Episode 19: Octopi and Spaceships with Cameran Eubanks
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Guys, we want to apologize. I know that there was some audio corruption in the episode. We're not really sure what happened, but hey, there's a learning curve to all of this and we are sorry and we promise we'll make it up to you somehow. What's up, everybody? Welcome to episode 19 of Pillows and Beer. I'm here with

Austin, we are pumped. We've got a very, very special guest joining us this afternoon that we've been waiting for a while. That's right. Well, hey, Craig. And we've, yeah, we've been trying to get her to come on for a while. And she always tells us yes, and then something comes up with Palmer or something. And...

We got her, Craig. We landed her. That's right. Palmer, that's not a giveaway. We were talking about our old co-star and great friend Cameron Eubanks. She'll be on talking about God knows what because we're nervous. We think she's nervous too. I don't know why any of us are nervous. Seems like this has become a bigger deal than ever.

We planned on with her being on here. Pillows and Beards doing great. We love all you guys, but she's made it kind of a challenge to get her here.

That's right. I, uh, I'm sure that she'll tell you, but, but I kind of blackmailed her, Craig. Well, I didn't plan that. I, I bartered with her, which I didn't even know that I was going to barter. Cause, cause I was just helping out a friend. And then I said, Oh, I know how you can repay me because she said, I owe you huge. And a couple of days later it, it, it clicked in my head, Craig. And I was like, this is how we get her to come on. So here she is.

Well, while we wait for Cameron to get here, she's dropping Palmer off at school. This will be one of our first morning podcasts. So how do you feel this morning, Austin? I think this is new, new for both of us, waking up and recording a radio show. Definitely. We, as most of you know,

We normally film at night, and we have a couple beverages, and we let the conversation flow, and we're loose. I mean, who's to say that that won't happen? But at this point in time, to be looking at your fresh face at this AM, Craig, is definitely different, and it's a first, especially from where we came from, because if you all remember, this all started from our Instagram Lives during quarantine, and those were definitely...

not 9am-ers. So I've been wanting to talk to Austin about for a while. And actually I just kind of put it on the back burner. But then when I was at his parents' house in Kiowa, I noticed the same thing, but Austin, you put your toilet paper roll like underneath where it comes, like I put it so that the paper comes over the top.

You and your family do it from the bottom. Definitely. I just, I can't comprehend why you would choose to do it from the bottom. Tell me why you put it from the top and why. If you pull down and it rips, if you pull down when it comes under, it just unrolls it. I mean, this is such a product of how I was raised, I guess, because if you're noticing that it was at my parents' house, then I subconsciously do it at my house. I didn't know why you did it at your house, but then I noticed that your parents' house in Keyleth does it.

A bit of roles. And why you are the way that you are. Presented by Pillows and Beer. I just... Yeah, I noticed that. And it's funny. I wrote it down in my notes a while ago. I text myself even the random stuff all the time, too, by the way. And it used to be, you know, show notes, Craig, where I'd be like, oh, this would be like a fun thing to film. This would be a fun thing to film. Now it's always, this is like, this would be a fun thing to record with Craig. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's funny how...

I mean, you and I do everything differently. You know, like, a lot of things... The small things were, like, opposite songs. Like... But, yeah, the twirl thing, bro. No, I... Now that you're saying it, it, like, makes me cringe a little bit to, like, have it on top. I don't want it on top. I don't like that at all. Because I just thought it was an accident the first few times, or maybe, like, the cleaning ladies did it, and then I was like... And when I saw it at your parents, I was like, no, they're, like, an under-roll family. I don't know what you'd call it, but...

it's an under role family well yeah craig and i are gonna get into fights but whatever you want a little under role family um that and then you know what really bothers me too and this just seems to be like i'm the only person in life that doesn't do this but didn't this used to be like uh

A segment of ours, we're like, you know, it really chaps Craig's ass. Well, then have I told you this before? Like when people put dishes in the sink instead of leaving them on the counter.

Because a lot of people just want to put them in the sink so the kitchen looks clean and they're like, oh, we'll just get to them later. Problem is people use the sink while the stuff's in the sink and then touching it is that much more. I hate that. We can agree on this. I when I cook, I essentially clean as I go. Unless it's like a big old dinner, you know, with a lot of people there. But if I'm cooking for myself, I cook.

I clean all my stuff before I even sit down, right? Maybe I'll like let like a pan, you know, soak, but that's it. That's it. That's, that's, that's, you know what I do? And I'm, because I know afterwards when we go there with our plates, then just like you said, all this other shit's going to be in there and you're like, ah, get out of here. I mean, that's kind of like an OCD thing, man. I like to keep it clean. I like to keep it clean. No, I mean, I respect that, but I just leave it all on the counter and then I do it later.

I'm just saying when you put it all in the sink and it gets gross and for whoever has to empty the sink, it's nasty. Oh yeah. Let's just go down my podcast notes. Also, I'm looking at mine too. I do some, well, one thing that we bonded over, over the weekend with cheese and mustard, cause I've always dipped cheese in mustard and we took Delta eight and watched entourage and I pulled you excellent selection of cheese and Austin's parents house.

If there's one thing that you should know about Wendy is that she will always have cheese and she will always have a selection of meats. I mean, she is ready to make a cheese board at any given moment. Yeah. So we started to eat the cheese and mustard too. We filled it over there and I was like, I'm eating cheese and mustard. And I was like, I will eat anything right now. I mean, I wish that there was honey there, to be honest. Yeah.

Wait, just like a yellow mustard? Or was it like a Dijon mustard? Or was it like... Like grape of bond, which is good too, but it was just straight up French's yellow mustard. And we would cut a cheese, a slice of cheese off the cheese bog. We'd pour mustard on it. Like squirt mustard on it and just eat it. But wait, what was the cheese? Oh my God, this sounds like the highest thing you could possibly do. It was a Swiss. Like it was a Swiss. I mean, it was anything. And we were just watching Entourage. Yeah. It's amazing. I'm sure you go back to that.

Yellow mustard. What? Dude, yellow mustard and cheese and tell people, try it. It's life-changing. Well, it's kind of like a mini sandwich. You can add like pickle spice in there. Without the carbs. Yeah, without the carbs. And then something that I'm

I do, but I don't think you're supposed to. But in Charleston, it's just hard not to. I wear flip flops and jeans because I wear flip flops a lot. I've started to wear kicks more going out, but it's just so easy to wear flip flops in Charleston. But I like wearing jeans, too. So I really like flip flops and pants, which I think is a good thing.

Well, I'm glad that you can wear anything right now because my house is packed up, Craig, and I've been wearing the same pair of pants for like three days. And I hope that no one notices, but I don't have anything. Like when we are done here, I need to figure out where my clothes are. Is this why you haven't been posting this week? I...

That is a whole number of things. But I, I do. I, Craig, it baffles me how you get away with sometimes your, you know, wardrobe. I'm like you. And, but like you, you've been living like this, you know, correct me if I'm wrong, because I was thinking about this and I was like, Austin, it's not that bad. Craig has been doing this for the past year as your house has been under construction and like asbestos. Yeah.

So I keep on reminding myself, Craig, like, look, Craig has been doing this for so long. He's been...

you know, living out of like a suitcase and, and like only having a couple of things, you know, here and there. And like, I can't find anything right now. And then I just run myself. I'm like, Craig has been living out of a suitcase and he like, you did it for so long until just recently. Right. And like, you know, your house is now set up for the past, what, like, you know, five, five or so months or six months. So I don't even know, but,

Well, you get in a bad habit of buying new clothes because you're like, oh, I'll just get on with my life right now. If we had a Zara, our lives would be a lot different. See, that is funny. And when I was coming here...

Yeah. So recently, because I'm packing up kind of everything except for like a little suitcase full of like some things I realized I did not pack a nothing. I'm like, I'm just going to go down to the shops and buy new everything. And I'm like, wait, if there's one thing that I don't need is new anything. There's so many clothes everywhere.

And I don't even know how I got on this tangent, but it is messing up my life. So I might just adopt the Craig approach where it's like flops with everything. Flops with everything. Like I realized that I have three boxes labeled shoes, Craig. Three boxes. Like I don't need all those shoes. I just need flops. Yeah. Once you get all organized. But yeah, moving is the absolute worst. You're definitely in for an annoying week. But it's exciting as you're moving in.

to uh something with finality and permanency which is great yeah yeah but um i mean i i'm gonna purge like i might just like kick some boxes off the back of the moving van when we go like you know and just learn learn to like adapt without it because i would be fine with without half of my you know like i mean you yes no good craig i want to drop off some bags of stuff for

for you. Yeah, that'll be good. You'll join us this week and we'll let you guys know how that goes. And then speaking of Austin's new home, something that I can guarantee you will be a, um, attribute of this property is all the lights will always be off, which I'm terrified of. And I'm scared of the dark and Austin. What do you mean? All, all the lights always be off when I go to bed. Yeah.

and when you're leaving, which to me is a great way to signal bad guys. No, no, no, no, no. That's actually not true at all. I always keep the lamp on that's next to my front door. And the light that's in the corner of my kitchen at the moment is on 24-7. Okay. And then if I leave town for...

a long period of time, I turn on my bedside lamp, right? So like if you and I are going somewhere for like a week or two, yeah, I turn on my bedside lamp. But for some reason I had that written down. So for... Did I turn off all my lights? No, I will definitely not be doing that at my new house. I had it. I will definitely not be doing that at my new house. But that's something that I cannot do. And...

I've been with people where they turn off every light before going to bed and that's just a nightmare to me. It's terrifying. That's something too. It's so annoying that my folks do that. They're like, if I'm out at Keua...

They obviously go to bed before I do. I'm usually up a little later. And they're always like, okay, make sure to turn off all lights. And then if I wake up in the morning, they're like, you didn't turn off this light and that light and this light. I'm like, okay, okay. Coming home to a pitch black house, that's scary. Yeah, I normally always keep on. And my house here is kind of in the woods. And if I pull up and the cleaning ladies or someone turned off all lights before leaving, which I understand, I give them credit.

Because a lot of people wouldn't want that. I do not want that. Yeah. I will just sit in my car. What do you keep on? I keep on like the hallway light. Wait, hold on. The TV in the living room. You have to finish that. What? What you just had to say. I want that to sit in my car. I have to get the courage to walk into my house.

And I believe it 1000% because when Craig was crashing at my house, you know, a lot of times he would crash on my sofa and I would wake up and there would be like a hammer next to him. And I'd be like, what is this, Craig? And he was like, oh, what do you mean? I didn't want to sleep with that. So it'd be like a hammer from my toolbox. And let me just tell you that the hammer from my toolbox is a tiny ass little hammer, Craig.

I woke up to it one time, so it makes me laugh to think that you have a sword next to your bed or something.

I want to know what you would do actually if I came in with the intent of robbing you. Craig, run downstairs with two hands on this sword like a samurai. That would be... I would keep it hidden and like... Gotcha. Wait. Would you... I know this is a weird... Under my like pillow so I could grab it if I hear him come in my room. You do not keep it under your pillow. Then I'd

So I know that this is like a morbid question and anyone probably has a weapon with the hope that someone just sees it and they get terrified and run away. But how would you use this sword, Craig? Oh, you have? Oh, perfect. Run me through what you would do. Pun intended. Run me through. Okay. Because I had a machete with me at all times in the Bahamas for coconuts. So not the bad guys.

but also for bad guys, but also, yeah, I obviously slept with the machete. Okay. Um, which was like the safest place ever. Yeah. Um, uh,

My machete has a lot of weight to it. So there would be like some scrawl, skull crushing hits. It's really sharp in the front. It's a little stomach jab. Oh my God, you'd stomach jab. We need to record. This is why we're like, and we will start putting videos up. We finally got clearance to do that. But I'll do a video demonstration of my machete. This is amazing. Okay, so it's not a sword. It's a machete. Yeah, well, it's like when you, it's hard to explain. It's a half sword, half machete.

This is incredible because I just think like I, like in my house, Craig, I've, I've only felt unsafe, you know, once because I woke up and, and, and I'm sure that everyone does. It's like you wake up and you have like a hoodie, you know, hanging up somewhere and you're like,

Who is that? Someone's in my house, you know, and that happens. And one time I woke up and I thought that, you know, there was like a noise downstairs. And when I tell you, I was paralyzed with fear. I was paralyzed with fear. You know, I was like a little kid in the sense where I was like, if I put the blanket over my eyes, they will not find me. Exactly. So I'm like, just ransacked my house. And I was afraid to move because I was like, if I get up, then they'll hear me.

And then they'll just, you know, the run upstairs and the logical thing to do is to run upstairs and like, and pew, pew, pew. And I was absolutely paralyzed. So I don't know if you're like a jump to action kind of guy. And if you'd be like, I got this, but it seems to me that you're not because you're too scared to go into your own house. If there's not a light on. No, that's just calculated risk being like, what am I going to do? But no one ever knows until you're like, that's right. And, and,

Craig, okay, let's lead this into, I just remember growing up in high school, you know, you're like talking to girls and you're flirting with them and the best thing to do ever was call each other on the landline, right? That's what, and these girls would call when the other parents were gone and be like, oh,

I'm in the closet. Someone's in the house. I know who they are. And I'd be like, no, they're not. And countless times I showed up to like, you know, girlfriend, you know, friends that are girls houses, you know, with like a baseball bat and be like, there's nothing here. You live in a great area. What are you talking about? But that would always happen. Would that happen to you? No, I don't. I wasn't cool. Like I didn't even talk to people in the field. Like I didn't have that really experience. Cause I didn't start dating. Like,

My life kind of took off the first day I got to college in Charleston. Oh. But like in high school, I didn't really, I mean, I had friends who were, well, no, because I think by the time, that's exactly what it was. By the time I started to date or talk to girls, texting had been invented. So like middle school, no. No, no, no, no, no. One time someone go on my house. Yeah. Or I had to call someone. But high school texting like was invented and that's when I started talking.

In middle school, we would sit up around a phone and put on speaker, you know, me and three buddies would show. And then the girl would have a couple friends and we'd all just be talking on the phone, flirting, you know, when I was 14, 15. And then in high school, I had a cell phone in high school. Did you not? Yeah. Well, I got one.

Whenever, like, I guess freshman year that, you know, just to call my parents after breakfast. Yeah. But then junior year, I think is when texting. Yeah. Okay. Okay. That's probably true, but I had a cell phone, I guess in high school guys. So Craig and I graduated high school in oh six. Yeah.

So we're talking like the 04, 05, 06 time period. Still picking ringtones and stuff. Absolutely. Oh my God. I used to, in college, I used to have friends call my phone and I'd let it ring on purpose so people could hear how cool that my ringtone was. I was like, yeah, it's this sick Phish song. We used to change pledges.

But in reality, people hear that. They're like, shut up. No one cares about, you know, chameleon air. I see you rolling. No one cares, man. Well, I think Cam's probably a couple minutes away. So unless there's something else that scares you. I was just thinking I have like a couple windows in my house that aren't covered. And at night I can't look out them. I have to keep my head down when I'm like walking around my house. Because if I look out,

I'll be like, what, what happens then? What was that? I'll like see something and then I'll, I don't know. God, if I went down that path, who knows what would happen? So whatever cams a couple minutes away, we're going to take a quick commercial break. And when we come back, our buddy, Kimmy will be joining us. She'll be here live in person. Alrighty guys. This episode of pillows and beer is supported by best fiends. Craig.

You know that you're my best friend, right? You know, my ride or die? Sure do, bud. Why do you ask? Well, I only mention it because you're always there for me when I'm up, when I'm down, even when I'm sideways. Yeah, where is this going? All right.

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dot com that's l i q u i d i v dot com so as your formal intro cammy everyone's okay for your listeners obviously she needs no introduction but one of our best friends and former co-stars uh cameron eubanks and now published author oh yeah tell everyone about your book

Um, my book, I mean, it's, it's, um, it's called one day you'll thank me. And I, it's done pretty well. It there's a little bit of something in there for everybody. Um, I mean, it's primarily, I would say aim towards moms, but I've even had a couple of men. Yeah. I was going to say, I could read this book. And they're like, this book is going to make me be a better husband and father. That's cool. Are they fathers though? No, they're like single guys. Just a little bit. Craig, we should read this book. Let's do a reading. Yeah.

I think it's a great title, by the way. Well, now you'll thank me. Was that not taken? It's so, yeah. I mean, yeah, it was taken, but I don't think that matters. Like it's so hard to come up with a name. Definitely. Like, what do you name him? It's just, I think it's hard to come up with a name for anything. Like, yeah. I mean, a name for your child. You're sitting there like, I have to call my child. This book is a great name. It is. That's great.

That's a great name. It does. I was telling Matt the other day, and I was like, just so you know, I approve of your book title. Yeah. Shep and I did this thing at the PGIT.

uh, for ESPN plus and the announcer had like, you know, Googled him or like, you know, the co-host and asked him about, uh, his book title and Shep's kind of explanation of it made me laugh. I was like, that was really well done, you know? And he was like setting expectations for yourself. Like, are you bound to fail or something like that? Like, it sounds dark, you know what I say? But I was like, that is really funny. And that's so you Shep. It

And the guy laughed. He was like, that's great. But you're writing a book too, right? We always started like last April, I think. And what's yours going to be called? Well, mine's Pillow Talk. Pillow Talk. Oh, it is? Yeah. And at first you said that it was going to be a book about, but like now it's like a memoir? Yeah. Well, I didn't think. At 33? At 33 you're writing a memoir? I didn't think.

book in your 30s and call it a myth. I don't know. That's apparently what they're calling it. It's basically a story about how I got to the point where I am now. Right. So like short stories. Well, it's an odd, like it's, it's, it's basically follows everything that the store stands for and stuff. Like it's encouraging and it's a motivational book to be like, I was laughing so hard.

coming over here because I was thinking about how we go back and I was reminiscing about the time that we came and picked you up from that shit apartment you lived in and this was like season it had to have been season one

Which was, God, how many years ago was that now? Eight years. Eight years ago. I was 23 or 24. I wasn't even there. That's wild that they, like, plucked you out of college. And Fred was, like, such a child. Definitely. He looked like a child. I mean, he was, like, scrawny. I do not get those pictures sometimes. And, like, clean, clean shaven, and he was white-faced. I always, when I first met Fred, I remember, I'm not trying to, like, you know,

blow your head up or anything, but I remember thinking Craig is going to age well. Like Craig, I mean, Craig was like a six at the time. But I saw he had potential. I saw he had potential. You know, like you could just tell like when he just got a little bit more manly. I could tell Craig was going to blossom as a man.

And you have. I mean, you have. The love for Craig continues from Cam. That's for sure. She just got me a six. Well, you were a six. She said you were. Well, I remember one of my – I was a six in college. Favorite memory of yours?

When we went up to New York, like me, you and Shep. And I think you looked at me, we were at like cocktails or something. You're like, I think Jason's going to propose. And like, yeah, you looked at me and you're like, I think when was this? And I was like, you're going to break a lot of people's hearts, but obviously I was happy for you. Yeah. Like you're, I mean, season, like, you know, that was season two, I think, or whatever. And then your first season, did you live with roommates? Yeah.

Yeah. Yes. He lived in this like cracked den. No, that was season two. Or that was season two. Season one was the fawn quarry. That was like the Bogart street. That's where I'm like, where we went to your wedding from that house. And we saw like the ghost child in the middle of the road. Yeah. That was so weird. That was when Shep and I were in, you know, a lot. And then we all went to the New York and season one credit. Y'all got the DVDs. I mean, I, I have, I've heard the cops came to your room. Yeah. Wait, what happened? I don't know.

Wait, wait, wait. What did you just say? When he stole the Gatorade on accident. Oh, yeah. So when I went to New York, this was, was it season one? Or maybe when we were just casting the show or something. Yeah, season one. I am convinced I was roofied. I think something, somebody put something in my drink. You told me this too because, because I almost got arrested in Times Square. A release, wait, a premiere party. We were up there for interviews. We were up there for interviews. And,

I tried to hang with Shep and Craig. That's what you did. I tried to hang with Shep and Craig. Which is called space, babe. You tried to hang. But I think I got Ruthie. She did. She did. I think I got Ruthie because I got back to my room and I woke up around midnight and I started, it was coming out both ends. Oh, jeez.

I don't think Rufus does that. I don't think you woke up at midnight. I was probably like four in the morning. No, and I apparently was so dehydrated that I was delirious. So I went, I stumbled down into the hotel lobby. You're like, are these free? And I went to the concierge. And this is not Charleston, South Carolina. This is New York City. And I'm like, I am so sick. I just need something to drink.

There was nothing in the room. And I didn't have shoes on. I was so delirious. And she was like, man, you can walk to Duane Reade. And so I was like, okay. And I have no shoes on, remember? So I'm just trying to picture myself doing this. I'm walking in Times Square barefoot. What? I go into a Duane Reade.

And of course, in New York, there's cameras in all the drugstores, right? I get a Gatorade out of the refrigerator and I just start chugging it, like trying to get myself back to life, but I forgot to pay for it.

So this homeless, pretty blonde girl just walks in barefoot. Barefoot. The homeless people in New York. She's like, that's a pretty homeless girl. I get out of the store. And then like two minutes later, I get a tap on my shoulder and it's a cop. He's like, ma'am, are you aware that you forgot to pay for that drink? And I started just crying. I'm so sorry, sir. You don't understand. I had a really bad night last night. And he just looked at me, girl.

You've got to be kidding me. I had no money. What did you do? I was like, I think I need to go to the hospital. Who is the guy that owns our show? Yeah. And I was so sick. I literally couldn't see straight. So anyway, so then I had to go to the ER. Oh, you did go to the ER? Yeah, I went to the ER. You were unaware of all this, Craig? I was still sleeping. Meanwhile, I called his phone.

his phone like 12 times trying to get him to shut the door. Listen, girl, I know how that goes. So anyway, I went to the ER. I got two bags of fluid. That's a lot. That is a lot of fluid. Yeah. Also, this is the reason that we don't do the test. By the way, she just went out with me and ship all night. Okay. Right. Okay. Okay. We went to like the flower shop back to that.

But listen, this is why we don't do interviews in New York anymore, because I showed up like four or five hours late to my interview. Right. And was so wrecked that like, I don't even think we could use it. And chef did the same thing. You do that still. You do that still. No, I've been good ever since I stopped being an Adderall. Unfortunately, y'all, the following part has been removed due to spoilers, but we can't wait to tell you all about it.

And everyone thought we were fucking crazy. I think I saw a picture of the girl that you ended up with, and she is like drop. She's one of the prettiest people. She looks like Naomi Campbell. She is like freaking beautiful. She's like almost too pretty where you're like, how is this even possible? I know. I was like, I can't get like a photograph, you know, with you. You're going to make me look awful in every picture. Speaking of, do you know who else I think is so pretty that I like, well, I sat down and had dinner with for the first time is Craig's girlfriend.

Craig's girlfriend. Shep's girlfriend. Taylor. Taylor. Oh, she is. No, she is like a natural beauty. But she's so much prettier in person. I agree. Pictures, like, I mean, I just was like staring at her the whole time. She kind of looks like you a little bit. Well. A little bit. I mean, don't you see it? Yeah, I do. I never saw it until. Oh, is that the cat with the snake? Oh, yeah. She's going hunting again. Oh, she's chasing something. Weird. Weird.

She's back here. I'm going to take this cat with me to my new house. There's a cat next door that is a huntress, apparently. So I live next door to a condemned home. And the house cannot be torn down because it's protected. Nothing can be torn down. And so ever since I've lived here, so I've been in this house for two years. And I met the guy. I was like, hey, I want to buy this house. And he was like,

Everyone does. Me and my brothers bought it and we don't know what to do with it because they're telling us that we can't do shit other than add on to the end of it and do all this stuff. I'm like, this house just needs to be lit on fire and start from scratch. But they come by every couple weeks in the middle of the grass and

awful we were just gonna have a brand for a second but we had oh my goodness i mean this is like what you buy when you're going how dare you my mother buys this in bulk she loves lamarca from costco yes your mama can't i would love to drink champagne but i can't drink it you can't drink what i can't drink champagne why not in massachusetts

Because of the sugar? Yeah. And I really wish you would come out with a wheat beer. I will. So I can enjoy it because I can't do IPA. I'm a beer snob and I know if you did a wheat beer... You know what? That's my next beer that I've been thinking of. I'm kind of perplexed that you came out with an IPA as your first beer. I would think that you would do more of something...

Obviously, IPA has a huge... It's catered to the masses. That's all Jason drinks, but I figured you would do something like... So that's what Shep said too, and I'm sorry, but Shep's palate is trash. I mean, that man can't eat food without dumping freaking hot sauce on it. I'm like, you have torqued your palate. You have no palate. You're drinking a Mexican beer. But I understand what you and what him are both saying in the sense that it's like, well, why didn't you soak...

What it is, is that I wanted to make just like a kid, she'd be right. Just like a grapefruit. Like, you know, people look up at like, you know, the thing and they're like, oh, look, it's a grapefruit IPA that can be enjoyed kind of year round. And so I put the grapefruit in there to kind of draw people. And then I tried to make it as like not as heavy as an IPA as possible so that people, so that people can drink it really good.

good. But yes, I get it. And Cam, a wheat beer is next. Do you like a fruity wheat beer? Definitely. Okay. Just listen to this. An apricot wheat beer. Yes. Apricot wheat beer. You need to get your regular beer made first. Trademarked. Yeah. Yeah, I do. I am bone dry. You've been out of beer for a month.

Okay, two weeks, Craig. Sorry, two weeks. But we have a kegerator in the store, and so everyone... I mean, bone dry, and all the hair shooters and everyone that... I was actually listening to your podcast on the way over here. I was listening to the episode you had with Paulina, and were you talking about how you had the handle in your store? And it ran out so fast, and then when I went in, they're like, where's Austin's beer? Where's your beer? Where's your beer? And I'm like...

But people don't realize that has nothing to do with you. I know. I think that has nothing to do with you. It makes me tear out my hair and I'm like, production and this and that and I can't do anything. Like, I can't do anything about it. Just have to just wait until it comes on Wednesday. Have you crossed paths with Paulina? Wait, it is Wednesday. It is Wednesday. I was going to meet her on, at the tournament. Yes.

I guess, Chef, y'all are with her. Yes, we were all going to meet on number one because Dustin's tee time was at 2.09. Did you get mobbed? I was there at 10. I was there at 10 o'clock. So we had to leave because I was out at Edister for the week with my family. We had to be gone by 2.30. So did you go to the first tee to see Dustin in the tee offer? No, he never made it. Because I walked up right as he was hitting and then the whole crowd moved. And Chef was like, look for Cam. And I was like,

cam so small but you know she'll probably be around like a crowd of people that are trying to take pictures with her did you get mobbed or no actually were you like i'm gonna take off my sunglasses why are you people loving me more well there's one girl who my dad and i um y'all i have like loved the whole mask thing because you can like walk down king street nobody says anything bullshit on grocery stores

Well, for a while. Yeah, I mean, that was the worst positive. Oh my God, it's like a concert and shit. I'm like above everyone. Y'all are like, I think it's so random that the show has like these three really tall guys because men in Charleston are not tall. Yeah. Well, that's the number one thing that everyone says. Like, I didn't know you'd be so tall. But no, we had such a great time and thank you, Austin, for getting me those tickets. I'm glad that you enjoyed. This podcast interview was my trade for Austin.

Yeah, which is weird. Why did you take so long? I know. Cam was avoiding. I said, if you can get me these tickets. She said, you owe me or I owe you a favor. And then two days later, I thought of it. Especially with the book selling. I was like, why wouldn't we have like 50 to 75,000 listeners a week? I know. Because she's scarred, Craig, because she thinks that we're going to try to get her. Do you think this is a setup? Like you texted us like five times and I was like, is she excited or anxious?

I texted Craig. I was like, Cameron's going to text us at 8 a.m. and be like, sorry, guys. I think I'm scarred because when I did Shep's podcast, we got in trouble. Yeah, yeah, but that's because Shep talked about... That's because Shep talks about show and... We want to talk about, you know, cats catching fucking snakes. And P's obsession with snakes. Well, y'all need to join his Facebook group because it's fascinating. They have some really good commercials now. The one was like these deaf guys playing basketball and it was called...

what like def jams or something but wait what now facebook has really good commercials right now oh hold on let's go back to paulina okay i think you guys would be best friends no totally all right because she is such like a down to earth she's so much fun and she was just like you know cruising around you know with me um so when i couldn't find you her and i just like you know kind of followed her on dustin

And she's so funny and so normal. And yes, you know, she watches Bravo, which I don't know what that makes her, but, but she, yeah, yeah. She's a mama. She's got what? Two babies. And, you know, she's been together with Justin for ages. And now this interview with her is popping up everywhere of all these things that she said, she was like, you know, playboy offered or something. And, and she said, no, you guys should go back and listen to Justin.

Paulina's kids. In my head, I was like, do people chronologically ever listen to past episodes? Because I think I would just go forward. But it's worth listening to. It's really good. But she's getting married. You know, she talked about why they never got married. Oh, they're not married? No, they were. Just engaged. Oh, okay. And we were sitting here, actually, you know, doing it. And we were just shooting the breeze for a while. She's a lot of fun. Dustin is, too. We miss Dustin. We just haven't gotten to see him in a while. How did they end up doing it?

He missed the cut. No. Yes. So, like, we had all these plans. We're like, yeah, let's do this. Then he missed the cut. And when I saw her, or when I texted her last, she was like, well, I guess we're flying out tonight. Sorry. We'll get it back. How great for Phil, y'all. That was just so incredible. I love it. And were you watching?

Yes! Oh my god. My folks were like clapping in the living room. Phil Mickelson is the highest paid pro golfer. Endorsement-wise, from what I read. Really? Over Tiger?

Well, Tigers doesn't really have that many right now anymore. I don't know. I could be wrong. I thought I read that. Tigers, Tiger. But yeah, Phil, I mean, especially now. You know what? Random sport that, not random. Six-time major winner in the world that Cameron's a huge fan of. Formula One. Yep. What? Yeah. Cam's a huge Formula One fan. Jason and I are big Formula One fans. Okay. Who's your favorite racer? I mean, you're going to say a name and I'm not going to know. I only know this because of when I was at the Grand Prix once, Cam.

Formula One? What are you doing? Yeah, we love Formula One. Let's go to Monica. Probably Kimi Raikkonen. Right? Isn't that the way that happens? Sorry, who is it? Kimi Raikkonen is our driver. Is that a man? We met a guy that owns a team at Bureau. Is that a man? He came up to us for a picture, and I looked him up because he just looked kind of wealthy. I was like, who is this guy? And he owns a Formula One team. I was like, oh, Cameron. Yeah, it's a huge, huge sport internationally. Yeah.

And where it's like, you know, the awesome race at. That's in the country. It is Monica. That's why it's something that Whitney's probably been to. I've been there. Oh, you have? Yeah. With who? No way. That's rad. With the folks. What? Yeah. Like we were in the, like the best thing you could ever do there. Like right over the starting line.

See, we talk about rad shit that I don't, that like, you know, you don't know. You always say about me. Yeah, I guess it was before you. And that's when we went to the Amber Lounge party and, um, uh, who,

Who is dating? Calvin Harris. So only 200 people are allowed in the party. This guy, and they always have a secret DJ that's not announced. And this guy set up and like, they always like, that kind of looks like Calvin Harris. And I'm like, no fucking way. And there's only like 50 people around us. He's right there. And I don't know where he starts out. And he's like, all right, y'all, I'm Calvin Harris. And I was like, this is insane. Like the Kardashians were there. Kanye, everyone. Yeah. Oh God. Can you imagine?

It's definitely, it was pink. I bet he had a pocket square. No, no, no. I mean, well, it's 20 minutes from Monica's. We're there. And so I had been there a lot, but it's definitely a bright picture. You have a picture? Yeah. I was on the track.

We have to post this picture onto the podcast so people can see what you're wearing. And you're probably like an unrecognizable person because back then, that was when Craig was a six. Yes, that's when Craig... I'll give you a six and a half. That's got to be the title, Craig. That's amazing. Yeah, it was really fun. But then Cam texted me and I was like, how do you know Formula One? I was like, I'm not your fan. I'm going to show you my ID from my freshman year in Alabama, Cam.

Y'all have got all this time. In college, you thought I was a six and a half. That's going to stick with me.

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guy he was r.i.p r.i.p and my my art teacher used to always say that to me and and i thought it was so funny but greg look at the that is the frat swoop yeah i know i had that too i like i low-key wanted to be an art like i took art you know lessons my whole life really and and then i just i just quit there's a starting line like the balcony over the starting line

but I knew it was okay well that's not great it's clean is clean shaven you have a gingham red shirt on that's a charleston look used to wear the italian shirt that had the double collar the french cuffs right yes yes oh my god you did yes their shirts were wait do I not have a picture of me on the track style has evolved

from uh whatever that pool club is did you have on white white pants not clean sleep i got so yeah white pants pink button down white pants you've always been a white pant guy yeah still i mean that's what a lot of the clothes i donated last week they were all white pants i was like sorry guys i tried to get jason y'all jason just like i love him but he just does not care about clothes in the least because

Once you get out of scrubs, you don't care. He has a pair of Wrangler jeans from the tractor supply place that he wears. He has a nice pair of jeans. A simple wardrobe. What if you buy him clothes? I do buy him clothes, but then he forgets that I buy them. And then he's back in those damn Wranglers. When we were dating, he had this Ralph Lauren camel hair coat that was really, really nice. He wore it out. I said, oh my God, where'd you get that? He said, at the Goodwill.

Listen, I used to wear some shirts at Goodwill. You find some gems at Goodwill. But I'm going to be donating a lot of my clothes because I cannot wait. Yeah, but don't give them to anyone but me.

Huh? You want to take his hand down? Go through me now. Because instead of going to like Goodwill, like Goodwill, that's a for-profit company. We go right to the homeless people downtown. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They will listen to us. I didn't know this. What's it called again? Do you take women's clothes too? Uplift. Uplift. North Charleston, when we do North Charleston, that's a lot of women. When we do downtown, that's a lot of women.

Craig, I'm going to give you trash bags. Oh my gosh. I take everything that they did with me. I go to the Goodwill once a week. When you go to Goodwill though, sometimes, you know, I'm like, hey guys. And they're like, yeah, yeah. And it's like a dumpster full of trash bags. We're working. So like now, like when I walked down King street, I like know everyone's names and like say, I don't like, I just brought,

like Donnie and Bill this morning, like when I was getting out of rehab, like there are like actual, I mean, can you, but like, can you clarify what you just said? Because you said when I was getting out of rehab, Oh, rehab is a monster drink. It's a rehydration. Sorry. No, I wasn't leaving a bar. There is no way that this rehab,

Craig swears by it. He got me on the show. While you read it, I'm telling you. Craig is drinking a monster rehab drink. I drink them every day. 5% juice. This is not like a Harvard. This does not give you the jitters. There's no sugar or caffeine. There's a tiny bit of caffeine. There's definitely three grams of added sugars. It's basically like the Gatorade without the sugar.

But, so yeah, we've been doing this thing where we have food and clothes for the homeless downtown every Sunday. But we can switch from North Charleston to downtown. We'll bring like a food truck in and, you know, and we was like, so they come pick and they know what they want. I brought Jerry last week and he was like, well, we brought up a shit ton of pillows for him for the street. That's so,

Because they're like, hey, we need jeans 32-32. And I was like, I don't fit in any of my old clothes. And they were my old clothes because I gained like 20 pounds. You look good. So yeah, if you guys have to see, Craig had the game beat. Yeah, he looked so good. I mean, you look like a man now.

You look like a man, Craig. I am. A little better than a six now. You have probably gained since I met you in season four or whatever, you probably gained a solid $25,000.

But it's good. Not like fat. But like you filled out is what had to happen because you were a real thing. And you also look better to me who I have not seen in months because of the pandemic and just, you know, everything. But Shep looks better to me. Shep comes to work out, you know, often. He does. He looks better. You should see him working out. Really? It's the funniest thing he ever talks about.

He's on his phone. They're like, Shep, it's your set. Get in here. And he's like, okay, okay, okay. And then he runs over and he's like, and then he runs back over to his phone. You know who really hates Adderall? The irony is who hates Adderall is Shep. He hates it. Well, because he touched so much as a kid and they'll never touch him. Me too, though. So, like, I can't. I can't do it. It makes me...

I just can't. I can't. It's like a personality killer. Well, Jason was telling me there's like some new drugs for attention deficit disorder that are like less side effects. Not speed. Right. So I loved it for that purpose. I was like, oh, but I like the speed part. But yeah, I get targeted for ads on Instagram where they're like, you know, are you trying to get off? Yeah.

You know, there's these new like medicines I have to look into. But interesting enough, recently people, some kind of high profile people have been reaching out to me saying that me talking about my struggle with it has helped them. Really? Because they're like, because it's a prescribed drug. They're like, this isn't a real problem. Like they know it's a problem and they don't know how to express themselves. It's such a huge problem. And I'm so glad you talked about it.

Yeah, because I used to be irritable as fuck. I didn't have any patience. My personality, my head was always, I was in my own head all the time. And so some people have reached out and been like, hey man, just so you know, I didn't know. It's also something you don't really share. So it's kind of a lonely battle because no one talks about that. But yeah, I don't know. I haven't touched him in two years.

But I still miss it. I mean, it was my favorite. It was my favorite. Oh, my gosh. I just remember days, too, when I'd be with Craig or something, and he would have a flight at 8 a.m., and rather than going to bed, he'd just be up all night, not even doing shit, just sitting there twiddling his thumbs. And then I'd wake up, and I'm like, you got to go to bed. He's like, I haven't been to bed.

like, what is wrong with you? Yeah. Just like, you know, you're pacing or like, I don't know what the hell you were doing. I see.

But like I'd pass out on the couch and then I'd wake up and Craig would be like, all right, can you drive me to the airport? Because the Uber isn't here. I'm like, I'm good. Someone asked me the other day, actually another kind of high profile person I was working with. And this guy, yeah, it was this guy. And he was like, hey, so, and he kind of like cornered me. And he's like, you know, I've been thinking about getting off it. Like I saw your thing. And he was like, are you still as productive? And I was like, well, no, but I'm a lot happier now.

I was like, of course, I'm not that like Superman that can do shit for three days straight. But trust me, I am way happier. And so are the people in my life. See, I know that Jason's literally every day. I mean, it causes a lot of stress in our relationship. He's always like, Cameron, you've got to get on some medication for anxiety. Because my anxiety is like through the roof. And I'm just so terrified of taking prescription medicine. It just scares me.

Like what though? Like a benzo? I don't know. I mean, and I know for so many people, like it's so good and it helps them. And, but then I also have like friends who it has just like ruined. Do you ever think about doing legal edibles? Like legal edibles? Yes. But the problem is. Is it delta E? Yeah, it's delta E. Really? Yeah. I mean, like you can just like, you need a little bit.

I took a hit of my sister's pen the other day. I've had a couple, like the couple of times that I've actually smoked weed. It has done me wrong. Right. Well, it actually makes me more. No, totally. Totally. I don't have anxiety about taking an edible. Cause I'm like, well, I don't want to go through that. Yeah. No, I understand. So my mom. And now everyone's putting in weed. Everyone's putting on. Jason said they see it at the hospital. They're putting on. What's the awful. Yeah.

I don't know why they do it. It's literally killing people. People put that in cocaine because then it adds weight or something to it. It tries to hook you on to an opioid. They want to switch you from coke, which is a party drug, to a dependency drug. They're trying to be good options. A grain of sand of fentanyl can literally kill you. It's so dangerous. I wouldn't say that weed kills people.

but we're not no we does not kill people yeah we know please do not come for me for that i know we that anxiety but that's your anxiety talking no it totally is your anxiety your anxiety too your anxiety too was you you know texting us and being like hey are we on for like tomorrow still and we're like yes cam we're up for tomorrow still because that was your anxiety talk but it's my i mean

So, look, let me tell you, though. My mom was always worried about my brother and I, which, like, you know, reasonably so. But she was always stressed, always stressed to the point where, yeah, it was like it would take over her life. And it came later in life. And so I'm not a big fan. So, like, Adderall is the only prescription drug.

I've taken it. I know I don't have room to talk, but I don't like when people take anti-anxiety or depression medicines and it changes them. So I was a little worried. They gave her this light little thing that you would never know it. And now she can just say, fuck it. Like she's not worried that Christopher and I are in the hospital.

If they're in jail, it's their own damn fault. I'll see them when they get home. You find out what your mom has taken. It didn't change her. Are you worried about Pete all the time? All the time. They gave her this little, it's light. It just allows her to not be consumed with worry about me and Christopher. I am prescribed to Xanax because I never was. Then the show. Do you take it

Yes. Oh my gosh. No, no, no. Like, like, you know, today, no, you know, but sometimes, sometimes, yes, yes. You know, when the show is coming up, I like, you know, split it in half and then sometimes eat, you know, even like in half, like again. And, and, and immediate, like, you know, almost immediately it just takes the edge off a little bit. And I never take like a full. My fear is if I got on something like Xanax, I'd be like, Ooh, I like the way this feels. And then I would want to take it like every day. That's why I'll find out what my mom's thinking.

It's like light and she hasn't had to overdose. But if you don't have, and I hear what everyone is saying, like, you know, my mom is like, Austin, I'm reading these articles about Xanax and I don't want you to get into Benzo. I was like, mom, I take it like, you know, once every three days at like, you know, four or five o'clock at night. It just takes, you know, the, like, and, and, and she's like, well, don't get addicted. You know, and Shep has also said it and he's like, I have a feeling that I would really like it and I'd start taking it. Yeah. I've never taken one because of that.

Well, not that I would get hooked, but I'd be like, if I know I'm leaving Mexico and I'm scared to get on a plane because of the week we just, you know, had, and I can take this pill. It's a godsend for flying. For flying, you're like, just sulk me out for a little bit. Yeah, I used to keep Pixar. When I get on a flight and I have the series, I just play Disney movies. All right, so we're going to take a quick commercial break with Cam, and we'll be right back with Pillows and Beer.

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Speaking of Pixar, have you seen the new one, Soul? I hated it. No, kids should not watch that movie. Why? Because it said, what the message is that death's not real, you can come back from it, you can control, like, that was so much, like, I watched that. We actually had this con, though, with Paulina, and we watched it a little bit when we were all in Aspen together, and she was like, my kids cannot watch this. She was like, we were like, what is going on? It was very trippy. Soul

As a very deep movie. Do you mean it's for kids? I don't think children will understand it or grasp it. I took it as more as like kind of a cartoon for adults. When he was running on that thing away from like Danny, we couldn't get away and it was like a treadmill. And I was like, we watched for 15 minutes. It's all metaphor. Sure. But like, but is that why you're watching an animated film for her?

I mean, I thought The Lion King was a deep movie. I thought The Lion King was way deeper than what a five-year-old's going to grasp or understand. The Lion King scarred the fuck out of me. Pun intended. The scar is a terrible person. Scar is terrible.

- You know, that's funny that you said that. - It scarred me too. I actually don't watch it because I hate that death scene. And I'm like, Scar, you're an asshole. - I never, I watched Lion King one time. - Yeah, me too. - I love Lion King. - And then I fast forward to like, you know, when Simone and Puma come in, 'cause they're amazing and they're just happy, cracking. If we were people, you and I would be like, what's going on? - My friend Timber here because he has a treat coming down the line. He's a tasty spy. You can be a big, big too. - What? That's amazing. Okay, so.

Craig, if you and I were Disney characters, we could be Timon and Pumbaa. Oh my God! Just like, don't worry! We all are super best! For the rest of your days! Who's Timon and who's Pumbaa? Oh boy. Craig, if you were on Adderall, you were Timon. You were Timon on Adderall, for sure. We were doing this with Bert and Ernie the other day, so I called us Bert and Ernie. You were like, which one's Bert and which one's Ernie?

I probably already... Did Burton already get cancelled or something? Or something happened? Austin and I might be cancelled at this point. We're not sure. We don't pay attention. No one's told us yet. We haven't gotten the memo for that, but we think we're not, so we're going to keep on keeping up. No, but I think you should watch Soul again with a more open mind. Well, you know, the funny thing is...

Totally. I mean, the man dies. Okay. Just think about this. Okay. And kind of what their assignments. So what we said to with Paulina, because we did talk about soul. And then I talked about that. There were reported deaths, right? From people like, you know, from kids that would go into the ocean trying to find like, you know,

No, Bikini Bottom. Oh, SpongeBob. SpongeBob. You've got to be kidding me. And so these kids, you know, watch it and they're like, I'm trying to find SpongeBob. So if they watch Soul, then they're like, this is not watching me. We're not watching you. I mean, if they watch Soul, then they're sitting there like, death looks fun. Well, okay, I can, maybe you have a point there. And, you know, kids can't comprehend. Just like P has a plastic snake as her favorite toy. I know. She thinks that snakes probably talk to her and are fun and are neat. Rubber snake.

Where did she get her love from? We took her to the Serpentarium. The Serpentarium? It's like alligators, reptiles. That's good though. I wish I was taught to not be like...

Like skittish. I would rather wrestle a snake than deal with a spider. No, a cockroach in my house. I can't. Oh, cockroach. I actually save cockroaches. I don't even kill them. Because they explode. And I hate the crunching noise. I just can't. It haunts my dreams. Why do you use a cup? I'm teaching Palmer to not hurt any animals. So like if I see even like a tiny little spider, we get a piece of Tupperware and a piece of paper. That's so sweet. I feel worse. That is so sweet. I had to kill a spider last night and I fucking got really upset.

Yes, it was in my current, like it was coming down and it was big and I just never lose it. What? What was it? It was a black spider. And I was about to go to bed and it was in my bedroom and I killed it. And I was just like, God damn it. Why'd you make me kill? Like, I was just like, why did you make me kill you?

But my bedroom is like, I don't like the thought of them in my bed or like biting me. Definitely not. You know, and there's like a statistic that says that in your lifetime, like three or four spiders will be in your mouth and you don't even know. You're like, Jesus. I'll save spiders over cockroaches. Cockroaches are just too quick. And like, if you don't kill them as soon as you see it, they like disappear behind your sheet. Yeah. And then you're like, oh my God. They're everywhere here. I mean, there's no getting around cockroaches in Charleston at all.

weirdly enough, I, I, I've seen like two in this house since I've lived here. So finish. And sometimes I'm like, just go, just, just go away. Cause I can't kill you. Cause I hate it. I hate it. I'm like,

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and anxiety in my life. Do you miss us? And I don't think it's like a high level anxiety. I think it's just kind of a low level that's kind of always there, you know, kind of in your stomach where you're just, you don't know what's going to happen. But then again, maybe that was unique to just our, y'all say you filmed a different show and it was so different. Maybe that was unique to...

I think so. Our show is super stressful. You never know what's going to happen. Like when you show, yeah. Well, I remember like when you're in the limelight and when you're out, like, I feel like as like the attention on you, calm down.

What do you mean by that? Like pictures and people talking to you and like being watched. But yeah, I mean, I don't really go anywhere. I mean, I don't, I don't go out. Like I don't go to the bars. Like I'm not really, I don't put myself in like. Yeah, but like you go to the grocery store, you go to PGA tournament, you go. Yeah, people will say stuff. But I mean, I don't think that's going to change just because like I'm not on the, it's no more, no less. Yeah. No, no. I mean, it's only, yeah.

No way. I was just curious. Yeah. Do you miss us? Yeah. Do you miss us? Yeah, I do miss you. I mean, yeah, of course I miss you. When people ask me about it, I'm like, yeah, that's the stuffy part is I miss, you know, there were certain people on the show that I really enjoyed filming with and that we were, you know, genuine friends. And yeah, I mean, we used to have so much fun.

And I remember you saying that about season like one, two, three was so, and four, I'm going to say four. And like, I had fun too. See, I have. And, and then, you know, it, it just changes. Yeah. And I think part of the reason that I decided it was time for me to leave is when you, when you're married and you're a mom and your life inevitably is like more boring, um,

And you don't really have like a story per se. I feel like that's when it can start to get dicey and like, you know, like they have to come up with something. And I always, my like hard no was I don't want to involve my husband and I don't want to involve my child. And it just, it's like, well, if you're not going to do that, what, what,

And I would kind of tell, I would kind of say that to them. I'm like, why do y'all even want me to do this still? Like, it doesn't make sense. I mean, everyone just loves you. It just doesn't make sense for me to be involved really because I don't, I don't. I mean, it could though, because, because they could come to your house and then the only parties that, you know, you'd have to show up to are like, you know, Patricia's parties or something. Yeah. And then like, people would just love to see you in your home, but at the same time, you know, it's like, you don't have pee. But I just felt, I honestly felt

inauthentic doing it because I just felt like I just don't really fit in this. It doesn't mean that we're not friends.

not friends or anything. It's just like, I don't, I'm not going, like, I'm not. But I will say, like, at Winterhouse, I had a girlfriend at Winterhouse and she wasn't there, so while everyone was dealing with her stuff, like, it was only a month, so it was fine, but I was like, this might be sustainable because Greg's out for everything. It's like, oh, he's not in this drama because he has his girlfriend at home. So I understand the feeling when you're like, guys, I wish I could participate, but this isn't really. Yeah, I just didn't.

And I didn't want to like start acting or like start like attending. I'm excited to be single. Like, I feel like it's not why I'm single now, but filming with like, or just being on TV with a partner is exponentially harder than when you're single. When you're single.

I cannot wait. I mean, I definitely can wait and I'm going to have a lot of fun this summer. So y'all are both single right now, right? And I just like, yes, you know, filming with someone. When was the last time you smashed, Craig? Smashed? Well, I'm just coming out of a relationship. Craig's taking the easy out. I mean, do y'all have like

up that you just know you can call if you just need to smash. 1000%. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, do you have no, I also are different. Yes. I mean, but also that wasn't going to be my like, first thing I do. Yeah, I'm just whatever I'm coming out straight. It's different. Right. Craig's a gentleman. But he's not a gentleman. He's a gentleman. No, not

I am tough. I sell pillows, motherfucker. Oh yeah, that's not on brand for Craig to talk about who he smashes. It drives me crazy. I'm like, Craig, tell me the dirty details. I never gave Austin details. Did you give your girlfriend's details growing up? I thought that the funniest thing was when you and Chelsea were having that talk after the hunting trip and then you're like, alright, Chelsea, tell me. And she was like,

The dust came off that day. I was like, oh my God. I laughed my ass off. It was absolutely hilarious. Speaking of people that I miss, I miss Chelsea. I talked to her earlier today. We're planning a trip. We're going to do a girls weekend. Her birthday is next week.

I want you both to just fucking come back. She's great. I just freaking love her. I know, we're like, we're not even talking about anything, but we're like, Cam, just so you know, we miss you. Yeah, you and Chelsea are coming back next season. Chelsea is just, she's like, she's like the perfect 10 in my eye. I mean, I would divorce Jason and marry him.

Yeah, well, no shit that you would. She is so gorgeous. People want me to get back with Chelsea so bad still. I think you need to challenge yourself to be single. Craig, I'm going to be single. You're definitely a girlfriend guy, which I pick up on. Well, what happens is that I begin to hang out with someone and then I just like to hang out with them so much and all of a sudden, like a month down the road, I'm like, wait, are we dating? I do that on vacations and it drives Austin crazy, but he does it cuter.

Like on vacations, I'll find someone that I like and hang out with them. And I hate that because we go on vacation and then Craig's like, I'm going to go with her for the next, you know, five days. But it's kind of be hard for y'all to like decide for who is wanting to be with you because they don't like you or they're just a Bravo fan. Because every girl that hang out with Craig's like, Austin, open your eyes. I'm like, God damn it, Craig. Can't it just be cool for someone? It happened nine times. Okay, maybe nine times.

And, and I actually had this talk, you know, with Leva and she's like, it's gotta be tough, you know, for you and Craig, like, you know, you're single, you know, obviously it's great. You have this platform. Everyone in this goddamn town knows who you are. People come in town to, you know, and, and I'm like, I don't, I don't want to think like that, but it's true. It's true. I guess. I mean, that's the double-sided. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

You know? Fine, I'll sleep with you because you know who I am. Wait, why didn't you get a camera to find your house? Correct. I guess I did. One of mine I can do with a camera. Okay. We're best friends. You know, Chris does. It is not a big deal. This is actually great. I don't do it on real estate anymore. You don't? I barely do it. Hold on. Did you sell the dome house?

You didn't sell that? I almost didn't. Because I remember like a couple years ago, I went to that house. I posted about it and I was like, you know, Cam is selling this house. And then I know the girls. I know she's dating, you know, the guy that. Well, we just did it because we were just having like a sip with you, but I didn't know you were drinking champagne. Yeah, I was like, I'm going to get Cam to drink a glass of champagne. But.

Actually, my goal was to get a good, old-fashioned Cam laugh out of you. I was like, if she does not do a head-back laugh, then we fail. Everything that we say is funny. Yeah, except today. Apparently. Wait, is Elvis still alive? Elvis died. Craig. God. Craig. Insensitive. Insensitive.

Really? I couldn't imagine that would happen.

Jason does not show like sad emotion. And when we were sitting in the parking lot, this was, you know, during COVID, you have to sit in the parking lot of the vet and you have to call. And Jason was holding Elvis in his lap and they said, okay, why are you here? And Jason had to say, we're here for a euthanization. He could not say it. And he just broke down. It was this, y'all, it was the saddest thing. It was awful. Awful, awful, awful.

We have had the pleasure of meeting Elvis. Let's make him laugh. And Craig. What about Elvis? And Elmo.

Oh my God. We had to put our dog down. Oh my God. Wait, did y'all call the neighbors? We did. So the neighbors, they ended up moving to North Carolina and they asked us if we would formally adopt him. And so we, Jason paid them a dollar to make it legal. He had to live out the best years of his life. Yeah, he lived out his golden years. But did you tell the neighbors that Elvis had passed? Of course we did. We told him before. We said, you know, we're going to have to. I wouldn't

I would never tell him. He's doing great. He's doing great. I'm sending him, like, you know, pictures for you. 36th birthday. Jason had considered having him taxidermied. No. That's amazing. That would have been amazing. But it's illegal to do that. Oh, really? But he knew this guy who said he would do him a solid if he really wanted to have him stuffed. You should have done that. You should have done that. Jason was like, put him on a little stroller.

I literally would have made you bring Elvis here. Palmer can pull him around. And I said, that is not the Christian thing to do. Oh,

- Oh my God. - You just took him everywhere with you? - Cam, if you like went out to lunch, like at Jesus with Elvis. Cam, that is TV show absolutely gold. - You liked it a lot. You liked it a lot. - Oh my God. That would have been the best ever. - They did that on Scrubs. - Did you ever watch Scrubs? - Oh my God. - No. - It was a great show. The doctor on it had his dog in the corner and it was texted every day. - Really? - Yeah. - Oh my God. - I think it's illegal to do that.

That would have been so good. You're like, okay, I'm coming to lunch. I'm bringing Elvis with me. We'll get Austin's house from Elvis. No, we buried Elvis at a proper Christian burial. We buried him under a magnolia tree. And we didn't even put him in a box or anything because Jason wanted his body to nourish the magnolia tree as it grew. I like that. So, yeah. Until there's a hurricane and the bones wash. R.I.P. Jesus. Orbit, friend.

Jesus Christ. I don't know what's wrong with me. Speaking of, do you know how you live? Do y'all have wills? Do you have, like, do you know? Kim, I just bought my first house. I don't have a will. Everybody needs to have a will. Really? Yeah. Do you have any student loans? No. Everybody needs to have a will. Like, do you want to be? Thanks, Mom and Dad. Do you want to be buried? Do you want to be cremated? Who do you want all your money to go to? The will thing is like, the will thing will go to your parents if you don't have a will. Yeah, that's who it should go to at this moment. You're alone.

I officially paid off all my credit card debt. Yeah, but when you have your mortgage, we'll go to your parents too. Okay.

I don't know. His parents listen too. So hey, Miss Wendy, Mr. Tom. Sorry, guys. I don't play on time, Craig. But hey, my mom loves this new house. Like loves it. Where is it? I guess you can't say where it is. Yeah, it's a old house. Okay, yeah. Yeah.

So, okay. Okay. So would you call this neighborhood? What would you call this? Right. You know, there are some nice houses. There's obviously this, you know, so it's like a very hot up and coming area. Okay. And in five years, this is going to be, so where I just moved is like, you know, new build, new build, new build this, you know? So it's like up and up and up. And honestly, I think that,

Like, yeah, I'm going to make some really good money on this house in like three to five years. Do y'all invest in, are y'all in the stock market? Yeah. Craig is, Craig thinks he's like a Warren Buffett in the United States. He's like, I'm in Dogecoin, whatever. No, no, no. I'm obsessed. I'm not in Doge. I'm not. I'm not in Doge. I'm in Ethereum. I'm Ethereum. I like Litecoin though. Litecoin and Ethereum. Except I did lose like 10 grand last week. Oh, okay. That's when I bought.

Last summer. You got to buy the dip. But I did make 10 grand off of George Klein just because. I have not done any of that because last summer it was at like eight, right? And now it's at like 38. And I'm like, holy shit. You got to think long term.

yeah well it's money that i don't need right now so i'm not like trying to like play every day but it was fun for like earlier this month when every time you'd get on your app and it was just like plus two thousand and you were just like oh my god this is the greatest thing i've ever done and then i checked after china made that announcement and i was like where is all my money um but craig just be careful with that corner because that window has broken from doing just what you're doing um

I have a Merrill Lynch lady, right? And she invests in things that I don't even know about. But I use Robinhood. Robinhood is a lot of fun. And I'm like, boom, bam, boom. But you have real investment people, but then it's fun to have your own side. Definitely, definitely. And I think that sometimes I'm like, okay, I only have like six or so grand in there.

And I play around with it. And then it just dipped so hard in the past. It's okay. Like three months. I know, but I had this one, I bought it at 19. It went up to 145.

And now it's down to like, you know, so I'm making money on it. You did. You got to pay tax more taxes. Right. So I, I, I just haven't touched it. Is that what you're doing these days? Are you like, you know, really getting into just like throwing money at the market? Kim, what do you do with your days? You know, these days? Yeah. I mean, you're, you are a mother. So like that answers, you know, that question would be our driver. Yes.

That is how I will show up on the next season of Southern Trump. That would be epic. I'll pull up and I'll roll the window down and I'll just wave. That would be amazing. You know we bought a limo. Yes, I'm aware you bought a limo. We haven't used it yet. That thing looks like it smells. No, no, no, it doesn't. It's great. But we haven't used it, so I guess it's not great. Do you have to have a special license to drive a limo? We have gone down this path many times. And I don't really answer it.

the answer is kind of no, though. You don't need like a chauffeur's license. Why did y'all buy a lemon? Y'all split the cost? Because, yeah, because... Okay, Cam, what should the license plate be? I was thinking... I was thinking E-Z money. Just be obnoxious and gaudy as hell. Easy money. I like it. Um...

I'll think of it. You know who's really good at coming up with stuff like that is Jason. He has a list of boat names on his boat. Oh, that's amazing. Okay, what's his top boat name? Well, he really loves Chilligan's Island. Chilligan's Island? Okay. Maybe it's actually really, really funny because I just laughed.

Would you ever run a business with us? Like at least start with me?

brewery bar for Austin downtown? I would invest. A little bit. I would invest. And so you could show up and yell at us. We're just going to yell at this morning. Where's my money? See, that would be funny, right? I'll be an investor if you make me a wheat beer. Love that. Okay. You heard it here first. Yeah. Cam, I think that we do that. And that is your storyline. And then you become like my de facto boss. Cam's like, where's my money, Austin? Where is my money? And what is it doing? You see, IPA is a pill to men. You really need to have

do a beer that appeals. You need to do a fruity wheat beer that appeals to women. You think that the wheat beer is the way to go? 100%. I'm telling you. What should I call it? That's something else that you're going to have to think about. I'll think about it. Cam, if you invest, then you can do the beer. Fine. You won't let anyone invest. I've been trying to give you money for six months. That's not true. I just sit down and yell, Jerry, and listen.

Craig, you just sell pillows. Yeah, I just keep doing pillows. Yeah, yeah. You just sell pillows. That's a question I would try. And then we'll take over the world eventually. We know business. We just did a deal this morning. Anyway.

I would like to know. No, no, no. I would like to know what Cam's going to do with my beer. This is going to be awesome. I've got some deals in the works too, boys. I bet you do. How do you fix this then? The condemned house next door, if you buy this, what do you do? You strip it to what? You have to go to the bar. And it is a pain in the, you know what? Money? I think that you have to lift up this house. I think that's what the city of Charleston is saying, that you have to lift it. Do you have a question for us?

Do I have questions for you? You're tough because we're like, we've never, like, we've never, like, we're pretty open-minded with everyone that we have because we respect, like, we respect all our guests, but, like, with Cam, we're just like,

for some reason you put some weird pressure that you're here what do you mean what have you been having a conversation this whole time what what what do you want me to talk about like nothing nothing i just maybe you make us nervous no of what are you nervous are you nervous i can't i know why this is adorable is it because i called you a six and a half craig i would rate you now oh shit oh shit oh shit i'm gonna

I don't want to know because I don't want to know what I know either. Let's get a scale going then. If the hottest man in the world is Henry Cavill, he's a 10. What about Superman? Henry Cavill is a beautiful man. Yeah, he's Superman. If Henry Cavill is a 10... I thought it was Cable.

Cable? I don't know. Oh, that's what I say. I would say Craig. Oh my God. That is mean because he is a handsome, beautiful carved out of fucking, you know, marble man. Wow.

And who's just like a total mutant? Who's somebody that's like just terrible? Who's a mutant? Okay, okay. You know, Sloth from the Goonies. Sloth from the Goonies. If Sloth is a one and Henry Cavill is a ten, Craig...

Oh, my God. Craig's so nervous. He's like, well, everyone should get. Yeah, I don't know. I don't want to know mine. I would say Craig is going to hold yourself out. I would say, yeah, I'm a 12th. I would say Craig's a 9.2. Damn. That is a pizza score. That's a hell of a pizza score. People eat at 9.2s.

All the time. For Cam, when I came back from the Bahamas, I think you were like, okay, you filled out. Cam's crush on Craig has not subsided. Let's just make one thing clear. I do not have a crush on Craig. Can we just keep... I... I can appreciate... Damn! Henry Cable's a 10. Craig's a 9, too.

I mean... Greg, this is what we talked about yesterday. Accepting compliments and just saying thank you. And now Craig is rubbing his eyes. He's rubbing his eyes, but we literally podcasted about this where I don't know how to take compliments anymore. So I'm just like, anyways, let's... And then I change the subject. And then it makes a person feel weird who gave you the compliment, right? If they're like, you look good today. And then I'm like, what are you doing this weekend? And they're like, accept the compliment. Yeah, I think I'm...

I think I'm scarred. - I know. - But so it's challenges to now say like, if someone's like, oh, you're getting bigger, you're filling out. - Or something, anything. - You say, oh, I appreciate that. - Thank you. And Craig was over here just rubbing his eyes like, as Kane was calling a nine two. - No, it was when, yeah, whatever. - He's rubbing his eye again. He just can't help it. - Oh, Craig. - I get it, I get it. I get it, dude. - Oh, Craig. - That would happen to me too. I'd be like, I'm gonna hide under the table.

That's amazing. Okay. So I only have, I just went through like the book doesn't talk about the show at all, but I talked about our first like lunch at Brutus on with me and chef. I talked about that in my book too. We need to read at each other. I said, when I first, when I met y'all, you should have brought us sign books. I can't believe you did.

Well, sorry. When I met y'all at that... Was it a lunch or a dinner we had? I can't remember. He was asking. I think it was like a 3 o'clock thing. Yeah. I remember...

I said, I remember thinking, okay, I think this show will be a success when I met the two of them. Really? Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. You like had a good feeling. I had a good feeling and I came home and I told Jason, cause I was on the fence about whether to do it or not. And I was like, well, I want to go meet them. And you're like, these guys are, are unique and different, right? That's, that's, that's really cool. Um, did you talk to Whitney? Yeah.

Did I what? Did you tell that to Whitney? I don't remember. Y'all, let's talk about Whitney. Hold on, hold on. Too awesome. This is Shep's book. We've become very close friends to the point where you're definitely higher on the totem pole than Craig at the moment. He's really pissing me off these days. Things could change, though. That's perfect. Love Shep. Love. That's the sign of love. I have not read it. I feel like a terrible friend. Why? You shouldn't fucking read it.

Okay, well, he put a picture of me in here and we are just absolutely faded at home team in Germany.

They're making me do it. Sullivan's. We were next level. It's not his, his Polish name. Yeah. Oh my God. The vagina. Oh, I'm in there. And it says me and Austin feeling no pain in Sullivan's eye. I just, I just asked someone like before. Yeah. And he, you know, just called me and said, Hey man, sorry, but you know, Hold on.

I monogrammed our kitchen aprons for us. That was when I just got my son. Look at our kitchen apron. This is right before the infamous Southern Charms scene where we try to cook ribs. Craig Potency knows what he's doing. It becomes a disaster, but it all worked out in the end. We had lots of laughs. I hope the audience did too.

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Whitney is one of my, I think he's my favorite person. I talk to Whitney pretty much every day of the month. Yeah.

I talked to him yesterday. Let's like really talk about it. I would go that he's not the best influence on you, but you've always known that. Like I've always hated when he got involved. Why do you think he's not? Because you were going to go skiing when I was in Colorado and then Whitney goes, don't go skiing. You're going to break your arm and won't be able to hold your baby. And you're like, okay, I'm not going skiing. And I'd be like. And then you and Whitney left early. You guys bitched about that bus for ages and it's all Whitney. It's all Whitney. Well, no. Let's just hold up.

I will defend myself about that bus till the day I die. That was, well, let's just go. It was a very nice bus. A thousand percent. I used to live in Colorado and I have made the drive from DIA International Airport to

to see him before. And I know what it is like coming down that mountain. Okay. Now let's talk about when we got there and you and Whitney left a day early. If Whitney wasn't there, you would have stayed the whole time. Definitely.

1,000%. We found a direct flight, first class seats for like 150 bucks. Yeah, but you would have stayed at, we always thought that you would have stayed if it wasn't for Whitney. So that's why I'm always pissing off on Whitney. I would be like, Kim, fuck this, let's leave. And I'd be like, no, we want to hang out with Kim. Like, fuck you, Whitney. You know who's Whitney's best friend these days? Like, his white hair and man. His dirty dog. Do you know Don? Yes. Yeah.

It is his right hand man. Don, is it me? They went to dinner at Paul's last night with a bunch of college girls. How can you not like Don? I do like Don. I know. Him and I, him and I were like attached to him.

Him and I were attached to the hip last week. And for those that don't know who Don is, Don was dating Eliza. It was an iconic scene. He crashed into the fence wearing jeans. I mean, it's like, that is a South Carolina redneck if I ever have met her. He still has heavy equipment. He's amazing. I love Don. We went to Patricia's other day and she's like, yeah. And she told us that and it was just

funny. And I love John. And I love Whitney. That's what we were talking about. I love Whitney. I literally was hanging out with Whitney every single day. We had the exact same thing. We found the exact same thing funny. The vagina cake was the most disturbing thing I've ever seen. That's like

And you guys love it. Oh, yeah. Look, Whitney's jokes should just tell it. Like, Whitney is sick and twisted. He's so sick and twisted. I mean, if people saw the stuff we send each other, it would not be good. He sent me a meme the other day. I have to find it and I have to read it. Because this is so Whitney, right? Yeah, whatever. Should we...

Okay. So it's like a walking dead thing. Okay. And it says, why don't girls from Alabama do reverse cowgirl during sex? It's just because you never turn your back on family. No, it's not. That's not it.

That's why I read it, right? It's not like they're talking about sucking Satan's cock, which is Whitney's M-O. Can y'all say that word on your podcast? Satan. Well, we produce our podcast. We throw F-bombs. You do? Because we don't answer to anyone. That's what's great. That's what's different about this is that everything's in-house. Nick, our producer, he's traveling right now, but it's Nick, Jerry, me, and Austin. That's the only people involved in our podcast. Hmm.

We don't pay anyone. What company does it go through? It doesn't. And that's why it's so much better. Right. Because when Shep did it, you know, Shep had like an answer to podcast one and they were like, Hey, Hey, Hey. And we might 15% and stuff. We just do what we want.

And so that's why we can edit it. It's all in-house. So it's not like someone else and being like, nope, that's too good. We're going to leave it in. It's like, we have to find a way. Yeah. So, so if you leave and think about something just like, you know, Texas and like, Hey, I remember that, you know, we sent this, can you take out this part, take out this part and we can send it to you first. If you know, you want to like, Hey, we're about to post this, but if you want to listen to it first.

which is nice. And so I like want you to like, you know, let it fly, right? Because in that letting it fly, maybe you're like, can you take out that, you know, 30 seconds for the first like, you know, 15 seconds of you letting it fly could be really funny. Do you think if I had a, when we start filming again, if I had a big party at the store, do you think you would make a good guess? So here's the thing. She'll drive us there. Somebody asked me this question not long ago and I answered it. And then someone wrote an article and the headline was

- Craig brought it up today. - You said something like, you know, you might see me around. - Or something. - I don't even know what I said, but. - You're not gonna be a character, but you still live in Charleston and you might show up to a fucking event. - I don't know. - You should.

Why though? But how does that? We'll read out the things that you don't like and then we'll film funny shit with us. What is that? What is that? Why would we be doing that? Like a little relevancy for like your Instagram stuff.

I don't think she needs any relevancy. I just think that you could film with Patricia and Whitney and go there and be like, guys, I'll... I am saying the scene. I think that you should go and film with them and be like, I'm not going to go to those party guys. Now, I think that you should come on... That was the dumb decision on their part. Easily avoid it and then we would all be happy family.

God damn it. Do people approach you like other... Oh, she's got stuff in the works, man. Look at her. She's biting her straw. Oh my God, I just saw that from a mile away. That's why she's like, I don't need relevancy. She is about to start filming some other shit. You're the best, though. Everyone loves you. And she knows it. Well, we won't press on it, but yeah, everyone loves you. Guys, what I just saw Cam do in four seconds, I just knew it a thousand percent as soon as Craig said it. She's like, well...

She's biting that. That freaking Chick-fil-A straw is bitten down. By the way, these are the worst Chick-fil-A straws. I would never put down Chick-fil-A for any reason, but this is what I don't understand about the whole plastic thing. Oh, look at that topic change. We just have to go over this, probably, because this is really, it's on my nerves. This is not the problem. This is the problem. Like, the big... She just grabbed the top. You just, you can't, like, be so worried about the

Then you do the drink. The drink's plastic. The lid's plastic. No, the drink is cardboard. Yeah, but the lid's plastic. Yeah, but some places, they just are all about the paper straw, but then everything else is plastic. Right. But I don't see a turtle, and why do we always say turtles? It hasn't that been debunked about the turtle that this is actually worse? I don't know. The amount of

in the ocean. This is what happened, guys. The lobbyists for the company that made the straws weren't as powerful as the lobbyists for the company that made the lids. And so the lids still exist as plastic lids in a plastic helmet. Craig is wearing his tinfoil helmet right now talking about how stuff works. Have y'all watched Sea

Because I got through about 10 minutes and I saw all the fucking dolphins getting their heads cut off. And I was like, Nope, I can't watch it. Nope. I even fast forwarded. And then there were shark fins getting cut off. And I was like, I can't watch it. I'm like, I love, I could never be a vegan. I can never be a vegetarian. I'm too each their own, whatever. But so I watched that octopus t-shirt and I know that's not really.

I watched Octopus Teacher after you did it. I texted you after that. I watched the Octopus Teacher. I thought it was the dumbest thing I've ever seen. And Karen was boasting, like, crying about it. I was like, oh, my gosh. People feel either one or two ways. They either just like you. They say this was so ridiculous. I cannot believe you cried. I just don't get it. It's weird. It's like, oh, my gosh. And then other people like it.

You know, connected to it. Tell me why you're connected to it. Because it's a smart being. Oh, here we go. It's a smart being. It is a smart being. I am the lowest. Oh, you're talking about the octopus. I was like, are you putting me down because I don't like this movie? Okay. Can you change color?

Well, I think they're extraterrestrial. I think they're alien. I truly do. Let's put our hats on together. Tell me why you love or why the movie spoke to you. I know how she thinks octopi are aliens. I think they're an alien life form. I do not think that I think they're an alien life form. And what? You know what? I love it.

I'm fasting. I am listening. Like when Spencer Pratt talks, I sit there and listen. When Cam talks about aliens, I sit here and listen. It's not just me that believes this. Google, you will see. I want to hear it from you. Tell us about it. I just, I think they're, they do things that are unexplainable. They can't explain. They can figure how to unlock locks. I mean, it's crazy. Yeah. Have you ever watched Finding Dory? Yeah, that octopus is smart as hell.

Is he? Oh my gosh. He like, you know, unlocks doors and he's like, yeah, he's basically like walking around like a human. Yeah, that's what Oxfam did. And y'all saw the clip of the UFO that went underneath the water recently. She's picking them up. What? Yeah. They just released it. What? Yes. There is a video released. Confirmed by the Navy.

And it makes it actually, there's white caps in the water. So I don't want to eat aliens or you just have a connection to the house. I love calamari though. I love calamari too, but not anymore. After you watch that movie, you will see octopus. And it's like eating a dog. It's like eating a dog. Is it UFO sighting in Argentina? And it's taken UFO.

You know what? UFO in the ocean? You know why I feel like a hypocrite about that, though? Because cows are really smart, too. But I know they're bred for it. When you're San Diego. I love snakes. But it is sad. Because cows are... I follow cute cows on Instagram. Wait, what, Craig? I follow cute cows on Instagram. Wasn't there another one called Cowspiracy or something? I can't watch any of the Cowspiracy cows. You'll end up not eating anything if you watch all these movies. Craig?

My Octopus teacher was good, though. I watched that in school. I thought it was beautiful, and I liked that. That's why you're a 9.2 in my eyes. That's why you're a 9.2. It splashed. It literally made a... I didn't watch for a while. Wait, this thing is moving around. There you go.

Look at this little... Look at this thing. It's moving around. SDS tinfoil hats. I think in our lifetime, we are going to be made aware that there are indeed... Oh, yeah. The pilots love that. ETs. They're just letting us...

came, I would go. I would go. I would go. She's saying this with conviction. You would take your family and be like, take us. I would go, yes. I think that this planet is one of the lesser places to be, honestly. That's why we haven't been made aware of warp speed yet. It's because we haven't gotten to that point.

You mean that pillows and beer is a lesser form? I think we are like the lowest of the low humans. Do you watch Star Trek? They probably circle us. Don't have to read warp speed technology before you're made aware of other planets. Pretty much. So they're basically like, look at this pathetic planet. We're going to leave them alone and let them destroy each other. And a lot of people believe the reason that they are always... Let's dial in Spencer. These sightings

No, these sightings are always around, you know, nuclear sites. It's because they know we are stupid enough to potentially blow ourselves up with this technology and that we are not evolved enough as a species to have this technology and it could ultimately be the end of our planet.

See, I love it because I'm easily persuaded. I'm into it. And you're talking to me. And I'm like, okay, done. I'm going to. I just texted Spencer. I'm going to seriously. I'm real quick. You know, like, you know, the coolest thing. Let me just go back.

What if you're scared of rides? I don't like roller coasters. But they have anti-gravity in it. Of course. I wouldn't get sick on a spaceship. Did y'all listen to the recent Joe Rogan podcast that he had? I actually don't listen to Joe Rogan, but I should. What are you going to say to that guy? I'm on the spaceship. You said I would go. Spencer's calling you right now. This is amazing. Spencer Pratt.

Yo, yo, yo. I'm here with Cameron Eubanks and Austin and myself. We're talking about aliens. We're talking about aliens. Cameron said if they came and asked her to go, that she would go in a heartbeat. Would you go too? She wouldn't even remember. She probably went. Usually when people have that type of opinion, that means they've already gone and they've already been, you know, they've already been back. Once you're that, like, accepting, it's usually the peeps that have already gone.

Spencer, I am having a visceral reaction right now because I... Yeah, dude, she's having like, she's nodding her head and like shaking, like scratching. He's so right. I cannot believe I'm agreeing with him, but he is absolutely correct. So like you've probably been. I think I've been. Yes. And so now you know that this place is not for you and you and your family should be there. Spencer, don't you think that our planet is like one of the lower, like we're like the lowest of the low here?

Oh, 120 billion percent. This is so... I mean, it's like Heidi has crazy dreams that she's, like, convinced aren't dreams. So if you have dreams about, like, your alien experiences, that's, like, that happened. You know what I mean? Yeah, I do. So you have dreams, Kim? Yeah. And what are they like? I just...

That's great.

alien or whatever they were like pulling his legs like out of the bed like he's like no i will not go with you and like and then it stopped or whatever like so you know that i would just imagine there's different entities but see spencer i i think some of these entities they're not really into me they're not really technically entities they might just be certain forms of consciousness

I mean, from another dimension, though. Right. So it could be, like, your... You in another dimension's consciousness. Yes. Like a connection. But, yeah, no, I feel like I've definitely already been wherever. Because, like, there's...

I know for a fact, like, my brain has been deleted. Like, I'm, like, one of those people that, for the amount of experiences I have, like, I don't remember so much. Heidi's like, what happened? It's like you have amnesia. So I think they, like, straight erased my brain on one of the trips. Oh, my gosh. I mean, it makes sense, though. I'm into it. My memory has been deleted. Do you follow Dr. Stephen Greer, Spencer? Yeah.

I try not to read or listen to anything about aliens because I try to stay on this planet emotionally and energetically as much as possible. I don't think I've been tapped into that world in at least 10 years because it's like, I got to focus on the bills and taxes. The earthly things. Heidi, you want to talk aliens? No.

We're drinking champagne for you. Get a bottle of champagne, Spencer. Hey, Heidi. Hey, Heidi. What's going on?

We have Cameron. I'm Southern Charm girlfriend. Oh, well, we're sitting here and we're talking about aliens and Craig and Austin said, well, we have to call Spencer because he's in deep. Yeah, he knows all about the aliens. Well, Cam was just saying that she thinks, you know, she had been there. Well, Spencer's theory of being there. I was just saying, if they came, if they came, I would go. And they asked if we would go with them, I would say bye. Peace out, Earth. I would go.

Wow. So Heidi says that she would not go. But Spence, here we go. Wow.

Oh my gosh, it would not bring you back. Only the lightning. I think the lightning don't hate you. I think they ascend astral travel and I think the aliens, those ones, the greys, are the bad ones that dissect you and eat you. I would go with the tall whites. So you have a type. Okay, we get it. Cam's got her alien type. No.

What is it? Like, like, what's your type? Oh, Heidi doesn't have a type because she doesn't. What does this all white? They have different alien. Yeah. I'm not into that. I'm purely human at this point. Well, we love you guys so much. I love that you got caught on because Cam was telling us about this and I was like, we got to call Spencer and Heidi. And then everything that you guys said, Cameron like knew exactly what you guys were talking about.

So great. Do they say if you have the dream where they keep coming for you, that that is real? Yeah, and then they just like it. I've had the dream. All right, well, we love you guys. Let's get you... Are you guys podcasting or are you just talking to each other? Yes. No, we're podcasting. Yeah, yeah, no, we're podcasting. And everyone loves you guys. Why don't you guys do a spin-off and talk Cameron into being on the spin-off? Oh, that would be a good idea. That's up to Cam, though. Okay. She's got her own...

I don't know. Yeah, right. Cam has like six projects in the works. Spencer said, are you done with reality TV? I'm going to go with yes. But she's not done with TV, I don't think, but she's not telling us. What if it's your show where you can edit it like Kristen Cavallari and then you can do whatever you want and then you don't like it when you just fire them off your show? That just seems like a lot of work. Well, because then her whole family would have to be on it and I don't think she wants to do that.

All right. Well, we miss your content. Well, sweet. Let us know when y'all come to Charleston. Yeah. Let us know when you guys come to Charleston. We'll have a great big dinner. See you guys. Love y'all. Bye.

That was amazing. That was amazing. I just love that. He is very convinced. Totally. He is. You should listen to our podcast. You should listen to our podcast with him. Okay. He is like, yeah, he's like, I've already been taken. You guys, have you ever seen it? Or how many UFOs have you seen? And I was like, probably like three. And he's like, how long did they follow you? And I was like, what do you mean? He's like, mine follows me all the time. Like follows me around. And like you would like, and then.

It's amazing. It was just funny. He was like, you would go. And he goes, I'll bring you back. Yeah. I think you wouldn't want to come back. No, no, no. I think if they let you keep your conscious, then you would stay. See, I do not believe in harmful aliens. No, I don't think so. We're the harmful ones. Yeah. We're the only ones killing each other. Yeah.

All right. Well, guys, we love our sister Cameron. It's been so much fun. I can't wait to do it again. We just did that. Cam, don't be sarcastic. You loved it. You got to hang out with us. This has been so much fun. Next time we'll have like a chicken nugget platter for you. I want a chicken nugget platter. Now I have to go sit in carpool one. It was terrible, by the way. I didn't know that was a thing until I got stuck on the streets in Charleston. Mom's drink.

during like the tailgate for carpool. So that they do the carpool for you. No, I know. I know you're a great mom. You are. Do it all. Author, mother, vision, superstar, alien. Thanks. We're going to get Jason on here next. All right, guys. Well, we're going to take a quick break. We love Cameron and we'll see you guys when we get back.

If you're confused to some of the audio disruption earlier, we discovered that some of Cameron and myself's audio has been corrupted and we apologize to all of y'all. We love you and we'll do better.

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