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What is up, everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem. I am Dave Smith. He is Robbie the Fire Bernstein. How are you today, my good friend? I am doing well. How are you, Mr. Smith? Doing well. I am looking forward to...

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Typically on the show, it is a rule of thumb that we both try our best to live up to, that we act as if Canada does not exist. Good policy. It's just a common sense policy. It's a matter of survival. Well, okay, but in all seriousness...

um we don't talk too much about canadian politics because i don't care yeah obviously uh there will be things sometimes that kind of break through obviously the the most notable stuff would be like when the trucker protests were going on during covid we did a lot talking about that i mean obviously it's a this is our neighbor to the north and it was a very interesting dynamic i mean really you know

debatably like the largest freedom protests in modern America. Sorry, there I go again, making it American, but in recent history and of course the government crackdown of that, like there have been things that are kind of interesting.

And I do want to just preface by saying that, you know, I don't know that much about like Canadian internal politics. And it is difficult, even though Canada is our is our neighbor.

There is a distinct culture. There is a different politics up there than there is down here. Nicer people, dumber politics. That's how I would sum it up. Yeah. And there's some connection between those two, by the way, right? Like there's almost like, you know, a weakness that comes along with the kindness there. But anyway, yeah.

So if you guys aren't paying attention, evidently, or not evidently, the liberals had a big victory yesterday. And this is, there's several things that are kind of interesting about this.

Again, obviously, neither one of us are nearly as fluent in Canadian politics as American politics. And I know I have been accused before, and it's probably true to some degree that I'm somewhat guilty of making everything about America.

Um, you know, there's a reason for that though. I mean, largely I think it makes sense. Um, you know, I, I focus on the country that I live in and honestly, even when I'm focusing on like Israel, Palestine, it's because the country that I live in is so implicated in this, in this conflict. And it had, you know, like it's a, you know, it's a number one that just makes sense to me.

America is what I really care about. I have two little children and I do not plan on leaving this country. So like my children are going to grow up in this country. And what I care about much more than anything else is what kind of country they're growing up in. It's I remember Noam Chomsky had this old line. He was something like which I always thought was he was talking about how, you know,

There and this is all true by the way, but that there was like a you know There was during the Cold War there was a ton of like Soviet propaganda about how racist America was and we're talking like right in the aftermath of World War two so like late 40s early 50s and they would talk about you know segregation and how horrible Americans treat black people in the Deep South and things like this now, okay also

all of that was true. You know what I mean? Like they weren't making it up. It was a real thing, but you could also like, look at that and be like, really Joseph Stalin. Like, that's your deal is that you're focusing on how far as you're, you know, like throwing people in gulags, you're talking about how awful it is. It's like,

there's an interesting game that people can play where they always want to focus on the crimes of others rather than the crimes of their own society and therefore somehow kind of like, you know, skirt their own responsibility. It's, you see this all the time. Almost everybody I've ever debated on foreign policy is guilty of this. It's all day they want to talk about Hamas or Hezbollah or Vladimir Putin or, you know, these horrible crimes that other governments commit.

And then you've got to sit there and be like, yeah, but like, okay, but what is our government done? So I do think as a general starting point, it's good to focus most on your own society. But then on top of that, you know, we just happen to live under the world empire. Like our government happens to be the most powerful government that's ever existed. So it just makes sense.

In this case, with these Canadian elections, I really don't think I'm being American-centric or I'm overplaying how much of an impact American politics had on this result. And I do think it's something that is important enough to think about. And when I say this, like, literally, all of, including...

The biggest campaign ads and the victory speech were all about Donald Trump. And so essentially, from my understanding, is basically this. The liberals have dominated Canada, Canadian politics for quite a while now. And of course, Justin Trudeau was like the poster child of this. He was their Obama down to the blackface.

they were basically the same uh and this was um essentially everything everything that you could think of during the rise of what is now known as wokeism in america a social justice warrior kind of democrat type um canada was always a a couple clicks to the left of us

On that, you know, like if we were the, you know, the transgender kind of stuff that, you know, really rose up over the last, you know, 13 years or so, 15 years. Canada was like straight up, you know, they were having, you know, the Bill C-16 that Jordan Peterson rose to fame opposing.

was like mandating speech, like mandating that you have to call trans people by one of their 72 different genders or whatever. There were incidents that I'm sure you remember one comedian who got fined like $300,000 for making an offensive joke. They were always like, they were several clicks woker than America ever got. And this just kind of persisted.

And it was really it seems like COVID kind of broke this and that COVID really gave the Conservatives in Canada like a lifeline because, you know, the Liberals were in charge and they mismanaged everything. And this old and it really looked to a lot of people. And I've heard from a lot of Canadians that like they really thought the Liberals were done and that they were going to come back. And the polling seemed to back that up.

And then, of course, Trudeau resigned in disgrace. And it seemed almost like in a very similar parallel to America in the same way that Obama kind of seemed like almost, you know, this rock star political force that was like so popular. And now you see Obama today and everyone just kind of looks at him as like a scammer. Like it's it doesn't have that same like aura anymore. And it does seem like.

at least according to certainly the campaign ads and the victory speech last night, that what really happened here was that there was a reaction to the stuff Donald Trump's doing. And this is something that I've, I, you know, I've been reading a bit about this this morning. And again, I'm really approaching compared to other issues that I talk about. I'm just much more of a novice on, on Canadian domestic politics. Um, you know,

And not that I'm an expert on other things, but I have a much deeper understanding of some of these other topics. But basically, all these Canadian journalists that I'm reading today, they're all saying it's not even the tariffs. It was the 51st state thing.

And that really struck a nerve with a lot of Canadians. And you know how these elections work. You know, it's like if you move the middle a few clicks, that's the difference. And people in the middle seem to really respond poorly to the idea that even though he's kind of hiding behind the joke, but then keep saying it and then says he's not joking. They really did not like this idea that they were getting bullied.

by this new American president and being talked down to in this way. And look, feel however you feel. I'm not necessarily saying that therefore Donald Trump shouldn't do something he's doing. I mean, I kind of am saying that. But it's quite possible

that this behavior from Donald Trump just took our neighbor to the north from actually moving in a much more positive direction and sent them back into the opposite direction that even Donald Trump would want to say. So I do just think, just to start off, I think there's something, and I'll let you jump in here, Rob, and give your thoughts, but there is something in politics, this is something I've noticed a lot over the years, where almost everybody, almost everybody has a...

has a real issue. They have trouble taking into account in their worldview that no matter what political goal you have, there will almost certainly be a counter reaction to that.

And, you know, there's it's some political equivalent of like Isaac Newton's laws of physics. Like every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction. Like there is just like, you know, it's like it never seemed to me that in the years of like like woke insanity that any of these like young social justice warriors ever thought to themselves like there's going to be a snapback to this. Like if.

if we push this much radical change this quickly, there will be a counter movement. There will be a resistance to this. And I think that's true for liberals and conservatives, left-wingers and right-wingers.

But I just think it's a very because it's like it's a higher order of thinking. It's much easier to just think about the policy you're trying to get into play right now. This is also something I've been thinking about because I'm getting ready to do an immigration debate at the Soho Forum coming up in a couple of weeks. And it's one of my you know, one of the things I think about a lot with immigration for people who advocate for like open borders. You're like, well, what do you think the reaction to that would actually be like, you know, like that?

Have you thought that through? Have you considered that? But it does seem to me, and at least, again, this is what I'm reading from Canadian journalists and pollsters and stuff, that it does seem that, like, that's what we just saw in Canada, was that there was a counter-reaction to Donald Trump's tariff policy and 51st state rhetoric. Any thoughts on this, Rob? Feel free to... I think Canada can vote in whoever they want because they're going to end up under Donald Trump's rule anyway. So, you know, what does it matter? 51st state. Yeah.

I, uh, I, I, I think I, I, listen, I don't love Donald Trump's tariff palace policy. Uh, but you know, if Donald Trump's lunacy, uh, pushes other countries to elect leaders to try and, uh, you know, be more at odds with Trump, whatever.

And Donald Trump does have a way of bullying people. And I'm not... Listen, I'm not forecasting this to be a win, particularly in our trade with Canada. I think we get a lot of cheap energy from them, and that's where most of the Canada trade surplus comes from. And so I don't know that pushing for a change in arrangements with Canada is even a win for our country. But the way those idiots up there want to vote and bring back Trudeau or whatnot because they're annoyed with Trump, it's just...

It's not on my list of criticisms of Trump. Well, look, I certainly understand that. As I prefaced at the beginning, Canada is not that important. But it does suck for the decent people up there that they're going to have to live under this government again. Although, you know, that is the way it works. By the way, did you see, this is a kind of separate point from Canada. It's like Trump just has a different...

strategy for playing the game. And so to say, Hey, if Donald Trump had more diplomacy, look at what would be going on in other countries. It's like, you know, so he might, he might've lost the Canada. He might win another one. I don't know. It's a, no, that's, that's a fair, that's a fair point. Um, on the tariff stuff, have you,

did you see this rob that um and i didn't even have this on my list of things to talk about today but it just popped into my mind as we were talking about the tariff stuff did you see the the back and forth between uh bezos and the trump administration on what amazon's doing here you know i gotta say this uh just because look when it comes to like jeff bezos

versus Donald Trump, my dog in the fight is like, I tend to want to side with Donald Trump, generally speaking. I don't like Jeff Bezos and I really don't like him as a political figure. I think the Washington Post was tremendously degraded under his leadership. But essentially what happened is Amazon said that they're going to basically show you in the price that

What part of it is from the tariffs? And then the White House is flipping out about how this is an attack on the Trump administration and all of this. And I'm just looking at it. I'm like, I just really don't see how the administration has a leg to stand on here. That just seems like a totally reasonable thing for Amazon to do. Like if you're enacting a policy that is forcing their prices to rise for them to just point

just point out this percentage of it is because of the tariff policy. Like they're putting a tax on the stuff that we're selling to you. So we have to raise our prices. I mean, I don't know what's the counter to this. I'm just like, I, that seems totally reasonable. It'd be like objecting to like somebody breaking down the tax on your bill of anything. Would we do that with lots of different bills? And I don't see any re like if, if you were furious at a hotel for saying like,

oh, the room is 250 bucks plus $30 in tax. And you were like, just say $280. You're not allowed to say that or whatever. You know what I mean? It's like, this just seems silly. So I actually have a bunch to say on this. I was talking to a buddy of mine this morning and I do think that there's a great opportunity in the market right now for someone to create a Amazon-like website that only sells American-made products and gives consumers an opportunity to know that things are made in America.

now when it comes to amazon letting you know the price increases because of tariffs first is i think the regime uh did quite well with amazon and that it disguised a lot of the inflation that would have existed in the market by being able to uh make use of cheaper foreign labor and importing goods that otherwise would have increased more substantially in price and they might be cheaper goods they might be goods that don't last as long and they aren't of the same quality

but i believe that uh foreign manufacturing has helped the regime disguise what would otherwise be a larger tariff problem uh in terms of them turning around to amazon and saying that this is what like they were they didn't quite use the word treason but they were using it was pretty strong language yeah very aggressive language of them undermining the regime i i was reading this book for a while and it didn't really quite grab my interest but it's called propaganda and it was from like freud's i think son or grand names

edward bernays yeah so i i read it on plane rides over the course of too long for how short of a book it was but there was one piece in there this was prior to the donald trump terrorist where he was taught where the author was talking about how to sell the american public on that tariffs are bad

And one of it was like a department store that had dual pricing of like the with tariff pricing. And I was almost surprised that a brand hadn't done that yet. And that this is a very good way to educate customers or the voting public for, hey, here's the cost.

of tariffs and this is what this is now going to cost you. I'm surprised that somebody hasn't done that sooner. I think Amazon is, you know, people are trying to complain, oh, well, why didn't, why didn't they do that during Biden's inflation? Well, two, that's not just Biden's inflation. A lot of that came from Donald Trump's policies during COVID of shutting down and sending money to consumers. That

This someone has to fact check me on. If you're in the business of cheap goods, I don't know that inflation is definitely bad for your business. Like, I don't know that Amazon is killed by inflation because they're the provider of the cheaper goods and services. They might actually pick up customers and make better use of the supply lines. I don't know that. So in other words, they're advertising something that actually affects their business model, which is tariffs. Yes. It's not the same thing as them advertising, uh,

price increases because of inflation. I don't see them being as, that to me is not a consistent criticism. And I think just to put a point on it, the Donald Trump administration criticizing them for pointing out, hey, this new policy from the government is increasing your cost of goods. Seems like fair play to me. Yeah, there's a lot of interesting points there. And on that

point about whether price inflation actually helps Amazon. I mean, I guess we'd need Gene Epstein or Bob Murphy maybe to like school us on, on one of these, but I, I will say that I know this is somewhat anecdotal, but I think it gets to the point, but like, I know in, in my town where I live, I know there are three, um, you know, what you would call mom and pop stores that have been here for, I believe all of them were around at least 30 years that have closed. Um,

in the last two years. Like I knew there was like a shoe cobbler and there was a toy store and a bookstore, all of them closed in the last few years. And so I do think it's like, yeah, I think that's who really gets screwed by the price inflation is like, we all kind of know, like, you know, there are these kind of like nice little neighborhood stores that just don't have the economies of scale of these giant, you know, companies. And they got to charge a few bucks more for every product. And, you know,

typically people kind of know that, but they like supporting their local store and they think it adds to the charm of the town or whatever. But when you have areas of high price inflation, like when people's like, you know,

If your mortgage is going up and your energy costs are going up and your car payments are going up and your groceries are going up, it just puts a lot more people are like, yeah, if we got to get toys for the kids, I'm going to order them on Amazon because they're just going to be cheaper. You know, it's like you got to find ways to cut where you can and you could directly see these these small businesses just like could not afford.

you know, figure out a way to make that work. And so at least in that example, it does seem to kind of back up what you're saying that like, oh no, it's good for Amazon because they're the cheap alternative. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Monetary Metals, a phenomenal company I've been telling you guys about for a while. If you own gold, you

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All right, let's get back into the show. Your example or your point about a department store doing it or something like that, you're right. I completely agree. It's almost surprising more haven't done it, but Amazon doing it is just so devastating because it is the biggest goddamn virtual store that almost everybody uses now.

Look, again, it's like, I don't know. I think the administration is in a weird spot where they're just basically going like, don't let people know about this bad economic policy. Don't let them know that this is the reason prices are going up. But I don't know. That to me seems pretty...

pretty weak, just a really weak argument. I don't understand what like it. I'm just saying, like, if you were going to make this argument, wouldn't you also have to say that it's again, they didn't use the word treason, but I wrote, you know, they did use very strong language. And it was like, would you say the same thing about a hotel, every hotel room I ever got, or I think just about all of them, they always show you what the tax costs are.

you know are they also you know like in defiance of the state government or something like that because they're letting you know that this part of the price is artificially imposed by the government are they not allowed to let you know that like even if you defend the taxes on hotel rooms

that is still what's accounting for this raise in pricing. And so why should we not know this? Like, is your argument somehow that like, this is a good policy? You know, you're he's, he's bragging on one hand about the revenue that it's going to generate, but then like, you're not allowed to point out where that generated revenue is coming from. Like, this is just too nutty to me. I don't know. So I just really, it's just one of those things where it's like,

It just seems like a really bad fight for the administration to pick, especially when over the years when Donald Trump was crashing Bezos, he was doing it from the position of having the, you know, the, um,

The moral high ground, you know, trash in the Washington Post for running all these articles about the Russiagate nonsense. It was totally just humiliating. I mean, all of them. The Washington Post and the New York Times, you know, we probably give, we probably give, over the years, we've given like CNN and NBC more shit because they're so much more egregious in the way that they would cover it. But the Washington Post and the New York Times just totally, I mean, like, um,

severely degraded their own reputation on the Russiagate stuff. Just totally, you know, like they ran with the story too and never, then it was such an opportunity for either of those papers to blow the lid open on the whole thing, you know, and just be like, yo, this is all, this is all complete horseshit. It was all right there in front of us. There's no reason why me and you could do it. And nobody at the Washington Post or the New York Times

could other than they didn't want to but so when donald trump was trash trashing jeff bezos for running a fucking propaganda rag he was doing it with the moral high ground but now he's trashing them for letting the consumers know where the increase in prices come from i i can't really get behind that just seems too uh too ridiculous i don't know

Okay. All right. Moving on to the, let's get into this because this is an interesting topic. There were articles of impeachment were introduced against Donald Trump. Shocker. This is, it really is, I don't know, Rob, it's, I'm curious to get your thoughts on this, but I find this kind of interesting.

well there's a lot of things that are hilarious about this and before we play this video i just wanted to be clear i'm not going for the cheapest joke here alone we will probably cover that too but there is a broader point to this but i guess i would just preface even before we get into this uh this video

There is an unbelievable dynamic that's been at work between like, you know, you have the corporate media and the Democrat Democratic Party basically one, you know, apparatus and versus Donald Trump. It's basically been going on since 2016. Yeah.

It is amazing, amazing the ability that the Democrats and the corporate media have to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. It's like as soon as Donald Trump does something where you're like, oh, he played it bad there. This is a weak move for him. They go, hold my beer.

We will over dramatize this and make complete fools out of ourselves while doing it to the point that he'll start looking better.

Like, it's just always the dynamic constantly. And so, you know, we were saying like, yeah, you know, the way Donald Trump is going about these deportations sure does seem to be like the dumbest way to do it. It sure does seem to be the way that's going to get the most pushback and the least amount of illegals actually deported. Like, what the fuck is the strategy here? But then there's this. It's like to introduce articles of impeachment over the case of a guy.

It just seems to me to be like, look, dude, I don't know how to say this. If tone deaf was a clip, the clip we're about to play is the personification of tone deafness. It's just nothing. It's unbelievable. Like literally the, what is it? I sent the, in a video, it was from chief nerd, great Twitter account to go follow. But he, he posted this and just said, this is not a Saturday night live sketch.

It is. Here's the video of Democratic Rep. Shiri Tanadar on why he's introduced articles of impeachment. This is Congressman Shiri Tanadar.

Donald Trump has already done real damage to our democracy. But defying a unanimous 9-0 Supreme Court ruling? That has to be the final straw. It's time we impeach Donald J. Trump. The court said the wrongfully deported Kilmer Garcia must be allowed to return and receive due process.

Trump ignored it. He ignored the Constitution. He ignored the very checks and balances that keep our democracy intact. This isn't an isolated incident. It's part of a dangerous, deliberate pattern. That's why today I introduced a resolution to impeach Donald J. Trump, outlining seven articles of impeachment. Article 1.

obstruction of justice and abuse of executive power. I'm sorry, we have to pause for a second. Who is this burn victim Spock who talks like he's an Indian Muppet and don't you need to speak English well to serve in our government? What county does this guy represent? How is this possible? Rob, how insane is that?

that, like, you just can't make this up. Look, I'm sorry. Again, I'm not, like I said. I don't even know what he's saying. All I'm hearing is only cash. You buy two Slurpee, you get three Slurpee free. But, like, genuinely, like, is there no Democratic strategist who went, hey, if we're going to impeach Donald Trump over the issue of immigration where he is objectively

popular, like he's got the support of the people over and this is the big immigration fight and we're going to impeach him over the issue of immigration. I don't think this guy should be the front man. Like, come on, dude. I mean, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be insensitive and I'm not trying to be like a dick and I don't like, you know, I do not. Look, I do not like the some of the kind of like excesses of bigotry in the right wing reaction to some of this stuff.

But at the same time, it's like, dude, come on. Like, it's not just first of all, and this is just whatever. We're comedians. We're allowed to fucking make jokes about this shit. It's our only area of expertise. This is where we've been. We can make jokes about this. But it is an objectively just hilarious accent. Okay. But all right. Whatever. I literally need a translator for the burka burka pika baka. I don't know what he said.

In any, like, it's just so crazy to me to have a thick accent. Yeah.

and then be leading the charge about immigration and impeaching the president who was elected with a popular mandate to crack down on immigration. It's like, dude, do you not see the optics here? Like, it's like, how do you, I'm sorry, but like, I don't know. This is how I always felt. But like, if I wanted to like, say, go move to Japan and, um,

I, let's just say the Japanese government or the Japanese culture allowed me to move there. Like there was a legal pathway where I could go live there now. And I wanted to live there because I thought it was a better place to have a life for my family and my kids. I'm going in there and I barely speak the language.

I've learned it a little bit, but I still have a thick, thick American accent. And then the Japanese people overwhelmingly were like, hey, look, you came here legally and that's fine. There's a whole lot of people who came here illegally and we do not allow that. Like we get to choose who comes and doesn't come and we want the people who came here illegally to get out.

And someone was like, I think it's really wrong the way they're going about doing this. You should lead the charge against this. I'd be like, no, dude, I can't lead the charge against this. Like, maybe I'll support you and your effort if I don't agree with the policy. But like, obviously, I can't be the one to do that because you guys just let me in here. Like what? This is crazy. It's absolute madness. And it really does. Yeah.

It kind of it just gets to like the fact that there's a much bigger picture here, especially when it comes to immigration more broadly. And the reason why like immigration is has become one of, if not the biggest issue across the West.

Not just in the United States of America. This is all throughout the West. Immigration is one of, if not the biggest issue. And there's a reason for that. And like when you kind of zoom out and you look at it, there's...

Look, for many years in America, obviously, like, as people kind of know, like, the caricatured version of American history is this kind of, like, we're a nation of immigrants. We're all descendants of immigrants. And there is some truth to that. Like, there were huge waves of immigration into America. But, you know, like, the truth is that if you actually look at American history, it's much more like...

it's much more like a chart that ebbs and flows. Like there were big waves of immigration and then there were, there were periods of time with very low numbers of, of immigration and essentially pre, uh,

uh before 1965 I believe it's 65 double check me on this but I believe in the immigration uh act in 1965 is what really altered like the the way immigration is done there it used to be before that period that the government explicitly gave favor to European and Christian countries

that were immigrating here and this is part of the reason why we had giant waves of immigration from ireland and uh italy and you know places in europe and not from south america uh that changed in the mid 60s and now i again you'd have to go check the numbers but for for a long time now i mean immigration is overwhelmingly i mean i think it's 80 plus percent is like um

you know, from third world countries and it's, you know, Brown people of different types. Um, now again, I'm not nothing against Brown people, nothing against third world countries. I'm just saying like, this is how the immigration policy changed. And the thing about it is, right. Is that the American people never supported it.

ever. You know, in 1965, I know that Ted Kennedy, I believe, was one of the people leading the charge for the 65 Immigration Act. And the way he sold it was by explicitly saying that this will not change the racial composition of America. That was how he sold it in the mid 60s. Now, he was lying through his teeth. That's not actually what ended up happening. But I'm just making the point that there's never been a time

where there was a vote on this or where the American people were asked and said like, hey, do you wish to radically and drastically change the racial and cultural composition of the United States of America? And if they ever had been, it would have been a very resounding no. And that's why Ted Kennedy had to sell this as it's not going to be that. Because look, think about it like this, right?

So in the year we're talking about the 60s here. OK, so in 1960, the country, the racial dynamics of the country where the country was 90 percent white, 9 percent black, 1 percent other something right around those numbers. I mean, I have that exactly right, but it's very, very close to that.

And, okay, you essentially had a biracial country, not a multiracial country, a biracial country. And what do we all know? Like, what is the biggest story of the 1960s?

It's the civil rights movement, right? I mean, like it was already in that environment. There were major conflicts and problems that were a result of having a biracial country. Now that's not to blame anybody, but it's not to say like, and by the way, the black people were the victims in this scenario. I'm not blaming them for the racial. I'm just saying it is something that comes along with having more than what, with having a non-racist,

uh, homogeny, what am I saying? Um, you know, with, yes, there you go. Uh, you know what I'm saying? Like there are, there are issues that come along with that. And then if you're talking about like drastically changing the red, there's issues that come along with that. And the people never supported this. No one ever said they wanted it. And in fact, we've seen just over the last four years, how unpopular huge amounts of unfettered immigration is. And, and,

You know, just in terms of the optics, I'm not even talking about the case. I mean, we could get into that. You could give your thoughts on that. But just in terms of the optics of like having somebody who speaks like a foreigner lecture you about how the president who just won every swing state and the popular vote can't go through on his immigration policy. It's just like, dude, look, there is.

there's a lot of dynamics going on here there's a lot happening but on top of all of that right like you could look up the um the um like census projections and stuff like that and like america i think is supposed to be a majority minority country in the next like couple decades um and i think ultimately we're we're going to be a majority hispanic country now that's a big change

You might be all for it. You know, you might think that's great. And maybe there's an argument for why that's a good change. I don't know, to be honest, what that argument is, but like, maybe you think that's, that's a good thing, but it is a drastic change. And, and,

For all the people who scream so much about democracy, yeah, it says sometime between 2041 and 2046 is what Natalie just put in the chat. And that's, by the way, this is not that far off in the future. You know, as you get older, you realize like, oh, that time creeps up pretty quickly. But like, even if you think this is an overwhelmingly good thing, if you believe in democracy or whatever, as many people claim to, I'm just saying the people don't want it.

If there was a referendum on this tomorrow, it would be an 80-20 issue easily. You know, like it is not, there has been no point where the American people have said, this is what we want. And so while you're doing this, okay, and this is true, like all across the West, I don't think there's any population in the West, any white population that's like has a sustainable reproduction rate. Like it's all false. You know what I mean? And like, okay,

Feel however you feel about that. Again, as the example that I used to use all the time was like, if you went, uh, if you go to Italy and you were to say, Hey guys, I've got some fantastic projections. Okay. Italians, listen up. Um, look in the next 30 years, this isn't going to be an Italian nation anymore. Italians will be the minority here. It's going to be a mostly French nation. Isn't that awesome?

I think most Italians would go, no, we don't find that awesome. We don't wish to be France. We wish to be Italy. And that doesn't mean they're racist. That doesn't mean like they hate French people or anything like that. It just means that like it's a very normal human reaction to be against that. And what you're what you're seeing here right now, and this is a huge factor in American politics, is that like.

There. Okay. At the same time, as we're looking down and getting closer and closer to the projections of this drastic change, there was like from the entire establishment, there was this rise in like anti-white racialism where like it in all of like Hollywood in corporate America, in academia, everything was about demonizing straight white men. We had these kind of like

hyper affirmative action DEI policies that are just openly saying, hey, we're going to, through the force of law, we want to see more women of color in positions of power. We want to see more black people in positions of power, more Latinos in positions of power, more gay people, more trans people, like with the force of law behind it. Translated, you know, in plain English, everyone except straight white men

We want to give favor to while your demographic, which is used to being the majority, is getting smaller and smaller and smaller. Now, again, to the point that I made earlier, could you have predicted that there might be a counter reaction to that? That a movement that opposes that might rise up? And, you know, I guess essentially what I would say is that all of this, all of this stuff is

Whether it's like the declining birth rate or unfettered immigration, these are all policies. This didn't just happen. These are because of specific policies that were enacted intentionally by politicians that all of this is happening. And there was never a vote on it. Never a vote. In fact, every time there's a referendum at all, it goes completely in the other way. It's a Donald Trump referendum.

Donald Trump winning, you know, like demonstrates this. Even people who didn't like Donald Trump very much just like, I'm going to vote for this guy because fuck, you know, I don't like. And so like, I just, I'm almost like, I'm, I'm like floored by the optics of this video about introducing articles of impeachment to Donald Trump. It's just like bananas to me. The like, this is why I said it's like if tone deafness was a video clip, it would be this. It's just like that.

read the room man like have have some understanding of the optics of all of this even if you're for the policy i don't know rob anything you want to jump in there it's the same shenanigans where you know you can make the argument for example when donald trump starts telling amazon that they're not allowed to give consumers information uh that that's somewhat authoritarian but

But then when the Democrats come around and they go, listen, voting public, you can't have the person that you voted in. Yeah. And after all these trials and a month after the election, we're going to try and impeach him. That's also cartoonish.

And the reaction you're going to get to the Democrats once again trying to not allow him to actually orchestrate his presidency and start bogging him down with this nonsense, it's worse. It's what I was talking about the other day. The Donald Trump administration throws bullshit at you, and then all of a sudden the Democrats and leftist media throws even bigger bullshit at you, and you're not even sure who to be more annoyed with.

Stepping in now with what Donald Trump's done, there's nothing that should be impeachable. There should be no conversation about impeachment. You know, it's funny. I was going to send this to you as a topic yesterday because I came up with Chuck Schumer that he wasn't going to rule it out. But I was like, all right, they're not really talking about it. It's not even worth discussing. This is the first I'm seeing of someone actually putting it forward. So I think.

conversation from the Democrats about impeachment and impeachment right now is lunacy. And then the fact that this guy's a congressman who barely speaks English or doesn't articulate it well for me to be able to follow him. The optics of that seem unless.

i don't know is this guy did he cure cancer in his region and so he's the immigration story of why we need more immigrants is there some storyline i don't know right about how this guy is the the the savior of illinois or some area where he cured the poor and that this is this is why he's the person to lead the charge

Or does this guy somehow have a job in our government and doesn't speak English? Right, right. Yeah. And I'm leaning toward the latter. Although, please prove me wrong if there is some story like that. But yeah, you know, and of course, like this isn't in a vacuum. I mean, Donald Trump got impeached twice in his first in his first term over just like pure bullshit.

like pure and there's things that donald trump did in his first term that you could argue were impeachable offenses but the two things he got impeached for were not them i mean it's just it is insane like he got impeached for uh what they called a quid pro quo with zielinski and the only problem with calling it a quid a quid pro quo was that he didn't get anything

he didn't get anything you know a quid pro quo means i give you something if you give me something

He never got anything. He basically called Zelensky and kind of like, you know, it was a little like mob type shit. Like he was like, oh, you know, I want you to look into the Bidens and maybe you don't get this weapons package that I was going to send to you. And then Zelensky never looked into the Bidens and Donald Trump gave him the weapons. So like there was just absolutely nothing there. By the way, isn't it fucking crazy that that story gets buried when it's like, oh, the story is that

There was a civil war on the country on Russia's border and Donald Trump poured weapons into it. Hey, how'd that end up working out?

Oh, yeah, Russia invaded. Not so good. But that's the story there. Not that he, for a second, asked for the very real fucking corruption to be investigated. Like, it was just, whatever, it was nuts. And then the January 6th thing was just ridiculous. Just totally ridiculous. And so now you're going to impeach the guy or you're going to, you know, I don't think this is actually going to, you know, take off. But you're introducing articles of impeachment over this. You know, the guy just got back in.

He was enjoying record high approval ratings. His numbers are coming down now. And you think rather than let him continue to hurt himself, this is your play? It's just, it's fucking nutty, dude. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Hexclad.

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I was just going to say in those calls, he was slick enough to say, can you investigate crimes and say, can you create a crime? Can you fabricate evidence? Yeah, that's right. And evidence. And then if you flash forward to the fact that the Biden administration actually ran five court cases against Donald Trump, which

which goes beyond just trying to investigate crimes. I mean, what they did to Donald Trump was a lot dirtier, and it was with our own court system. So the lunacy of that particular claim against Donald Trump. And he did the same thing also in Atlanta, where he was like, can you look in and find me the votes? He wasn't saying flip votes. He wasn't saying create votes. He was saying, can you go look this over? I think that there was voting fraud here, and I just need you to find this. Yes.

You could argue certainly that both of the phone calls were inappropriate, but there's nothing criminal in either of them, you know? And yeah, like you could argue like, Hey, you're getting into a gray area when, you know, it was like a, it reminds me of the, um, do you remember the scene in a wolf of wall street where the FBI guys come on his boat?

And he's talking to the FBI guy and he's like, he's like, oh, you know, it's crazy. It's like my brokers start at $200,000 a year. And, you know, if you ever wanted to do it, like I can I can give that job to anybody I want to. Like if you wanted to get out of being in law enforcement and get into that, you could use

start making money right away. And he was like, did you just attempt to bribe a federal officer? And he's like, no, no, no. If you read the law, that actually is not, then he's right. That's not actually bribing an office. You know, like now you could argue, like you're kind of brushing up against it a little bit, but it's very clearly not a crime. Like they don't get him for that in the movie because that's not a crime. You can say to somebody like, Hey, this is what you make working for me. And that's what you make working for the government. What do you think? But

But Donald Trump didn't even come that close, if we're being honest. And yeah, just, you know, again, with all the other stuff taken into account. By the way, the other thing which I thought was fascinating about the little detail we've talked about over the years is that it didn't come out till years later. But when Donald Trump made that phone call to Zelensky, the FBI was investigating Hunter Biden.

And partially dealing with his business in Ukraine. So it's not like to say that it was like on its face corrupt to ask for an investigation into the shit our government was investigating, too. So it's clearly they thought it warranted an investigation. And how amazing is that that there was not one leak by the FBI? You know, all these leaks.

Always. You just can't help it. Everything gets leaked, but not that one. That one, they kept quiet the entire time. I also don't think Donald Trump has done anything blatantly criminal in terms of news.

Not acting quick enough to bring people back that the Supreme Court asked him to try and bring back I don't think there's any the Supreme Court. Yes. It's not like the Supreme Court said you're in violation of the law He needs to be brought back right now and it has to happen. It was much vaguer than that, right? Like I remember you we're kind of a step away from this conversation in that

You know, I don't know that I'm going to speak with the most clarity on this, but Donald Trump seems to be escalating these court cases in a way that you might have courts mandating something from him and then he defies courts. And then we have a new conversation about what happens if the president is openly defying courts.

And we might get there and that might become a conversation, which is almost along the lines of what was taking place the last time of what happens if the president does break the law. And, you know, if if there's presidential immunity, what happens? Not that Donald Trump's doing this. What happens if he decides to predator drone a political opponent? And then the conversation was, well, there is a mechanism for that, which is impeachment.

so all of this seems very preliminary because donald trump i don't think has actually defied uh a court order yet to have to start having the conversation about the uh criminality of uh of the of of the president and whether or not um i guess there should be an impeachment charge this is just yeah nonsense that's coming like far too early

Yeah, no, 100%. But I just, I guess I just can't get over the, like, the optics of having this guy lead the charge. And, you know, just to be, you know, as we talked about, you know,

A few months back. Seems like a character on an Indian version of Sesame Street. I can't believe that this is the real guy and he's got a job in government. It's unbelievable. And, right, that's unbelievable enough. But that he's doing this on the topic of immigration? Like, I just don't... Listen, to be clear, we talked a few months back when Vivek Ramaswamy had that viral tweet that really seemed to lose him a lot of favor amongst, like, his base. And...

And he was out of Doge shortly after. We don't know for sure if those two things were related, but it certainly seems like they might have been. And I did think, while I thought that Vivek missed the mark a little bit on that tweet, I did think the backlash he received was unfair. And some of it was just like straight out, like bigoted. And I don't like...

There's a Natalie question. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't coming through the mic. I'm not hearing it at all. I did think it was unfair, the backlash he got. Personally, as I've always said, I'm not a racialist. I don't really like racialism. I'm just not pretending it's not a fact or doesn't exist, I think is stupid. But

Look, I don't want if there's any movement that doesn't have room for Vivek Ramaswamy or Sagar and Jetty or someone like that, then fuck that. I don't want to be a part of that. And I think those guys are like those guys have been goddamn heroic on so many fucking issues. And so, like, I think it'd be stupid to like.

you know, base things off of like race or, you know, not even nationality because they're both American. But you know what I mean? Like ancestry or whatever.

But there's just something about having this thick of an accent and leading the charge against immigration restrictions. And I understand you could say technically, no, he's talking about violating the court. But like, yeah, but what's the whole policy actually over? It just seems to me like even, you know, like, you know, like when you were when you're younger, sometimes people live with like a bunch of roommates.

or something like that, right? Like you'd have a place that has like six people living together, like a big apartment with a bunch of people living in it. And it's almost like,

like if one of the rooms opened up and then you asked you were like you know the rest of these guys have been living here for three years and then you were like hey can i rent the room and they go okay sure we're gonna need a security deposit or whatever come rent the room and then you got in there and you moved your stuff in and like the first day you were like guys we got to do something about these pictures on the wall and i don't like the tv over there i want it to be over here when you just immediately kind of being like be like hey dude

You know, like you just got here. We've all been here for a while. Actually, how about you adjust to the way we do things and not start like lecturing everybody else about adjusting to the way you do things? To me, that is like basic.

decency and courtesy. I would just think it's crazy. It's the example of me, you know, going to Japan and then lecturing everybody about how they have to be more inclusive for white English people or something. Like, what the fuck? This is crazy. Can we see the rest of the clip and see if he makes more sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here, let's go back to the clip. ...passes to unlawful deportations, Trump defied court orders. Article 2.

Taking away Congress's power of the purse. Trump dismantled agencies and froze funds without permission from Congress. Article 3: Abuse of trade powers and international aggression. He imposed damaging tariffs and threatened military invasions of our allies.

Article 4, violation of First Amendment rights. He has retaliated against journalists, attorneys, and critics for exercising their right to free speech.

Article five, creation of an unlawful office, establishing the so-called Department of Government Efficiency, DOJ, and giving Elon Musk unconstitutional power over our government and personal data. All right. He's making a little bit more sense than I was giving him credit for. But to me, all these things are political, and I don't think Donald Trump has exerted more –

executive authority than previous presidents, particularly in the fact that other presidents have actually engaged in war without a mandate. He's bombing the Houthis right now without congressional approval, but they'll never go after that because every president does it.

It's so much more of a serious crime and a serious violation of the Constitution. And especially if you really wanted to play that card, dude, they acknowledge on the signal chat that this operation is not time sensitive, that we don't have to do this right now. From the defense secretary's mouth, a.k.a. translation, we could go get congressional approval for this.

but we don't want to it's like there's i mean this is crazy dude say he he's sharing data with elon musk this is an impeachable offense this is just nutty absolutely nutty and it's the just politically speaking it's the dumbest thing the dumbest thing that uh that the democrats could do right you know rob that isn't our congressman's on the case yeah

There you go. All right, listen, guys, we're going to have to wrap up there. We will be back with a brand new episode tomorrow. I got Dave DeCamp returning to the show tomorrow. Very excited for that. We'll get into, obviously, a lot of foreign policy conversation, and I'm sure we'll bring up, as I just suggested, what Donald Trump maybe should be impeached for. Sure as hell ain't this stuff. All right. Thank you guys for watching. Hope to see some of you guys out in San Diego this weekend. Have a good one. Peace.