The Thunder Win The NBA Title, Mariners Catcher Cal Raleigh AKA Big Dumper In Studio, Hank Is Back From Vacation And Kevin Durant Is Traded Again
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That's reef.com slash barstool for 15% off your first order over $49. On today's part of my take, the Oklahoma City Thunder are NBA champs. We recap game seven, Tyrese Halliburton's torn Achilles, which sucked.

Really, really big bummer for the Pacers, but a deserving champ in the Thunder. We throw some flowers on them. We also have big dumper in studio, future MVP Cal Raleigh, who hit four home runs since we recorded this on Thursday. So we'll update his on pace before we get to his interview. We'll talk Kevin Durant getting traded and

Henry is back. Yeah, he's back. We're going to end the show with Hank giving us some gifts from Pebble Beach because we gifted him a trip to Pebble Beach. A whirlwind vacation. A whirlwind vacation. Great to have him back. We also have who's back of the week. We're going to recap everything. And it's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. Nothing says summer like long days. Clutch plays.

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Congrats to the Thunder. Congrats to Thundor. Thunder. Our guy Alex Caruso. Thunder Princess. Thunder Princess. Game seven. All right, so game seven was a little bit of a bummer because of Tyrese Halliburton's Achilles. Let's save the two.

the talk about the Pacers and that, and we'll throw some flowers on the Thunder, much-deserving flowers, even though it was a bummer when Tyrese Halliburton tore his Achilles. Yeah, I mean, shout-out also to Isaiah Hartenstein's son. Yeah. I don't know if he's woken up yet, but that was adorable, just passed out during the trophy presentation. Listen, when you sleep, you sleep. He says, wake me up for the second one. Yeah, when you sleep, you sleep, which, I mean, should we start? We were...

Credit to us. This is the worst Oklahoma City Thunder team that will win a championship during this dynasty. They had to go to seven against the Nuggets. They had to go to seven against the Pacers. I don't expect that to happen ever again for them. We could also do the thing where we say just right off the bat, you know, I think whoever won that Thunder Nuggets series, that was going to be the champion. That was going to be the champion. No matter what. Yeah. But yeah, the Thunder, incredible season. Second most wins all time for a title team. Yeah.

The 95-96 Bulls had 87 wins. The Oklahoma City Thunder this year had 84 wins. The 96-97 Bulls also had 84 wins. Pretty crazy. 68 regular season wins. Obviously need the 16 playoff wins to complete it.

Pretty awesome season. They had the MVP. SGA goes down with an all-time season. All-star scoring title. Unanimous first team All-NBA. MVP. Most wins. Western Conference Finals MVP. Title. Finals MVP. That's just about the perfect season.

It really is. He ran the whole thing. At the start of the year, if you were to say, what would I possibly want out of the season? I think he checked off every single box. Yeah. If he did his little dream board. He had an Etsy dream board. He was like, man, I want to wish on these things. Maybe put a little something under his pillow saying, hopefully this year I'm going to become this. The first day of school, first grade.

Like, when I graduate first grade, I want to be able to read. Yeah. When I graduate this season... By the way, did you see... I think Lou Dort said it. He's like, game seven is like the last day of school. Like, you just got energy. You got to leave it all out there. It's like, I don't... That's not what school was like. School on the last day was just hectic. Yeah, it was just like, I'm not doing shit. You can't tell me shit, teachers. The last day of school, it was like jail. It was like, yeah, trying to escape from prison. Yeah, no, that's maybe one of the greatest seasons. Definitely one of the greatest seasons of all time that he had. Yeah.

If you were SGA, which one of those accomplishments would you be most likely to get tattooed on your body? Mm-hmm.

Wait, did he win? He didn't win All-Star MVP. That's the one. That's the one that alluded to him. That would have been it. Not the perfect season. That would have been it. There will always be an asterisk on the season for SGA. Yeah, he didn't win the All-Star MVP. But incredible season, wire to wire. The Thunder were the best team wire to wire for the entire season. And it felt like, you know, it wasn't a pretty game. Game sevens usually aren't. But...

They had their future basically all show up for a game seven in Chet, J-Dub, and SGA. Chet was great. Yeah. Chet was great. What do you have, five blocks tonight? Yeah, he was all over the place. The defense that got them there showed up big time in game seven. Insane defensive team. Just smothering. Anaconda chokehold defense. They were first in net rating.

First in defensive rating, third in offensive rating, and they're the second youngest championship team in NBA history. So the future is very bright, and that's a hell of a hell of a team. Also, they have a million picks. So we should say Sam Presti. I actually am very happy for Sam Presti. I'm most happy for Alex Caruso, our friend, but I'm very happy for Sam Presti. Sam Presti has been with the Thunder organization since they were the Sonics.

He was hired in 2007. Yeah, I think it was 2007. Went on, obviously, an insane draft run with KD, with Russ, with Harden, with Ibaka. That team was the second youngest finals team ever in 2012-2012.

ownership cheaps out. They have to trade Harden that falls apart, reconfigures them with, uh, Russell Westbrook and Paul George. That doesn't work. Paul George traded for SGA. This guy is one of the best GMs in any sport. And it's cool that he finally like 18 years, I think it's, he's been there. Uh, and he just won with the second youngest team his way and a, uh,

pocket full of picks going forward, and he's doing it in a small market team where it feels like the NBA out of all the sports was like the gap between the big markets and small markets had become profound. So pretty cool for him. Yeah, very cool for him. Also great trade picking up Alex Caruso. Well, that was a difference maker. He went on, you know, obviously he had the run of draft picks where he hit on, you know, the Harden, Durant, Russ.

in Ibaka and then he did it again when he got Chet and J-Dub and Giddy who became Caruso. You know, I mean that like the way he's been able to ship shape ship shape shape shape. Thank you. Shape shape the Thunder organization like

Time and time again, and we were talking about it, they didn't tank. They had two bad years. They didn't tank. They rebuilt. They didn't do a process. They didn't rebuild. They reloaded. Yeah. So he's an all-time executive, all-time GM building this team. And yeah, they're going to be good for a really long time.

Yeah, so if we're going guy for guy, this is the best team in the NBA this year, right? We can say that definitively. I would say that's definitively the case. Uh-huh. Right? Yeah. I think you can't make an argument against that. No. You can't at all. Do the right PFT. And they did have to battle back tonight. They were down at halftime. People forget that. They were down by a point. People are forgetting left and right that the Pacers were up at halftime tonight. T.J. McConnell was like their entire offense in the third quarter for the Pacers.

No, like literally, though. Yeah, their entire office. Yeah, there was that stretch where they're like, in the last six minutes of game time, T.J. McConnell's the only one who scored. And that means also the good and the bad because he also, I think he had seven turnovers tonight. Yeah. But everybody on the Pacers had at least one turnover except for the guys that got in for the very last minute of the game. Yes. It was just a clinic, a defensive clinic by the Oklahoma City Thunder.

The second half, they just got ahead and just choked him out. Choked him out. Chokehold. Anaconda chokehold. That's what it was. Do you want to hear a crazy stat? This is maybe a wow. I don't know if it's a wow. I have two wows for you, actually. The first one is... Ooh, nice, Hank. Adam Silver has just crowned his ninth different champion in his 12 postseasons as NBA commissioner. In David Stern's 30 postseasons, how many champions did he crown?

12. 10. What? Yeah, that's a whoa. So this is the seventh different champion in seven years, which is crazy. Parody is very much here for the NBA. But isn't that nuts? 30 years for David Stern. He crowned eight unique champions. 12 years for Adam Silver. This is his ninth different champion. That does make you think. Warriors and then all new ones.

It's the Warriors, Cavs, and then, yeah, I mean, the last seven years have been Raptors, Lakers, Bucs, Warriors, Nuggets, Celtics, Thunder. It does make you think what a great job David Stern did of building up the Dynasty franchises, right? Yeah.

Yeah, he did. He really did it. But I like this. I like new, fun, entertaining styles of basketball, getting to meet up in the postseason teams that you don't normally see. The Pacers, yeah, they didn't get it done in Game 7, but they play such a fun style of basketball, and it was a joy to have them in the postseason as long as we did. I really enjoyed watching Pacers basketball. Yeah. All right, so you looked it up, Zach. So, yeah, so the Spurs were the first title he crowned.

unique ones in the last seven years and then you throw in the Cavs, right? That would be nine.

Spurs, Cavs. I count all the bronze as the same. It's pretty nuts. Yeah. Seven in seven years. Do you want to hear the really crazy woe that I saw on Friday that I was hoping would come true for the Pacers? If Rick Carlisle had won this game, he would have been the oldest NBA coach to win an NBA title. That is crazy. He also was the oldest coach to coach an NBA finals game. How old is he? 65 years old. He doesn't...

He does not look 65. Older than Pop. Everyone was throwing out. I saw the replies. It was like, Pop? Larry Brown? Larry Brown was 64. Pop was, you know, whatever, 12 years ago. So he was 64. Yeah.

Rick Carl is not 65. No, and it also goes to show you that if you look at any coach from the 90s or the 80s, or God forbid, the 70s, if you're a 45-year-old head coach, you look like you're 70 back then. Like Jim Leland, the baseball manager, looked like he was 90 years old when he was 40. Yeah, yeah. That's the oldest coach in NBA history, not the oldest coach to coach a finals game, Zach. So that would be the finals game part. Yeah, pretty crazy. But yeah, the Thunder...

Awesome, awesome season, and they're not going anywhere. They have so many picks. Impossible amount of picks. I mean, the fact that they were a lottery ball away from being the third pick this year.

Or no, they wouldn't have gotten the third. What was it if they had kept the Sixers? Six pick would have been where they keep it, Max? Is that right? Seventh. We had top six protected. That's right. But I mean, it's insane how many picks they have. And they have a super young team. And like I said, the J-Dub, Chet, SGA threesome looks like it's going to be here for a long time. Because J-Dub was great in these finals too. He was, yeah. Speaking of the Sixers...

next year, I threw this out there to Max, is next year the Sixers' year? Mm-hmm. I feel like this is their year now, the East being wide open as it is. Yeah. So for the Pacers, I think that's got to be one of the all-time gut punch end of seasons, considering the fact it was a magical ride. They've never won a title as a franchise. Tyrese Halliburton gets hurt there, and he's going to be out for a year.

I don't really know. And also thinking about even how this series went, they were a quarter away from being up 3-1. I feel so bad for Pacers fans. Magical, magical run, and that's just as bad as bad gets. It sucks. The moral of the story, if you have any sort of a calf injury, just don't play basketball. Well, that's... I mean, Tyrese Halliburton, it's the same thing that happened to Kevin Durant in the finals when he came back and snapped his Achilles. The...

If he doesn't play, he's going to be dubbed as soft and didn't want it for his guys. And then if he does play, this is exactly what could happen with a strained calf, and it sucks. He's put in an impossible situation, and I feel really, really bad for him after an incredible run where he just... How many clutch shots did he hit? A million? If you're Halliburton, you have to play, but it should...

It should now make players think. Yeah. We've seen this a couple times where the Achilles injury wasn't something that happened as frequently as it does now. There's going to be a big conversation about the length of the NBA season and are these guys too big, strong, fast because we had Dame –

Tatum, Halliburton. All wear the number zero. Yeah, all wear the number zero. All tore their Achilles in these playoffs. Season maybe goes too long. That's definitely going to come. That's coming. I'm going to take it back even further. I'm going to say all the way back to youth basketball and AAU. Have these guys played too much basketball? Yeah, maybe. Too much basketball. And shout out Paul George for getting the thunder all of these years.

Yeah. He gave him everything. It was still a... It actually should be a Paul George ring. He should get a ring. It was a great postseason for the Pacers. It sucks that this is like the biggest damper that you could ever put on it because you also now kind of have to punt on next year. It's brutal. It's absolutely brutal. I feel awful for Pacers fans. I even said it while we were watching it, like...

I think when it was pretty much a tie game, I was like, if you're a Pacers fan, would you right now, if you go back in time, lose game six?

So you have a chance to have Hal Burton for next year and build on a finals run that was incredible. It just sucks. No. I know, but it's like the sliding doors of like if they lose game six, Hal Burton does not – he's there for next year. He gets his calf rested. He's back and ready to go. And it just sucks that you – it's like a double loss. It's not just a loss. It's you lose – you're half away from an NBA title. What, Hank? Yeah.

I'm saying that. Yeah. You go from do you think you're going to win the title to everything's in. Yeah, but they were in the finals. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. When this happened. You know how they feel, though, is what you're saying. You know exactly how they feel. I was talking about how, yes, I was relating to Indiana Pacers fans. Yeah. Not with anything personal, but. Just in general. Yeah. Also, yeah, I don't really know what's positive. I mean, Pascal Siakam's awesome. He was incredible. Like, I know this game wasn't his best game, but, like,

The entire playoff run, he's an absolute... And people were ready. How much merch would have been sold with the nickname The Thundertaker with his eyes, the picture of him before game six? So yeah, about that. I don't know who he was talking to, which spirit he was summoning. There's a chance that he was like, I will do anything to win this game six. And then the finger on the monkey paw curled and it was like, okay, you got it.

but you have to pay with your Achilles' nuts. It's brutal. Yep. I don't think that there's no chance that a Pacers fan in the moment would have said, yeah, I wish that we had lost game six. Now they do. Yeah, for sure. Well, I was more saying it knowing that it's going to be a tall task to win this game without Tyrese Halbern because it –

Look, the Thunder are deserving champions. You can't put an asterisk on them. If you're a Pacers fan, you will forever say what if, especially how Tyrese Halliburton was playing in that first quarter. He finished the game the leader in three-pointers made. Yeah. And he played for, what, seven minutes? So you could tell he was kind of feeling it. And we know that when the lights get really bright, Tyrese Halliburton comes through.

he had that kind of feeling to him in this game, how it started. So you will forever say, what if, what happens if he, if he doesn't tear his Achilles, do we win this game? I think maybe it's a fair, what if you're a Pacers fan? Yeah. I think this off season, you might just build around TJ McConnell.

Free agents are going to be beaten down the door to play with TJ. They didn't need to show TJ McConnell crying after the game. I needed to see that. They didn't need to show that, but they had to. Yeah, but I didn't want to see it. We didn't need to see Tyrese Halliburton's ankle snapping like two dozen times. I think they're going to play that. There's going to be a brand new ESPN channel, ESPN Ouch, and it's just going to be Halliburton's ankle just disintegrating. Do you know why I think they kept on showing it, PFD? I think...

because we now have seen enough of these Achilles injuries in high-level moments in the NBA that we all sitting and watching can point to it and be like, yep, that's an Achilles and feel like doctors. Diagnose it immediately. That the broadcast is like, we're going to show this 17 times because we know definitively. Usually a guy gets injured, you're like, we don't know. We have no idea. We don't know what it's going to be. This one, you can see the pop.

And everyone feels so smart being like, I know that. Listen, I went to medical school. I fucking know that. It's an Achilles. They give me a great idea. They should actually do ESPN Ouch. And it's just injuries nonstop. I'd watch it. Just brutal injuries. No commercials. Serving sports fans anytime, anywhere. I'm a sicko for that.

The Achilles, though, does make me squirm a little. I'm not going to lie. I would rather a leg break or even like a knee bend versus an Achilles. I don't know something about an Achilles when you see the pop. Zach has just been playing it this whole time. Yeah, no, he's just he's the pop is bad. We're clockwork orange right now. We got our eyes open watching this over and over. Any other thoughts on the end of the NBA season? It was kind of a perfect NBA day where Kevin Durant getting traded again.

like kind of took all the headlines when you had a game seven for the first time in almost a decade in the NBA. Yeah. I mean, that, that sums up the NBA. My big takeaway right now from the NBA season being over is it's football season. It is. It does feel like whenever that happens, like, all right. And it's Mount Rushmore Wednesday, Wednesday, Mount Rushmore. It's common. But yeah, that was crazy. How Kevin Durant found out that he was traded on stage at the fanatics fest. Hmm.

Hmm. Interesting. So he's going to the Rockets. Hmm. Good fit. A lot of hmms at the Fanatics Fest. Very big hmm. Hmm. Tom Brady winning a million bucks. Hmm. Trophies getting broken. Hmm. Great fit. Rockets are going to be very good. Yeah. Great fit. They needed a go-to scorer. Kevin Durant is still a go-to scorer. You also, like, I don't really...

It's not like the Suns got a huge haul. I think the Suns actually, like reading this trade, they got Dylan Brooks, Jalen Green, and five second round picks. And this year's first, which was their first. They got it back. They got it back. I think Ishbia was like, hey...

I need people who just read Twitter and have the attention span of a goldfish who just keeps scrolling. I need them to think that I did well in this trade. Make it five second round picks. Because I don't know if you guys had the same feeling, but when I scrolled by it, I was like, damn, five?

When I saw it, I was like... And then I read it again. I was like, oh, second round picks. I was like, that's a lot of assets. Yeah, right. You just call them assets. You don't describe where they are, who they're from. Then you can't just spend them. It's valuable. It's something of value. It's not a terrible strategy, but I managed to be... If I were an owner, I'd be like, hey, give... I'll trade you my superstar. How about you give me 27 second round picks?

Yeah. Just so I can see the Shams tweet and be like, look at that, guys. I trade my Silverado for 20 broken down cars that don't work. Yeah, no, the Suns are trying to build the whole plane out of shooting guards. Yeah, so they have, I think they've got their entire salary cap space devoted to four guards. Yeah, it's basically all wings. It's all wings. Their whole team is wings, like $180 million to wings.

I think they'll probably trade. Well, the problem is they can't trade Bradley Beal, which is the one they want to trade. Bradley Beal, his full name is now Bradley Beal's no trade clause. Yeah. Yes, because he's never getting traded. I assume the Suns are going to do something. Otherwise, it would be funny if they're like, hey, what if we just

Wings are very important in the NBA today. Let's just bring out a bunch of these guys. Yeah, I have no idea what they're doing. No one can bring the ball up. And it was like a year and a half ago that Matt Eshpia said, like, we're not far away. We're very close. Yeah. This stuff isn't hard. Since Kevin Durant left Golden State, he's been traded three times. One was a sign-and-trade, and he has two playoff series wins. What does this mean for Kevin Durant's legacy?

Are you saying if he goes to the Rockets and wins? No, I'm just saying. What is the trade? I just like to end when Kevin Durant is in the news. I like to end every sentence like, hey, what do you want for breakfast? And what does this mean for Kevin Durant's legacy? I think this means that Kevin Durant is perpetually unhappy and is made more unhappy in his quest to find happiness. Okay, that feels good. Hank, what does this mean for Kevin Durant's legacy?

He's got to win now or else he's just going to go down as all time. I mean, he'll go down as all time guy no matter what, but. I got a problem with this meme, by the way. He's got to win. Zach just pulled it up. Kevin Durant has officially completed the NBA Rainbow Challenge. Uh,

I don't count this because, as you can see, he's got a blue Suns and a purple Suns. They basically did this because Shaq was the originator of this. Shaq did complete the Rainbow Challenge naturally. I think Chris Paul did as well. In the Rainbow Challenge, obviously, we're talking about wearing all the colors of the rainbow in all the jerseys and teams you played for. Look, Shaq did it in a natty way. He actually did it. He had...

He had the Heat, the Suns, the Lakers, the Celtics, the Magic, the Cavs, and the Lakers. Oh, I guess there's two Lakers in there, but I feel like he had another one thrown in there. I don't count it if you have to use the weird alternate Suns jersey. I also think that him as a Cleveland Cavalier, I don't know if that's Indigo. Yeah, true. The eye for Indigo. We could find some football players that have done that for sure. Yeah, the Rainbow Challenge. But yeah, Kevin Durant's legacy. I'm excited to talk about it.

And that was Kevin Durant's legacy. I think it's worse for his legacy if he wins. With the Rockets, I think it's good. If he gets a ring. I think that's a team he can go to. Because it's a young enough team that he can be like, yeah, they needed Kevin Durant. Because it's almost a perfect setup for him.

They were good this year. They were the two seed. They got bounced in the first round of the playoffs. Now Kevin Durant shows up, shows the young bucks how to play basketball, how to play winning basketball. All credit to Kevin Durant. Let's see. Who else do the Rockets have going into next year?

Shingun, that's a good piece. Yeah. No, they're a good team. Ahmed Thompson, they got Fred Van Vliet still. He's going running back home to the comforting arms of Steven Adams. Yeah. No, they are a good team, and with Kevin Durant, they could be a great team. So I think it's going to be good. They did not have that guy in the playoffs that would step up. But if the Rockets had gone to, let's say, the Western Conference Final, I think it would have been bad for Kevin Durant's

uh legacy the fact that they got bounced in the first round by an aging warriors team good for kevin durant's legacy one of my favorite topics kevin durant's legs i can't wait i hope they run into the warriors again that'd be great that'd be great great theater credible uh okay hank do you want to talk a little golf yeah great golf the fifth major i'm very i'm very interested to see what you have in that bag of yours we'll do that after cal raleigh but

How was... Well, no. We'll talk about the trip after. You want to talk about the fifth major? Yeah. Drafts. What did you see? Great tournament. Specifically hole 13, 14, and 15. It was more like 15. I was... I wouldn't even say asleep. But I was watching all day. I didn't leave my couch. It was so fucking hot out. Like too hot to even want to go outside. So I was locked in. But yeah. I was listening. I was actively listening. Yeah.

to like hole 16, 17. What do you mean actively listening? Like I was listening. I wasn't necessarily watching. I wasn't asleep. I don't know that I was 100% conscious. But yeah, 15, 16, but I was back for 17, 18. You're browning out. Tommy Fleetwood. I love the Travelers. I mean, we went in 2015 with Barstow, with Keegan was the people's golfer. We followed him around for a couple days. I was Jim Renner.

That was 2014. Oh. 2015, Jim Renner was no longer on the PGA Tour. Keegan was People's Golfer 2.0. So we followed him around, the Travelers. But it's like, you know, only event they have in New England. It's great that Keegan, like, for whatever reason, he won a couple years ago, set the scoring record there. Turns it up for the home crowd.

But it was a great, like Tommy Fleetwood, great dude, great golfer, super fun to watch, has never won on the PGA Tour, even though he's really good and always, you know, I think he had like...

What, 10 or 13 top 10 finishes without winning one? 42 top 10 finishes. He's never won a PGA Tour event. Never won a PGA Tour event. It's insane that he's never won a PGA Tour event. It was a great, like, whoever wins this, this is going to be good. I honestly felt as cool as it was for Keegan.

I felt really bad for Tommy Fleetwood. Yeah. I don't really feel bad for Tommy Fleetwood. He choked. Bad. He did choke. That's a choke that... I was rooting for Keegan Bradley. I don't want to feel ashamed about rooting for Keegan. I was yelling USA at my TV. Yeah, that's fair. You know, like I... Okay, I'm sorry Tommy Fleetwood didn't win. I hope he does at some point.

but I'm not going to go as far as to be like, oh, man, I feel so bad. This kind of takes away from the moment. No, fuck that. I wanted Keegan Bradley to win, and when he hit that approach to what, like four feet? And then Tommy Fleetwood hit his a mile away and then putted and then left himself –

beyond Keegan Bradley's ball to give him a read, a perfect read at the putt. I was pumped about all that. That was good. Listen, everything that happens from this point on in golf is a setup for the Ryder Cup. Right? And now there's a lot of talks with the Ryder Cup. He's the captain, Keegan Bradley. He's the captain. Right now he would be a playing captain. People are saying they might bring in Tiger to be the captain captain because playing captain might get complicated.

But Keegan's playing so well that those conversations are happening, which is awesome. Yeah. Do you think a playing captain is an issue? No. Why not? I mean, every other sport has playing captains. Yeah, but not necessarily that are deciding. Is it a problem that Derek Jeter played? That's a different. Derek Jeter's not setting the lineup. I'm just saying. There's a manager. Different. Different circumstances. I don't understand what a captain is. They're called captains.

If he is a playing captain, that means that he can't ride around on a golf court with like a little headset in and a walkie talkie and talk about God knows what for four hours. No, he can do that still when his round's over. Yeah. So what's the issue here?

I don't have an issue with it either. I'm just saying that's what people know. People in the golf media world are saying it might be an issue. I say put the C on his chest and put him out there. I do too. You look at hockey, all the captains play. Well, the golf media world is also pretty soft at times. For sure. I saw some people being like, Tommy Fleetwood deserved to win. No, he didn't. He choked. I wanted him to win. I was hoping that he would get the monkey off his back, but he choked.

And Keegan Bradley was electric going down the stretch. And Tommy Fleetwood, he did have a good – on Saturday they asked him about it, and they're like, you're the top player to not win a PGA Tour event in the last 40 years because, again, he's had 42 top 10 finishes, 28 top 5 finishes.

five third places, six runner-ups. He's made 135 out of 159 cuts. He's basically in every single tournament. He was like, well, at least I'm number one in something.

So good for him. If you want to blame somebody for all this, you can blame Rory McIlroy. Do you see what Rory said? Yes. So they interviewed Rory after his round was over, and it looked like Tommy Fleetwood was going to win the tournament. And they asked him, your thoughts on Tommy Fleetwood? It's been a long time coming for him on the PGA Tour. He said, yeah, Tommy's been a great player for a long time, and he's more than due, or he was more than due. So yeah, he's got so much talent and so much ability, and obviously it's great to see him get over the line.

Before the tournament's over. Yeah. Not great. Bad guy. Not great. This is why he doesn't talk to the media. Yeah. Yeah. He's trying me hardest. I just tried me hardest. Tell me that. I just tried me hardest out there. It's a very difficult fold. I had a question for you guys. Do you guys think it's a little weird that the Panthers are mocking the Oilers to such a crazy extent?

I say go for it. No. You got him twice. You beat him twice. Yeah, but that's the thing. They beat him twice. It does feel like they're going a little extra hard. Maybe there was more bad blood. What? I think you've won a cup before. Everything's a blur for the first week and a half after. I'm not saying bad or wrong. I'm saying weird. I'm asking, is it weird? I don't know.

It feels like maybe something happened that we don't know about. I think they don't like each other. The Panthers don't like any team that they play. But I'll agree with you on this one, Big Cat, that when you win a Stanley Cup, at least in my personal experience winning a Stanley Cup, I felt more animosity and more like double bird, fuck you, to all the other teams in my conference. Right. Like the natural rivals that you go through. And then you win the Stanley Cup and it's like...

you're not that fixated on the team that you just beat. And they beat them twice. It would be one thing if it was like the Oilers had beaten them twice, then the Panthers beat them.

Again, I don't care. I think it's fun to start rivalries and all that stuff. I was just saying more weird that like, why are they so obsessed with the Oilers? Did I miss something? I was almost like curious, did I miss some story about shit talking or like one of the Oilers players said something that's unforgivable to the Panthers? So when you think about like having more of that animosity and the fuck you energy towards the guys in your conference...

They did start a rivalry with Edmonton over the last two. Since they played them twice, they've got that history. But they beat them twice. I know, but that's what I'm saying. They've got that history with them, so now they're more focused on being like, hey, fuck you, Edmonton. It's not a rivalry, though. It's not, and they're letting them know. Because they beat them, yeah.

Beat him twice. I just saw, did you guys see, Goalie Bob had a great quote. I like that. He's the humble king. He said, when asked about how he celebrates, it's definitely a fun time, but I don't know. I'm a little different. I celebrate a little different. I'm not overexcited about the things. As I said, I feel humble and appreciative for the opportunity. Yeah.

That's such a classic goalie quote. Yeah. That's great. Rank all the champions from this year. Okay. All the major... So the Dodgers, the Eagles, the Panthers... Duke. The Thunder. Duke basketball. Duke did not win. They didn't? It was Florida that won. Duke didn't win? Yeah. Oh, okay.

What, Max? Zach is Googling. Zach is Googling. And he's just like, look up Bob. Bob Brotsky. First name Brotsky last name. And it's just an 87-year-old pushing a sleigh. Bob Brotsky. Bob Brotsky. Okay.

Yeah. Sorry, sorry. I just wanted you guys to see that. That sounds like my neighbor's name. Are we doing 2025 or are we doing? Just this calendar year. Let's do this officially because we want to do. Dodgers. Put it on a card to get people pissed. Dodgers, Eagles, Panthers, Thunder, Florida basketball, Ohio State football. Okay. Rory McIlroy. Okay. I'm going to go Dodgers number one.

I'm going to go... I might go Panthers, number one. Okay. So let's go Dodgers. I'll go Dodgers. You go. Then Panthers, two. Yeah, Panthers, two. Panthers, two. So Dodgers, one. Panthers, two. Let's see. Florida basketball is pretty awesome. I might put Florida basketball, two.

No, you know what? I think the Eagles should be number two. No, I was hoping they would be lower than that. I mean, they beat like a hurt Chiefs team. Chris Jones didn't play half the fucking Super Bowl. Okay, all right. I would go Dodgers, Panthers, Florida basketball, Ohio State football, Thunder. LSU baseball. LSU baseball, Eagles. Rory McIlroy. Rory McIlroy. All right, make that on a quote and let people get pissed about that. Best champions. Best champions of the year.

That feels good. I think if the Dodgers played any of those teams, Dodgers in five. Oh, ahead of the Eagles, you also have Alcaraz. Yep. He was awesome. Great list. That's a great list. That's a great list. Hey, wait, you never answered. Is it the Sixers year?

I don't know. I mean, think about it. East is wide. Yeah, wide open. Maybe if Embiid is healthy. Celtics don't have Tatum. Pacers don't have Halliburton. Knicks don't have a head coach. You guys are good. I don't know if Embiid is walking. What does that mean? I haven't seen a picture of him walking. Are you reporting something we don't know? I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I don't know.

Joel Embiid has not been cleared to walk. Joel Embiid. It's like a two-year-old. Joel Embiid is taking his first step. Yeah. We need an AI of baby Joel Embiid taking his first step. He's ready to play. Zach's spelling back here is just incredible. He just spelled Embiid I-M-B-E-E-D. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Oh, man.

Zach. It's football season. Shout out to LSU baseball, though. Champions. Ah, crazy.

Last game. Great job by the umpire. Coastal's manager gets kicked out, and then their bench coach gets kicked out in the first inning. Arguing balls and strikes. Yeah, the ump falls. He flopped. He flopped, but he was embarrassed. If you get embarrassed like that as an ump, it should be retroactive. Everyone gets to stay in the game because that was a loser move by him. I got to say, great job next ump up.

because that, that ump came in and he was trying to like stand in between the manager and the home plate umpire. That's always like somebody's job is to like intercept the argument. He immediately falls over. And then the next guy was in great position to back him up and stepped in to handle that duty and keep him away from the home plate umpire. So great job by the umps. That's what we came to see today. We absolutely wanted to make sure that we saw them. It was the ump show. Uh, but yeah, LSU did feel like they were a team of destiny. Um,

Also crazy they played this game in the middle of the afternoon. Yeah, that was wild. I know there was game seven. There was Sunday night baseball, but you got to have a championship game can't be played in the middle of the afternoon. I agree. I was hoping that Coastal was going to win this one so we could get a meaningful game tomorrow. Just meaningful sports. It would have been nice to have one game. Yeah. One game. By the way, we should update real quick because we're going to get to our Cal Raleigh interview.

He had a pretty big weekend at Wrigley. Also, Sammy Sosa was back for the first time in a long time on Friday, which...

I don't know. The Cubs did it like secretively and then it word got out, which was kind of weird, but he's getting inducted into the Cubs hall of fame later this year. That's good. But this was like a tie, a trial run of sprinting in. No, they, they, they had him just walk in and made sure that there was a video of Ricketts giving him a hug, getting out of the SUV. Uh, so nice moment. Uh, but yeah, Cal Raleigh hit four home runs this weekend. Crazy. So when we get to our interview with him, which was great, uh,

I think we did all of our on-pace stuff for his 27 home runs as of Thursday. He had four more, so he's got 31 home runs. He is now on pace for 67 home runs, which is pretty fucking insane. That's pretty good. Pretty insane. Yep. We think Otani, face of Major League Baseball. Cal Raleigh. Cal Raleigh's the ass. Yeah. He's the ass of the MLB. Listen, I went to the game today. His dumper is...

like seeing it in baseball pants it's a dumper i was showing to my buddy over the weekend i was like yeah we interviewed this guy cal raleigh he they call him big dumper because he got a giant butt my friend was like his ass isn't that big i was like dude dude let me put you on his ass real quick yeah no when he's when he's got his baseball pants on he's got a fucking dump an absolute dump okay should we do who's back the week uh game time by the way game time hank

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Hank, who's back of the week? Yeah, we went over a lot of them. USA is back. Keegan Bradley. Captain America. Sammy Sosa back. Back in the friendly confines. Rushmore season. Yes. Back on Wednesday. Very excited. Very excited. So we have the teams. Should we announce them? Yeah. All right. Let's do it. Let's do it. So it's going to be the Booth Boys, Max and Beams.

John Wilkes. Hank and PFT. My good friend Hank. Yep. PFT Enterprises. And me and Zach. And so it's going to be three teams, which we feel like that's a good... Because when we do like... If we did five solos, it would...

It would be tough to pick Mount Rushmore. You know what? Lesser men than me and Hank would complain about being teamed up with the other one because we did finish last and second to last last season. But this is just a great comeback story for it. What a great opportunity we have, Hank. Yeah, and PFT and I, we're in lockstep. We're kind of all eyes focused on the internet invitational, so this is just another way for us to get closer. Yeah. Work together. No bicker.

No bickering. No bickering. Yeah, this is going to bring us closer than anything. The thing about me and Hank is that when people say that we get into fights, it's all a bit. And we're never actually in fights with each other. You guys just don't get it. We don't even have to debate. We'll just know. It's kind of like let's read each other's minds. No, we should debate a little bit. It's going to be awesome.

So we're going to do it. Please submit. Why not? Absolutely debate. Please submit. Hank's already beat a piece of shit about this. Mount Rushmore ideas. Mount Rushmore ideas. What you want to hear. We've done a lot of them. It's our ninth Mount Rushmore season. Covered a lot of them. But I can't wait for Mount Rushmore season. Water. I can't wait for a color. Mount Rushmore of yellow things. I can't wait for a color. I think we're going to have to lead with the color.

Color ones are the best. Colors are great. Zach, are you ready for this? Zach, on Friday, we had him do. Were you here for his pistachio ice cream?

No. Yeah, we asked him to, like, on the spot, Mount Rushmore of ice creams, and he... Oh, I heard that. I listened. The fourth was pistachio, so that's a problem. You listened to the whole show? Yeah. The boys driving back from Pebble, we listened. Oh. Oh, because I heard... I also might have fallen asleep during that. I heard a rumor, Hank, that you were wondering when we're going to be interviewing Cal Raleigh. Well, that was the PMT group text. You thought that maybe it was today that we were going to be interviewing him. Well, the text was...

Memes, memes, memes is on my, memes is on the pit. This is crazy. Memes text in the group text, what are we running, who are we running tomorrow? I said Cal Raleigh and then you text him on the side saying, when are we interviewing Cal Raleigh?

memes tweet about Cal Raleigh like a hundred times what's the game plan for interviews today just Cal Raleigh for Monday's show yeah so interviews today I thought that and you said Cal Raleigh for Monday yeah I thought that meant you're interviewing Cal Raleigh today for Monday again we interviewed him last Thursday he was here we you guys blessed me with a vacation true true true true true true true true

True. And maybe he came in and then he was going to do the interview. Like the way that was worded, what's the game plan for interviews today? Yeah. And you answered, Kyle Raleigh. So is that your only who's back? It's just a show announcement? Sammy Sosa, Keegan Bradley, Karen Reid's back. Karen Reid. Yeah, so what happened with Karen Reid? She's innocent. She got ruled innocent. She got off? Yeah. Good for her. Good for her. Good for her. Karen Reid's back. A lot of women never get off, yeah.

I can't wait to watch another Netflix documentary about it. I do think there will be another one and I'm excited to watch it. So was it a hung jury or was it... It was a hung jury the first time. And this time not guilty. So it was innocent. Yeah. Not guilty. She got charged for... The DUI? Yeah, operating a vehicle under the influence. But not charged for murder. So now... And Brad Marchand. I mean, Brad... Watching Brad Marchand. Are the cops going to get charged? I don't think so. So who's going to be... No one else is going to be charged with this guy's death? Yeah. Find the dog. Uh...

Brad Marchand back? Find the dog. Find the dog. Find the dog. Find the dog. Yeah. The dog leads you to everything. Yeah. That just makes no sense. They just gave away the dog. Yeah. No. Zero sense. And they can't find it. Wait, they've looked for the dog? Yes. Oh, I didn't know they looked for the dog. Yes. So they killed the dog. Yes. Okay. That's fucked up. I know. Just Brad Marchand is just putting on a clinic, celebrating the cup.

He celebrates well. Celebrates so well. Trolling. He's not a big social media guy. Then he wins a cup and he's just trolling, Instagram stories, partying. Yeah, he was doing the around. Posting random people at the bar. And doing the around. He went around the table and just said thanks. He would just post a picture of a player and be like, thanks Sabres. Here's Seth Jones. Thanks Blackhawks. Just going around. Yeah. And I do not think he posts very often, if at all.

No, yeah. No, I followed him on Instagram. I didn't even realize who I did. And then all of a sudden, he's just been the most active guy. Oh, man. Yeah. Crowd surfing with the Stanley Cup at 11.

If you've been to 11, it is quite something. That might be the number one place to celebrate a championship. I don't even understand how 11 exists. It's a club that's also a strip club, but not a strip club. But if you're sitting in 11 for more than five minutes, like a super hot stripper will come up and be like, hey, you want to lap dance? But also, it's still not a strip club. Is that a good way to explain it? To see everywhere.

But it is a strip club, but it's not. Yeah, I know, I know, I know. When you think of strip club, you think of like, all right, you go there and all that's happening is strippers. Eleven is a club. Yeah. But it just happens that strippers do come up to you every five minutes being like, do you want a lap dance? It's because it's Miami. Yeah. It's like kind of classy because it's Miami. And it also doesn't really like...

I think I went to 11 once at like, I think I was calling to try to get a table. And I was like, we're going to roll in at like 1 a.m. And the guy like laughed at me. He's like, oh, okay. Like, we're barely open at 1. Like, we're just starting. It's like Europe. Then you leave at like 5 a.m. and it's around the block line. Hank and I went to 11 together one time. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Yeah, open 24 hours a day. It's fucking, it's quite something. I would say probably number one place to celebrate Stanley Cup.

Yeah, I mean, PFT got to celebrate in Vegas. I feel like that's probably two, but 11 is definitely up there. Yeah. Hakkasan was cool. No strippers. That's the one thing I'll say. Again, they might not even be strippers at 11. They might just like you so much that they want to give you a lap dance. It could have been over the top if there were boobs. It basically is. Yeah, it's basically a strip club, but you don't feel like it's a strip club. So then you think like, oh, man, these really hot chicks like me. Mm hmm.

The one time I went to 11, I got so drunk that I left with my girlfriend and I told her that I can't leave with her because I have a girlfriend. That's awesome. That's such a good guy move. Oh, man. I'm not supposed to be doing this right now.

Okay. Good who's back. Thank you. Great who's back. Thank you. My who's back of the week is the USA. Yeah. Because we vanquished our foes, Saudi Arabia, Trinidad and Tobago, and Haiti, our big rivals in soccer. Nice. So all three, these were teams that don't like each other very much. No love lost. Beat Saudi Arabia on Thursday 1-0, and then beat Haiti 2-1. So now we advance to the Gold Cup finals.

I don't know. Whatever the fuck the next round is. Maybe against Mexico. Okay. So big stuff for U.S. soccer. That's huge. I really don't give a shit. But I do care when the U.S. does play Mexico. Then I will care. Yeah. Because that's the one time I tap into U.S. soccer and really give a fuck about it. I just want to see the team playing good because it's the last tournament that we have before the whole World Cup tune-ups and the World Cup next year. Got it. So yeah. Suck it, Haiti. Love it. Suck it, Saudi Arabia. Never had a chance. Never had a chance. Listen. Listen.

Beating a heated rival like Saudi Arabia 1-0 in a tournament that means everything, we're on the right foot. Yeah. Poke's got the boys rolling. Absolutely. Poke in. Poke in. Yeah, I think we're poke in right now. But if he loses to Costa Rica or Mexico. Is it Poch? I don't know. I think it's Poch. Pocatino. Poch? Pocatino. It doesn't rhyme with Coach Poch. I don't know. Listen, I'm not...

I'll watch the World Cup. I'm not tuned into the CONCACAF Gold Cup unless we lose, and then I'll be like, ha-ha. I also like that we played against Saudi Arabia in the CONCACAF Gold Cup. Yeah. Makes a lot of sense. Our neighbors. Yeah. Where's CONCACAF? CONCACAF, it's the biggest tournament in the world. Federative, I don't know what it stands for. It's the most prestigious soccer organization in FIFA with teams such as Haiti,

Saudi Arabia and Trinidad and Tobago. We beat two teams 5-0 when we beat Trinidad and Tobago. Confederation of North Central America and Caribbean Association football. Like Saudi Arabia. Don't worry about it. Saudi Arabia was just like, hey, can we get in? Yeah, no problem. All right. My who's back of the week is World War III. We're doing it again, boys.

I think this is the fifth World War III that's happened in the last four years. Getting the gang back together, yeah. The strategy of just not saying anything online has really worked out for all the previous World War IIIs because when everyone freaks out and says, oh, World War III is happening and then in two weeks there's not a World War III and you look like an idiot. Let's not jinx anything here, okay?

I'm not. This is COVID all over again. No, it's not. Yes, it is. This ain't going to be World War III, buddy. We've all thought the same thing, which is World War III has been, it started like six different times. I just don't want to say that it's not starting now. World War IIIs have been overrated. There's been like, we're on World War IX now.

We're on World War X. What did you say if they canceled the NCAA tournament? I'd inject myself in COVID. I did end up getting COVID like five different times. So that was a mistake. That was a big mistake. It's not World War III yet. It's just... I'm so sick of everyone saying World War III just started. It's just running back to Middle East war that we do every 11 years. Yeah, dude. World War III. Oh, it's going to be World War III. What are we going to do? What should we do on Monday? Should we go to work? Yeah. Yeah.

I got to say, I've been doing a lot of reading about the operation with the B-2 bombers. Dude, those guys flying there and back without stopping is badass. Yeah. We had the refueling planes up in the air. And the guy tweeting about it before in Missouri being like, yo, I just saw some B-2 bombers outside my house. Yeah. He broke World War III before anyone else. Shout out to B-2 bomber because we've had that for forever and it's still untouchable.

They didn't see it on radar. And then they didn't even see the other... By the way, this is... What we did was quite literally the plot of Top Gun 2. Yeah. Which goes to show you that we didn't need F-18s in Top Gun 2. Like, I love that movie. But if most people are watching that, you're like, why the fuck are they using...

fourth generation fighters instead of a fifth generation F-35 versus B-2 bombers. Isn't that what they had in the very beginning? What do you mean? Like the first scene in the movie? No, that was an experimental plane that hasn't been cleared yet. Got it. Yeah. Where he went like Mach 11 and then ejected and walked into a bar. He's like, can I get some milk? Yeah. Those planes are fucking sick.

They are. All right. But yeah, I just always know World War III is happening when I tweet something about sports. And in my replies, people would be like, dude, how could you do this? World War III is about to happen. Yeah. And then also, my who's back is Jonathan Tate. He's back. He signed with the Winnipeg Jets, his hometown team. What's been going on with him? So kind of a mystery.

People thought it was long COVID, and then it was kind of like some type of autoimmune, like always being tired. I think I have that. Something he couldn't figure out. But I'm happy he's able to now play again, hopefully end his career the right way, because it really sucked that he was...

You know, it didn't. It just sucked the way it ended in Chicago after so many good years. So, yeah, he's back and I'm rooting for him. Same. It'd be awesome. He's the fucking man. Yeah, he is the man. You played golf with him. I didn't play golf with him. He was in the group behind us. You played golf at the same time. Hole in one. And then he came out with us after. Oh, okay.

That's playing golf with him. Fucking man, yeah. Yeah, no, he is the man. He's the absolute man. So I'm hoping he does well and stays healthy. Okay, Zach, you got a Who's Back? I do a Who's Back of the Week for you. Okay. Real quick, my Who's Back of the Week would have to be out there in Houston, Texas over the weekend. I don't know if you guys are familiar with Morgan Wallen, the country singer. I'm familiar with him. So Morgan Wallen started. He's got this I'm the Problem tour going on right now. He does these tunnel walks before every show, different celebrities, different guests,

traveled him into the stadium, onto the stage. In Houston, he went with Roger Clemens, Drake, and I just feel like that was a fantastic star-studded way to start your weekend. Tour sold out. It's at the arena where the Texans play. I think he's so back. He's had some controversies, throwing a chair over the ledge, taking him back to God's country with SNL. And I just was curious. What other ones? Oh.

I just got those ones. No other...

I think those are... Oh, we went out to a bar during COVID. Yeah, that one. There's a C word one. Yeah, the COVID one was bad. There was a C word? I didn't know if we could say that one. Yeah, yeah. You can say the C word. Yeah. Okay. Anything else? Do you guys have like a two-man you'd like to enter a stadium with? Do you have like a 1A, 1B you'd like to travel into a stage with? Yeah. Hank PFT. Oh, shit!

Damn it. So we had Roger Clemens and Drake with him. He did. I think Stone Cold and Dog the Bounty Hunter. I'd go Tom Brady and Lil Wayne. I think I'd go Paul Bissonnette and Bonnie Blue. That'd be nice. Max, you got a pair? Shane Victorino. Yeah.

He doesn't even like Shane Victorino that much. I saw Shane Victorino in the airport last week. That's awesome. Oh, that's so sick. I didn't say hi to him. I was too scared. Oh, that's a good story, though. Maybe Jason Kelsey and Brian Dawkins. Brian Dawkins for sure. Oh, that'd be sick. Yeah, hype the people up. That'd be real sick. All right, good. Who's back? Morgan Mullins back. Did you guys see, by the way? Is that Drake's first public appearance since The Beef?

No. I feel like I haven't seen him anywhere. No, he's been around. He's been kind of active. I mean, he does his weird gambling stuff. I feel like I've seen those clips. Yeah, he does some streams. Yeah, he's been streaming. He does gambling streams? Yeah. What a loser. No, but I don't even know what... It's like an offshore. Yeah, it's like an offshore. But he's around. Offshore like Little St. James Island? Not that offshore. Okay.

Closer inland. Got it. Also, is Shohei back or no? He's pitching one inning? He's opening. I don't like this. He's opening. And James Wood took him yard vertically today. Vertically? Yeah, he had the highest pop fly I've ever seen in my entire life. That's sick.

It was so high, Mookie Betts lost it. It went into the sun. PFT was telling us about this, and he was like, you've got to find this. You've got to see this pop fly. It's the highest infield pop fly I've ever seen in my life. Shockingly, there was no replay of this highlight anywhere on the internet. You remember Jaden Daniels' handoff in week two? Yes, this is exactly that. This is James Wood's version of the handoff. But yeah, no, he looked pretty good. He was throwing some good pitches out there. I want to see him pitch more than one inning. Yeah, I would too.

Cal Raleigh AL MVP. Show he's probably going to win the NL MVP, right? Cal Raleigh. Let's see. What is the we're going to get to? I like Schwarber.

Well, I want Schwarber to win because I've been on it, but I don't. And that's also NL. Also, how about Shohei breaking up a fight that he was in? That his teammates got into to defend him? Yeah. So that was a pretty cool game. I like having the Padres and the Dodgers hate each other because I'm just looking forward to the postseason with those two. But yeah, they plunked Shohei, and then Shohei tried to be the one that broke up the entire fight that got started on his behalf. Yeah. Good guy. Plus 550 still. So...

For Cal Raleigh. Big dumper. We're going to be talking about it. He's going to hit 67 home runs. He's a catcher. It's crazy. Yeah. I put that bet in the second he left the studio. I love to watch him leave. Yeah. And I was like, that ass is going to be... That's an MVP ass. That's an MVP ass. All right. Uh...

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This year is Cal Raleigh from the Seattle Mariners. Cal. Oh, I mean, big dumper. Is that it? Do people just yell big? I would imagine it's gotten a little out of hand where people are just yelling big dumper at you all the time. Yeah, it's I mean, it's more big.

Big Dumper, Dumper, Dumpy, you know, than it is anything else. So Cal's kind of, you know, a thing of the past. I would imagine, like, too, the nickname Big Dumper, it's one of those things, like, you get it given to you. There's really nothing you can do about it. But I'll say this, like, it's a little bit of a weird nickname, but it's hard in sports to have, like, a unique new nickname. And that one's as unique as it gets.

Yeah, I mean, it's not the one you draw up, the one you think you would ever get. But it's kind of like you said, not a lot of people get actual real nicknames like that. So you take what you can get. Yeah, and then we get the big dumper goes poo-poo whenever you hit a home run, which I fucking love. Yeah, that tweet. Yeah, as soon as that guy, that Mariners fan sent me that tweet, I sent it to you. I was just like, every time he hits a home run, I'm just going to think about this in my head. Big dumper goes poo-poo.

I saw that one. And then there was another one. Somebody said, it's like when he hits two home runs, it's a taking a deuce or double dumper deuce or something. You can upper deck them to get a moonshot. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's probably not the nickname you would have liked. Did you have another nickname before that one got forced upon you?

uh not not one like that i mean you know people always kind of you know they've always said talked about you know how big my butt is and everything yeah it was never really anything like that so um and the funny thing was the guy who uh jared kelnick he's the one who came up with it he had never even called me that or said that to me before i mean he always made fun of me but like

He said that in a tweet or something and then just... It blew up. Kind of took off. When did you... When in your career were you like, oh, I do have a fat ass? Oh, I've known for... It's been a long... Ever since high school. It's just been something that's like... It's like an eyesore. It just completely sticks out. No, it's good though. Yeah. It generates a lot of power. Yeah. Whatever works, right? It's an ass set. It's really good for you. Yeah. When they unveiled the new see-through pants last year, we were like, oh, shit. Oh.

Oh, geez. That was a disaster. So we were talking about this the other day on the show, but the baseballs are apparently different this year. The seams are a little bit higher. The drag they've been talking about? Yeah, there's a lot of drag on the ball. Did you notice that as a catcher? I mean, it's such a small difference if there is one. So obviously, as a hitter, you want a little less. You'd rather see balls going a little further. Yeah.

I haven't noticed anything quite yet, but... I mean, you have 27 home runs, right? Whatever they're doing with them right now is fine. Yeah, it's working for you. Is it? I mean, it is crazy. 27 home runs leads Major League Baseball. We're taping this on Thursday, on June 19th, so we don't know what's going to happen on the weekend because we're going to run this next week, but...

Like catchers don't hit that many home runs. You're just an anomaly where is it most of the time catchers are just because of the toll of catching, they just don't have the power? Or like how are you able to do it? Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of factors, right? I mean, obviously catching, your first priorities, taking care of the pitcher, defense. It's always usually glove first and then the bat second. You don't get to play as often because a lot of guys, you need that.

that extra day off or, you know, um, maybe your best not getting the lineup as often. So it's just a very taxing position too, on the body and the mind. So, uh, getting in every day is, is, is tough. And a lot of guys, you know, like I said, it's, it's a glove first position, kind of anything up the middle, you know, those guys usually have to focus on more on defense. So, um,

It can be tough sometimes. How much extra prep do you have to put in as a catcher that you look at, you see your teammates like a first baseman, right fielder, they show up, they know what their job is. They do some advanced scouting, know where they need to play in position, but their job is to show up, do pretty much the same thing that they normally do, step up to plate and mash.

And then you, you have to put in, I would imagine, a lot more time than them where you're going over, you know, any sort of scouting for all the batters, all that stuff. Like how much more time do you spend as a catcher than an average player? Yeah, I mean, you know, at least half my time is, you know, put in –

to, you know, worrying about, you know, game calling, worry about the pitchers, things like that, meetings. So, uh, a lot of things that, that don't, you know, directly involve me. So that's just kind of how it is. And, um, you know, you've learned, uh, you'd learn to kind of deal with it and kind of set your routine that way. So, um, yeah, the, usually the first day of series, they're, they're a lot longer just because we got, you know, meetings, we got,

You know, scouting reports, stuff like that we got to go over. So it can be a little time-consuming at times. Yeah. Can I bring up a sore subject? Yeah. All right. So the playoff loss to the Houston Astros a few years ago, the 18-inning game. How bad did that suck as a catcher? In a marathon? Yeah. I know. I think that was one of the first years they did the guy in second rule. Yeah. With guys starting second in extra innings. But in the playoffs, they don't do that. So...

And that was pre-pitch clock too. So it was – that was such a long game. It was two games in one. It was a marathon. It started at like one and then it went all the way to eight or something. It was like six and some change. So it was a really long game. But with the adrenaline, how high it was, you really at the time weren't –

It didn't have any, you know, afterwards I felt it, but with all the adrenaline being a playoff game and everything, didn't really feel it at the time. So yeah, I would imagine the next to the morning after you wake up, just legs killing. It was, it was a long day. Do you just always feel like you just did your first squat, like, you know, exercise for like the first time in a month? Because like, I would like, are your legs just always sore?

I mean, it's just one of those things. It's like, you know, when you build up all that tolerance, it's just, you know, after a while it just becomes normal. Yeah. You definitely notice though, like, uh, after some day games, they can be a little, a little more tired just because you're not getting as much rest. And sometimes you got the heat and the sun and things like that. Uh, playing in certain places, you can feel a little more just because, you know, emotionally, you know, it'll take a, take a toll on you a little bit mentally as well. Like those games, I always say like games in Houston, uh,

Boston, New York, playing in the places like that where you feel like the pressure's constantly on and the fans are on top of you and it's hot. Those take a little more out of you, more so than some other places. How does it work with pitchers? Is it just like pitcher to pitcher? There's some pitchers that you know that they're going to want to pitch their way and you're not really going to call the game much. And then there's some that like, hey, he's giving me the keys here. Like I'm calling it for him.

Yeah, I mean, everybody's different. You know, there's some guys that they're really involved in, you know, what they want to call and how they want to attack hitters and their plan. And there's some guys that are just like, I don't care. I'm telling whatever you put down, like,

you got it, take it. And, you know, it is funny how, how different guys are. So, you know, like I said, a lot of the guys do, you know, put a lot of trust in me, which, you know, I, so I try to take, take a lot of pride in calling a game and doing the scouting. So, we also have a lot of young guys too. So kind of help them along and,

you know, learn the ropes. And some guys have done a really good job and kind of take ownership in that. What about an Ephus? Are you going to call an Ephus? George Kirby threw a knuckleball. Okay. A couple years ago. Was it just impossible to catch? It was disgusting. Well, it was Tim Wakefield that just passed away that morning or the night before. And it was the last game of the season, and we had just gotten –

you know eliminated from contention uh the day before so he's like i'm gonna throw a knuckleball try to find a way to mix it in today and he threw it uh cory seger and it was i mean if you find the video it's disgusting it's unlike pitching ninja all that stuff like um it was why why didn't he throw it more i don't know i mean he was on the shelf earlier this year i mean

It might be a real pitch. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, he got a whiff out of it. He swung and missed. That's huge. I almost missed it myself. Yeah. It's just I never. Is it like way harder to catch for a knuckleballer? I don't even know if I ever. That's the only real one I think I've ever caught in a game. So you're one for one. You're perfect.

One for one. We had a guy in the Meyer Leagues. He maybe threw a couple. He was a big dude, like 6'8", three bills. That's a funny knuckleball guy. Let's get that guy in Major League Baseball. JT Salter was his name. Okay. Let's get him called up. I remember the Red Sox when they had Wakefield pitching. They used to have Doug Mirabilli.

as his specific catcher. And one time, didn't they sign him? He was maybe retired or something, but they signed him. And then he had a police escort from Logan Airport to the game to get him there for first pitch in time. Maybe you can tell me what's different about catching a knuckleball. I mean, you just don't know what the ball is going to do, right? I mean, it's kind of the same way with a forkball. There's no consistent...

There's no rhyme or reason of what the ball is going to do. So you just have no idea. So, you know, at least on, you know, curve balls, sliders, you know what the ball is generally going to do in that direction. But with that, the pitcher doesn't even really know what it's going to do. It could take off right, left, up, down. Like, you're really just playing goalie. You know, you're not really even like – like Logan Gilbert, one of our pitchers, he throws a splitter. It's more a fork ball type, but he calls it a splitter. And –

You just don't know. I can't. I'm more, just like I said, trying to keep it in front than I am trying to catch it. Yeah. Have you ever forgotten what pitch a pitcher's about to throw as he's delivering it? Oh, good question. No. Sometimes in warm-ups, I'm not paying attention, and they'll give their little sign with their glove, a little action. Yeah. And sometimes I get a little nervous, and I'll kind of bail out of the way. But it's been pretty rare. That would happen to me all the time. I think this is a slider.

It's a little easier now with the Pitchcom because they're yelling in your ear so you can at least hear it. So I got a couple dumb questions. One of them is about Pitchcom. Do you still paint your nails? No, I don't do that anymore. Do you miss that? I mean...

I don't miss the painting of them because it would make a mess everywhere. But they did start making some, like, sticky stickers. Okay. So that was a little easier on the nails rather than having to do whiteout on your nails. Do you miss, though, like, calling the game with the fingers and stuff? Kind of badass. Yeah, I mean... When you throw the one down for a fastball and it's just like, here it comes. It was a lot simpler. I don't miss the...

Because you obviously have to change up signs with runner second because guys are stealing signs. It's part of the game. I don't miss doing that because it got really complicated. And guys now with all the cameras in the league, guys, I mean, guys would – all their scouts would have everybody sign. So they would know, all right, this guy comes in. He does second sign, shake the first. Or this guy does, you know, last sign, first sign. So guys would already know. So you'd be constantly having to change them and it would be taking too long between the games. Yeah.

So I don't miss that part of the pitch calm, but when nobody on base, you don't really need the pitch calm. Nobody's out there. So it's honestly quicker to do it with the fingers. Yeah. I think the pitch calm. All right. Another dumb question. Are there any umps to get like a little too close where you're like, oh, I got this guy tonight. He's going to be like literally riding my back.

I mean, yeah, they want to get as close as they can. It's kind of like catchers. They want to get close so they can try to steal strikes. Same thing for umpires. They want to try to get as close as they can to see every pitch. And some guys, you know, a lot of the older guys, you know, they'll give you that kind of, like, pushback. So, like, you know, especially if a ball they, like –

It's coming their way. I'm set up a little bit this way and they're kind of exposed. They'll give me that like push in the back. You got to remind me, like, hey, you're pushing me. You're not trying to do it on purpose. They get flinchy back there. Right. And then last question about umps. You ever fart on an ump? I mean, yeah. Yeah.

I've logged too many innings to not have logged. Has an ump ever noticed? To let one slip. Be like, dude, what was that? Nobody's ever said anything. Okay. But I know. You know when they're thinking it. Yeah. You know, it's like when you walk in a room. Yeah. Yeah. It's the same thing. I mean, I try not to make it a habit. Yeah. But you're in that position all the time. You're compressing your body a lot. Sometimes some just.

Squeaks out. Yeah. I mean, you're squatted down for that long. Yeah. Bad pregame meal. Yeah. And you were telling me that you have a soft serve machine in the clubhouse in Seattle, and the nutritionist tried to take it away a couple years ago, and you guys had like a mutiny. Yes. I think this was in 21. This was my rookie year. So obviously, like, I come up and think it's the coolest thing ever. Soft serve machine. Just the whole room in general has got all the snacks you can think of.

And yeah, it was right after. It was post-All-Star break. They tried to sneak it out during the break. That way people wouldn't know. And like I said, you would have thought the world was ending. Wait, so everyone showed up and it just wasn't there? It wasn't there and people were pissed. Oh, man. And they made it a point. And it didn't even take... I think it took three days to get it back. I love that. And that's the one thing that will never be taken out.

Yeah, I think that's what happened with the Braves back when you remember when the Mets had that late late season collapse and the Braves kind of gradually overtook him in September. Yeah, I think they put the ice cream machine back in before that whole thing started. It's just good vibes having an ice cream machine around. Everyone's happier at work. Nobody, you know, nobody wants a fruit bar around. They want to. Yeah, right. With the ice cream machine. They don't want. Yeah. I mean, keep people happy, you know? Yeah. I have a personal request on behalf of this podcast. Are you going to be in the home run derby?

If they ask me, I think they'd be pretty fun. Okay. I think you should be in the home run derby. We got a guy you got to take down. Who is it? Christian Yelich. So you got to be in it? He's flirting with it. We cannot let him go poo-poo. Yeah. That's no go for us. No? If he wins the home run derby, we have to eat each other's ass.

That was the rule? Yeah. It's like a seven-year bet now. Yeah. It was a long time ago. Has he been? No, he's never been in it. There was the one year where he was geared up to do it and he hurt his back.

So if you, listen, we're simple. We can do the easy way. You could just beat him in the home run derby, or we do the hard way, and you could just beat him with a baseball bat before the home run derby. Whichever one you want to do. I think it'd be more fun to at least make you guys a little nervous. Okay. I'll beat him in the derby. Yeah. I mean, you will. You're a much better home run header than Christian Yelich is. So, yeah. Don't give him bolts and boards.

I'm just saying. I'm trying to gas my man up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you are. He's a good player, though. Yeah, he's okay. He's all right. He's fine. He's kind of skinny, though. He's fine. Are you okay with us saying that you should be the MVP? Because he's obviously going up against Judge, but I think the catching part of it is insane. Like, you're catching so much. I mean, I know you DH a little, but...

It's nuts. Your glove and your what are you top? Are you top two in throwing guys out? Maybe let me look that up. I think you are. I think you're pretty elite at that. You like to show Hey, Otani at baseball. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No leads catchers in stealing eights. Yes. You only give up eight stolen bases.

There might be more than that. Really? It feels like more. Okay. My pitchers would probably argue with me. When you give up a stolen base, is that demoralizing? You're like, fuck. No, no. I mean, a lot of that's, you know. That's the pitcher's fault. Yeah, they're not quick to the plate. And that seems to be a tale as old as time, you know, pitchers.

not you know remembering that somebody else is on the base and just let them take off yeah you can't you can't really do much about it back there so yeah we try we try to limit them but you know some guys take their time okay how many stolen bases do you have this season

I got eight. That's pretty good. I know. I think as long as you can steal more bases than guys steal on you, that's a plus season, right? I just took our manager had the record for a catcher in the season for the Mariners. Yeah. And I just broke it the other day. Oh, hell yes. So we're on pace. I told him I was going to take the bag and hold up like Ricky. Yeah, Ricky Anderson. Wait, do you have the green light?

Uh, sometimes. So that's not, you do not have the green light. It's like, it's probably yellow light. It's like, yeah. How many times you've been caught? Two. Okay. Eight for 10 right now. And that's gotta be that. That's a bummer when you come back to the dugout. Yeah. Cause it's like, you know, yeah, you shouldn't have been stealing there. Yeah. Slow guy. If it's like, you know, somebody fast, like Julio or something, it's like, ah, you know,

Yeah. It happens. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, it's fine. Me, it's like I might need to shut it down for a while. Yeah. I'd like to see you run more. Do you pay attention to the on-pace stats? I don't think so. If you hit, obviously you're at 27 right now. Do you ever look that up online and be like, what am I on pace for this season? Oh, I would be interested in my stats.

my stolen bases for sure let's see that'd probably be i would imagine uh right right around like 15 right yeah 16 those are good numbers that's really good we're halfway through yeah we're close to halfway through i don't know if we're all the way halfway through yeah do you look at your home run stats and you're like you know after if you homer on opening day you're like man i'm on pace for 162 162 home runs yeah we're a little less than halfway so you are on pace for 50 home runs

That'd be pretty sick. What's better, that or the stolen bases? I'd say the home run. How sweet is it to hit a home run? It's got to be the best feeling ever. It feels good. Yeah. I mean, rounding the bases, you know.

There's probably nothing better in sports. Yeah. I mean, for like an actual like, you know, individual thing, you know, football, you know, you throw a touchdown, you know, there's two people on the end of the play. Great catch. I guess that's fun. But, you know, not a lot of people get to circle bases like that, especially in a big moment to walk off homers, you know, things like that. Is that what's your favorite home run you ever hit?

I mean, the one in 22 when I walked it off. Against the A's? Yeah, sent us to the postseason. Yeah. That one was pretty. That one's badass. Yeah, I mean, that one was. That's the one you dream about. Yeah. Like in the backyard, you're playing with the wiffle ball bat. Yeah. That's the one. Yeah. By the way, the record for catcher home runs is Javi Lopez. And you're ahead of pace on that. So let's do it. Let's get it. He had 42 in 2003. See what we can do. Or actually, no, wait. What?

Oh, no, Salvador Perez had 48 in 2021, but he didn't play. I don't think he played as many. I don't think he caught as many games as you're going to end up catching. Yeah, he DH'd a lot, though. Yeah. He's been DH'd a little bit. Whatever the stats go out, we're going to make sure that you have number one. We'll fine-tune it. We can really kind of massage the stats for you.

finagle a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got you. We do a fantasy league every year. It's called Dingers Only. So only home runs count in our fantasy league. I think that you might go in the top ten. I had you two years ago. Kind of before you were like a big name and it saved my season. By position? It's the simplest fantasy league you could ever create. It's just everyone has nine players and it's just the only stat is home runs. It's pretty easy. Yeah, and we also started halfway through the season, which that doesn't really make sense.

So you haven't even started yet? No, no, we haven't drafted yet. So actually, are you okay with whoever drafts you? I'll call you and we'll do it like an NFL draft being like, hey, you ready to join my Dingers Only team? Yeah, we'll get a jersey or something. Yeah, you'll be like, I'm ready to go, coach. I'm ready to hit some home runs. Value-wise, you might be number one. Yeah. Right? Because if you're in that many home runs as a catcher, that's huge. Positional value, you might be number one in Dingers Only. Yeah, catcher. Yeah. It's not...

It's not a home run position, so... Yeah. I have a question about the art of catching and framing pitches. Okay. Is there, like, a limit to how far out of the strike zone a pitch will be that you'll try to frame? Or will you try to frame everything? There's a limit, right? I mean, something ridiculous, you know, you can't. But, I mean, I don't know. You're trying to steal strikes, so, like, you know, borderline pitches that look somewhat good to your eye, like, yeah, you're going to frame it. And then...

I mean, there are some, you know, where it's just like, all right, you know, no need for that. We can't make this one work. You got to respect the game a little bit. Is there a frame job that you're most proud of? I don't know. One off the top of my head? I don't think so. I mean, it's gotten a lot smaller. I mean, I don't know if you guys read that article that came out about the buffer zone with the umpires. You know, they basically...

basically there was a two inch buffer zone that shrunk down to like 0.7 oh shit five inches of a buffer zone so umpires this year have been calling a lot more balls just because they're gonna get docked basically because they're getting you know just like we are as players they're getting graded out and see how well they do on their performance and so they've been a lot more tighter this year with with that being introduced so that's kind of been been the thing this year yeah how do we feel about the robot umps

I'm out. I'm out on Robot Ops. We agree. It's a podcast. Don't you want to keep a little bit of the baseball in it? Yeah. You want to see managers and guys getting ejected. It's part of the game. They've taken away with replay. There's not a lot of arguing going on besides at-home play. If you take that away, it's like,

you need a little bit of excitement in the game. You want to see guys throwing rosin bags and the whole thing. Yeah, the slow little trot that the manager does when he goes out, like the short little steps, but he's moving his arms like he's running, and then he's collecting his thoughts, and then he gets to home plate and just explodes on the ump. That's part of the beauty of the game of baseball. And it also, like, our take is simple, that if you took away all refs and umps from all sports, you're basically eliminating, like, 50% of conversations guys can have with each other.

Like, yeah. Like if your team loses, you have to be able to blame a human being, you know? Yeah. You want to, you want to, you know, yeah. Be like all that robot get pissed at that umpire. You want to at least blame somebody. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So, I mean, there's the human element of it. So, I mean, you know, it's not a bunch of robots out there playing, you know, you don't want a bunch of robots umpiring. Yeah. You know, I don't even know where the, where the system's at yet. I mean,

you know, if it's off by a little bit, if it's not, if it's perfect, you know, and like two is like, you're going to get everybody's size, right? Like, is this, I'm going to change Aaron judge. There's a, I'll to they like, it's a lot. Get the robots out. We'll get back to Cal Raleigh in a second. He's brought to you by proper 12.

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No, I mean, I've had to step in between. Do you have a move? Are you like in your head, like kind of like I think like, oh, man, if someone's going to hijack this plane, I'm going to be such a badass. Do you have that going through your head? Like, man, if this guy steps towards my picture, I'm going to be such a badass here. I've always said that I want to try to tackle him from behind. Yeah. Just because, like, obviously he's going to be going, but I don't know if I'll be able to make it in time. Dude, honestly, what you should do, and I don't know why catchers don't do this, like just let them like kind of run and just trip them.

That would be so like, how embarrassing is that? If you get, yeah, if you just throw your foot and like the guy can't get, he can't, you can't get up from a trip and still be as mad because you're now just embarrassed about falling on your face. Yeah. I don't know what his next move would be. Would he continue to go? Do I have your picture ready to trip him back?

Do I just tackle him? Do I sit on him? Yeah, sit on him. I don't know. I've always imagined in my head I would just try to tackle him before he gets there. Think about the trip. What you do is you wait for him to run, and then when the back leg goes out, you just kick that leg to the side, and then it hits their other leg. That's as embarrassing as embarrassing gets. They might even just laugh. They might even realize how silly this whole thing is and be like, yeah, it's pretty funny. I don't know if they'd be laughing. They get double embarrassed. Do you talk to the guys in the batter's box?

Uh, yeah. Some guys, some guys are real chatty in there. Really? Like pitch to pitch or just, just when they say, Oh really? What are they talking about? Depending on the day, you know, some guys, like I said, real chirpy, real, you know, real funny in the box. Like to, you know, either make fun of themselves or, you know, talk about something.

what pitch they think is coming next. And some guys, you know, once they say hey, they don't say anything else again. It's focused, kind of locked in. You know, Nathaniel Lowe for the Nationals, he's one. He loves the chirp, loves the chat. And every single time he comes up, he's like, all right, you know where I like it.

I said, all right, here it comes, right on the middle. Are you allowed to talk when they're about to swing? Oh, yeah. Do you do that? Yeah, I mean, some people will be talking as the guy's coming in his windup and everything, and I'm just like, all right, if you want to chat, we'll chat. Do you have a... I'll get in your head. Is it like game respect game when another catcher steps up? You guys share professional courtesy? Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty much across the league now. Everybody, it's just known you...

you say hey to both the ump and the catcher now. Yeah. So I think some younger guys don't just because they don't know when they come up. Rookies, they're just like quiet and they keep their head down and they don't want to, which is a good thing. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty much common courtesy now. A lot of guys will like tap to... Yeah, give you a little love tap. I remember Brandon Phillips did that to Yachty and they got in the fight. Yeah. So...

um yeah some guys this just depends on the guys uh so you're growing up your dad was a coach um did he coach you throughout like all your literally because he was a real coach like he coached college yeah he's a college coach so did he coach you any of your teams or no no he didn't uh he was always coaching college yeah um he was not my coach uh there's like there's one or two years in high school when he finished up he

He did some stuff, but yeah. No, I was always with him at the field. Yeah. That's the perfect coach's son because he's not coaching your actual team, so people can't be like, this guy's just getting preferential treatment, but he also is coaching you all the other times. Not the shortstop hitting third. Yeah, right. Exactly. Yeah. Like, is this guy good or is he just the coach's son? So you had it made. There's a lot of those. Yeah. Especially nowadays, there's like five coaches.

There's like five coaches in the team and all their kids are hitting first five in the order. It's like, come on now. All playing infield. So you won the Platinum Glove Award. That's pretty cool. And that's when you got your gold. Did you get the gold glove first or the platinum glove? Gold and then platinum. Did you think that there was a chance you could get platinum last year? I mean, no. I mean, I was just happy to win the gold, right? And then, you know, they announced that at the award ceremony.

uh at the banquet so i didn't think i was gonna win that and wasn't in my mind and it uh was kind of a cool little thing i didn't didn't know i could do yeah do you keep them in the same place in your house uh they are in my locker right now oh yeah they were presented to me this year so they presented to me at like one of the first games a year so right now they're in the top of my locker i got a

Got to find out where we're going. That's kind of a flex. I kind of like that. Yeah. So when the reporters come in, they see it? Well, it is on top. It's not. Oh, you got to get it visible. Just let them know this is who you're talking to. I think it's a little bit cooler that you have them where nobody can see them. It's like, yeah. They're just in a box up there. Yeah. Wait, so they're not even displayed. They're not even displayed. They're in a box. They're sitting in a box right now.

Yeah, I would put the platinum in my foyer to my house. Like the first thing that somebody sees when they walk in. And like the plastic case. Yeah, that's the platinum glove. I'm the best in the world. Yeah. Where's the gold? Probably in the bathroom. Yeah. Like if you got the platinum, you don't want anybody to see the gold because it's a major downgrade. It's like disappointing. You can't live up to it anymore. Yeah. When you played at Florida State, you guys went to Omaha. Did Jameis Winston ever give you guys a pop-up speech?

No, I wish. Oh, man. Yeah. How awesome. Omaha is like every year the College World Series is like it kind of sneaks up on me and then I get I tune into the games like this is the best. And like, was it was it just an awesome experience being in Omaha? Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah. Yes. I mean,

For college baseball, the kids, that's all they want to do is to go to Omaha. So it's the thing. And getting to go is kind of like a bucket list thing. It's like, check that box. Yeah.

that's one of the cooler things. Yeah. I'd say, you know, and then obviously getting to the big league is pretty cool too. But, you know, that's kind of like the peak for when you're in college. It's like the one thing you want to do. Was it hard going from metal to wood? Like was there an adjustment? Not really. Really? No. I mean, I actually kind of liked it better because when you get to pro ball, you get to pick –

Yeah, there were so many different things you could do to your bat. You could modify it. You could pick top heavy versus like college. It's basically like here's the metal bat that you get. There's no changing it. You get what you get. So that was kind of cool. Yeah. What's your bat like now?

I'm actually a torpedo guy. Oh, you are? Oh, you are. I'm a torpedo guy. So what's the difference? So you've been cheating. Yeah, what's the difference? The first time you swung it, could you immediately tell, like, yeah, this is going to be my baby? No, it was, I mean...

really for anybody any baseball guy it's they pick it up one time they use it and it works and they're like oh this is what i'm going to use so rolling sent me a couple torpedoes and i picked it up one game against the rangers like third at bat i think i struck out or something the first two at bats picked it up hit a home run never went back so the um

It just looks funky. You know, you see the end, how it tapers off. But no, I mean, it feels kind of normal. You don't really feel the difference, but just looking at it, you're like, that's kind of weird. It's weird, yeah. Is there a certain player as a catcher where their, like, ball on bat just sounds totally different than everyone else?

Yeah, there's some guys with the bat speed. I mean, Otani. It just sounds like just a completely different sport. Yeah, it's like when he swings, it sounds like an airplane is taking off. Jesus. Yeah, with the bat speed. There's a few guys. Jorge Soler hit that big home run a couple years ago with the Braves in the World Series.

Yeah, he swings the bat extremely hard. You're actually a little nervous back there with how hard he's swinging. Yeah. Because it's just like, I mean, if he connects, there's no getting the ball back. Yeah. It's scary. I'd say Bryce Harper had that as well, that kind of different sound, different swing.

Judge is just so big and so strong that he can miss hit it and still... Yeah, it's crazy. He still goes out. Yeah. He's just a different animal. It actually is like... It's actually cheating how tall he is. He should not be eligible for MVP. He's a beast. Yeah. But, I mean, you're the MVP. He's... I mean...

He's different. And just so we're clear, if Aaron Judge ever comes on this show, we will tell him he's the MVP and Cal Raleigh is actually cheating because he's DH-ing. No, I'm going to say that Aaron Judge, by being on the Yankees, they use Torpedo Bats, so he's technically a cheater. He gets better pitches to hit. We're Cal Raleigh guys. Yeah.

that was nice when the torpedo bat story broke because everybody was like the yankees are all cheating yeah just like oh i hope nobody mentions me and then everyone forgot about it yeah yeah nobody nobody cares about seattle they're you know it's a good sports town though right i love it yeah awesome the only thing i would say is like it would be nice if you played in a uh more of a hitter's ballpark yeah yeah not not a great hitter's ballpark yeah that and the east coast you know you

You just don't get as much love out in Seattle. So it's nice when people notice, you know, the West Coast team. And the stadium is awesome. Yeah. Oh, it's great. I mean, the fans are awesome. It's a great sports city, like we were talking about. You know, all the teams, they show up really well. Like I said, pretty much, you know,

When they're there, it's packed house. So it's fun to play in. This might be a dumb question, but one thing that I love about Seattle and the ballpark, especially great food in the ballpark out there. As a player, do you ever get to eat the ballpark food? No, not really. I mean, I guess you can have people bring you stuff, like clubbies and stuff, if you really want to try something. Yeah. Like they had a calzone a couple years ago.

Yeah, Cali. So they brought me a few. I tried them. Oh, hell yeah. They got a bunch of different food, though. I mean, they got crickets out there, too. Yeah, they do. They got the crickets, and they're always introducing – they got – was it the little –

Little dumpers, little dumplings. I got little dumplings this year or something. They should make a big dumper sundae. Just a giant chocolate sundae. I could get behind that. Yeah. The big dumper is such a great nickname. It is. It's fucking awesome. It is. I read that your parents don't exactly love it. I mean, you know. Yeah. I don't think your mom would...

Would like. Blame her. Big dumper. It's your jeans. You gave me the big dumper. I know. You know, so I don't think, like I said, I don't think that's what, that's what comes to mind when mom's thinking of. Our little boy Cal, he's the big dumper. My little baby. Big dumper. He poo-pooed all over that ball. He poo-pooed twice tonight. He's 28 years old called the big dumper.

Do you pay a lot of attention to, like, you were talking about bat speed earlier. As a catcher, do you pay a lot of attention to, like, all the metrics from all the players? Or are you just like, I can't analyze things that much? No. Yeah, you don't want to get too deep in the weeds, you know? It's like, you know, you can really get in depth now with all the analytics and all the, you know, stats and everything that's out there, but...

At the end of the day, you're still playing baseball, and you've got to keep it simple like that sometimes. What about as a hitter? Do you pay attention to how far in front of the ball you're hitting, angle, bat speed, all that stuff?

Not really. Not unless something is really glaring and like, you know, something has changed just because it's such a long season, you know, your body can change your stance, you know, like, oh, hey, like this is, you know, you were this far open earlier in the year and now you've closed yourself off or vice versa, like things like that. Like, and usually that'll be a gradual thing over time. And

So, like, some people will... It's more of, like, a coach's job to bring that to you. Be like, hey, like, this is where you're at. Yeah. You've fallen off a little bit. Let's get you back to this. To what you were doing, so... How fast can you throw? Because catchers don't get enough credit for being able to throw really fucking fast. I was... I don't think...

I don't think my arms ever been my, my calling card. I mean, you're throwing guys out. Is that your, is that your, that's just your pop? Yeah. I'd say my transfers are decently quick. I got pretty good footwork, so it kind of makes up for my arm. Um,

I was always... I was a submarine guy. I was like a... Oh, really? Yeah, in high school. I was throwing sidearm. How fast were you throwing? Oh, like 70 poo. Yeah, I was just throwing strikes in there. So, yeah, I was like just doing that and then catching came calling. Yeah. Have you ever called a really embarrassing pitch out and the guy's not stealing at all? Yeah, but...

I wouldn't say it's too embarrassing. It's not one of those things. There's definitely a lot more embarrassing things that can happen. What's the most embarrassing thing that can happen? One time I threw, well, I guess there was one time the guy didn't still steal and I still threw it a second. I thought he took off. It was like a fake steal and I was kind of blocked by the lefty.

And I threw it, and nobody was there. So I just went into the outfield. He didn't advance, luckily. And then another time in college, I threw down, kind of slipped a little bit, my front foot, and then hit the pitcher right in the ass. Oh. Yeah. And he was squatted down, too, so it wasn't even close. I just like I didn't hit him in the head. You saw the other day. Yeah, it was crazy. Hit him in the head, but, yeah, hit this guy right in the butt. So that was –

That was kind of embarrassing. What about if you're throwing a third base, it's a right-handed batter? You ever come close to hitting a guy? Yeah. Sometimes it looks like it gets pretty close. Yeah, I've hit the bat. No, actually, I've hit the helmet of somebody, and the guy scored one time. Oh, shit. Yeah, it ricocheted, and it hit him in the helmet.

And it went all the way to the dugout and the guy scored from second. So that was, that was embarrassing. I was in college though. Yeah. A lot of embarrassing things in college actually. So you guys were good though. You gotta learn. Yeah. Learn somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. Um, all right. I got one last question. This has been awesome. Cal, you are our MVP. We're going to, we're going to keep pumping up your numbers all year. Uh,

The rowback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com, promo code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase, Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Rowback.com, promo code TAKE. I'll finish with another dumb question because I think you might be the first catcher we've had on. We had Johnny Bench on like nine years ago. Did we? I don't know if we've had a catcher since. So there's a lot of dumb catcher questions. Apologize for that. But dumb catcher question.

I know that, like, if you're in the dugout and you're putting on your gear and then you have to take it off, it means that obviously there's been some hits that you didn't expect. But is there a small part of you like, this is bullshit, I got to take it all off again? Yeah. I mean, you...

You kind of learn when to take it off and when to put it on. Do you have someone who puts it on for you? No. No, you should get someone to do the legs at least. Like a NASCAR crew pit? Yeah. But I would imagine it would suck if you put it all on, take it all off, and then end the inning in the on-deck circle.

Yeah. Sometimes you keep on the legs in the on deck circle? No, so that's not a pro ball thing. I learned that real quick. Oh. It's one of those things that nobody tells you before and then you go do it and then they yell at you or they're like, you look stupid out there with your shin guards on. And then it's just one of those things that you do it all through your whole life, right? Right. Catchers, you're on deck and then you take them off.

And then you get the pro ball and you do that. And everybody's like, you look like an idiot. Take those off. No, you got to get ready to hit. So yeah, sometimes I'll look stupid and dug out there. Like I'll put, well, I'll take one off.

Be like, I'm like halfway in, halfway out, just in case. Because you don't want to take it all off or just being lazy. But you can never just relax in the dugout, huh? Yeah, you're constantly doing something. Yeah. Talking to the pitcher, pitching coach, getting ready to hit. Especially now, the pitch clock has made everything so fast. Yeah, do you like it as a catcher? It's nice for the in-game stuff because things are going. And those four or five-hour games...

are not happening anymore. Yeah, they don't exist. Yeah, people are, you know, it was getting really long with all the pitching changes and now with all the, you know, advanced stuff that people have. So, it was getting a little long, but there's not a lot of time in the dugout. It's like, I don't got time to, you know, go grab water, just dilly around. It's like, you got to,

You got to get ready. Right, right. So it's almost too quick sometimes, especially if you're leading off. You got to take it off, get ready, put everything on. You got to have all the ego shields now. Oh, dude, this one just popped in my head too. When the manager comes out to pull a pitcher, do you ever play like good copy and like, ah, we shouldn't, knowing that he's going to get pulled anyway, just trying to have your pitchers back?

Sometimes I shake my head. Yeah, just let him know, like, hey, it's not me that's doing this. Hey, man, I'm there for you. Yeah, right. You would have gotten this guy out. I would have kept you in. I could do backup, backup, though. Yeah, yeah. I could go out there and get into him, too. Yeah, just be like, dude, you suck. Get out of here. No. Sometimes, you know, you got to give him that little affirmation. Hey, man, I wouldn't have done that.

that yeah yeah you start saying that all the time i do like the idea though you having a nascar team not just one guy but like four guys that just roll up behind you put all your shit on in like five seconds it should be the starters that aren't so yeah yeah five stars in rotation so it should be the other four yeah yeah strap me up boys yeah let's go how awesome is dhing though when you have a day where you can just chill and just hit

It's almost too chill sometimes. Really? Yeah, it's like, well, as a catcher, you're in every single play. You're doing the most. Yeah, you're touching the ball every single play. You're always involved. Your mind's always going. And then you get to DH, and you're like, I don't know what to do with myself. Right. And you're talking to guys that you normally wouldn't talk to in the dugout during the game, or you're doing...

You're eating snacks. You don't want to really do it yourself, so you're just sitting there and kind of just twiddling your thumb sometimes. So almost in a reverse way, it could be. Some guys have trouble DHing because they don't know what to do themselves. They get bored. Yeah. I mean, some guys, it's been a thing in the past. Like, I need to play the field.

but being a catcher, you have to have a few deviations. I got one last maybe dumb question. I know that catchers don't always catch the first pitches that get thrown out, but I imagine that you've caught a lot of them. Is there one guy that has the best first pitch? I mean, Ichiro, right? He threw like, I think he hit like 91 a couple years ago. That's awesome. Right down the middle. I mean, his first pitch is elite. I mean, that's a good one. Did he tell you like, hey, I'm going to throw this one? Yeah.

No, I think he kind of plays it close to the chest. Yeah. He likes staying a little quiet. Would you be down for our dumb baseball rule where the first pitch should count? You want to get a batter in there? Yeah. Oh, yeah. So it's like, all right, you want to bring out 50 cent to throw a first pitch? It's going to count. What about you're going to get an L screen out there for somebody, though? No, no. If you throw a first pitch, you can get hit right back to you.

Oh, boy. It sounds like you're not ready for that, but it would be sick. Imagine if in the playoffs they're like, yeah, we're bringing out this guy for a first pitch, like a legend, and he can still throw it. Nolan Ryan. Yeah, right. That'd be kind of cool. Yeah, right. Just suit him up. Right. He threw out a really good one a couple years ago. Yeah. 50 Cent would actually be not the worst option. No. Because he's going to throw a ball. Right. And who cares? You wouldn't want somebody throwing a meatball.

Yeah. Yeah. Think about it. Pretty fun. Randy Johnson. Who the Mets have Grimace. Yeah. Grimace out there. Grimace throw on the first pitch. Oh, I just thought one more question about catching. Is there a baseball field that is actually like a ballpark that is the easiest and then the hardest to catch in based on what's beyond the pitcher? What's out in center field? Yeah. There's some tough ones with shadows. Let's say.

And also the foul. I mean, the A's, obviously, when they were still in Oakland, the foul ball territory was insane. Yeah. Sneaky, though. I think people miss that stadium, though. Really? I loved playing there. I mean, obviously, you had no fans, but you almost felt like you were back in high school or playing child ball again. It was kind of a cool experience. Nobody's there. Dugouts are wide open. I was like, I love this. This is a lot of fun. Is COVID back right now?

I know. Right. But the Sacramento was tough to see in that cause it's new. And, um, Tampa Bay, obviously they're not there. They had the hurricane, but they had a white roof. So like any pop flies that go up, I'm like, well, who, who designed this? Why would this ever be a thing? Yeah. So I never, I never really understood that. But yeah, any place with like shadows, when you get those like four o'clock games, um,

And now all the stadiums, you know, they're really tall and they got shadows that go through. Guys hate 4 o'clock games. Yeah. And, like, with TV, sometimes, you know, TV takes precedent and it kind of runs everything. So you get those. They're going to be tough days to hit and tough days to see as a catcher. Yeah. All right. Well, Cal, thank you. Big dumper. Appreciate you stopping by, man. This was a lot of fun, and we're rooting for you the rest of the year. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it. MVP.

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We paid for him, his dad, his brother, and his brother-in-law, all expense trip to Pebble Beach. And Spyglass. Spyglass played, what, three rounds? Two rounds. Two rounds. Pebble Beach and Spyglass. But a whole weekend in Carmel, told them tip 60% on the tabs. We got it. How was it?

It was even better than going into it. My expectations were through the roof. It really was a magical experience. We stayed at the Inn at Spanish Bay. Beautiful, beautiful hotel, resort, spa, right on the Spanish Bay golf course. Why did you tell us where you stayed when we booked it? Phenomenal restaurant, so I'm telling the viewers. Oh, okay. Spanish Bay, unbelievable golf course. Hit two birdies in a row. I don't think I've ever done that in my life. Whoa. Yep.

Shot a 42 on the front that I was going to break my PR completely imploded on the back. You guys would have enjoyed it. Yeah, not me. Still broke 90, which is, you know, huge, huge. And then Pebble Beach was, you know, obviously no six, seven, 18. But the course, it truly was like the entire time you're just looking around like this is not a real place. I cannot believe that we're playing golf in this setting. You mentioned the spa. Did you go to the spa?

Yeah, there's like a little gym like we went in, you know. It's part of the hotel. Yeah. Just went in the gym, went in the steam room, hot tub, pool. But yeah, Pebble Beach was, it was, and obviously getting to spend the time with my dad, brother, brother-in-law was, it was. Incredible. Probably two of the best days of my life. Really? Yeah. And how many times when you were out there were you like,

God damn it. Thanks so much, PF. I mean, the craziest part, like, shout out Tarp, AWL. He works at Pebble Beach, and he met us on the first tee, and he told us, because I'm guessing that's who you're communicating with. Wait, time out. Did someone fart in there? Who farted? They just... Max, why do you... It was Zach. He gas masked you? And, like, absolutely horrendous fart back here. In the middle of his fucking Pebble Beach talk meetings? It's so bad. Was it memes? It's so bad, yes.

Oh, Zach looks like he's going to cry. And this booth is just like a dungeon of smell. I'm going to smell Hank by time. All right, so it was, I got off, I started the first round at Spanish Bay, double bogey. Second hole, triple bogey. Third hole, and my tee shot in the second hole was just a complete dunk. It went away. It wasn't even close.

third hole, stepped up, hit a par, and then the fourth hole, I had a nice mini driver, 54 degree wedge, hit an 8-footer, and then on a par 3, I hit like a 30-foot slider back to back. Can we go back to Max's Shane Victorino story? It was phenomenal. Alright, I bought some time. Alright, okay. So what were you saying about Tarp? Tarp, yeah. So he's AWL, he works at Pebble. Yeah, that's your guy. That's your guy. We asked him to hook you up. And he came out and he was like, yeah, Big Cat and PFT, they enjoy doing this so much, it's going to be an annual trip. And I almost cried.

I was ready to cry. Tarp said that? That means so much. I think Tarp is paid on commission. The fact that we're going to be able to do this all the time is an unbelievable annual tradition that you guys have started, and I just cannot thank you enough. I think Tarp is trying to make some money. I was just reporting what he said to us. Annual trip.

That's what he said. On us. That's what he said. I actually said... I can't argue with it. I'm reading my DMs. We did do that. We're fucking awesome like that. Thank you, guys. We're so sick. Thank you, guys. I'm reading my DMs with Tarp right now where I did say we would like to make this an annual trip if Hank can break 90. And I did it. Spanish bread. Would you shoot at Pebble Beach? I shot a 95. Oh. What?

So he said that to you before you teed off, right? I also sculled my tee shot over at 7th Green. Oh, cool. Let me hear more about your golf round. All right, you brought back gifts? I did bring back gifts. Why'd you bring gifts? We gave you the gift. I know, but I... That was part of the budget. I gave him money for gifts. I felt, you know, I felt, and that's kind of like, it's a fun new tradition on the podcast, Shane, Max. So, Big Cat, I know, you know... Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. Did you give me a pope?

I felt bad about the Pope and Max got you the Aloha. They did not have a Pope, but they did have this little Pebble Beach golf cart figurine. That's so cool. Oh, man. It's exactly what I wanted. Right next to my broken Pope. Where's my Pope? Where the fuck did my Pope go? Every time I get a gift, I forget I don't have my Pope anymore. I took it out. I found it.

I thought I put it back on his desk. Shane stole it. It's on his desk. Shane stole the Pope back. Get the Pope back. Go get the Pope. Get the Pope back. I got a little figurine. He's a thief. People are going to be like, holy shit, have you traveled everywhere? You'd be like, yeah. Is that the Popemobile? My buddy Shane went to Italy. That's the Popemobile. We paid for Shane's Italy trip, too, and Max's Hawaii trip. PFT.

Again, we're boys now. We're in lockstep. And I know, I think it was the last time or a couple times ago when we were golfing, I was giving you a lot of shit for your belt.

You were wearing a formal belt on the golf course. Yeah, I didn't have a golf belt. And so Hank was like, dude, what is this guy doing going to the course without a golf belt? Oh, yeah, and they cost like $70. I'm not wearing a golf belt. Oh, a golf belt. I got PFT, a Pebble Beach golf belt. That might be what's been holding me back, though, is not having a golf belt. But PFT's never been to Pebble Beach. But you did send someone. I did send somebody. So you can tell everyone. Yeah, it's not stolen valor. I'm like, yeah, it wasn't for me. It's kind of like when you pay for a golf course.

Pay for somebody else, you get to take some honor in that. Let's see, Hank, this feels like it might be a little bit big. I kind of had to guess. I tried it on myself and it was going to fit me, so I figured it would fit you. Look at this. Oh, the clubs come out. Wow. Of the golf cart? Yeah, you can kind of pick them up a little. All right, so it's going right next to my Hawaiian chick and my broken pole. Like this? That's a pretty good fit, Hank.

So this is for tying all my clubs together, right? Yeah. I can use that. Alright. Uh... Look at all the places I've been, guys. Oh, shit. I just broke the Hawaii girl. Memes. For memes. Oh, did you get him a boob mug? Coffee guy. No boob mug, but I got him a nice Spyglass Hill coffee mug. Love it. Add it to the collection. Nice. Um...

Pug is not here, but he's presidential. He's always... Congrats to Pug. Got married. Signing things. Documents. I got him a nice Pebble Beach... Pen. Ballpoint pen. Wow. Very smooth. Shane. I know Shane's always here, hooping, playing games, doing stuff with balls. I got him this Pebble Beach inflatable golf ball thing. I like that. But it's not inflated. I couldn't find a pump here. There's a pump in this office somewhere.

Shane will find it. He loves playing with balls, too. He loves playing with balls. That's like the tennis balls that they have at the majors. I like that. I like any time you can get a giant novelty ball. I'm in. Jack. I don't know if he's in there. No. He's a wild card. We don't know what's coming next with him, so I got him a nice Pebble Beach deck of cards. That's good. Nice. Max. Wait, where's Max?

Max, I know sometimes you struggle with your breath, so I got you some nice Pebble Beach Breathmans. What the fuck does that mean? Pebble Beach Breathmans? I struggle with my breath. You do struggle with your breath. I thought you meant like catching it. Oh, wow. Thank you. You got my Pebble Beach inhaler? Don't worry, I'm not calling you fat. I'm just saying your breath smells. Yeah, thank you. And then Zach, Cream Team.

You know, you're dealing with ice cream, cold, so I went ahead and I got you a nice Pebble Beach winter jacket. Seriously? Yeah. Let's see it. That's nice. Holy shit, that's nice. That's really nice. I got fucking mints. Zach, come put this jacket on. That's awesome, man. Thank you so much for the gift, Hank. Yeah, let's see it. There was a clear...

hierarchy of these gifts here. What are you talking about? What do you mean? I just went for what felt like it fit their personality. It ranged from winter coat. Did you see my little $75 belt? No, did you see my golf cart? It's probably more than $75. Did you see my golf cart? It's sick, dude. I got mints. I got a golf cart, a little figurine golf cart. You know what? You know what? You're right, Max.

I got you also this Zippo lighter with no lighter fluid in it. Oh, that's honestly, wait. That's nice. You wanted to keep, that was for yourself. Is that so he could do flamethrowers with his breath? Yeah. Wow, Zach. It looks great. It looks really good. What a great handshake from Zach right there. I know Hank didn't take his hat off. Bad golf etiquette. I love my mints, honestly. Do you? Yeah. Okay.

I was meaning to go get myself a nice pair of mints. Yeah, you needed that. All the controversial topics. Morgan Wallen, mints. That was a good way to bring up his breath because we've been meaning to do that. We needed to do that at some point. I felt

That was perfect. I was looking around. I was looking for the knickknacks. I was like, oh, no. Max is definitely... My favorite part about it is that Hank put a lot of thought into all these gifts. He really tailored them to the person that he's getting, which is really nice. It shows that he's a thoughtful gift giver. If I had to guess...

So Hank bought a coat for Zach, bought a belt for PFT, and then when checking out, got all of the other clothes. It's like right next to the register. We're all registered gifts. They had a great knickknack, though. Yeah. Zach, you look official in that coat. I feel official. Yeah. I think we all... I was just like, I'm going to get Zach the most expensive thing. I think we all got to get Zach jackets from every vacation we go on.

We can set up like a... We could share this one. We could set it like Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Okay. I'd like to wear it tomorrow. If anyone's got like a golf thing going on, we just... Also, if anyone wants a Spanish Bay... Keychain? Head cover keychain. That's you. I didn't play there though. Yeah, but you need to let everyone know that you like golf because God forbid someone doesn't want to...

Talk about the skull that you had on seven or the birdie you had on six. Back-to-back birdies. The mini driver you hit. Mini driver, 54-degree wedge. Wow. Eight-footer up the hill. Incredible. Isn't that the name of the chick that was in Good Will Hunting? Mini driver. Mini Cooper. I thought your name was mini driver. Yeah, mini driver. Yeah. Smoked. Hank, did you win? Yeah. You were better than your brother, brother-in-law, and dad?

Yeah, I mean, we weren't really playing all that competitively. We were having a good time. I scored the best. You did? That would be a win. Every single time? Yeah. Wow. They all have... My dad...

My dad doesn't really golf. He's like, I've played Pebble Beach like 10 times in the last 10 years. That's sick. These are my home course. What a flex. And my brother and brother-in-law both have young kids, so they don't get to golf as much. Yeah. But you. But me. I'm representing. Yeah. What a trip. What a trip. I truly cannot thank you guys enough. You're welcome. And yeah, I mean, I can't wait for next year. Yeah. Well, he shot 94.

I just was going off what Tarp told me. Yeah. I mean, that's our boy, Tarp. We got it all together with Tarp. Okay. Good show, boys. Mount Rushmore season starts on Wednesday. I think we're going to do some draft stuff with Drusillo. Get some good interviews coming. And we are. I've seen some people ask. We will be having Ryan Whitney on in person, hopefully for Friday. Because I was going to go to Edmonton. Yeah. And we'd like to talk to him.

About everything. Because he's a broken man. Okay. Number three. Who got three first? I think I did. 50 got it. Okay. No, Hank, you can have it. No, you take it. No, you take it. You're still doing the 99 thing, memes? Okay, I'll take it. Six. Yeah, 99 memes. I'll take five. Birdie on five. Oh, yeah. Who could forget? When Pug comes back, are you still going to try and take 99? Yeah, it'll be a wedding gift for him for me to have it.

There'll be riots. What did you take, Max? Six. I'll take... I just got to get a win. 75. Zach, what are you? I'll go 27. Wait, do we have a first lady of the pod now that the pros didn't get married? 21. That's crazy. Come on, three. Come on, 27. 13. Oh, I didn't see the one. 13. I thought that was a three so bad. I thought it was three too. 13.

That would have been awesome if it was three memes. 379 days still, I catch Hank. That's crazy. That's crazy. Love you guys.

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