seeing the ball downfield giving shot, shot, shot, shot, shot, shots to everybody! And

And let us be the first to wish you all a very Lamar-y Christmas as the Ravens roll Baltimore 34, Pittsburgh 17. Over to Sunday in Indianapolis where Jonathan Taylor Swift coming off a game where he was called the anti-hero decided to shake it off and tell the haters, look what you made me do as he ran to all the blank spaces on Sunday amassing 218 yards on the ground and three touchdowns.

Rudolph, the backup QB, made some very shitty throws. Remember when Miles Garrett assaulted him? I would even say he blows. Colts 38, Titans 30. To Carolina, where we say, Merry Christmas to all and to all a Shug night, as the Cards' playoff chances are on death row in this matchup of the two shortest QBs, Chubacca

Chuba Indian in the Hubbard has turned into a real young adult running for two touchdowns and the game-winning score. Dave Panama Canales says it's not so easy to travel from west to east as the Panthers get their fourth win on the season. The Panthers 36, the Cardinals 30. We head now to D.C. where Max was on scene for the Eagles and Commanders.

We head to Landover, Maryland, where Jalen got hurt and was replaced by Kenny Let's Just Kick It, who did a great job of leading field goal drives all game long.

Hey, Braden, turn in your man card for being a pussy who couldn't kick the ball into the end zone one time today and allowed the commanders to start at the 40 on every fucking possession. With a chance to win the game late, Devontae Smithy Elliott said, Is it third down? Let me work it. Put my hands up, drop it, and reverse it. Ball's yours, Mickey Wicky Mania. Ball's yours, Mickey Wicky Mania.

Commander's 36. Eagle's 33. Thanks, Max. We now head to the Meadowlands where Memes was there for a great game between the Jets and the Rams. It met Life Stadium. The Jets tried to breeze deck the halls with boughs of holly, but it turned into the nightmare before Christmas for Jets superfan Fireman Ed as he wasn't shown on the Jets' Jumbotron not one time.

Ike I ran, Ike I ran so far away. Ike I ran, Ike I ran all night and day just to get away for 122 yards and a touchdown. Tyler Higbee said, I'm pouring honey on you, goat, as he walked into the end zone for a go-ahead score. Joshua Playboard Cardi said he wasn't going outside today to seal the Rams' victory for a field goal.

with a field goal. Rams 19, Jets 9. Thanks memes. In Chicago where Bears fans just want to be put in their mccaskets and go to die, the Lions decided to clown them one last time. Hey Teej, remember that song you just said? I remember that song, boom. Shot, shot, shot, shot, shot, shots, everybody! As it was shots at Jamison as Williams scored an 80-yard touchdown and Bears fans want a shot to the head.

Talking suicide. In the third quarter, Jared Goff goes back to passing. Fumble! Just kidding. He did a fake fumble because Ben Johnson has the bag deeper than the Mariana Trench, someplace I'd like to be right now. The Lions 34, the Bears 17.

To all our listeners, lock the door, get the lotion out, and get nice and comfortable. Because it's men's sea time. As the Vikings head out west to Seattle, Randy Jackson Smith Najigma said, that's going to be a Gino for me, dog, as he scored to tighten the game before halftime. Justin Timberlake Jefferson probably going to be popping a few bottles of Patron, vacationing in the Samptons with Darnold stacking up first downs.

reminding fans at home and Long Island police officers that the yellow line is not official. The Vikings, 27. The Seahawks, 24. We finish in Western New York where Hank is on the scene for the Bills and Patriots. Or the Patriots and the Patriots. And whoa, in Buffalo, it was Draco season with the book bag May who started the scoring early with a touchdown to every kiss begins with K. Sean Booty.

Nice. Double jump dogger cookie. Scored twice. And Teron Burgundy Johnson had a very important announcement, and he needs all of you to stop what you're doing at once and listen. Fumble recovery touchdown. And no one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills. 24. Patriots, 21. Standing on the corner, Jameis Winston Cuyahoga. Such a fine sight to see.

It's DTR. Won't make your pee-pee hard, cause you'll never see any TDs. Come on, Cincy. You're looking frisky. Please don't jerk around PMT like you were Mency. The Bengals 24, the Browns 6. And that is Fastest Two Minutes for Week 6.

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Okay, week 16 in the books as we watch the second half of the Bucks-Cowboys, which we'll recap at the end. Cowboys-Cooper Rush. Might be... Is Cooper Rush...

A franchise quarterback? Are the Cowboys better with Cooper Rush? I don't know. Mike McCarthy's saving his job right before Christmas. So we got a lot of ball to talk about, boys. We had Saturday football. Yep. Hank, did you watch it? Did you see it? Yeah, sure did. We had Saturday football. We got Sunday football. It's just awesome that finally we get football on Saturdays now. Yeah, we finally get it. And we're going to talk a little college football because, reminder, we do not have a show on Wednesday. It's Christmas Day. We'll be back on Saturday.

on Friday. That's going to be our schedule for the next two weeks. Also, I have an hour-long doc on Thursday, though, on YouTube. Okay. So a little extra. Here we go. That's huge. That's huge. So, yeah, it will be Monday, Friday for the next two weeks during the holidays. But let's get into it. Saturday football, Chiefs 27, Texans 19,

The Kansas City Chiefs are going to do it again. They're going to win the Super Bowl. They are 14-1, and everything is rounding into shape exactly as we expected and exactly as they always planned. Xavier Worthy is getting targeted. I think he had 14 touches.

Hollywood Brown is back. Yeah, the offense looks legitimately good now. Yeah, their defense is still like is, you know, the secondary is not great, but they still make big time plays in the fourth quarter. It just felt like they needed whenever they need a sack or pressure that second half. They were all over CJ Stroud. They're going to do it. I just it's crazy, but they're rounding into form between Hollywood Brown, Xavier Worthy, DeAndre Hopkins, Travis Kelsey, Gray, and

It's like they can go anywhere they want with the ball. Yeah. At any point. They can beat you in whatever way they want to at that given point. They just have so many options right now, and they're looking good. And the game's getting... Winning is getting boring for Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. Who's yawning on the sidelines. Yeah, they still can't block for Patrick Mahomes, but it doesn't matter. Yeah. Because his ankle is not hurt. He ran for a 15-yard touchdown in the first half. You're like, oh...

This guy's not hurt at all. He said that his plan was to not run, and then he got in the game. He's like, fuck it. I'm going to run. Yeah, because I think he's got a freak body that just can be contorted in all different directions, and he'll be fine. And he bounces back. He's Wolverine. This is now their 14th win this season without scoring 30 points. That is now an official NFL record. Yes. Second place.

The team they passed was the Frankfurt Yellow Jackets in 1925, led by Punk Berryman. You remember Punk Berryman? Yeah, Punk Berryman. Punk Berryman. They had 13 wins without scoring 30 points. The crazier stat with the no game over 30, it's 31 points because they did score 30, I think, against the Panthers. But the teams that have not scored 31 points this season in a game are the Kansas City Chiefs, 14-1.

The New York Giants, 2-13. The Las Vegas Raiders, 3-12. And the New England Patriots, 3-12. That's the company. Yep, that's what you're in. Yeah, the stat was most wins with 30 or fewer points. They're just doing stuff just for fun. It's not even like... I mean, that's a stat. The Chiefs don't have to score 30 points. They're proving that they can do whatever they want. And...

Yeah, I really do. Like, I watched that game and I was like, yeah, this is, they're rounding into form exactly like Xavier Worthy, just like Rasheed Rice last year. The beginning of the year, you know, he had that first game where he has that electric touchdown and everyone's like, how could you let Xavier Worthy fall to the Chiefs? And then he has a stretch where he didn't look that great and they didn't really feature him much and he would get maybe one or two catches a game.

And yesterday it was 11 targets. And it was, I know he didn't have like crazy eye-popping numbers, but he had seven catches. He had another three rushes. He had a touchdown. They're just rounding into form and they've got everything cooking. I feel like they're practicing getting him in the ball a lot right now because they might dial back on that a little bit in the playoffs, but they'll go to him a few times a game and they want to know that he's ready when it happens. And he'll be ready. And the Chiefs, yeah.

Congrats to the Chiefs. Congrats to the Chiefs. Three-peat. As for the Texans, that game sucked a lot for them. Not only did they lose, but Tank Dell, horrific injury. That was brutal, brutal, brutal, especially because he just felt like he was rounding into form after his season-ending injury last year. They also lost Jimmy Ward and Shaq Mason, and their offense just...

It continues like CJ Stroud struggled and Joe Mixon couldn't get running. And I just, I don't have any, any hopes for the Texans to make any type of impact on the AFC playoffs. No, that was a tough, tough loss when tank down went down. But we should say,

Tough motherfucker. He held on to the ball after getting his kneecap dislocated. Yes. And you could tell it was serious. And it happened as he was catching the ball. Simultaneously, his knee gets bent to the side by some friendly fire.

And he hangs on to it as he rolls over, as he's calling the cart onto the field. Unreal. He's at the hospital now, and he's going back to Houston. So that's good. Yeah, that is good. But it's going to be a long... It's a very long recovery. Yeah. It also, just as a side note, Zach Miller did catch it, because that did happen. Remember when he basically went sideways? You hear the news right away, Tank Dale has to go to the hospital. You're like, oh, shit. I think that's because of artery, and they got to make sure the emergency surgery...

So yeah, really, really tough. CJ Stroud was obviously shaken up by it. And yeah, I don't know where the Texans are in the playoffs. And they're now down to just Nico Collins in terms of their weapons that they started the season with, which sucks. And yeah, I don't really know. Their defense is still good, but not elite and good.

Yeah, there's just going to be a bummer to watch because you're like, man, that season everyone had hopes that they could be one of those dark horse Super Bowl teams and it kind of just fell apart for them. And CJ Stroud has had a sophomore slump. I don't know what D'Amico is going to do. Just tell him reimagine yourself as being a run first team. Just ground and pound. Yeah, but they can't even run the ball all the time. Like Mixon wasn't able to run the ball in this game. I don't know what they're going to do, but it is a bummer.

Yeah, total bummer. But yeah, the Chiefs are going to win three in a row. Does anyone feel differently? Like, I don't want them to. I'm going to be rooting for the Bills to beat them. I think they will. But I watched this game and I was just like, yeah, everything's kind of just starting to click for them. And it's, yeah, they're just going to do it again. Yeah. We'll see you on Christmas. And I'll just be like, how did that happen? See you on Christmas, Patty Mahomes. 14-1 is crazy. I mean, I know that there's been...

A lot of close calls, but still, it's hard to win in this league. And they're getting Harrison Bucker back and healthy. He looked okay. Why does he do the thing where he falls now after every kick? I don't know. It has something to do with his follow-through. Yeah. Like making sure he gets enough –

hip flexibility on it? I don't know. Very bizarre. Very bizarre. Also, the Chiefs, the other part is their defense is starting to take the ball away, which I think I mentioned this stat a couple weeks ago where they were third to last in takeaways. They had 10 total through 14 weeks. They've had eight in the last two weeks. So it's all starting to work and it's all going to just...

I don't really know what else to say. The Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl. Congrats to the Chiefs. Yeah, it's inevitable. Yeah, and the fans can post a meme and be like, oh man, this game's going to suck. Just kidding, we won. You guys will just figure out a way. You'll figure out a way. No matter what happens, there is a path for you, and you will find that one path. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. Okay, the other Saturday game, Ravens 34, Steelers 17.

This was basically... I felt like it was a Freaky Friday situation where the Ravens and Steelers switched bodies because it felt like the Ravens were playing Mike Tomlin Steelers football in that they were getting opportune...

turnovers. Lamar didn't play out of his mind good, and the Russ fumble basically changed the game. They were going in 7-7. Russ is going in. All he has to do is slide at the two-yard line, instead tries to jump and be a hero, fumbles, and then the Ravens turn around and go on a 98-yard drive, and that was it. That was tough because I thought Russ was going to score on that, too. Yeah. He got in the open field, and then, yeah, just unlucky play for Pittsburgh, and then you couldn't do anything about Derrick Henry.

No. I don't know what kind of angles Minka Fitzpatrick was taking against Derrick Henry, but they were the wrong ones. Yeah, Derrick Henry was just an absolute... He was a hammer and the Steelers were the nail on Saturday. And it was... He had 100... What did he have? 166 yards, I believe? 162 yards. He's the fifth player in NFL history to have four 1,500...

rushing yard seasons, which I always feel like running stats, like passing stats have gotten out of hand. Like running stats, those count because they used to just run the ball all the time. So it's Edrin James has four, Walter Payton has four,

Eric Dickerson has four. Barry Sanders has five. And I feel like we're seeing more of the good Derek and less of the bad Derek, where he's slow around the line of scrimmage and gets hit for a loss. Yeah. Because that was the formula in Tennessee for a while. It's like, just keep feeding him. Eventually, we'll figure out a way to break him on a long one. And then a lot of the times, he just would have gains of like one yard, no yards, minus one yard.

In Baltimore, it feels like they figured out how to get him on the edge and get him even going downhill before he hits the line of scrimmage. Yeah. And then good luck tackling him if you don't take the perfect angle on him. I feel like, yeah, this is like the thing they were missing last year. Yeah, it looks pretty good in Baltimore. Now, the Steelers had some, they're a little bit banged up in the secondary. Yeah. That was tough. Joey Porter getting hurt early. That didn't do him any favors. And they are getting Pickens back.

Yes, for the Christmas Day game. Yeah. Who, he's their entire offense, if you listen to some of our friends. I mean, it looks like they don't know how to pass the ball downfield without pickings. Yeah. I mean, that Russ pick, too, Marlon Humphrey, who's been incredible this year, that was also the game. Russ didn't play. He had to play clean football. The Steelers had to go into that game.

doing what they usually do against the Ravens where they basically just trade field position, get a couple fumbles where the Ravens put the ball on the ground, but the Steelers just didn't recover it. Yeah. And get to the end of the game and find a way to make one more play. And Russ just didn't keep them in that spot where they could be like, oh, we're just a TJ Watt strip sack away from winning this game. Yeah. Stupid thing I noticed after this game was over. It was like 30 minutes after the end of the game.

Kyle Van Noy, he posts on Twitter a picture of him just de-cleaning Russell Wilson. And he says, like, it's hunting season. And it was such a sick picture. That's got to be an underrated part about being an NFL athlete. It's like right after a game is over, you get to look at all these incredible pictures of you doing superhuman shit. Yeah. And be like, yep, that's me. Look at me. I'm sideways. Look how sick I look. Hitting the fuck out of Russell Wilson and making him look like a rag doll.

Yeah, me smashing some guy. Like just having a professional photographer follow you around. Instead of like here at Barstool, the worse you look, those are the ones that get posted. Yeah, Hank just tries to find the worst pictures of you and post it over and over. Or memes us to death. You have a staff of people who are assigned to find the best looking pictures of you that they can get their hands on and amplify those to the masses. You looking like a Greek god in action. Yeah.

Yeah, I agree. That's why I want to play in the NFL one day. We need to hire a personal photographer that just makes us look good. They'll be corrupted soon. Because we literally have the opposite. I mean, I don't know. Shane with the YouTube thumbnails, does he edit us to make us look ugly? It's crazy. We don't even look like ourselves half the time. He has a filter where he can add 30 pounds to you. Why? Wouldn't it be? Do you think it's? I feel like if you're scrolling, you'd want us to not look like.

We don't look well half the time. Yeah. I know that there's... Listen, when we look bad naturally, that's funny, but he distorts us to make us look weird. He's not going to like this discourse. But it's the truth, is it not? Is it the truth? Does he do that or no? There's times I see myself and I'm like, do I look like that? No.

I look like an alien. Yeah, at one point, I think he added 40 pounds to my body and he drew circles under my eyes. Yeah, or like I have like a weird, yeah, a smile I've never done before. I think he's just like a sicko who's just like, oh, it's not a bad one. He just likes to see us in the weirdest positions. But yeah, you're right, PFT. We need to get a photographer who does that for us. Yeah, look at this. I don't even know. Yeah, you're making the little yikes face. We're both...

Bad. Bad picture. The Skip Bayless thumbnail. All time. Yeah. Somehow Skip looks awesome compared to us. I think they look good. Thank you. I appreciate that. By the way, the Steelers still can win out and win the AFC North. So they have the record...

It's versus common opponents. They have a better record versus common opponents. So they control their own destiny. Now, will they? Because they have to play the Chiefs and the Bengals. But that wasn't for the AFC North. It obviously makes it a little more difficult.

But they absolutely still control their own destiny. You know, as crazy as this is going to sound, because the last two recaps we just did, I kind of like the Steelers on Christmas. Yeah, I like them on Christmas. I do not like them in the playoffs. I have them in my Texans category of team that I'm not expecting to be in the AFC Championship game. Yeah, but I like them on Christmas. Yeah, I do. But it's also the Chiefs. Yeah, that's true. And the Chiefs. But it's Tomlin as a dog at home. Tomlin, dog at home, Christmas...

Everybody in Pittsburgh is going to be at the game. You're not anybody unless you're at that game in Pittsburgh. That's a fact. That's a fact. All right. Anything else on this game?

I wish these teams would just play all the time. It is fun, although this was the rare one that wasn't close. This is a blowout. Yeah, Russell Wilson didn't really help us because, like I said, I was expecting this game to be close down the end and the Steelers would be able to have a chance to win it, and Russ kind of ruined that with his fumble and his pick six. The pick six was the big part of it. Yeah. Well, I mean, the fumble was they were going to go 14-7. Yep. Fumbles happen, though. Fumbles do happen. Okay. Okay.

So before we get to Sunday, shout out Scott Hanson. He did mention me and us for the witching hour, but also shout out Scott Hanson. He's now changed...

The tagline to seven hours of red zone football starts now. Yeah. His apology that he issued on Saturday was great. First of all, it started out with a football in the camera. Yeah. Letting you know who you're dealing with here. And then he took ownership. He said he wrestled with the concept of whether or not to say –

commercial free football before he knew that there would be commercials and i i can only imagine what an internal struggle struggle that must have been for scott hansen um so he discussed that he apologized which i appreciated as a football fan yes i think some people still know how business is done the red zone is one of those entities so thank you scott for acknowledging it appreciate it but can we maybe just lose the commercials they put you in a bad position scott

They put him in a terrible position. They don't care about you, Scott. If they cared about you, they wouldn't have marched you out there with a gun to your head and made you say that. Yeah. It was very funny how serious he took it, which I liked it. He cares that much. Yeah, I want him to take it extremely seriously. Yeah, he lost sleep this week. Yeah. That's a fact about the fact that people are like, you lied to us about commercial free football. Okay, so Sunday, Commanders 36, Eagles 33.

Who would like to start? Actually, no, I want to start real quick. Okay, you can start. I'm going to start, and then I'm going to kick it to you. Okay. I'm going to start with just this. Is that the gorillas? That was a cackle. Actually, that was me.

You guys are hypocrites. FSU Brando made a remix of that. You guys are hypocrites. I love that clip. I love that clip. We still lose. It's either I'm too scared and I'm not confident enough or I talk some shit. Wait, wait, wait. Max, we'll get to you in a second. Or I talk some shit. Oh, Max. I just wanted to play the clip. It was funny. It was a funny clip. That's a funny clip. I get to rebuttal that. I get to rebuttal that. I liked that clip. What was that clip? Rebuttal what? That was Max laughing. After they lost? No, probably after one of our five turnovers that we had. Yeah.

Yeah, 5-1 turnover for the Eagles today. PFT, I mean, Max and PFT, go ahead. Here's some analysis. Number one, great hit by Max. He hit a plus 220 Commander's Moneyline part. This is just a lie. Moneyline bet that you put in. This is just a lie. Max put in a Moneyline bet on the Commanders. I was pissed about the drop. I immediately said, fuck, this is the Falcons are going to lose this game. Bet it and then cashed out within maybe 30 seconds.

So you keep saying that, and I did not hit a bet. Max made a great bet. I lost. I did not make a bet. You made a great bet. No, you didn't make it. Yeah, you made it. Sick, dude. You made a great bet. Sick. That's so cool of you. Keep going. Okay. Fuck face. Here's some stats.

uh jalen hurts to aj brown zero completion zero yards oh kenny pickett to aj brown eight completions 97 yards a tutty and we can tack another 60 yards on there for pass interferences that he drew so the chemistry i'd say is like best friend status between kenny pickett and aj brown um

The Eagles pretty much wrapped up the division, so that's good for them. And Max, it's tough to beat a team three times in a season, so that could be good if we end up playing you again in the playoffs because we already beat you once, so then now it's like, oh, you don't have the pressure of having to beat the Commanders three times. But as several smart people on this podcast have said, everybody gets injured. Everyone gets nicked up this time of year. It's not like the Detroit Lions are the only team in the NFL that's injured.

next man up got to play through it injuries can't be an excuse and so someone really smart said that so i wanted to make sure to amplify that we're a national sports podcast injuries happen next man up i don't think the kenny pickett is the reason the eagles lost that game i think if jalen hurts plays the whole game the eagles definitely win that game but i don't think kenny pickett is the reason they lost that game does that yeah that makes sense yeah that makes sense

Braden Mann has to get the ball in the end zone. The commander started at midfield every single possession. Luke McCaffrey. Every single possession. Okay. I don't understand. Like, that is a huge thing. Devontae Smith has to catch that football, and the defense can't give up 22 points in the fourth quarter. Yeah. That's what it comes down to. Yeah. None of that has to do with Kenny Pickett. Right. Yeah. And listen...

Jaden Daniels was fucking awesome today. Jaden Daniels threw a fourth quarter pick with two and a half minutes to go. That would have lost the game if one of the best receivers in football caught the fucking football. Then you know what he did? He went down and he threw his fifth touchdown pass. He's a rookie that makes very good plays and also very bad plays. Yeah, he made some rookie mistakes. He had two bad picks today, but he's still fucking awesome. If Devontae Smith catches that ball, you are sitting here talking, Jaden Daniels is a rookie. I wish that he didn't make that rookie mistake.

Are we going to do the ifs game? I'm just saying, like, you like to just nitpick plays, but he's a rookie that makes good plays and he makes bad plays. No, I always... He almost lost the game. I always say when he screws up... He should have lost the game. He threw two bad picks today. If Devontae Smith catches that ball, he lost the game. He threw two bad picks today, put them in a position where they could have lost, but guess what? Where they should have lost. And then he won the game. And Devontae, yes, correct. Their last drive was very good by him. But the drive before was very bad. And you can't... And you have to say both. Yeah. You have to say both. I'm saying both.

Bad pick. No, no, no, no. You didn't say both. I said both. Bad pick. It's true. He did say both. Bad picks. You didn't say both until he said both. He also had some dots.

Some downfield. Max is right. He was that little. You have to acknowledge the good with the bad. I fully admit his. You weren't going to until I said it. His picks today were bad. When the game was on the line. When it mattered. When it was on the line, he threw an interception with two and a half minutes to go. And when the game was on the line again. No, but the game was really on the line. The game wasn't on the line. Yes, it was.

No, because if it was on the line and he threw that pick, then we would have lost. That's true. Game wasn't on the line. I point back to BFC. It was getting close to the line. Okay, fine. Max, you lost to one seed today. Correct. It's fine. That hurts. Realistically, though, the way that the rest of the games played out, they probably weren't going to get it anyway. The Vikings beating the Seahawks.

The Vikings would have to lose the next two games. Well, no. If you had won today, the Vikings could have easily lost to the Packers and then beaten the Lions. Yes, that's the only exact scenario that could happen. No, it could have also been the Lions losing to the 49ers and then beating the Vikings.

It's not that crazy. Yeah, just one loss. You had a lot of ways to... Let's see how it shakes out. But odds are they weren't going to get the one seed anyway. No, that's not true. They were very much alive for the one seed. Odds are they weren't going to get the one seed anyway. Are you worried about the defense?

You have one bad game. It's the best defense in the NFL up for 13 weeks, and then you have one bad game. But you got to admit the bad with the good. Correct. And this is a bad game. Correct. 22 points in the fourth quarter. You want to remind me how I started off this segment? One bad game. You want to remind them? I said the defense cannot let up 22 points in the fourth quarter. Let's just go around the circle and keep saying stupid fucking shit.

All right, so I guess I have to talk about what I don't like about my own team because that's how we should properly appreciate a win on this podcast. Is betting against your team when the game's almost over? Is that stupid shit? Hank, you will bet against your team whenever. Never. You don't give a fuck about your team. I would never. You are watching your games wanting to lose. I'm not betting against them. You are watching your games wanting to lose. Hank is at least consistent with that. I would expect that from Hank. I didn't expect that from you. You're better than that.

That was a moment where I was like, this is going to lose. Maybe if I bet on it, they won't lose. I was putting that money in. Why'd you cash out? Because I got bullied. I always get bullied. You don't always get bullied. There was a point when Kenny got into the game and Max's initial reaction was,

I hope Kenny plays well, but not really that well. Do you regret that? I regret that. Because you were saying... I regret that. You didn't think that Jalen... That I will... You didn't think Jalen could take it. He couldn't take a little pressure. No, not Jalen. I just didn't... I just hate listening to the fucking media. You are the media. No. We are all the media with X. Other media. So Kenny Pickett not... Do you think you win that game if Jalen Hurts plays the whole game? I don't know. Yeah.

Ball bounces a couple weird ways. Who knows? I'll say no. Also, another thing we have to talk about. Two things we have to talk about. Okay. Two things we have to talk about. Please. C.J. Gardner-Johnson getting thrown out of the game for being mean. For words, yeah. For words. Has anyone ever seen that in the NFL? No.

Hank has. Number two. Hank said he has. I guess Jalen Hurts has a concussion. We don't know what words. I guess Jalen Hurts has a concussion. The NFL needs to be consistent about when they're taking players out because there are hits that are so much worse than what happened to him that never get addressed. He gave thumbs up. He gave thumbs up, went to the medical tent, put his helmet back in to get back in the game, and then someone from the NFL took him out. What?

Explain this. Explain Josh Allen against the Texans. Oh, you have this pulled up. Oh, you have this pulled up. I get it. Player safety. Oh, okay. Make it make sense. Make it make sense. Make it make sense.

Memes was like, the Josh Allen thing you got to talk about. Five seconds before he started recording. But did Josh give thumbs up? No. Hold on, Max. You don't know what they said. They could have said, hey, Jalen, do you have a concussion? And he gave thumbs up. Like, yeah, I do. Thumbs up.

The C.J. Gardner-Johnson getting ejected for being mean. I got you there. We don't know what. I got you there. That's just so dumb. It doesn't. It's not dumb. You don't think they could have said, hey, Jalen, do you have a concussion? And he went, yeah. He doesn't deserve a response. Thumbs up. Yeah, I do. He doesn't deserve a response. And we don't know what C.J. said. We don't know the words that he said.

Do you want to come out of the game? Maybe they asked him, do you have a concussion? Jalen, do you want to come out of the game? You feel like you have a concussion? Maybe they asked CD Deuce, hey, CJ, do you have a concussion? He was like, yeah, and then they threw a flag. They're like, okay, I'll kick you out because you're concussed. Where's he going?

Did he say where he was going? No, he just left. No, he just left. Jaden Daniels' last drive was awesome. Yeah, he had a few really good drives today. The legs were working. Not having Noah Brown out there is a pretty big impact. Although, hey, credit to Jamison Crowder, who's still very much in the league. Caught two touchdowns today. Yeah, Max, you're back? Yeah, I'm back. Okay. Where'd you go?

I just took a little pacing outside. Took a lap. What are they? The anger sharks? No, I was good. I was good. I should do that more often. Okay. That was just a quick time out. Quick time out. Sometimes I need a quick time out when you guys are just being so fucking dumb. I also feel like this loss was... I think if we're being honest here...

I think you had not even thought about the fact that the concussion spotter could have said, hey, Jalen, do you have a concussion? And they went, yes, thumbs up. Like that dawning on you crushed you because you realized everything you thought about the thumbs up was a lie.

Yes, I think I'm right. This loss was pretty much designed in the lab to piss Max off the most, the way that it went down. Because, yeah, kicking an impact player out for words, like two personal fouls on words, pretty crazy. I don't know what he said. I don't know what they were looking at. But the first one was nuts because...

He says something, then he gets punched in the face. Yeah. And then they throw a flag and they say, yeah, personal foul on C.J. Gardner-Johnson. Yeah. And it's like, wait, what happened there? Nobody knows exactly. But the ref was like right in between them. So I guess he heard something. But yeah, it feels like this was just designed to get Max the angers. As mad as possible. Good job, NFL. Yeah. No, Max got as mad as possible. I mean, I think Max here...

Something positive? I think you guys win that game easily with Jalen Hurts. Easily. The way Saquon could not run like he could run in the first quarter, first half, without Jalen Hurts in there. Because they basically can play Kenny Pickett completely different. They basically just said, we're going to make Kenny Pickett beat us. Correct. And Kenny Pickett, unfortunately, could not do that. But I don't think Kenny Pickett... Kenny Pickett did enough to win the game if Devontae Smith catches the ball. That's also a fact. That's why I'm not going to put this...

Blame on Kenny Pickett. Also, Saquon had a drop too. He did. And so did A.J. Brown. Yeah. Saquon had a drop? He had a drop, yeah. Because he's dropped a couple. Good defense by Bobby Wagner.

We should say that. It was good defense. Correct. Yeah. Also... So was the A.J. It was good defense by Lattimore. But the Devontae Smith, there was no one within three yards of him. Lattimore did not look that good today. A.J. Brown kind of abused him. Yeah. It was not looking great. He got a couple bad PIs, and he was getting cooked out there a little bit. Made me pump my brakes on Lattimore a little bit. Credit to you. Credit to me. Credit to you. That's huge. So, Max...

We might be on a collision course. There's a chance that the Commanders, what are they, 94% right now? Now I want you so bad. Oh. Okay. Oh, you want them. The way it shakes out. With Kenny or Jalen? With Jalen. Oh, okay. If Kenny. Well, because Kenny wasn't the reason you lost the game, so I didn't know if that was. He wasn't. It was more on their kickoff. Yeah, I thought maybe you were like, hey, we can beat him with Kenny, because that would be the ultimate revenge. I still think that I still would be confident if we had Kenny at home and a week to prepare.

Because if you're a man, you beat him with Kenny. No, I'm just saying, if you're a man, you beat him with Kenny. Yeah, I mean, the way that you're talking right now, a week to prepare with Kenny. I'll take that. I don't get the kickoffs. Unless they were trying to not put it. Your special teams is just bad. Bad, so bad. And it's one third of the game. That's a thing that will wear its ugly head. That's a thing. You got to be, what's the quote?

Two-thirds of the game? Two-thirds of the game is mental. A third of the game is Jalen Hurts not getting concussed. No, this isn't. Nope. It's a third of the game. The NFL didn't want Jalen Hurts to play today for some reason. You don't think so? They didn't want him to play? He thumbs up, and then he had his helmet on the sideline ready to go back in. What if they asked him, hey, what month is it? And he gave a thumbs up. I'm happy he's safe. Yeah, me too. I'm happy he's safe. Me too.

I'm happy you said it. Player safety. Yeah, player safety is important. But again, he might have just said, yeah, I have a concussion. Thumbs up. He didn't even think about that. So, Max, should Sirianni shave his head? Oh, yeah. Yeah. He should. He should. Old school. Also, huge weekend for the Commanders. Got RFK Stadium back as a site. That was like in the middle of the night on Friday, Saturday morning. That's huge. And then following it up with this. Listen, this is a game that we probably had no...

no right to win it looked like we don't apologize I'm not no I'm not gonna apologize we lost this game like five different times maybe more um so I'll take a win it's hard to win in the NFL it's hard to win in the NFL Max and okay so Max I'll take another shit on my team because apparently I have to do that uh

Dan Quinn, his time management at the end of the game was terrible. It was awful. But then Jaden said, doesn't matter because I'm Jaden Davis. I would actually argue that it was great. It ended up working out. Because you can't leave time for Kenny. No, you can't leave time for Kenny. It ended up working out perfectly, but I'm a process guy. Six seconds is actually maybe a little too much time for KP. Yeah. No, unfortunately, it was not enough time. All right, well, it's good that you're not yelling at us and getting angry.

I didn't get angry at all. No, not at all. I didn't get angry at all in this segment. So... This was a mature conversation between colleagues. Cause... Cause number one of the loss was your kickoff specialist not being able to reach the end zone. I was... I don't...

I was so mad about the kickoff team today. Every single time he brought it back to midfield. Every time. But give credit to Luke McCaffrey. I will. Give credit. Sure. And I'll give credit to your return team for blocking well. Yeah, thank you. But why couldn't he just put it in the end zone? Like we couldn't.

That last drive is a different drive if it's starting from the 25 instead of the 45. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Okay, well, congrats, PFT. 93% chance to make the playoffs now. Love it. And holy shit would it be great if you guys played. First time since 2012 that we've had 10 wins. And looking at a record like this, I believe that's the first time since 1991 that it's happened.

That's crazy. So it's been a long-ass time. Do you have any last words for Hank? Because you were very upset at Hank in the gambling cave as well. Hank's just a prick that just wants to be so annoying at all times. He just wants to exist? He just wants to be so... I was going to yell at PFT regardless. That had nothing to do with you. The clip in question, we could play it. I literally started the clip by saying, I just don't want drama. Ha ha ha!

You were being totally serious. No, he's been legit because he was talking about the Kenny Pickett. Oh, yeah, yeah. The Jalen Hurts thing. I just don't want drama in Philadelphia. I just want the Celtics to just collapse in the playoffs this year so badly. That's all I want. That's all I want. That's the only way you can hurt a sinner. Are you listening? I'm going to be sitting right next to you with my face right in your fucking grill.

as Jason Tatum just bricks a three that would have sent the team to the finals. Is this to the Sixers? The Sixers are dead. Damn. No, they're not. They can get to ten wins. No, the Sixers are dead. Now my sole goal is to just somehow have the Celtics lose. And look at your face when it happens.

Oh, not the Super Bowl. Not winning the Super Bowl. I'm talking about the NBA season. He's on to the NBA season. This loss ended at the end. No, no. You guys love putting words in my mouth. But congrats, Max. Second place in the NFC. Pretty good. That's also not true. Also, the laughing clip was incredible. I played that because it's a great clip. You laughing was very funny. I don't even remember what part of the game that was.

Yeah, I mean, we're supposed to... Yeah, I think it was after maybe the De'Ami Brown fumble. I think it was the Brian Robinson fumble. No, because the Brian Robinson fumbles were early. It was early. The laugh was early. Yeah, losing a game where you're 5-1 turnover battle is pretty crazy. It's hard to do. That's really hard to do. But Jay and Daniels is fucking awesome. Yeah. Except for those picks, which were bad. Not blaming Kenny. Not blaming Kenny on the loss, but if he could, like...

keep a drive to going together like a little bit longer, that would have been great. Max, you think that by the end of games, opponents actually like Jaden Daniels as a friend? It is crazy what he does. He spends like half the time between the plays talking to the other team and like joking around with them. And they're like laughing and shaking hands and playing grab ass. I feel like by the end of the game, they're like, fuck, I respect that dude. Like they kind of like him. Him and Jalen Carter were...

like boys during the game jalen carter is a mean guy yeah like why were they it probably took him out of the game a little bit yeah jayden's because he probably likes to play with a little bit of edge yeah and you and he's too nice they they were he was just dapping them up after like a good like pass rush he's a good play i hate that i hate that yeah but but what

If Devontae Smith just caught that ball, you would have hated that a little bit more. Is that what you meant when you said it was the Falcons game all over again? Yes. Oh. Because you remember Saquon dropped a wide-open pass that would have won the game? I do. Devontae Smith did that today. Now I'm thinking about it. And then the Falcons went down and scored with very little time left. That was Monday Night Football. That was Jason Kelsey night. Yeah. So that's what I was referring to. So if Saquon and Devontae Smith catch the ball, you're one seed.

Correct. Oh, yeah. Minimum. Both of those. If two of the best players in the league just catch a wide open ball to win the game. One seed. One seed. So now the Commanders-Falcons game next Sunday night. Big game. Very big game. Falcons-Commanders. Yeah. Well, not as much for you. No, it's big. But the Seahawks losing. I mean, even if you lose, the Seahawks have to win out. No, but it's a big game. Fuck, you still have six seed.

You still have six seed potential. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. For seeding, it's a massive game. Oh, okay. Yeah, I guess that is a big game. Oh, the Packers. That's because the Packers have him. I want your ass. The Packers are about to win. Yeah, but then if the Packers lose to the Vikings next week and we win out, then I think we get the six seed. You'd have them even if the Packers... Do you have the same record? I think so. The same record? I think so. Let's find that tiebreaker. I've been screwing around with the playoff thing that I have no idea what's up.

The tiebreakers all are very hard to figure out. So here's what I'll do. I'll put it. If the Saints win now both teams 10-5, it's got the commanders over the Packers if they're both 10-5. Oh. So I would assume that, yeah, if we can win out and the Packers can lose one game, then succeed, then we're looking at the Rams. Tiebreaker versus the commanders. Yeah, it says right there. Then we'd be going to the Rams. Wow. And then the Packers go into the link.

That would be scary. Max, now who would you rather play? I've already made that statement. Yeah. The Packers. No. Literally like 30 seconds ago. He wants you to play officially with Kenny. He said he wants your ass with Kenny. I would prefer Jalen Hurts, but even with Kenny, I would still. Yeah. Okay. All right. PFT, you want to rip a couple of ads? Good job, Max. You didn't get so, so mad. A couple times you got a little mad.

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That touchdown pass he made when he was falling down was so goddamn sick. And this was... We talked about this on Friday, but it was Joe Burrow versus DTR. And DTR should probably not be playing quarterback in the NFL. Probably not. Probably not. And then Joe Burrow... What did his teammates say about him? Like, that's not Batman that's...

That motherfucker's Superman? Yeah. T. Higgins said that, yeah. T. Higgins said he got knocked down by his own player and was able to throw the ball with his body horizontal, his knee on the ground. And it just feels like the Bengals... I mean, there was nothing the Browns could do, really, with DTR as their quarterback. They couldn't put together a drive. Well, I mean, the start of the game, they get a huge run from Jerome Ford. They get to goal line, and he fumbles on, like, the...

maybe the inch line. And it was like, all right, if you don't score there, it's not your day. And Joe Burrow, that was his seventh consecutive game

Three TD, 250 plus yard performance. That's the first quarterback ever to do that in the NFL. He now has 39 touchdowns, 4,229 yards. He leads the league in both. He's having an MVP season without the MVP because of the way the team is played.

But they're still alive. Also, Jamar Chase, I believe, will get the Triple Crown. I mean, I know he just eclipsed 1,500 yards. I feel like he has 100 touchdowns. What is he leading? He broke his own franchise record. He leads the NFL in receptions. He's got 108 receiving yards with 1,510 touchdowns.

And touchdown catches. So yeah, triple crown. So he's defeated everybody in the NFL, including himself. He beat all of his own records from last year. Yeah, and he's up four on the touchdowns. He's up a couple hundred yards. Yeah, it feels like he's going to get, I guess the only thing that could be close is receptions. But he's, I mean, he's been incredible. Yeah. And this is all...

This season is going to drive Bengals fans even crazier, although not dead again. Week 17 is going to be that game against the Broncos, which I believe is Saturday. Hank Saturday football will be massive because if they win that game now, they desperately need the Steelers to beat the Chiefs. The Steelers beat the Chiefs because the Chiefs will rest everyone. Although maybe they wouldn't because that would be I was thinking about it.

If the Chiefs win on Christmas Day and then they decide to rest their starters in week 18... Carson Wentz. That would be, I don't know the exact amount of days. I'm going to look at it right now because it feels like it would be a massive amount of days. It would be 1, 14...

I think it would be almost 25 days, 24 days that they would be resting. Rest versus rust? If they rested their starters and got the bye, that's a lot. That might be too much. Don't you agree? It's a lot because, well, that's also like a little mini bye for Andy Reid to cook on, though. He probably schemed something up in that Week 18 game, even with his backups. True, true. But that feels like that would be...

a shitload of time to, to having everyone sit out. If my homes is, is dinged up at all after the Steelers game, they'll just sit them anyway. Yeah. If they win that game, either way, the point is, uh, the Bengals are still alive going into week 17, which at many points in the season thought wouldn't be possible. We said they were dead like five times, a million times. And, uh,

I don't know. There's nothing really to say about the Browns season because DTR is playing right now, so it's not even watchable. Miles Garrett, I guess say this, Miles Garrett, the first player ever to get 100 sacks before turning 29 years old. That's pretty cool. Pretty good. And he also probably wants to trade. And you know what?

I say trade him. Dude, I don't know why anyone would have any problem with that when he's such an incredible player and he's like, yeah, I don't really want... I'm about to be 29. Don't really want to be here for a rebuild.

because if I'm here for a rebuild by the time I'm like 33 and we're rebuilding, I don't know if I'll still have it. I mean, most of his career has been for a rebuild. That's what's so infuriating. He should not – I wouldn't want to do that again if I were him. Hell no. Hell no. Set him free. Yeah. I would love to see the Bengals somehow crash the party. It's going to be – I think they still need the Colts to lose and the Dolphins to lose, so –

They still need a lot of help. But again, they're still playing for something, which is cool because that's really what it was like. I want to see Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase still playing for something. Just from a pure enjoyment standpoint, Stefanski not playing Jameis. I guess he's got a bad shoulder, right? Yeah. So we're going with a shoulder excuse.

But at least in games where you're coaching Jameis Winston, it makes you use your imagination as a head coach because he gets you into some jams that you wouldn't normally be in. Right. And you have to figure a way out of them. Right. And then you can actually use the whole playbook and have him throw the ball downfield. It's got to be a lot more fun to coach him than it is to coach DTR. Yeah. So hopefully once he's healthy, put him back in. Yeah. Put him back in. Get him back in. I don't think they're going to put him back in. But get him back in.

Make us enjoy watching Browns games, please. Yeah, for the ratings. We'd really appreciate it. For our personal enjoyment. I'll be selfish. Yeah. I want it for myself. I want it for the good of the league. Yeah. For the good of the league and ourselves. Yeah. Listen, there's probably like 50 or 60 first-time watchers every weekend for Browns games. Yeah. I've never seen a football game before. And they want to see Jameis. Let's give them a show. Let them see Jameis. Let them see Jameis. Okay. Okay.

Moving on. Next up, Colts 38, Titans 30. This was a crazy game. Oh, oh, we got a touchdown. No, we got a pick. The Bucs have found every single way to fuck up this game.

That was crazy. That was crazy. All right, actually, we're going to do the Lions Bears. I was going to do the Colts Titans because I thought the Bucks were going to maybe score, and I wanted to half watch, see if Mike Evans so we could get the TD parlay for the people. But that doesn't look like it's in the cards tonight because that was an insane interception. How do you intercept that?

The Cowboys, no one wants to play this Cowboys team. No one's going to have to play this Cowboys team after week 18, but no one wants to play this Cowboys team. That was crazy. Just took it away from on the way down. Oh, no. Do you have to play this Cowboys team? Yeah, I'll be there, though. Okay. You're going to save the season. You have to play this Cowboys team, too. Yeah. Wait, so you just said that. No, I seriously. No, I was saying that because they're actually playing decent football right now.

All right. Lions 34, Bears 17. I don't know what to say other than the Lions just clowned us, which I expected, but the fake fumble play.

Jared and Ben Johnson cooked up. That was extra clowning. It's crazy. How many more trick plays does Ben Johnson have if he's asking his quarterback, hey, can you accidentally on purpose fumble the ball and then fall down and then stand up and throw it? That's not a play that a normal sane person would use in a matchup. No offense, Big Cat. No. In a matchup against the Bears. No offense taken. Well, they said they liked the look against the Bears. All right, so here's what I'm hoping is...

Ben Johnson was just... He's just trying to make the Bears pay even more money for him by... It's negotiations. Because there was a report that he's intrigued by the Bears, which I don't even... He might be just intrigued. Like, how can they be so bad?

How has this franchise been around for 105 years and been this bad? But he also said he likes the sound of Caleb Williams' pass. He likes how the ball whistles. Yeah, he loves his balls. It would be funny if he came out and was just like, yeah, when I said I was intrigued by the Bears, I was literally just like, how is this possible? We all should be intrigued by the Bears. How have they never had a 4,000-yard pass for 105 years in the league? To invent a new genre of play, the stumble ruski, and then pull it off,

The balls that it takes to do that. And they're good enough to execute it. It's crazy. When we were saying last week, I don't know how much new stuff the Lions can try on offense with all the injuries they have defensively. How many more games can they keep winning? I think Ben Johnson just has a never-ending bag of tricks. Deepest bag. And then to add insult to injury, I did text our good friend Jared Goff and I said, was the fake trip play necessary? And he replied, sorry, big guy.

Next year is the year. Big God, yeah. Which I've also thought about this. Maybe he knows his offensive coordinator is going to the Bears. That's why he said next year is the year.

Or he was just saying that to get your hopes up. That also could be the case. Yeah, I don't know. The Bears suck. The defense is awful now. Caleb was, I mean, he had a nice pass to Keenan Allen. I don't really know. I mean, just the whole team just bums me out so much. Do you think the big guy was meant as like a pat on the head? I think he was probably saying I'm fat. Yeah? Yeah.

It is what it is. It's tough. Yeah, I mean, the Bears are a four-win team that kicked a field goal down 20 points on fourth and seven from the 12th. Thomas Brown, there's the door. Well, yeah, they don't really have a coach anymore.

He should be coaching up in the booth. He should be coaching up in the booth. Put the head coach up in the booth. Let's see what happens. It's hard. I just wanted to end. We have to play one more game on national television on Thursday night. But the Lions deserve all the credit. They bounce. They get off the mat. They're 7-0 on the road this year, which I know there's talk like, can the Lions go on the road? Yeah, they can. They're 7-0 on the road. Jameer Gibbs also answered the bell of, like, can he be the guy? Because he carried the ball 23 times at 109 yards.

So, yeah, the Lions are just – that's how a good team bounces back. That's what a good team looks like when they get punched in the mouth. They come and take care of business, and it was never in doubt. It was never in doubt. And Jared Goff has learned how to defeat the cold. Yeah. The narrative's over. He looked great today. And the only thing that was – the only cold that bothered him is I thought for a second that Dan Campbell's nose was going to fall off.

He had the reddest nose of all time. He was very, very red. You could tell that shit was running, probably crusting over a little bit. Yeah. The Lions are just very, very good, and their defense, I know they have some no-names, but they played well, and so...

Yeah, I just want this season to end. The only thing I'm rooting for now is that I want Caleb to... So he's the first rookie quarterback in Bears history to go over 3,000 yards. I'm hoping that he can somehow... I think he'd have to throw 364 yards twice. So average 364 yards to break the all-time record for Bears rushing...

or sorry, passing yards in a season. That's all I'm rooting for. Defeat the graphic. Yeah. The Bears, this is, so Caleb went over 3,000 yards. That is the 13th time the Bears have had a passer over 3,000 yards in their 105-year history.

To put that into perspective, Matt Ryan and Eli Manning both have 14 seasons over 3,000 yards. So Matt Ryan and Eli Manning by themselves have more 3,000 yards than a team playing football for 105 years. That's pretty crazy. So right now you guys are drafting...

Yeah, this is the worst year to be bad because every team is bad. Every team's really bad. Have you thought about what direction you're going in the draft? I would like an offensive lineman, but I don't know if there's going to be one there, so then just take defensive line. Whatever the draft pick is, it has to say line. Take a big guy. Has to be line. That's it. It just has to be line with a letter in front of it. That's it. Okay. Nothing else. If you tell me anything else, I'm sending it back.

And Ryan Poles should probably not be the one making the pick because there's some things that have just... Listen, I like the guy personally, but we took a project in the third round who can't even be on the field. From Yale? Yeah, and then we took a punter in the fourth round who I like, Torrey Taylor, because he had a sick punt today. Aren't you glad you took Torrey Taylor? Yeah, maybe not. Probably could have used an offensive lineman. Yeah.

He's a pretty good punter. Congrats to the Lions, though. 13 wins is the most in the history of the franchise in a single season. So that's pretty awesome. And yeah, they keep rolling. And they have endless trick plays that will just keep coming out. And I'm hoping that was Ben Johnson's

Showing... I mean, the McCaskey... Even if he was showing the McCaskey's what to do, they don't know. I'm kind of with you that that might have been more of a negotiation thing. Yeah. Price just went up. He knows they want him. That was another million dollars that trick. But now look what I can do. Right. You're going to have to pay a premium. Again, take out the sorry big guy part. Next year's the year.

Ben Johnson might have told Jared, like, hey, I'm going to go to the Bears. This is the last dance? Yeah, I'm going to the Bears. Yeah. I'm intrigued by it. I want to see just how dysfunctional this organization can be. I want to hear his balls whistling by my ears all night. Hear those balls. All right. Colts, 38, Titans, 30. This was a crazy game in the fact that it started 7-0 Titans. Then it was 38-7 Colts. Then it was 38-30 Final.

But I'd say because this game doesn't really have a lot of meaning. I know the Colts are technically still alive. This game was the game, and everyone knows this, listening to this right now, every year in the fantasy playoffs.

There's one guy who, if you have him, you won. And if you went against him, you lost. And it's just cut and dry, black and white, as clear as that. And that was Jonathan Taylor this year. This was the year. You could have the best team in the world, and you go up against Jonathan Taylor today who had 218 yards and three touchdowns, and you're gone. Well, also, if you went up against Jonathan Taylor last week,

You probably won. Yeah. A lot of Jonathan Taylor teams got bounced last week. Yeah. And this is probably like a big consolation prize game. Well, I have Jonathan Taylor on our team. I had a bye. Okay. Yeah. Congrats. So you could have a bye. Congrats. With Jonathan Taylor. So Jerry had Anthony Richardson starting for us today. J-O-C. J-O-C. And it's going to be a big Monday night game for the boys. We need Brandon McManus.

To get 13 points. Okay. And then we advanced to the finals. You can do that. Jerry. You can do that. Give him a pump-up speech, Jerry. Yeah, Anthony Richardson, his stat line was very funny today. He was 7 for 11, 131 yards, a touchdown, an interception, but did have also 70 rushing yards. Yeah. It felt like when he threw the interception, Shane Steichen was like, no, we're done. We're done throwing today. We're not doing this anymore. So one thing I noticed on both of...

long touchdown runs and Richardson's long run. Quentin Nelson. Remember him? Yeah. He's still fucking awesome and he's still just beer games, bowling people over, just destroying people out there. Yeah. Very fun to hang out with at beer games, beer Olympics. He's one of those guys where you stand next to him and this is a different species than I am.

Fun fact, I chugged faster than Quentin Nelson at Beer Olympics. That is fun. I told literally the whole place, probably too many times because I was drunk off of three beers. That's a man. Yeah. And Quentin Nelson was like, okay, dude, you've said this to me 17 times. Why are you so drunk off three beers? But a sneaky fun game. Yeah. Yeah. It was up and down. Fun game. The...

So the only, so the Colts are technically still alive. What did the Colts have to win out? And then they have to have the Broncos lose out. And I don't know. Can you, can you do that for me real quick? Still alive. Yeah. I also, we are, we should have mentioned this on Friday, but Anthony Richardson is on Tebow watch. I don't know if you knew that. So he's at a 47.7% completion percentage this year. Um,

Tebow has the worst completion percentage for a starting quarterback in a season at 46.5%. So today actually was a good day for Anthony Richardson because he went 7 for 11. Okay, the Colts can make the playoffs if they win out and the Chargers lose out. Okay. So the Chargers would need to lose to the Raiders and the Patriots. Got it. Probably not going to happen. Probably not going to happen. Probably not going to happen. But it could. Also, Mason Rudolph, not the guy. Not the guy. You were going for a spark.

He's not a spark. Mason Rudolph. We've seen enough Mason Rudolph to know that that's not a spark guy. No, he's not a spark. This game was a spark. This game was more fun than we expected it to be when we were getting ready for this slate. But yeah, Mason Rudolph, not the spark. But you know what? The Colts are going to remember that they played the Titans. Yeah. They're going to be like, I know who we just played. We remember that shit. Titans go to 2-13.

Also really 2-13 against the spread. Sorry, are they 2-13 as well? No, 3-12. 3-12, but they're 2-13 against the spread. It's not great when you say your team's not soft and then you give up 335 yards rushing. But you know what? Because I like Brian Callahan. Positive side, his team was down 38-7 and they did not give up.

That's not a soft team. That's true. That is not a soft team. They kept fighting. Yeah. When they come off the field, they know they just played us. Yeah, exactly. Listen, there's going to be no mistaking. We were only able to do that against the Titans. Remember the Titans. Okay. Do we have anything else from the Colts? Titans? I don't think so. We're watching Baker Mayfield try to get the Bucks down the field to maybe get Mike Evans a touchdown, which would be incredible. Yeah.

Incredible. Incredible. But I don't think it's going to happen. It's going to happen. I don't think it's going to happen. It's going to happen. Do you want to announce it, Hank, here? Because they're going fast enough that you could just say it. Yeah, the Bucs have the ball somewhere near the red zone. We could do our recap of this game while we do this. Baker Mayfield snaps. He drops back. He's looking at Mike Evans. He fakes pressure all night. Is he looking at Mike Evans?

complete to not like evans yeah i'm i'm impressed that the cowboys did not give up how about ezekiel getting a touchdown huh yeah just rolling them out there being like hey zeke you've been around give it give it up for the hometown fans real quick let you take one last bow before him it's christmas time it was bad it's been a bad game for the bucks it's been a bad game for the bucks but i again i'm i'm more impressed that the that the cowboys just have not given up like they've

They have no reason to play, and they've kind of been playing good football recently. Yeah. I do think that McCarthy saved his job a couple weeks ago. I do too. And Jerry can be like, hey, you know what?

Win before Christmas? Feels like the win before Christmas means more. It counts as a double win. So Jerry always does the opposite of what we think he's going to do. We've pre-fired Mike McCarthy several times on this podcast. Yeah. And then Jerry's kept him around. Is this... But remember... We're saying McCarthy has done enough to stay around, and then Jerry's like, we've got to move on? We've said this...

but Jerry Jones from the 90s is not Jerry Jones of the last 20 years. He kept Jason Garrett around for five years too long. Maybe we've just got Jerry wrong. Maybe we just can't get inside that head of his. Mike McCarthy's a great coach. It could all be true. All right, ready, Hank? Yeah, there was an injury on the field. The Bucs are huddled up. They're going to call the Mike Evans play. You sure? Score touchdown. Yeah, this is it.

They really need to. They really, really need to. Stephen Che is watching in the other room being like, the game's not over. He's been saying that for the last three hours. 26-17 Dallas with 2.43 remaining. And the Bucs only have two timeouts. So they have to score before the two-minute warning to have any chance of possibly winning this game. And they just showed the graphic in the Bucs. Losing this game is very detrimental to their performance.

chances of making the playoffs right now the Falcons would have they'd be ahead of them they would be ahead of them you'd have to you'd have to beat the Falcons for Stephen Che Mike Evans bottom of the screen Baker Mayfield snaps the ball he looks at Baker he's throwing it to him that's not Mike Evans fuck touchdown Bucs whoever the fuck that's not Scotty Miller that would be Scotty Miller Ryan Miller Ryan Miller Scotty Miller's on the Steelers yeah

We knew that. That's not fair to us to have two. Another Miller. Hardworking, scrappy. That's also where Mike Evans usually is, right? Catching touchdowns. Yes. Fuck. Damn, Hank. All right. We'll go to the next game. Now declared onside kick coming up for the Bucs. Or do they kick it deep? They could kick it deep. Yeah, two timeouts. Two timeouts and a two-minute warning. They could kick it deep. What would the pussy thing to do be? What would the wrong decision be?

I don't know. And also, Hank, they're not going to go for a touchdown. So that's out. Yeah. I think the wrong thing to do would be to onside kick it. Yeah, I think you've got to kick it deep because you can win with a field goal. That means that Todd Bowles is going to onside kick it. Yeah, probably. That's definitely what's going to happen. Okay. Rams 19, Jets 9. This game was weird. Very strange. The Jets opened the game with a 99-yard touchdown drive.

They did not punt a single time this game, and they scored nine points. They're the first team in 25 years to not punt and score fewer than 10 points. Yeah. How did that happen, Memes? This game was incredible. Yeah, Memes said they're the most electric watch. Yeah. I think we're the most entertaining team in football. That's just not true. Not from a football perspective. Saying that they turned into the greatest show on turf today.

No, no, no. When the Jets get eliminated from the playoffs, they turn into the third. They scored nine points. They scored nine points. And then they didn't score after I press end on that tweet. Ah. It was a great drive. It was a great drive. So, yeah. So what happened today, Memes? The weather happened. A lot of wind. A lot of drops.

That's pretty much it. Okay. Fireman Ed. Fireman Ed continues to be banned from the Jumbotron. Yeah. Fireman Ed made the game about himself as soon as we lost. What did he say? He put up a post saying, like, once again, I've been frozen out from the Jumbotron. Yeah. They keep squeezing him out from the Jumbotron. Yeah. Very sad. We need to get in touch with Fireman Ed, not to talk to him or have him on the show, but just to then get him in touch with Marlon's band.

Okay, here we go. Because I feel like they need to talk to each other because if Fireman Ed was like, hey, I got squeezed out, Marlins may be like, dude, same with me. Jets Nation, I'm at the game, but this is the second home game in a row I'm not included on the Jumbotron to do the chant with the Scott and Jet Man. Oh, man. They froze him out.

That's crazy. He needs to pull a Tebow and rescue somebody in the stands having a medical emergency. Yeah. And then Jetman is sitting over there with his thumb up his ass and Fireman Ed steps into action and saves a life. That would be nice. Yeah, I'm going to need a statistic on how many games we've won with Fireman Ed on the Jumbotron and not...

Probably bad both ways. Yeah. If I had to guess, the Rams are a very big issue for my pinky because they're going to win the NFC West now. They control their own destiny and they have gone from a one in four team to a what are they?

9-6, so they're 8-2 in their last 10. They're one of the hottest teams in the NFL. What's kind of crazy is, although you don't think of Sean McVay as being a cold-weather coach, they're kind of built for it a little bit now. They're just running the football. Kyron Williams, he's so consistent. Yeah. He's just always out there getting just enough to win. And their defense played well, and it was cool to see Tyler Higbee back from his ACL injury. This is his first game back, scores a game-winning touchdown. Nice jump into the end zone.

Yeah, I mean, this is a bummer to watch, Memes. I don't know how they could be exciting in any way. I'll give credit to Memes. When they missed that field goal, Memes correctly was like, yes, that's good. Yes, I also knew they were going to miss. It was a 49-yard field goal into the wind. Yeah, and you want them to lose. Yes, it was a perfect game up until Olu Fashana got hurt.

He hurt his foot. And then it was like, what the fuck? No, we don't know. But a lot of people thought it was his Achilles. Oh, no. But it's his foot. And so right now you have the eighth pick. This really is the worst year to be bad. You're 4-11 and you have the eighth pick. But I think this is actually good for the Jets, though. Okay. Go ahead. Jameis, bridge quarterback. Bridge quarterback. But there's so many bad quarterbacks.

You let the other teams take that so it limits your options. Then you get the good quarterback. No, none of these quarterbacks. You're not taking a quarterback this year? Not in the first round. Okay. Because Shador, Cam Ward, once they go, it's going to... Yeah, yeah. Then you need that third team to take the reach quarterback. Yep.

So that limits you to take the best player available. Hopefully a D-line that drops. Mikel Williams would rock. Or Mason Graham. A lot of people say we have Mason Graham. I want him. I want him. The Bears have lost nine in a row and have the ninth pick? Yeah. It's crazy. That's insane. It's crazy. The Bears are the worst team in football right now. We accidentally tanked, but we have the ninth pick.

I think someone tweeted it, but a four-win team last year at this time would have the third pick. How many wins did you guys have last year? I think we had four. Yeah, you had the second pick. It's crazy. So I'm looking at the teams that are now with four wins and three wins. Do any of them play each other? I'm not sure. Does Jacksonville play Tennessee again? Yes, they do. That's going to be a big game. Oh, my God.

Oh, you could hear Stephen Shea go screaming. Oh, I don't think that was actually...

Potential fumble either way. Third down stop by the Bucs. They're going to get the ball back. A minute and 50 left. No timeout. Yes. There's no way that was a fumble. No, there's no way. Freaking out for no reason. He is. He is somehow watches so much football and still doesn't really know how football works. It's actually he knows how football works. He just always takes the most optimistic view of things, even though the facts are right in front of his face. I can hear what he's saying. I'm pretty sure I just heard him scream fuck because he realized that it

It was never a fumble. He was always down. He couldn't have been more down. Also, always crazy that Vita Vey does not wear gloves. It was funny watching him. That was... He was... Jake Ferguson was laying on the ground. Like, that's what Stephen Che does, though. Where he'd be like, ball. He's like, dude, are you watching this? It was very funny watching him tackle Turpin in the first half. Yeah. It's like the smallest player on the field and by far the biggest player on the field. Yeah. The...

So the Bucs have a chance here. All right, so Rams are dangerous. I don't know. They're going to what? I don't think so. Why? Not in the cold. You need them to play Philly in Philly.

Okay. They just beat you in the hole. Matt Stafford had 100 yards. Yeah. Kyron Williams ran the football. Because we didn't punt, and we would just go for it inside our own third. I did like that Jeff Ulbrich was just like, fuck it, this season is over. He was basically coaching it like a bowl game. Yeah, it was incredible. He was just like, I'm going for it all the time. I don't care. Except the field goal at the end. Yeah. Yeah, the not punting thing is a little bit of a fake stat because I think a lot of teams would have punted a few times.

Yeah. No, there was only because they did go. They went for it on in the red zone. Yep. I think they only went for it on their own side of the. They went a couple times. Like maybe twice. The field goal at the end. Yeah. Of turnover on downs. Yeah. It was kind of. Yeah, it was fun to watch. Three turnover on downs. Three turnover on downs. But how many were on their own side? How many were like would have been punting? Definitely two. That was. Oh, my God. He's screaming.

Mike Evans. I just heard what a play. Mike Evans bomb. Something big is about to happen. Oh, man. We're about to watch it. Maybe it's a Mike Evans touchdown. That would be incredible. Oh, Baker. That was a crazy play by Baker. A little shovel pass. Rashad White. That was a pretty nice play. Oh, they fumbled. Oh, they fumbled. They fumbled. That's very funny. Was he screaming about that? No. He said, I heard what a play. And then he probably got quiet once the. Yeah. Oh, my. Once the fumble happened. Was he not down?

This is chaotic. Yeah. Wait. First down, Dallas. Cowboys ball. Game over. How is he not down? They did all that to get that. A fumble. Oh, he was holding the ball like a loaf of bread. Yeah, I think that was a fumble. Let's see. Here comes the replay. This is great podcasting, by the way. That is a fumble. It falls out.

Game over. Tell Stephen Shea to get in here. I want to hear a recap real quick. Just two seconds. Because I bet on the Bucs I want to yell at them. Ball security is very important in this league. And the Bucs just didn't do that. Memes. So Jets are the most electric team.

Most entertaining. Most entertaining team. Most entertaining team. Yeah, it's like a choose-your-own-adventure when you watch them. You never know what you're going to get. Well, I think you do, kind of. Yeah, so when you're going to go to Buffalo, maybe play spoiler. No. Okay. No. But electric. Electric, yes. Shootout, probably not. Yeah, probably not. Patriots played them too close. Now we're going to get fucking stomped. Yeah, killed. How can you be electric if no shootout?

Electric in the sense that you don't know what's going to happen. Yeah, you don't know what's going to happen. What the fuck? I mean, you got to hold on to the ball, Steven. Oh, shit. We have a timeout right now. Did NBC not fucking update the scoreboard? Steven, you couldn't have thought that that was a fumble by Jake Ferguson. What? The play before, the Cowboys, when Vida Vey hit him.

You thought that was a fumble? No, no, no. He's got to talk in the mic. All right, you got to talk in the mic. Are we recording something? Yeah, we're in the middle of the show. Oh, okay. I mean, they're fucking in victory formation. What the fuck? Oh, this was brutal. Did you see Vita hit stick on third down? Yeah, did you think that was a fumble? No, but it was a fucking sick play. Yeah. Where would you say tonight went wrong, Che? I mean, million turnovers. The Jalen McMillan, that was a touchdown. He's down at the one. The interception? The interception, yeah. Yeah, no, he intercepted him.

I thought that at least deserved a review. I guess they did review it. They definitely reviewed it. They needed a second review. Yeah. I mean, where it went wrong. That was your biggest thing that you take away? And I tweeted this out when it happened. Bucs drive it down into the first half. 54 seconds left. They get a first down. They have one timeout left. They're on the 11-yard line. It's first and 10 from the 11. They called a timeout with 54 seconds left. That's crazy. It was their last timeout.

Yeah. So you have nothing left. They score the next play. Yeah. So they give the ball back 48 seconds left. The Cowboys go down and kick a field goal. So we don't get, you know, just a seven-point touchdown. We then go in, you know, that score difference goes from seven to four, and we lose by two points. So, yeah, I think things went wrong there. Yeah, you need to beat the Panthers next week. I need you guys to handle business. But now things get really weird because if you guys – if the Falcons win and we win –

then you and I are now duking it out for the seventh spot, no? No, I don't think so. Because we had a tiebreaker against you. Oh, yeah, I guess it's the Falcons win. If the Falcons win and you win next week, we're still in the seventh spot. We would be in the seventh spot, but then it's going to come down to the last week. Then it would come down to the last week, yeah. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. You've got the Saints. Yeah. Probably a win. Yeah. And then we've got the Cowboys, and the Cowboys are playing well. I hate you guys. If they beat us, then that's horrible. Yeah.

Yeah. Does this ruin Christmas? Knocks us out. Yeah, I mean, this is horrible. I also had a giant future ticket on the Bucs parlayed with two other division winners that I could have cashed out and I didn't. So this is bad. But, I mean, it's certainly not over. I knew this would be a tough game, but this was bad. Brandon Aubrey is a fucking weapon. Every time they got anywhere near midfield, he's kicking it right down the middle. And he does it, like, so effortlessly. Yeah.

Yeah, like no doubt field goals. As soon as it touches his toe, it's like right down the middle. All they have to do is get to the 75. Yeah, all they have to do is get to the 40-yard line. It's three points. This is really deflating, though, because when the Bucs stop them right there on third down, it's like we're about to fucking win the game. Yeah, and maybe Mike Evans will get 10 more yards.

If he got 11, Luke Blutman was one yard away from a 10-leg parlay. Whatever. The whole night sucked. It was bad. All right. It's great. You should feel bad. You ruined Christmas. No, this is horrible. It's a neat little shovel pass by Baker there at the end, right? So that play, I was thinking it in real life. The Bucs tweeted out from their official account 25 years ago this week. It was...

Bucks fans, Super Bucks fans probably don't remember this, but there's a play on Monday Night Football, Sean King to Warwick Dunn, where he's getting dragged around by his jersey, shovels it to Warwick Dunn. He gets like 20 yards in a first, or no, Warwick Dunn shovels it to Sean King. He goes out of bounds, gets clocked 15 yards. They go on to win that game because of that play. It was 25 years ago this week. That was a very similar play.

And then I'm just freaking out because he's about to get sacked. It's a great jump fast forward. And then all of a sudden I'm seeing a guy and the Cowboys run to the ends of it. What the fuck just happened? I'm unfortunately very clear that it was a fumble. Yeah. Rashad White should probably have gone high and tight there.

Tough situation, but yes. I mean, he was holding it loose, and then he did bring it in, but he got stripped. I mean, the Cowboys, if they're going to play lights-out special teams and just get three every time they cross midfield, and they got four takeaways, I think, tonight, that's a tough situation for us to win in. Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Steven. Thanks, Jay. Good recap. It's brutal. It's over.

Hey, Che, I'll beat the Falcons for you. Yeah, if you can do that, that'd be great. You got it. That would actually be better than I was winning tonight. Oh, it'd be better than you winning tonight? I always want to win. I'd rather win. That's just me. Retroactively. Yeah, no, that's stupid. Okay, next up, Panthers. Hank, that sucked. We're stupid. Panthers 36, Cardinals 30. I don't really have anything for this game other than, well, the Cardinals are officially eliminated.

The Panthers, it's crazy to say because the Cardinals were 6-4 going into the bye week, and they're 1-4 after that. They were top of the NFC West. They play the Panthers today, and this might just be way too knee-jerk, but I think I'm buying more Panthers stock than Cardinals stock going forward. So do you think Jonathan Gannon's safe?

I don't know. He might not be. Is Kyler Murray the franchise quarterback? So they had... I think they had seven penalties in the first quarter. The Cardinals have stunk recently. I mean, James Conner getting hurt did fuck things up because he was going off and he had 111 yards in the first half. But I don't... Kyler Murray, like, I know he has incredible plays, but...

I don't know if I feel so confident about him just going forward. I don't know. So he's now 8-14 in December. And that was like a Cliff Kingsbury stat, too. Still might be. I don't know. But, yeah, Murray has not looked good at all the last couple weeks. And, yeah, Bryce Young, you know what I'm amazed by? His touch passes now. Yeah. Because he had absolutely no feel for the football until like a month ago. He's pulling up the trade. I'd still rather have all those picks on that side.

And I think that Caleb Williams is better than Bryce Young. It was a topic of conversation today. Got it. Who was having the conversation? Barstool Sports Twitter. Oh, okay. Would you rather have Bryce Young or DJ Moore? Darnell Wright. Caleb Williams. Tyreek Stevenson. Tyreek Stevenson did kind of that as a sliding doors moment. Yeah, I'd still rather have. You'd rather take Caleb than Bryce? Yeah, because we're probably going to get a future Hall of Famer with the second round pick this year. There you go. Yeah.

Did you want to have this be a topic of conversation right now? I don't know. You like to have topics of conversation. We can, but just you passively pulling it up. Like, say something with your chest, buddy. It's not my show. Say something with your chest. It's not my show. Don't just put stuff up on the computer. You can make a decision to talk about it or not. No, say it with your chest. Let's go. I'm just saying. Say it then.

I wanted you to say it. No, no, no. You don't care about what I have to say about it. You say it. I would still rather have the Bears side of this trade. There you go.

What would you rather have? Because you pulled it up. For people who don't understand or listen to the podcast, there's a computer monitor right in front of me and PFT, and Max will sometimes scroll like Sidney Sweeney tits just out of nowhere. As we started the Panthers recap, he just went and scrolled and pulled up the Panthers-Bears trade, but then didn't say anything. As passive-aggressive as it gets. What do you think about this, Max? I think that I would probably still rather be on the Bears side, but...

It's a discussion that was the biggest haul. It's a discussion. Yes. Because you're making it the discussion right now. I didn't make this a discussion. Barstool Sports main account tweeted, what a great trade for the Panthers with the trade. And it got 3,000 likes on Twitter. Oh, no shit. LOL Bears gets instant memes. Back me up here. Discussion. Numbers.

Any dunk on the Bears. The Tyree Stevenson thing is wild. Yeah, that part hurts. That is a sliding door moment. I still am going to take Cale Williams over Bryce Young going forward. I am impressed with Bryce Young and what he's done, and I do think the Panthers have a quarterback going forward, which is crazy. I'm kind of impressed with Canales. Yeah, big time. I mean, Bryce Young looks good. He was dropping dimes. I'm impressed with David Tepper.

But memes, back me up. If you post anything that's LOL Bears, it's instant. Yeah, LOL Bears, LOL Jets. It's like instant just... Spawns. Yeah. All right, good topic of conversation. Good producing, Max. Well, next time when you produce, actually say it instead of just putting it up. I can't interrupt your conversation. Yes, you can. I can't do that. Okay. Never. Is this the Panthers have...

Wait, so since Bryce came back, they're almost 500 since Bryce came back. They're three and four since the bye week, and three of their four losses were by one possession to division leaders. Although I guess the Bucs aren't division leaders anymore. But yeah, they're playing good ball, and they're building something, and it feels like their future, which was nothing, you know, like a month and a half ago,

is actually something now. I think Bryce Young is the starter next year. Dave Canales has proven that he's a good coach because he took a horrific situation and has made them a competitive football team. And yeah, I think the Panthers, they're also playing in a division that no one's incredible right now. I think they're going to win one of these next two. I think they're going to be either the Bucks or the Falcons. Yeah, I do too. I think they're going to be spoilers. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I'm impressed with the Panthers. Yeah.

I think Bryce Young is good. They're the one. I'd still take Caleb Williams. Would you rather play the Panthers or the Cowboys? I can say both things. What? Would you rather play the Panthers or the Cowboys? The Cowboys. Or no, the Panthers. Because the Cowboys beat the Panthers. Just beat the shit out of the Panthers. But that was also the Panthers being favorites, which wasn't fair to the Panthers. That's not the Panthers. They shouldn't have done that. That was actually very mean to the Panthers. But yeah, I think they're prime for spoiler season right now. Yeah. And then the Cardinals are dead, and I don't really know what their future is.

I don't know. See, I don't know if it sticks around. Future stock. Yeah. Right now, I would buy the Panthers stock over the Cardinals stock. That's crazy to say. Maybe. Maybe it's too in the moment. Would you buy it? You buy the Panthers? Panthers over the Cardinals, 100%. Yeah. Going forward, which is nuts because if you said that to me, if you said that to someone six weeks ago, you'd be like, what are you talking about? Are you crazy?

I don't know. It's close. It's close for me. I just don't... I kind of... I mean, it's the two short kings. And we've seen a lot of Kyler Murray. But Kyler's thicker. There's some great flashes. I don't know. Maybe it's... I take Kyler September, October, November. Bryce in December. And I know that this Cardinals roster isn't stacked. And it's not all on Kyler. But if you're paying him that much money...

In your six and four, he feels like, and especially the fact that he's been in the league for, I think, what is this, his fifth year, sixth year? Like, this felt like a stretch that Kyler could have ascended a little bit and carried the Cardinals to a playoff spot, and they've just fallen on their face. Is Marvin Harrison Jr. awesome? I don't know. I don't know if he is or not. Yeah, I'm not sure. He hasn't really...

You'd like to see a little bit more out of Marvin Harrison Jr. You'd probably like to see a little bit more out of Marvin Harrison Jr. But yeah, if Connor doesn't get hurt... I mean, this game went to overtime. Yeah. So it's not like the Panthers are leaps and bounds ahead of the Cardinals. No, agreed. So it was a close game. You were down your starting running back. One of your best players. But the Panthers also did come out to a pretty big lead. But yeah. It just seems like things have not... They haven't gone well recently for the Cardinals. Yeah, where...

They were 6-4 going into the bye week, and I was like, they're impressing me. Turns out they had just beaten the Bears and the Jets and I think the Patriots. That should have been the sign. How much time do you think is going to be spent on Arizona Sports Talk Radio talking about Gannon and whether or not he should stick around? I think it's going to be about Kyler. You think so? Yeah. I mean, Gannon's only on year two. Yeah. So I think he's probably going to have an end. I mean, they are better than they were year one.

What did they finish last year? What was their last year? They were picking, what, fourth? So they were pretty bad last year. So they've gone in the right direction if you want to just go wins and losses. Overall. Overall in the season. But recently it feels like it's been a lot worse. Yeah. I think he probably is okay. I'm just saying more, Kyler, this is the guy for the future, maybe? Yeah.

I don't know. I have no idea. I feel like we're six years into Kyler, and I still don't know. Yeah. There's some times where I'm like, oh, my God, there's no one like him, and there's some times like, what's that? That interception he threw, they got the, with like three and a half minutes left, they got the ball back, but that was so bad. I also think he throws some of the saddest interceptions. Yeah. He gets very down on himself right after he throws them. Yeah, yeah. Okay, last early game, Falcons 34, Giants 7.

Michael Penix, instant offense, first time Atlanta put up 30 points since October. Huge offensive explosion. Yeah. Going by points. Yeah. Two pick sixes is how that happened. This is...

It's more about... I mean, Michael Penix is actually not bad. I feel like the Falcons' offense worked better. It felt like they were better on third down. It felt like they were pushing the ball further. He was more mobile. I know he threw a pick, but it was not his fault. It was Kyle Pitts basically bobbling the ball into everyone else. And it felt like Bijan had more lanes because Michael Penix... The threat of Michael Penix was a lot more than Kirk has been in the last few weeks. Yeah, they couldn't just...

Count on him to box himself in the pocket. Right. So did you see the clip of Mr. Mara? I did. Reacting to the very mean graphic that they showed about the Giants? Yes. I didn't realize, because the Giants are a historic franchise. They've been around for forever. And this season, even amongst recent bad Giants seasons, has stood out as being... It can't get any worse than this. Correct. This is the first time they've ever had 10 losses in a row. First time ever, 10 losses in a row. Everything looks just...

bad about the future of the franchise, and then you're looking forward to week 18 where Philly comes in and Saquon potentially sets the NFL rushing record in your home stadium as like the ultimate nightmare. But the good news for the Giants is you are now drafting first overall. Yes. And Shador Sanders is on the clock potentially. He's ready to go. Or Cam Ward or somebody else who's really good. But yeah, that clip where Mr. Mara saw him, I think he saw himself-

on whatever screen he was looking at up in the suite, and he got pissed off at Fox broadcasters. My prediction is that the league's network partners are going to be told, under no circumstances, show Mr. Mara during a broadcast anymore. Yes. They'll get a letter from that. There was also a report this week that Brian Dable might be fired, but Joe Shane might keep his job, which makes no sense.

To me, that's the opposite of what they should do. Yeah, I agree. They're on the same timeline, but that makes no sense. I don't know who leaked that. Joe Shane. How do you say his last name? Sean? Shane? Anybody watch Hard Knocks? No. I mean, I've seen that clip a million times. So the Giants have been outscored 140 to 59 since he famously said they're not far off.

which was five weeks ago. They're the worst team in the NFL. Would we all agree? Mm-hmm. I don't think that's up for debate anymore. I would agree with that. They're the worst team in the NFL. And it's pretty clear that they're the worst team because...

I actually think they probably would have won it. They actually probably did it correctly by getting rid of Daniel Jones because they might have won a couple of these games with Daniel Jones, and now they are going to get the one pick, and they're going to get to pick their new quarterback. So the graphic they showed, the worst outright record of the NFL, it's been since 1966 that Giants had that. Winless at home since 1974. Winless versus Division in the playoffs.

Never. That still remains to be seen, though. And then the last time they had the number one overall draft pick was 1965. Wow. It's been a long time. I think that it was the right move to get Daniel Jones out of there. He definitely would have won one of these. But...

It's also hard to watch the Giants now if you're a Giants fan. Oh, yeah. It's very hard. They're a brutal watch. You definitely want to lose at this point. You want the number one overall pick. Yeah. That's worth a lot. But at what cost? You have to watch alternating Tommy Cutlets and... It's only two more weeks. ...Duloc. Yeah. It's two more weeks. I'm in a similar boat where it's two more weeks. Just get it over with. Two more weeks. One of those could be a meaningless Eagles game, too, which would be so funny if they won.

If they won that one. Oh, wow. That would actually be the meanest thing, Max. Wow. If the Eagles beat the Cowboys next week, they lock in the two seed. But... Play the Giants. I think they're...

Their strength of schedule. Oh, yeah, their strength of schedules. So they would screw themselves if they won a game. They have to lose out. Have to lose out. If they win a game, they could potentially go all the way down to six. So what could happen is they win a meaningless game against the Eagles, and then Hank gets the number one overall pick. That's interesting. Travis Hunter. And also that strength of schedule would be the Eagles are going to raise that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So they got to lose out. So it's actually a good thing that they suck so bad. And incredible day for the Falcons. They're back controlling their own destiny. Michael Penix looked decent in his first start. You got him a first start against the Giants, so it's not like he has to go on the road for his first NFL start. Now you get to prove it Sunday night football. Pretty big stage for him, but Falcons defense is playing a little bit better.

They also, I don't know how the Falcons always do this, but I become obsessed with them just because of where their players are drafted. They were the first team in 40 plus years to have a top eight pick at QB wide receiver tight end and running back. It's wild. And their tight end is Kyle Pitts. It's just not good. Kyle Pitts dropping that. Yeah, that was a bad, bad drop for him.

But he might get unlocked by Michael Penix. Is Drake London okay? I don't know. I think he had a hamstring at the end of the game. So he might not be. Also, I'd like to say that Malik Nabors putting up these type of numbers, considering who he's had thrown on the wall this year. It's impressive. We should not underestimate how good Malik Nabors is. Agreed. He's very, very good. Even though he's the king of checking himself out for a couple plays.

Might be hurt coming back in. But now he gets Shador Sanders. Yeah, I mean, Kyle Pitts, that interception Michael Penix technically threw, Kyle Pitts threw the interception. Yeah. Threw it to him. Yeah, you're right, though. Malik Neighbors and Tyrone Tracy's really good. That touchdown he had, the body control to get those feet inbounds was insane. So, yeah, they got a couple pieces. Dexter Lawrence will be back.

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Okay. Dolphins 29, Niners 17. You guys ready for the craziest stat ever?

Hit me. So the San Francisco 49ers have been eliminated from the playoffs, and that means that the streak continues. 22 straight years, the San Francisco 49ers either do not make the playoffs or get to the NFC Championship game. That's wild. That's it. Those are the only two outcomes.

Pretty impressive. That's pretty insane. And so the Dolphins... If they get to the playoffs, they're going to the NFC Championship game. If they're not going to the NFC Championship game, they're just not going to the playoffs. And so the Dolphins are technically still alive. Yeah. Right? That is. So what do the Dolphins have to do? You like that meme. Memes liked it. He's thinking about it hard. He's really thinking it through. That's a good one. Almost the same with the Jets.

Yeah. That's why you like it. You could say that for the Jets the last 16 years. Yeah. That they either go to the AFC Championship game or don't go to the playoffs. That's actually nice. Yeah. AFC Championship game or have a losing season, too. Okay. There you go. That's even crazier. Now, the difference being that the Niners have been to, like, five NFC Championship games. Yeah. They're better than us. Yeah. They're better than... Yeah. I mean, I'm with you.

They're better. So for the Dolphins to get in, they need to beat the Browns. They need to beat the Jets. And then they need to have some help from the Chargers, the Broncos, and the Colts. That was way too much shit you just said. They got to win. You just said they need five people to help them. They got to win, and they need the Chargers and Broncos to lose a lot. And the Colts to lose. And maybe one loss by the Jaguars.

I don't know why they need the Jaguars. No, they need the Colts to lose to either the Giants or the Jaguars. That's too much shit. That's one of those. When we do the playoff iterations, if you need three teams to help you, I'm out. Let me know when you get it down to one team to help you. Yeah, but Tyreek Hill's back. Yeah. They found him. Why? Mike McDaniel doesn't need to wear those glasses, especially when they're not good. Yeah, it's a weird look when he's cold.

Yeah, and it just, I don't know. I feel like those are, we're scoring 50 points on the opponents. We're 10 and four glasses. Not, we're fighting for our lives and we need whatever you just said, all the things that you said that need to happen, glasses. He's just, he's too far into we got to believe mode. Yeah. Sometimes it's okay to stop believing. Yeah, sometimes it's okay to give up. Journey said that. It's actually really fun to give up. It's fun to give up and just be like,

Just give up. It's never going to get better. Why don't you just play well so that you have the ability to look back at what you just accomplished with pride? Yeah. Be like, we won this game. Not because it means anything. Here's the difference. Like, the...

Look at Hank. He's happy. Look at me. I'm relatively happy. I'm relatively fine. Max has the best chance on this entire podcast to win a Super Bowl, and today pissed him off. He's miserable. When you come into Sundays with no expectations and no hopes and no dreams and no future, you can't really get hurt. Especially if you're looking at the draft. Yeah. I can't get hurt. I'm going to get so hurt. You're going to get so hurt. Join us. No.

That was a cute no. No, I mean, there is something to that. Not having any expectations whatsoever. Can't get hurt. Yeah. Can't get hurt. So the Dolphins should just not try to do this. You're going to hurt people.

Just give up. Yeah, what's going to happen is you're going to win maybe next week. Where do they play next week? So I just had it up here a second ago. How many teams do they need? Well, they've got to win out. Let's start with that. They have to win out. They've got to win out. They can beat the Browns next week. Yeah, they can beat the Browns. So what's going to probably happen next week is you're going to beat the Browns, and then you're going to get mad because the other three or four teams that didn't have to help you out all helped you out. Yeah. You're going to be like, God damn it, I can't believe that.

the chargers beat the patriots right and then you're gonna be pissed oh so they will win yeah most likely but next week if oh memes stop if they beat the browns it's cold in new york and then the chargers true if the chargers beat the patriots next week then they're done yes so you're gonna you're gonna put all this work in you're gonna look through all the scenarios if you're dolphins fan you're gonna take care of your business and then you're gonna get super pissed off patriots chargers are saturday at least oh okay there you go they'll figure it out all right um

Now I guess we just turn because the Niners have been eliminated. Season from hell. How much are we paying Brock Purdy? You got to pay him. How much are we paying him? 50? Paying him 50? By the way, shout out to Brock Purdy. They did the whole look at what these QBs gave to their offensive linemen last week.

and he gave out what did he pass out it was something awesome there were trucks they're all trucks and it was an ad yeah it was a thousand percent an ad this is what i've noticed is like with mahomes is one too they took like glamour shots of the pictures i think they're all ads no not joe burrows katanas are not katanas not ads those were sick great gift so the lineman wanted guns yeah and he was like i'm not gonna get you guns you brought swords to a gunfight does cooper rush have to get the gift

He should. Yeah. Or just Dak still. I mean, Dak's hurt. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. He got them Toyota Tundras or something. And they were like, everyone's like, oh, my God, how can he afford this? It's like, well, one, he still gets paid a decent salary. And he also has a lot of endorsements. And two, it's an ad.

It's an ad. Yeah, these are all ads now. I don't like that we've turned this into the ad season. Not the Katanas. And their worst trucks and Chevy Silverados. Yeah, that's right. I got you a death box. Yeah. You probably killed his offensive lineman. Oh, we should get our offensive line Chevy Silverados. Yeah. Chevy Silverados.

Let's do that ad next year. They have a wheelchair ramp? Yeah, we'll get memes, Max, Shane, Pug. What? The wheelchair ramp thing? The whole wheelchair thing. I come back, I was so pissed off at PFT. He's like, I got you this really expensive wheelchair. Can you just roll around in it, please? Is it not sweet? The chat really... I'm literally never... I'm walking. I'm walking.

You might have to have surgery. You keep saying that like you want me to have surgery. I don't want you to have surgery, but at least if you do, you're covered. The doctor told me I'm not going to need surgery. Wait, so you just came back and he had just put a wheelchair out in the middle and didn't say anything?

No, no. Kind of like you did the fucking Panthers Bears thing in the middle of our conversation. That's not true. The wheelchair arrived. I ordered it. Max, I ordered it. That's really nice of you, PFT. Thank you. The second I found out that my boy Max had a broken foot. That was huge. Without knowing the diagnosis. So let's not act like I did this after knowing that you'd be fine, Max. I thought the worst. Maybe you'd never walk again. I ordered a motorized wheelchair with a joystick.

So you wouldn't have to lift a finger. Yeah. Thank you. It's an awesome. And you know what? Max, if you don't need it, guess what? We can use it for other stuff around the office. Oh, no. That's just a toy for the office. You just didn't like that you had lost and he was like, here's a wheelchair.

Go be my monkey. Correct. Got it. That's fair. Yeah. That's fair. Were you in the cave? I said that again. No, I was upstairs. No, I said those exact words. US fighter jet accidentally shot down. Fine, I'll be your monkey. And I just got in. And then you did? Yeah, of course. You got to stand up for yourself. No, I always have to. Because of your broken foot. No, I can stand now. I'm basically walking. Basically walking. I'm not even bringing crutches home for Christmas. Wow.

Is that a good idea? Great idea. What about the wheelchair? No wheelchair either. Why don't you bring a wheelchair? What about the wedding? I'm going to the wedding. What about when you go to the Eagles game? Going to the Eagles game. Are you going to bring a wheelchair? No, I'm going to be walking. It's going to be sore. You're going to try to get Big Dom to carry you. No, I'm not. Yeah, you are. You're going to ask Big Dom to carry you, and he will because he's that type of guy. I'm going to be walking. I'm good. It barely hurts now.

Oh, okay. All right. Vikings 27, Seahawks 24. Oh, I had Jake Moody sucks. I think they used a third round pick on him. Did they? Yeah, he sucks. He just misses kicks. And Jason Sanders is good. Vikings 27, Seahawks 24. Sam Darnold, baby. That was a... He got hammered on that play before he threw the game-winning touchdown to Justin Jefferson. It was...

I think he got his leg and he also got face mask. They did call the face mask. He just stepped up there and did next play dart to Justin Jefferson and

Sam Darnold, he's just good at football. Jefferson got penalized for gritting while making eye contact. Yeah. I thought the gritty was okay. I thought that had been established, like case law in the NFL. You can't do the eye contact. But you can't look at another man in the eye while you're gritting through the flag. Can't do eye contact. I didn't like that. One thing I also, I actually can't figure out if I like this or didn't. Maybe you can help me figure it out.

Jason Myers, kicker for the Seahawks, trying a 60-yard field goal. I believe one minute, 57 seconds left in the fourth quarter. He missed the 60-yarder. Right afterwards, the camera caught one of his O-linemen jogging past him.

Sack tapped him. Oh. Hit him in the nuts. I think I like that. After he missed the kick. Can you try to pull that video up? I think I like that, and here's why. Just look at sack tap Jason Myers. I think you basically give him something else to think about in that moment.

You know what I'm saying? Boom. Yeah. His homeboy got him. Like, that's good. Because you're thinking about the kick. You're like, man, that sucks. I can't believe I missed that. He's like, here, think about me sack tapping you. I think that was a plot line in Major League Two. I feel like their catcher got kicked in the balls by a donkey. And then his grandmother died. You think about his balls hurting so much. Yeah, that's exactly what just happened. That's good. The Vikings control their own destiny for the one seed.

Has not been talked about enough. They're just really good at football. Sam Darnold is just really good at football. Their defense is just really good at football. Kevin O'Connell should be coach of the year. He is now 25 and nine in one possession games, which is second best in NFL history for a head coach. He should be coach of the year for what he's done with his team and for what he's done with Sam Darnold. And they are a serious threat in the playoffs, especially because

If they get that one seed. I feel like there's going to be a lot of casual NFL fans who, if the Vikings win out, they'll be like, wait, what the hell? I thought the Lions had the one seed. Yeah, but they play the Lions. Yeah, right. And they have a big game against the Packers, who they've already beaten, but that will be a tough game. But yeah, the Vikings are just... And Justin Jefferson is... It's Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase, depending on, you know...

They're both just the best receiver. Is that okay to say? Can I just say that? Can we make that an official declaration? Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase are the best receiver in the NFL. And Malik Neighbors is the best rookie receiver. Brian Thomas. And Brian Thomas, pretty good too. Graphic. Yeah. LSU. Yeah, LSU makes good receivers. So what's going on with the Seahawks offense? Is it time to have a conversation about Ryan Grubb? I just...

I don't know if it's the Seahawks' offense. Well, they couldn't run the ball today. They couldn't run the ball today. They don't try to run the ball. They tried, but they couldn't. No, not really. Not really. They didn't really try. Well, they also got down in the game pretty quickly. I mean, they were down 17-14 at halftime. Yeah, well, they scored to make it 17-14. They were down 17-7 pretty quick. Even in the second half. They never try to run the football. That's the thing about the Seahawks. Every week...

they say, you know what, we're going to recommit to the run. Try to run it. We've learned our lesson. We're going to establish the run. We're going to go out there, put our heads down, and we're going to play off the run game, and then we can go and play action. And they never fucking do it. They never even try to establish the run. Yeah. They don't try. And I feel like we've had that same conversation about the Seahawks for years. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, Kenneth Walker's been banged up a bunch, but yeah. I also just don't know what to think of Geno Smith because he is –

At times, great, and then he just tries to throw picks half the time as well. I also think that if you at least tried to run the football, then you could do play action, and then Geno Smith wouldn't be doing these things where he's sprinting away from five guys, throwing off his back foot while closing his eyes and saying a prayer and getting picked off. Yeah, that happens a lot for the Seahawks. It happens a lot, a lot. Yeah. Memes, did you like the three-way Jets playoff?

quarterback thing that was going on yeah fox is just highlighting that the jets are a qb factory and we know how to develop quarterbacks so they have success elsewhere yeah yeah so mark sanchez is calling a game with geno smith and sam darnold all first round jets quarterbacks or was geno first rounder yeah yeah yeah yeah i i don't know what to i think geno's good i think he's fine but i then i think he's bad geno would be a good bridge quarterback for the jets he would be

To maybe jump off that bridge. No, get Geno as a bridge quarterback and then sign Sam Darnold as your long-term option. Yeah. I'll take Sam back. There was a lot of Sam discourse. I don't know if you want... Just every time a guy sucks and then...

We should just remember that coaching matters so goddamn much. Kevin O'Connell is just a really good coach. Coach of the year. Yeah, now Sam Darnold would suck on the Jets. Yeah, he'd suck in a lot of other places. Kevin O'Connell is a great coach, and they have great receivers. It is the perfect landing spot for a quarterback right now. Yeah. Okay, Hank, welcome back. Bills 24, Patriots 21. Good game. Did Gerard Mayo save his job with that first quarter? Maybe. Hopefully not.

Well, your quarterback disagrees with you. Yeah, I like this. I like this comment from Drake. So Drake May said that he's had enough of the BS that there's a mutiny going on, that they don't want Mayo back. They want Mayo. But except for Hank. Hank doesn't want Mayo. What did he say? Is that exactly what he said? I think that was exactly what he said. I think it was more just backing up his coach was a sign of a good leader. It's maturity. I'll look it up. I'll look it up. I like that Gerard Mayo did the fake punt.

Think punt was good. Drake May threw a couple dimes. Patriots were frisky. Okay, here's what he said. This is him speaking on the negative dialogue surrounding the coaching staff. Stuff like that, I think it's some BS, to be quite honest. Coach Mayo, like I said, we've got his back. I think we're building something good. I'm proud to be a Patriot.

Yeah, so he doesn't say I want Mayo, but he had his back, which is respectable. Well, he was referring to the negative dialogue surrounding coaching staff as being some bullshit. Yeah. Which, again, he's having his coach's back. That's, again, sign of a leader. Commendable. He played pretty good. He had the touchdown pass in the first quarter was an absolute dot, but they lost. Obviously, when there's a lot of bad teams and, you know, the draft...

That was a good loss. You win a game, you can drop like six spots. That was a good loss. That was a good loss. How about Drake May being the best scrambling quarterback ever? Yeah, that's great. Per that graph. It was a great graph for you. Huge graph. And the Bills had their letdown spot after a huge win against the Lions and still won because that was – they didn't look good. I mean, their defense –

Got bullied in the first quarter. They did kind of bow up in the second half, forcing three turnovers. Then the backwards pass was kind of all she wrote.

for that game. Josh didn't play great. He also banged his funny bone. James Cook, though. James Cook is a weapon. He's awesome. And I also liked Jordan Phillips. Did you guys see that on the Bills? He wore a full coat under his uniform to warm up. He learned from the Tennessee Volunteers. I still don't understand why guys do that. It makes no sense to me. Yeah, it's actually bad for you to warm up without a shirt on. You do look cool as hell, though.

Yeah, but it doesn't do anything for like the tough intimidation. It really feels like you're just trying to prove it to yourself. Yeah, you kind of are. Yeah. Because it looks sweet. But the minute you do that, I'm like, you're going to lose.

Because you're just trying to do it to yourself. I mean, you guys went tarps off at Buffalo. It was cold. Yeah, because you were like, hey, let's take a picture of you fat fucks in the snow. And we're like, okay. It's a sick picture. The thing is, if you have to prove it to yourself. And we put our shirts back on two seconds later. And then went sat in a suite. If you're trying to prove to yourself that you're not cold by taking your shirt off, you're actually admitting that it does affect you. Yeah, it's in your head. But the cold's already won. Yeah.

It's also like they make clothes for a reason. That's true. It keeps you warm. It's pretty awesome. Yeah. You can wear like warm clothes and stay warm. Yeah. You have anything else this game? No. Good loss. Good loss for Hank. Good loss. Good win for Buffalo. Yeah. It was weird seeing them wearing the Patriots uniforms.

Yeah. Yeah, that was a little weird. Trash. Like, there were several times when actually, I think Drake May launched a bomb downfield. It got picked off. But then I thought that it was a Patriots receiver that caught it. Yeah. Even though the other uniform, it was a mind fuck. I didn't like it. What do you have in your, what is that? Max is playing with dolls. Yeah.

You're playing with dolls? I'm at the ADD portion. It's a Chucky thing. I've been scaring memes with it. Well, we have one last game. Memes don't look at the light. We have Raiders 19, Jaguars 14, and we have a special announcement. Okay, breaking news. Breaking news. You guys remember the Pop-Tarts Bowl from last year. Oh, yeah. Well, we got a big surprise. Hank, let's see it.

What do we got, Hank? We got the Pop-Tarts Bowl trophy. It's beautiful. Right here in studio. PFT, guess what? This trophy has a built-in working toaster. Can we get some Pop-Tarts going? Yeah, we sure can. Get some Pop-Tarts going. We got the Frosted Cinnamon Roll Pop-Tarts. I've never had this kind, actually, and...

It smells delicious. So this is the actual trophy they're going to give at the game. They partnered with GE Appliances to make the first ever championship trophy in all of sports that includes a built-in working toaster. Pop-Tart's delivering it on its promise of delivering crazy good surprises and a bowl experience like never before.

I'm so excited for the Pop-Tarts Bowl this year. You got to check it out. It's going to be an incredible game. December 28th at 3.30 p.m. Eastern on ABC. Two teams, three edible mascots, and a packed Camping World Stadium in Orlando. So mark your calendars. There's tons of surprises, and we have the trophy right here.

This thing's a masterpiece. This is the coolest trophy I've ever seen. I love that it is actually, it serves a purpose besides just being a trophy. I would have this on my kitchen counter. Winning this trophy, I'll say it,

Better than winning the national championship. Yeah, would you rather drink out of a trophy or eat out of it? Eat out of a trophy. Eat out of a trophy. I mean, how many people have eaten out of a trophy before? Yeah. I would say probably none. Yeah, so... I'd like to be the first. I would too. We're about to do it. So catch all the crazy good moments and get a sneak peek of each mascot by following at PopTartsUS.com.

and at Pop-Tarts Bowl on social and visiting pop-tarts.com slash bowl. This year, Pop-Tarts is bringing more flavor, more fun, and a whole lot of excitement. Don't miss it. Again, it is December 28th, 3.30 p.m. Eastern on ABC. Two teams, three edible mascots, and a packed Camping World Stadium in Orlando. So mark your calendar. Oh, it's ready. Let's go. Let's eat. Hank, you want some? I'd love some. Okay.

Oh, man. That's delicious Pop-Tarts. Hank here. You got a share? Oh, man. That's an incredible trophy. Max, how good does this look? It's incredible. I'm so jealous. Greatest trophy ever. So, again, check it out. December 28th, 3.30 p.m. Eastern on ABC. Two teams, three edible mascots, and a packed Camping World Stadium in Orlando. And the greatest trophy ever created, the Pop-Tarts trophy that is actually a toaster as well. I can't wait. I can't wait.

Okay, I think that's the best Raiders-Jaguars recap you could ever have, just getting to see the awesome Pop-Tarts trophy. It was incredible. Also, Brian Thomas Jr., very, very good. Yeah, and the Raiders screwed themselves in the draft. I think that might be the worst win of the season. Yeah, I'd agree. They went from the first pick in the draft to the sixth pick.

That's crazy. And they need a quarterback. Worst win of the season by far. That might, I don't know, Jacksonville, Tennessee, whoever wins that game, that might be the worst one. That could be very bad. Yeah, that could be very bad. Because they're in the same division, implications. Yeah, I mean, although Jacksonville doesn't need a quarterback, but yeah, the Raiders need a quarterback. Yeah. And they won that game. This is a must-lose.

Yeah. Also, Brock Powers continues to be incredible because he is 10 yards away from Dicka's rookie record, and he also is the first rookie tight end to have over 100 receptions. He's awesome. It's what happens when you have too good of a coordinator like Scott Turner. Yeah. He's, yeah, that's exactly what happens. And we got an update on his dogs. Did we say the update on the air? We did not. Okay, so his dog is a Rottweiler, right? Mm-hmm.

And then his parents' dog, is it a dachshund? Yeah. Small dog. So we were right on half of it. We were right on his dad being a small dog guy. Yeah. But he's not a small dog guy. Rottweiler. Yeah. Man dog. Also, great offensive coordinator because he has not been dealt the best hands. No. But Adel Connell, not so bad. No, but again, he might be too good. He might be too good. He might be too good. Go back to Desmond Ritter. See what you can do with him. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

Let me ask a Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Promo code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com. Promo code TAKE. Do you guys want to talk a little college football because we're not going to have a show on Wednesday? Yeah. It's a Roback question. How daunted are you, Big Cat? What, Hank? I'll let you guys go. I got some thoughts. No, let's hear it. Go ahead. Let's hear it. Go ahead. You're going to be so miserable in what you're about to say. No, go ahead.

All week long, this is going to be the greatest weekend of football, the greatest weekend of football, college football. Like, you don't watch college football. How can you not watch college football? Wait, I said this was going to be the greatest weekend of football? Many people were saying that. Okay. It was terrible. It was basically, it was essentially like, reminded me of week one. When you're playing random other teams from other conferences and it's just blowouts, no good games, not exciting whatsoever, just trash. Yeah, it was a bad first round. Bad football.

It was a bad first round. College football is the only sport that I think that people are more obsessed with arguing online than actually watching the games because we had just the whole, you know, Indiana loses. Indiana shouldn't be in. By the way, Kurt Cignetti, biggest coward pussy of all time. That's a bad pun. You should disavow. That was the most awful pun. You know what?

I disavow that punt. You can't talk shit like he talks shit on game day, being like, whenever we play a top 25 team, we beat the shit out of them, and then punt down 20 points, 20-plus points on midfield. Like, what a pussy. He has mastered the art of losing to way, way, way, way, way better teams, and then having the final score make it look like

Indiana was still kind of in the game. Yeah. He was literally playing for resume. Like, Indiana fans... Like, there was another playoff. Indiana fans at the end of the weekend were like, we actually lost by the least amount. It's like, we watched that game. That is true. That game was never close. You were never in that game. Also, I think you shouldn't like Kurt Cignetti.

Okay, so here's... Because he's going to take more of your players this year. I'll explain why I rooted for Kurt Cignetti this year. It's because at this point, I have to accept reality. I can fight reality or I can deal with it. JMU is a stepping stone school. We might as well be the best stepping stone school so we get the best coaches that want to coach for us. But still, he took your whole team. He's going to take more of your guys this year.

I'd hate that. He might... Like, that'd be a bullshit thing. It was a pussy punt. Insane punt. It was crazy. Listen, if you don't talk like Kurt Cignetti talks, whatever, you can be like, hey, the game's over. We're just going to get our ass kicked. We're never going to get it. It's fine. It would still be a pussy punt, but it'd be like, whatever. He talks so much shit, and then he does that. That was crazy to me. But either way, Hank, back to your point. Uh...

Yes, the game sucked. It is the first year of a 12-team playoff.

I think the seating obviously was a flaw in the system that they'll figure out. It should have been Boise State and Arizona State should have been playing this weekend. That should have happened. A team like Penn State should have had a bye. Texas should have had a bye. They should have done the byes based on the four highest ranked teams or whatever it would have been. I don't know if it would have been Notre Dame and Penn State. Either way,

They obviously have to figure out the seating stuff. Here's my counterpoint to anyone who's complaining about how the first round went. Because people, again, college football fans, there's a whole group of them that would rather complain online and do the debates and like...

SEC hypotheticals where the SEC has never lost a hypothetical. Like all Friday night it was like Alabama would have been better in this spot. Then you didn't hear them when Tennessee got boat raced by Ohio State. They kind of went away when you heard that when the two-win team from the SEC got absolutely smoked by the Big Ten. The team that beat Alabama. Right. Got smoked and then Alabama lost to Oklahoma. Yeah. A shitty team. Correct. And then Ole Miss...

you lose to Kentucky, another shitty team. You don't know. But yeah, no, they are right in that if you're an SEC school, a fan of an SEC school, you can just straight up say like, SEC is the best conference. We would have done better than that. Yeah, they've never, they're undefeated in hypotheticals. So...

Obviously, I'm not going to pretend that the games were good. They were not good. I also think you had four teams playing home games that were better than the four teams that were coming into their home stadium. So I wasn't totally shocked. I mean, the closest point spread was seven points. My pushback on anyone who's like, this doesn't work, blow it all up again. First of all, that's insane. It's the first year. Second...

What would be the alternative that you would rather have? Would you rather have Ohio State and Tennessee playing in the Peach Bowl that doesn't mean anything, that has 30 guys on each side opting out and transferring? Because that's what we did have.

We had guys opting out of the Rose Bowl two years ago. Listen, it was bad football, but it was still, they were trying. Meaningful. And it was also, it means something because they're going to the next round. And you get to look at the brackets and who moves on and what those next matchups are going to be like. And then that's where you run into some real complaining. Like Ohio State, by losing to Michigan, and credit to Ohio State, by the way,

oh they were awesome because they played really really well in a situation where like we didn't know if they were just going to have given up on the season correct but they went out there and they just beat the fuck out of tennessee but you're also in a situation where ohio state by losing that game to michigan ended up creating a great scenario for themselves and a bad scenario for tennessee although tennessee would have had to play indiana and

Indiana lost by less to Ohio State. That's true. Yeah, if you look at the score. I'm just saying. The scoreboard. Would I think Tennessee probably would beat Indiana? Probably. But Indiana did play better.

I mean, again, they scored late because Kurt Cignetti, that is what he does. Yeah, no. He's really good at that. Number one at Cignetti manufacturing a final score. Yeah, 10-point loss. Best loss of the weekend. But yeah, it was not a great weekend of college football, but I think as soon as they figure out the seeding,

which would be a lot better. So, yeah, what would it be, Max? So it would be if you go off the AP and then you switch Bama and SMU, like let's just say they keep Bama in. Well, no, you'd have to switch Clemson too, obviously. Correct. So it would have been Penn State, Clemson. Then it would have been Ohio State, SMU. That would have been an absolute rout. Yep. But then it would have been Tennessee, Arizona State. That would be a fun game, I think. Yep. And then Boise State, Indiana. Would have been a great game. Yeah.

So I think if you go off of that, it should fix something. Like the 5-12 kind of will look like a route again. But it kind of should be. Yeah, that's exactly the point. There should be some of that. The 5th-ranked team should beat the 12th-ranked team most times, especially in their home place. Like that's...

That's just a fact. And it's also not like college basketball. Right. It's not. Football's never going to be like that. It's a different sport where if you have one program that has by far more talent, it's not like you will find yourself lucking into a road victory against that team as a vastly inferior opponent. That's just not going to happen. And the only other point I had,

And this is where we react to these things in the moment. And I get it because I do the same thing all the time. I'm way too reactionary with all this stuff. This weekend sucked. But remember, the college football playoff going to 12 teams.

in my opinion, made this season so much more fun. Like, we had weekends that didn't have... that would not have meant anything mean something. Oklahoma beating Alabama meant something, whereas in the 14 playoff, Alabama probably would have already been out. So...

This weekend sucked, but you have to take what the 12-team playoff is, is not just this first weekend. It's everything that happened all season long that got us to this point, and it's also everything that's going to happen going forward where we have some really good... I mean, Penn State-Georgia is going to be a great matchup in my opinion. No, that's not... No, Notre Dame-Georgia. Notre Dame-Georgia is going to be a great matchup. I mean, we know Ohio State-Oregon is going to be a great matchup because we saw the game earlier. Again, the seeding part is kind of fucked up because...

They should have receded at least this year where Oregon should have played Arizona State or Boise State because Oregon got screwed having to be the number one seed, only undefeated team in the country, and having to play Ohio State. But it's a flawed first crack at it, and I'm sure they'll fix it. Yeah, so if you were to go off of...

the 12 it would have been oregon would play the winner of boise boise state indiana right yeah that makes more sense that makes sense right they got screwed but that's going to be an awesome rose bowl i mean the best game was probably texas clemson and that wasn't even that close no just for a second you thought oh clemson not as dead as i thought they were yeah they they came back in that game and uh but yeah i also like the nfl playoffs sucked sometimes too yeah the first round first last year i think sometimes stinks wasn't great um

And again, Penn State's a really good football team. Notre Dame's a really good football team. Ohio State and Texas are really good football teams. I expected them to win. I wish it was closer, but that's just kind of how it goes. Oh yeah, people are pointing out like last year was awesome, so they ruined it.

We still have this coming. The semifinals are still two rounds or a round away. We still have more chances for great games. I still think on a whole, we had two great playoff games last year. I think we'll get more than two great playoff games this year.

Do you think people would be upset of a Penn State-Notre Dame semifinal and then a Texas-Ohio State? Yeah. Those are good games. Right, yeah. We're going to get there. You're complaining about the appetizers. You haven't even ordered your entree. I'm not sleeping on Boise or Arizona State. So Penn State's winning.

No, I'm just saying we're going to get into games. Can we talk about that game real quick? Because I did bet Penn State, and it was based on the fact that that was the least big game of all time, and that's why James Franklin was going to dominate. Oh, yeah, that wasn't a big game at all. Even waking up, it didn't even feel like a big game. Kevin Jennings, the minute he started throwing those picks, you're just like, yeah, what is going on? Yeah, what was the mood like in the stadium?

Did it have big game feel? Oh, yeah. It looked awesome. The stadium was popping. All of my buddies were there. My brother, his wife were there. I heard unbelievable things from within the stadium. But that's also like... I'm happy that we got... The people that were at that game that go to a bunch of games every year got a college football playoff. Yeah. And got to be there for it. Yeah. But when...

What is his name? Jennings? Yeah. I just said Ken Jennings. Kevin Jennings, yeah. Yeah, Ken Jennings. He did the thing where he put it. He did the me where he put his hands over his ears. Yeah. And then they had to call a timeout, and then he immediately threw the pick six to Tony Rojas, and it was like there's no way they were ever going to win that game. Ever. Penn State didn't even play well. They did not play their best game at all. Yeah. And they just smoked them. How about the big game environment inside the horseshoe?

the band on the field. Yeah. What instrument was that lady playing where she just was like... Love it. She's probably a senior going out. That was... I felt something. I was like, this means more. Yeah. Also very funny where Penn State put SMU's band. Oh, all the way up top? It couldn't have been a worse section in the entire stadium. Yeah. So, Hank, are you going to give the next round of college football a shot? Yeah. I mean, I'm going to give them a shot. I just... There's a lot...

I love how we ended up. We lucked into a real Rose Bowl matchup. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Yeah. The Rose Bowl is going to be awesome. And then you have Notre Dame and Georgia playing right after. Yeah. And again, even if these games aren't close, I don't want to say that's sports. You can't. That's the beauty of sports. I don't know what's going to happen. You can't just say every time there's a blow up being like everything's broken. Fix it.

Do you remember when they went to the 14 playoff? I remember sitting and watching on New Year's Eve. That sucked. Alabama versus Washington. Yeah, it was versus Washington. Or was it Michigan State? There was a Michigan State 1-2 where they didn't score any points. And it was brutal. And then it slowly got better over years. But this is just a new system that they'll slowly figure out.

And I get it. There's probably only five teams realistically every year that could win a college football national championship. I still like having more teams involved and you can have the chance of something special happening in a single elimination tournament. There probably will never be a Cinderella to win it all, but I never expected that.

I mean, if you have teams that are loaded at the top with five-star players and then you get SMU going into Penn State, that's always going to happen. Yeah. But if you're SMU, at least you have that one week to be like, you know what? What if? Yeah. We could win the entire thing. And the game does mean something, too. If we keep playing this, I don't know, 25 years, there will be a 12 that beats a 5. It will happen because that's just football and that's sports, and it's weird like that. We used to have a computer pick the winner. Yeah. Yeah.

There would be a computer and be like, okay, I'm going to spit out a bunch of numbers. Oh, we have co-national champions this year. Yeah. Two teams would play in separate bowl games and have a chance to win a national championship. Yeah. Oh, you beat them. And then your team could win their bowl game, and then the computer doesn't pick you, and then you get to claim a national championship that nobody else will respect for the rest of eternity. Yeah. We're doing better. Which actually kind of rocks. Okay. Okay.

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Congrats, Charlie. Love that. He hit his first hole-in-one. I think it's just in tournament play. I'm sure he probably has a bunch otherwise. I think he said it was his first. Even better. Yeah. Hit a hole-in-one. That's what they always say. Him and Tiger lost in the playoff, so they almost won the whole thing. Yeah, fuck Bernard Longer.

Why? Because he's old? Well, apparently the guy's coming back from an Achilles injury and he's hitting from the senior's tees. That was crazy. 67 years old. He gets an additional 120 yards on every drive. Whose side are you on? I mean, he's 67 years old. So then don't play golf in a tournament like this. He literally walked like 100 yards up to hit his tee shot.

Senior tees. The one's crazy. They were in front of that. He was teeing off in front of amateurs. Yes. See, me personally, I'd have too much pride to do that. Same. I wouldn't hit from those tees. Same. Maybe I'd go one ahead. I'd hit from the blues. Also, he's won the tournament like seven times in a row. Enough, dude. Yeah, well, because he's got a system. Right. This guy's a hustler.

But yeah, Charlie Wood's sick hole in one. You thinking about it? No, I was just... His press conference afterwards was funny when he was like, yeah, you know, I thought I'd see my dad's best, but he actually played really well today. He played great. Charlie said that? Yeah. That's funny. You could tell Tiger was like, yeah, it used to be good. Like, I can be good, you know.

I have the ability to be a good golfer. And Charlie almost nailed that putt, too, on 18. I wanted it in so bad. We love Charlie Woods. He's our guy. You got it stolen away from him. Yeah. A moment taken away. You just can't feel good if you're Bernard Longer and you're hitting from the... His son's like 35. Yeah, his son's like... Charlie's 16 years old. And this guy, his son was in college like 10 years ago. He's like a doctor. Yeah.

Yeah, I didn't like that. Yeah, it's bullshit. Okay, PFT? I was going to say Charlie Woods too, but I'll just say people talking about Ricky Henderson. Yeah. Because he passed away and it's sad because Ricky Henderson was such an awesome, awesome baseball player to watch.

All his base-stealing records are just insane. They're the stats that you can look up and be like, oh, it takes somebody like 30 years stealing 70 bases a year to do what he did. And he played until he was old, but he was still really, really fast, and he was great to watch. Best leadoff hitter of all time. Yeah. But I'm just glad that people are talking about Ricky Henderson. Also the stories, whether it be the...

He framed his million dollar signing bonus check when he was a rookie or the famous John Ulrich story where he

He went up to John Ulrich and was like, hey, we used to have a guy who used to wear the helmet at first base when I was on the Mets. And John Ulrich was like, yeah, dude, that was me. We were teammates, Ricky. Yeah. So he was the best. It's sad because he was, what, 65 years old? Yeah. And he also was one of the only guys who I feel like was...

Everyone was okay with him doing first person. Yeah. He just would say, Ricky thinks this, and be like, yeah, that's cool. You're Ricky Henderson. He was a flashiest dude ever, but it matched up with watching him play. Yeah. So, yeah, you can get away with anything that you want, Ricky. He was born on Christmas. That's cool. Yeah, so flashy from day one. Yeah. Yeah, a player could steal 60 bases a year for 22 straight years, and Ricky Henderson would still have more stolen bases. Did he invent actually taking the base?

Like when he had a milestone stolen base where he'd just take it out of the ground. I don't know. This is my base now. The best tweet some baseball writer said is like, Ricky Henderson was actually the first guy to pimp and showboat home runs, but he would do it right in the pitcher's face, and the pitcher knew they couldn't bean him the next time he was up because if they beaned him, he'd be on third base in two pitches. Yeah.

Like you couldn't put them on base like intentionally. So yeah. What's that one? Ricky Anderson trying to find a seat on the team bus. Teammate tell, tell one of them to move. You got tenure, Ricky tenure. Nah, Ricky's been in the league 15 years. Yeah. There, I don't even know if half of these are true, but they're funny and he feels like he was just a legendary, legendary guy. Yeah, that was good. I had, I had it as my who's back as well. Um,

I don't know what my who's back would be then. Oh, I have one. Buy Mike Florio's book. Well, actually, you don't have to. It's free on Amazon on Christmas Day and Christmas Eve.

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He would appreciate it. We would appreciate it. Yeah. So he's the best. He'll always be number one Florio. Yeah. Number one Florio for sure. Do we have anything else, boys? I mean, we're not going to do a show Wednesday. We're going to do Friday. Our regular show will do Zoom on Friday and Zoom on Monday. And then we'll be back together the following Friday. Max, we good?

Yeah, I feel okay. Yeah. Yeah. One hour, fourth episode of PMT Talk Thursday. There was one moment where you were screaming it. I think you were screaming at PFT. It's okay. It happens. I love it.

I love it. Yeah. This episode. Yeah, I love it. I think it's the best because you're it's listen, we all have our passion. I got mad at you when you pulled up that fucking meme. Yeah, I know that's that was payback. But that's but we should we should be okay with getting mad at each other. That's what yeah, that's what makes the show great, right? We keep it in between the white lines. Yeah, except memes. He hates us outside. Yeah, that's actually true.

He carries everything with him afterwards. It is funny. Whenever I see anybody out in public, pretty much the only thing that they say is, fuck Hank. That's me. They think that I genuinely hate Hank. Yeah. They're like, I fucking hate Hank, too. It is funny when people think that.

It's like, yeah, we spend like 60 hours a week together. Yeah. We genuinely love each other. If you know Hank, you know he's not about the drama. It's also like... Literally. I don't... He's trying to exist. I don't know... Do you think there are friends... That's probably when you're in Philly. Do you think there are friends out there that like root for each other's teams to do well if they have different teams? That's very... For your guys' teams? No, you don't. Shut the fuck up. No, you don't. You literally bet against us to make the playoffs. Yeah.

Like, genuinely root for him? Like, there'll be times where I'll root... You liar. I bet on winning the Super Bowl, too. There'll be times where... Outside of bets. Outside of bets. But there'll be times when I'll root for your guys. But, like, genuinely be like, I want my friends' teams to fucking rock. That's crazy. Yeah, you want your friends to be just as miserable as you are. Right. I just said my goal for the NBA season. He's still laughing in his face. Right. Right.

I want both of you guys to have maximum paid in the playoffs. That's mean. It's the truth.

I actually would like PFT to win one game. That's mean, Big Cat. I would like PFT to win one game. You, Max. Actually, no, I'd like Max to go to the Super Bowl. That would be fun. It'd be great for the show. Okay, so would you actually be upset if the Commanders went to the Super Bowl? If they won the Super Bowl, I'd be like, this is fucking bullshit. Yeah. Absolutely. But if you won one game, I'd be happy for you. Genuinely happy for you for one game. That would be cool. What if I beat Max?

That would be very cool. But that would just, but he would like that more for my pain than your. Correct. No shit. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. So that actually would, I don't know. Cause like, it would be like kind of wasting. Like, I'd rather you win. Like if you played the Packers, I'd be fucking, I know that's not possible, but that would be incredible.

I'd be rooting very hard for him. Okay, so what about this scenario? The Packers play the Eagles in the first round. That's on the table. I'm rooting for Max hard. Hard. That would be the meanest thing the Packers could do to you is take the joy out of enjoying an Eagles loss. I would be more heartbroken than Max. Yeah. I think I would because I wouldn't be able to enjoy your loss.

The Packers would rob my joy. They steal all the joy. They would rob my joy of your loss from me. Think about that. Yeah, yes. I mean... Paint the picture again real quick of... Is it game seven?

Of the Eastern Conference Finals? What is it? Maybe, yeah, like there's 10 seconds left. I don't know. I just want to see Hank upset. He's never upset, ever. He almost died the other week. No, but that's different upset. But I'm pretty sure that we weren't even together during that.

I don't know. I'm pretty... Actually, no. He was pretty upset after losing the heat. I was thinking that was Memorial Day, but that was Memorial Day when they... The kiss. He was pretty upset when they lost the heat. I'm such a chill, happy guy. I'm sorry that upsets you. The chillest, happiest guy. All right. Merry Christmas, everyone. Well, no, we'll be back before New Year. Yep. Happy Hanukkah. Happy Kwanzaa. Happy every... Oh, that kid rocks. There's nothing like a...

Like a 12-year-old fat kid in a jersey. He was just going nuts for the game. This is great podcasting. All right. Numbers. 11. 3. Hmm. 33. 89. 21. 80. 80? I think 80 might hit. It's meme sentence, so no. Can I change my number? What did meme say? Can I change my number? Yeah. 81. I'll take 3. Fuck.

What is it? 89. Oh! Is that you? You got it? Yep. All right. Let's go. Wait. Wait. That better be it. Oh, this would be great. Nope. 68. Oh, you keep saying it. Let's go. Oh, man. Sorry. That's bullshit. Sorry. I didn't do... That's your job. You have one job. I understand, but that's a...

Have you ever guessed it by yourself, PFT? Look at it. PFT. Look at it. Yeah, but that's bullshit. That's bullshit. That's your job. What a great lotto. That's bullshit. It's 68. What's it called? Christmas? I'm sorry. I apologize, PFT. It's been a long day. What's it called? That's my bad. See, I'm not broken up by it because I've gotten it before. I fucked up. Yeah, you have. Yes, he has. Yes, he's gotten it. He's won. He's gotten it. I got it before. He's won. And also, the Clanners beat the Eagles today, so it's a good day. That's true. They did. Yeah.

Max, congrats. You won the National Championship in volleyball. Oh, Penn State. Congrats. Good job, Max. I didn't go to Penn State. I'm a fan of their football team. Love you guys.