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Episode #115 ... Structuralism and Context

2018/1/28
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Stephen West: 本期节目探讨了20世纪哲学思想的重大转变——结构主义的兴起及其对存在主义、分析哲学和大陆哲学的影响。节目首先解释了分析哲学和大陆哲学的起源和区别,指出它们都源于对康德哲学的不同解读,分析哲学主要关注语言分析和逻辑,而大陆哲学则关注存在、历史和人的整体性经验。随后,节目重点介绍了索绪尔的符号学理论,认为符号的意义并非来自符号本身与所指对象的内在联系,而是来自符号在语言系统中的关系。这一理论为结构主义奠定了基础,并引发了对主观性、客观性和历史叙述方式的重新思考。结构主义认为,个体的主观性是其所处文化结构的产物,历史的叙述方式也应该超越对领导者和政府的关注,而关注更广泛的社会文化因素。节目还探讨了结构主义与存在主义的关系,认为结构主义是对存在主义的补充和发展,它更强调文化结构对个体思想和行为的制约。最后,节目指出结构主义对科学客观性提出了挑战,引发了对科学研究方法的反思。 Stephen West: 本期节目深入探讨了结构主义的起源和影响,并将其置于20世纪哲学思想的更广泛背景下。节目首先解释了分析哲学和大陆哲学之间的区别,指出它们都源于对康德哲学的不同解读,但随着时间的推移,两者之间的差异越来越大。分析哲学强调语言分析和逻辑推理,而大陆哲学则关注存在、历史和人的整体性经验。节目接下来重点介绍了索绪尔的符号学理论,认为符号的意义并非来自符号本身与所指对象的内在联系,而是来自符号在语言系统中的关系。这一理论为结构主义奠定了基础,并引发了对主观性、客观性和历史叙述方式的重新思考。结构主义认为,个体的主观性是其所处文化结构的产物,历史的叙述方式也应该超越对领导者和政府的关注,而关注更广泛的社会文化因素。节目还探讨了结构主义与存在主义的关系,认为结构主义是对存在主义的补充和发展,它更强调文化结构对个体思想和行为的制约。最后,节目指出结构主义对科学客观性提出了挑战,引发了对科学研究方法的反思,并预告了后续节目将进一步探讨结构主义对各个领域的深远影响。

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The episode discusses the differences between continental and analytic philosophy, tracing their origins back to Kant's philosophy and how they approach epistemology and metaphysics.

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Thanks to everyone out there that supports the show on Patreon, patreon.com slash philosophize this. Thanks to the people that contribute what they want for the back catalog of the show on PayPal. And thanks to everyone out there who's leaving a comment, leaving a review, helping to keep philosophical conversations like this going between people. Could never do this without you. So when we first began this massive, most recent arc of the show on the philosophical conversations of the 20th century, I said the first thing we're going to need is a much deeper understanding of Sartre.

Well, by the end of today's episode, we're going to understand why that was the case. What I also said back then is that every several episodes or so, we're going to need to take a step back and give some context about the state of philosophy and what these thinkers are responding to when doing their work. See, because it's so easy to skip ahead, not understand the questions these thinkers thought were worth answering, and miss out on a lot of big changes that are occurring in human history at this time that shape the world we live in today. You know, I was thinking the other day, since we began this recent arc of the show, I've

Basically, every thinker we've covered so far has been a continental philosopher. But then I started thinking, wait a second, this show masquerades around as a beginner friendly conversation about the progression of human thought in the 20th century. And we've never once talked about the distinction between continental and analytic philosophy. What do people mean when they say continental versus analytic philosophy?

To better understand the story to come that needs to be told, I think it's crucial information to have. So I want to touch on it briefly right now. And whether you have no idea what I'm talking about, whether you've heard those terms used, kind of know what they mean,

Whether you're the world's foremost expert on continental and analytic philosophy, one very important thing to consider right off the bat is to not fall into the trap of overgeneralizing thinkers and rigidly placing them into these two neat categories up in your mind. Someone's either a continental philosopher or an analytic philosopher. That's that.

Really, these two words, they're not titles to be branded into the side of thinkers. They're more just practical terms that are used when people are broadly discussing the history of philosophy in the 20th century. Thinkers cross over all the time. But nevertheless, it's important to understand why people usually talk about philosophy as having two distinct approaches during this time period. There are several different theories, but one of the most common ones is that these are two different areas of philosophy that can ultimately be traced back to assertions made in the work of Immanuel Kant. Real quick, if you remember,

Kant's doing his philosophy right after people like Hume and Leibniz, right when philosophers are reexamining the more classical idea of what truth is and how we can arrive at knowledge, right after ideas like what's often called Hume's fork or Leibniz's claim that there are only two ways we can ever arrive at the truth about things. There are truths of reason and truths of fact.

When he says truths of fact, he's talking about something that we can know is true because it could be immediately verified empirically in our experience of the world. For example, someone can say the faucet is on in the downstairs bathroom and Leibniz would say that we can know whether this statement is true or false because we can actually walk into the bathroom and immediately experience that the faucet is in fact on.

What Leibniz means by "truths of reason" are things that we can know are true simply by virtue of the definitions that we've prescribed to the terms in the proposition. For example, "All triangles have three sides." "All bachelors are unmarried." "One plus one equals two." In other words, it's the definitions of the terms in these statements that make them true.

These are examples of truths of reason. Now another name these two types of propositions get in philosophy around this time are a priori propositions, truths of reason, and a posteriori propositions, truths of fact. Well, facing this argument during his own time, Kant finds himself in a really tricky situation. The problem is, if these really are the only two kinds of truth that we can arrive at, where does that leave philosophy?

truths of fact where we empirically verify things. That's the realm of science. That's what science does so well. Should philosophers just start becoming scientists now in Kant's time? On the other hand, with truths of reason, is the life of a philosopher just to sit around talking about triangles and bachelors all day? And here's his point. Might there be another type of true statement that can be made that we're all forgetting about here? This is where Kant introduces his idea of a synthetic a priori proposition, or simply put,

There are some things out there that we're capable of reasoning to an understanding of that don't just have to do with the definitions of things like statements about triangles and bachelors, but that aren't the kinds of things we can experience empirically or measure with a science experiment.

Well, here's where the split between continental and analytic philosophy starts to emerge. We have on one hand, through the work of people like G.E. Moore, quickly on to Bertrand Russell, Ernst Mach, then on to a group of thinkers that would eventually become known as the Vienna Circle, which we'll talk about soon. On one hand, thinkers like these started taking issue with Kant's concept of a synthetic a priori proposition.

This branch would eventually develop into what's known as the analytic tradition of philosophy, while on the other hand, an entirely different group of thinkers took issue with what they saw as problems in Kant's concept of there being two distinct worlds that exist, a world of things in themselves and a world of human experience. This branch would eventually develop into what's known as the continental tradition within philosophy.

Put another way, we have one major approach to philosophy at this time that primarily takes issue with Kant's epistemology, that's the analytic tradition, and another major approach that takes issue with Kant's metaphysics, the continental tradition. Now, as you can imagine, as thinkers start giving their responses and then the responses to the responses and so on, what's actually being talked about starts to resemble Kant less and less. But many historians of philosophy still trace the origins of these disagreements back to the work of Kant.

Now, as you can also imagine, as these two different approaches to what philosophy should be spending its time on continue to develop, both camps come up with their own unique individual methods of conducting philosophy.

For example, if you're a member of the analytic tradition, and what you think philosophy should be focusing on is getting philosophy out of the business of making sweeping metaphysical claims as it has in the past, and in the business of following up philosophy's long history of questioning what we can know, how we can know it. In other words, linguistic analysis, formal logic, how our thoughts work, what's wrong with consynthetic a priori, what exactly are we engaging in when we say something like, all triangles have three sides?

Now if these are the kinds of things you think philosophy should be focusing on, well these are very clearly defined problems to deal with and your solution is probably going to involve being very analytic, breaking propositions down into their component parts and understanding the relationship between the parts.

why is this an important thing to focus on for us as a species? Well, language and the way we make propositions about things in the world is again, not some method that was handed down by a deity or some philosopher king in the form of Webster's dictionary. No, language is a massively flawed, totally imprecise, messed up collection of agreements made by a bunch of people in the past. Just consider the fact that in the past, whenever we've used reason to arrive at ideas that are hopefully going to make the world a better place,

sometimes have made the world a pretty horrible place, we're ultimately communicating those rational thoughts through the filter of language. So if you're an analytic philosopher, like say Wittgenstein, for example, the thinking is we have to figure out this language thing and this formal logic thing a lot better than we do right now.

Because what if most of the problems we run into with the ideas that we're coming up with just come down to people using language imprecisely? Or even worse, trying to use language to talk about subject matters that language is completely incapable of describing? Now, if you're a continental philosopher,

It's often said that analytic philosophy focuses on analysis. Continental philosophy focuses on synthesis. We've already seen examples of this in the work of Sartre and Simone de Beauvoir and Marcuse and many others. What this is, is any set of ideas that attempts to look at a wide array of things that have to do with existence. For example, history and people and art.

art and literature and economics. They look at all these things and they try to find some way that all of these can be synthesized together and understood by relating to some grand philosophical narrative. Consciousness is freedom. The ambiguity of existence. The historical forces of domination and liberation. The study of ontology, if you're Heidegger. Questions in the continental tradition sound more like,

What does it mean to be me? How do I fit into the world? How did the world get the way that it is? What is the nature of subjectivity, etc.? Now, why should these questions matter to us as a species? Well, as we've already touched on in the Heidegger series, there just seems to be more to philosophy than studying language and thoughts and the propositions that we make. I

Language and formal logic are a prison that he's trying to break philosophy out of. This is why he's so interested in using phenomenology to study being at its very foundations. In other words, before we ever get to add on these abstractions and human inventions like language and logic that just narrow and distort the way that we look at what it is to be.

He'd say that if you go every day of your life with people describing what the world is to you in a language that requires for something to be a complete sentence, there needs to be a subject acting upon an object, a world where you're required to frame every thought that you have in that exact same way. How much of an effect does that have on the way that we see ourselves? How much of an effect is that going to have on the philosophy that you're going to produce or the way you're going to treat other people or anything else? Now, understanding these two distinct approaches to what people felt philosophy should be focusing on

is crucial context to have because it's right around this time. There's about to be a breakthrough in human thought. It's a breakthrough that's going to instantly get people to rethink the way humans have been looking at practically every field of study in the past. It's a breakthrough where once people started talking about this insight, the major works of it explicitly calling out the work of John Paul Sartre,

Sartre being someone, by the way, who was a public intellectual, he wrote every single day of his life, always had thoughts and responses to give. And even he never replied to the criticisms of his work. The feeling in the philosophical community at the time was that this was an admission of defeat. This was a breakthrough that made several of the foundational claims of existentialism start to seem pretty naive, started to make the history of how we've been approaching everything seem pretty naive. And what's really interesting to consider is

is that this breakthrough didn't come in the field of philosophy, or science, or mathematics, or any of these fields where it may seem more likely for a major breakthrough to occur. No, it actually came in the field of linguistics, through the work of a man named Ferdinand de Saussure. So I want to talk for a little about this insight that Saussure has, it's most easily seen when we look at language. Then for the next few episodes, talk about the massive implications this has on practically every other field of study when thinkers apply it.

Ferdinand de Saussure is credited with being the founder of something called semiotics. Semiotics, put in a very simple way, is the study of signs. Signs, put in a very simple way, are things that people use for practical reasons that stand in for something else. The basic concept we're talking about here is not complex at all. It's something all of us do thousands of times a day and don't even think about it. One example of a sign that we're all familiar with would be a word.

Let's say I wanted to convey to you the concept of a cow, right? Well, without words, how do I do that? Well, we could just walk around until we find a cow on the side of the road and I could frantically point at it and jump up and down. But quite frankly, nobody really has time to do that. And then once you show me the cow, now what? What, you just wanted to show me cow?

No, there's something ostensibly about that cow you wanted to tell me, and now we have to walk around until you can point at the next thing. Nobody wants to live like this. So what do we do? We come up with a sign that stands in for that cow when there's not one immediately next to you. The word cow. The word C-O-W, cow, acts as a stand-in. I can write it on a piece of paper, I can say the word cow, and it instantly delivers to you a message that has a very specific meaning that's transmitted into your head.

Now for our discussion here today, the terms sign and word can pretty much be used interchangeably, but it should be said that semiotics in the study of signs goes far beyond just the study of words. For example, if I wanted to convey to you the concept of a cow, I don't always have to use words. I could draw you a picture of a cow, and that picture could vary from just a doodle of a cow on a post-it note to the most photorealistic painting of a cow you've ever seen.

I could mime to you what it looks like to be a cow and moo and frolic through the grass on all fours. That's a sign too. You know how two people that don't speak the same language will try to communicate sometimes by acting out what it is they're talking about? That's an example of them using signs to try to deliver a message with a specific meaning to another person. But signs even extend beyond some person trying to convey a message. You could look at a field and see the lines in the grass and the smell of fresh cut grass. And that could be a sign that delivers the message that the grass was just cut.

Now, when you study all of these examples of what signs are, Ferdinand de Saussure says that all signs can be broken down into two primary parts, what he calls the signifier and the signified. The signifier is the actual word cow or the drawing of the cow, or more generally, just the thing that's standing in for the thing that's being referenced that isn't right in front of us. The signified, as you can probably guess, is the concept of cow that's being referenced. It's the concept of the thing that the signifier is standing in for.

Now, all this may seem super obvious and like we're just needlessly complicating things that are really simple. Yeah, okay. There's a word and then there's the thing it's referencing. Got it. But what Ferdinand de Saussure does next changes the world. He makes the claim that there is zero necessary connection between the signifier and the signified. In other words, there's nothing about three squiggly lines on a piece of paper, the letters C-O-W, that necessarily corresponds with the four-legged creature frolicking around in pastures all over the world right now.

What he's responding to here is a long tradition of thinkers wondering how exactly languages emerge. We assume that at one point there wasn't language, and now there is language. People want to find out, how did that process go? Well, a common theory throughout history has been that it must have started with a lot of pointing and grunting and miming things until language became more sophisticated. And that process of sophistication was guided by people creating words that directly correspond with the world they're trying to describe.

The obvious example of this is onomatopoeia. We say the word meow because it sounds like the actual sound the cat's making. We have the word boom because boom kind of sounds like the sound of something exploding. In other words, there's a direct relationship between signifier and signified that something about the words themselves directly correspond with something about the way the world is.

And there are, of course, very real problems with this theory, not the least of which are the extreme differences just between different languages that are describing the same thing in the world with words that sound and look very different from each other. But again, what Fernandez-Sasur is going to finally say is that there's nothing about the sound cow or the squiggly lines C-O-W on a piece of paper that depicts something necessarily connected to the four-legged grass-eating animal that it's referencing. The word cow is a cultural construction.

We constructed it because we wanted to be able to communicate more efficiently, not because it objectively corresponds with something in the actual world. Now here's the thing: if what Saussure is saying here is true, this raises an extremely important question for the field of linguistics. The question is: at what point does the sound "cow" and the letters "c-o-w" written on a piece of paper become injected with that meaning?

Where exactly does the meaning come from? And what Saussure is going to say is that the meaning of a word lies in the relationships between that word and all of the other words within a larger system. Put another way, the word cow means something to us only in the sense that it is not the word cat or cob or conduit or any of the thousands of other words we have within a larger system that we call the English language. It's the larger structure that gives the word its meaning.

What he's also going to say is that what semiotics shows us on a more macro level, pick any sentence you want that conveys a meaningful message. We actually, for the sake of the example, pick a sentence that's eight words long. Okay. There are 40,320 ways that you can rearrange all the words in that sentence. And practically every combination creates a sentence that is utterly meaningless to us. It's just a bunch of random words next to each other with no meaning to them at all.

That is, until we arrange them in a very specific structure, a grammatical structure, a syntax. That is when things change from just a random jumble of words into a meaningful statement. What linguists realize at this time is that this structure that underlies any meaningful statement seems to be observable. We seem to be able to study it. We seem to be able to actually understand it and predict it.

This premise is the starting point for what would eventually become known as structural linguistics. Now, the thinkers that come immediately after Ferdinand de Saussure start to notice something. They start to notice that these structures appear to be everywhere, not just in language. See, it makes perfect sense to us to look at a sentence and realize that there's an underlying structure to language that makes it meaningful. A little bit more abstract of a concept to consider that there's an underlying structure to music or to a painting or to a work of literature.

A little more abstract than that, and these thinkers that take up Saussure's ideas start to notice that there seems to be a structure to economics, a structure to psychology, a structure to history, a structure to practically every field of inquiry there is. These structures almost seem to be like...

like fingerprints left behind whenever you have any humanistic endeavor. Whenever any human being in history has tried to make sense of the infinite complexity of this universe we live in, they do so by imposing these narrow structures that we humans can understand. And here's the thing, just like the structure that underlies language, these structures are observable. These structures can be studied, understood, and even predicted.

This is a moment in history when a lot of fields of study that used to be considered part of the humanities turned into the social sciences. In other words, a science. There is a scientific, almost mathematical way that we can look at these structures that underlie and ultimately determine the world we live in. Now all of this gets these thinkers to start looking at subjectivity in a very different way. Because think about the implications of this new approach that becomes known as structuralism. And I don't want to spoil anything that's to come on the next few episodes, so I'll keep this very general.

Thinkers around this time are starting to consider things like, well, if what gives the letters C-O-W meaning is just their relationship to thousands of other words within a larger structure. I mean, if what makes the word cow meaningful is just the fact that it's not cat or horse or platypus, maybe the meaning of what it is to be you is just the relationships between you and what it means to be the thousands of other people that surround you every day. Maybe the only thing that gives you your own sense of self-identity is just the fact that you're not

you know, Jared and the marketing department down the hall and everything that makes him what he is or Mariana, the construction worker and what she is. The subtle differences between the words C O W and C A T are comparable to the subtle differences between you and any of the others that surround you. But these thinkers go further than that. When it comes to the metaphor of the eight word sentence that we talked about,

Look, there are practically an infinite number of potential sentences that you can construct. The individual words in those sentences can be scrambled up in an enormous number of ways. But it's not until they're in a very specific structure that they can start working for us. Thinkers around this time are starting to ask. Well, there are practically an infinite number of possible cultures that can exist. A near infinite number of ways for human beings to chop up the universe and organize their societies in a meaningful way.

What if it's not until our cultures conform to a very specific structure that they can allow for society to function properly?

That even though on the surface there seem to be massive differences between cultures, ultimately they all conform to the same narrow structure humans have used when desperately trying to make a society that not only functions, but one that we can comprehend. That's important too. See, that's the other side to this that the structuralists are going to point out. There are no guarantees in nation building that it's possible to reject these structures that allow for society to function so much that you create a world and a culture that human beings are incapable of navigating.

When people started thinking about subjectivity and what it is to be you in these new structuralist terms, the idea of subjectivity as we've traditionally looked at it starts to dissolve away. What it starts to look like is what it is to be you is to be a single instantiation of a culture, a culture which is an extremely narrow structure that human beings have imposed on the infinite complexity of the universe so that they could create a society that functions.

That every thought you've ever had, every thought you will have in the future, every bias, every preference, every moral intuition that you identify as a huge aspect of what it is to be you, all of these are just stories that have been given to you by a culture that was structured in such ridiculously narrow terms that any claim that your worldview is harnessing some level of objectivity about the way that things are is just downright delusional.

Where else would you have gotten the contents of this thing you call yourself? That in a very deterministic way, this thing we think of as our self starts to dissolve. It starts to resemble just a fleeting, revolving door of stories that we tell ourselves given to us by the time period and culture that we happen to have lived in.

The best way to illustrate what we're talking about here, I think, is to remove you and me from the equation altogether. Let's just talk about all the other human beings that have existed throughout history. People in 13th century Europe, people in 9th century Baghdad. Why did these people have the view they did of who they were and where they fit into the world?

Well, these changes brought about by structuralism are happening right around the same time people are drastically rethinking the way historians record what has happened all throughout history. And this change is relevant to this discussion, so I want to talk about it. See, it was really common around this time, and you still see it in today's world to a certain extent, but it was really common for people to tell the story of history by talking about it in terms of leaders or governments acting out their will on the world around them.

We've all seen this before. You know, when the story of human history is told by talking about things like, you know, Hannibal invades Rome, Harun al-Rashid and the Chinese government establish an alliance, two world powers unite.

Napoleon invades Russia, the winter forces him back, and then this treaty is signed by the government, or this embargo is passed. In other words, human history is often told solely in terms of what leaders and governments carried out over the years. But historians start to realize that's actually an extremely narrow lens to be telling the history of the world through. I mean, if you're a historian over the years, it makes perfect sense. You want an accurate account of what's happened in the past.

Governments, generally speaking, keep good records. So if you're a historian, you can actually go into the archives and see the signed document for when, for example, a declaration of war was signed or a treaty was agreed upon. But are these events a comprehensive picture of the history of the human species?

People are starting to ask, why is the history of the human species any more Napoleon invading Russia than, for example, the evolution of what it is to be an average citizen in India from the 1100s to the 1400s, or anything else for that matter? The point that's being made at this time in the early 20th century is aren't there countless other ways we could be telling the history of the world, many of which having nothing to do with this small handful of powerful people changing the world to fit their image?

Now, this is not some feel-good point where we're trying to stick up for the little guy and belittle the accomplishments of powerful people in the past. This is more just trying to get the conversation going of what sort of thinking does looking at our history like this produce? And what structuralists are going to say is that what this has inadvertently done is cause people, when they're looking back at history, to have a bias in their thinking towards the idea that it's the subject that dictates what happens in the world, not the world that dictates the subject. See, when Napoleon invades Russia,

There's a sense in which Napoleon is this autonomous subject with free will, and he's freely using that subjectivity to change history for everyone and invade Russia. But what if it was the other way around? What if instead of it being that Napoleon changed the world, what if the world created Napoleon and everything he ever chose to do? What if instead of this old idea of subjectivity that dates all the way back to the pre-Socratics, that were these autonomous subjects equipped with free will, tabula rasa, instead of all that, what if what it is to be a subject?

What it is to be you is to be a product produced by a particular narrow, practically microscopic take on the universe given to you by your culture and time period. Let's talk about a specific example of this. There's a famous historian named Lucian Favreau who right around this time attempts to reconstruct what it would have been like to be a person living in France during the 16th century. He looks at everything. He looks at

social dynamics that existed at the time, the language that was being used, how it was being used, the nature of how people see their relationships with other people, even down to things like the way the average person would have perceived the concept of time. And one of the primary conclusions he arrives at after having done this is that if you were living in this society during the 1500s, it would be absolutely impossible for you to ever be an atheist.

Not because your brain is incapable of grasping the concept that maybe there isn't a God. Not that if we sent Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris back in a time machine, they couldn't convince a few people. No, because of how deeply religious thinking pervades everything to do with the way you would have viewed your place in the world. Because of how much you would frame everything about your life in terms of its relationship to a deity in a very deterministic way. You would just never arrive at the belief that there is no God. It would be completely impossible for you to.

The culture and time period that you are born into dictate the narrow parameters for what you can possibly think. Now you can probably see where this is going for the structuralists. Do you think for one second that the culture you were born into is any different than that? That there aren't countless ideas that you will just never arrive at because of the narrow parameters of thought your time period has set up for you that allow you to make sense of things? What ideas exist out there right now that no human has ever had access to because of these incredibly narrow ways that we make sense of things?

But even that question is filled with what structuralists would see as a very old, kind of delusional way of thinking about epistemology from the history of philosophy. There's this general idea that spans all throughout the Cartesian tradition, all the way back to people like Plato. It's the idea that we are these subjects, we think really hard, we reason about things, and then we arrive at ideas that are out there in the ether somewhere. That as long as we stand in the Athenian agora and talk to Socrates long enough, there is no limit to the understanding we can have about the universe.

This goes hand in hand with the Enlightenment era notion that as long as we just reason about things long enough and clearly enough, there's a famous quote, one day the sun will shine over a humanity who acknowledge no other master than their own reason. That reason is capable of being successfully applied to all aspects of human life.

But seeing human beings through this traditional lens philosophy has often viewed them through, as these sort of open-minded reasoning machines, almost disinterestedly interpreting the world around them, that was on the way out. This moment in the history of human thought seems like a changing of the guard to a lot of people. How much does the environment you're born into, and the language that you use every day, dictate not only what you do think, but what you can think?

That as we'll see, even when it comes to what seems reasonable to you at all, reason itself is in many ways dictated by social forces and cultural mores that are almost impossible for the average person to see while they're immersed in it. This whole shift, not surprisingly, comes on the heels of the initial work of the Frankfurt School. Remember, the Frankfurt School is really into Freud and Marx, as many thinkers are around this time.

Well, Freud and Marx are often credited as being sort of proto-structuralists. Freud for questioning the traditional idea that we're these totally free autonomous subjects and accounting for the possibility that a lot of your behavior is based on unconscious drives that are out of your control. And Marx, I mean, yet another example of one of Marx's ideas that later thinkers see as tremendously flawed, but overall pretty much on the right track.

something called Marxist superstructure theory. Very briefly, Marx wants to challenge something that he would see as a pretty naive picture of the world. That when someone, for example, creates a work of art, that that work of art is a free, uninhibited act of creation, just total freedom plastering itself onto the canvas. No, what he'd say is that the kind of artwork that you produce is always going to be massively dictated by something that was entirely out of your control, the economic and material reality that you were born into.

The idea is that any authentic piece of artwork that was created by a worker and consumer is going to reflect the narrow set of values given to a worker and consumer at birth.

You're always thinking and creating from a particular perspective. You can't help but create from that perspective. And this goes beyond just artwork to Marx. We can't help but bring to bear the biases produced by our economic system when we produce our systems of government, or our political positions, or our religions, or any other byproduct of human thought.

All of these byproducts of human thought are part of what he calls a superstructure, a superstructure that always and necessarily has to emerge out of the economic reality of the world. Someone like Marcuse would agree with most of this, but he'd probably want to add that it's not just the economic reality of the world, it's the socioeconomic reality that you're born into. A structuralist would look at both of these guys and think they're massively oversimplifying it. We'll talk about why next time.

So this is why there were a lot of people around this time that saw structuralism as the successor to existentialism. You know, the idea that consciousness is freedom, the idea that we have every option in the universe available to us and all the dread that comes along with having to make a choice about that. The thinking at the time was like, okay, yeah, that may seem like our experience of it. And you very well may get tons of practical insights from the existentialists and the value of those is not cheapened in any way by this. But the reality of the situation is,

We don't have every option available to us. We're not totally free. That every choice we make and every thought we have is ultimately dictated by an extremely narrow set of parameters that were given to us. Throughout our lives, we're always navigating within those narrow parameters that make sense to us. Shouldn't we try to understand exactly what those parameters are and how they work? Now, real quick, in closing, I think it's important to have some context about the fact that

I mean, shouldn't be too much of a spoiler at this point. Structuralism is going to have massive effects on many different fields of study. But the people structuralism is going to hit the hardest is anyone that's interested in objectivity or something that even remotely resembles it.

not the least of which are the scientists of this particular era. And honestly, you can understand their concern. One of the goals of science is to be as open-minded as possible in your hypotheses. And when you're actually conducting the experiment, to check your ego and your preformed biases at the door. Well, what if somebody told you that this whole time what you've been checking at the door are really just your most blatant biases and that you can't help but bring tons of other prejudices to bear when you conduct science? It's the very structure of what makes things intelligible to you.

What it starts to look like is that what it even is to say that you're conducting science is to look at the universe through such a severely limited window that scientists start to question whether the entire task is doomed from the start. And on the coming episodes, we'll talk about why that's not the case. So as we head into this next big chunk of episodes, I hope we're all a little bit better off understanding the larger context of the conversations going on during this time, what challenges these thinkers are facing, and why the specific questions they're asking mattered to them in that moment.

As far as all the other moments yet to follow this massive breakthrough in the early 20th century, trust me, this story is just beginning and it's about to start getting good. Thank you for listening. I'll talk to you next time.