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Something that I saw a time or two ago that we podcasted about, Craig,

or when we podcasted and I thought was a great question, but you and I were just cruising. We were just talking about this, that, and everything. I always talk to you about Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul and how they have a Mezcal brand. And I think it's so awesome because they're very clearly just like great friends. And for those out there that don't know Bryan Cranston, Aaron Paul from Breaking Bad, I love their friendship. And

And when they post, I'm like, I want to party with you guys or like, you know, drink some mezcal with you guys. And I just saw that they bartended at Drake's birthday party. And so it made me think, who would I want to bartend at my birthday party? And I'm interested to hear what both of you would say. I mean, Brandon Cranston and Aaron Paul is a pretty good answer for me, but...

Yeah, what's funny is, like, I have no desire to meet them or hang out with them or anything. Like, I just, I mean, I would say hi. Like, I'm sure they're, like, cool and great. But, like, I'd be like, hey, my friend really loves you guys. Well, no, I wouldn't say that. I'd be like, hey, it's not, you know, nice to meet you. But I just, they don't do it for me. You didn't watch Breaking Bad? I did, and I hated it.

Did you watch Malcolm in the Middle as a kid? Breaking Bad was the biggest waste of time that I've ever done in my life. Why? I hated it. Why are you such a hater right now? Because it was a show that was made to never give viewers what they wanted. And so what's the point to watch? What does that mean? Everything that I ever wanted to happen didn't happen. And the opposite would happen.

and it was stressful it was stressful it was it just was never enjoyable but it hooks you and then you get in like you know four seasons and you're like why why am I doing this and then I watched till the end I don't know which I hated more uh Breaking Bad or the show where everyone dies and it's about like

Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad on Craig's like nil list. Yeah. Well, this, this tracks Breaking Bad. That is a hot take, by the way. No, no, no. That is a fucking hot steaming piping. Craig just comes out the gate and he says, cool. I hate those guys and I hate your show and I hate everything that you like, Austin. So fuck off.

Craig coming in hot with, uh, so those are widely regarded as two of the greatest television shows of all time, you know, and that's not saying that you have to like it, you know, and that's why I love you.

Game of Thrones tracks, because we've talked about this forever, where we know that you do not like shows that end with the main characters and things dying, right? And Game of Thrones was one of those shows where you never knew. No main character was ever safe, right? And you're like, oh man, I love him. Boom, dead. You're like, what the...

I just got real. And so it frustrated a lot of people, but I, but, but I can definitely see Craig watching like, like the red wedding, Nick and being like, okay, I'm done. I'm done with this show. When I stopped watching the show. Yeah. We've talked about it. The red wedding was, I didn't watch the show again until the finale. And so I went from the red wedding to the finale. Okay. So what about breaking bad though? Because breaking bad just was.

And I agree with you. Both shows were done incredibly to achieve a purpose that I that doesn't match why I watch TV. But I understand that they were like they were incredible. Like you can't make them better. They just were not for me. OK, so I just wanted to know, Craig, if you could have two guest bartenders at your, let's say, 40th birthday, you know, in five years, who would be?

it be i'm gonna tell you yeah and also nick this is for you as well and and for me well nick first if you want well i i'm gonna name three i know one of austin's oh okay who matthew mcconaughey dude i would get mcconaughey yeah man okay thank you for that that'd be that'd be real cool

uh be real cool that's because sarah said that you you got mad that she gave you dax shepherd and i was like no well dax is cool as yeah but i am just like a stan of matthew mcconaughey that's why i mean because i i just read his book a lot and i was even honestly though i mean i was messing around with sarah i was like it's not dax i i i love his podcast actually

I don't listen to many podcasts, but when I'm driving, I actually put on the armchair expert a few times. But Matthew McConaughey, to me, and like his life and the way that he wrote the book, I was like, all right, all right, all right. So who's your second one? Wait, but wouldn't you agree that he matches more a Shep character if someone was actually playing us?

Who? Dax with Max? Matthew McConaughey, I think, matches Shep way more than either one of us. Like a stoner, surfer, like... And the look kind of even. You gotta remember, like,

Yeah, it's based off the characters he's played. I'm sure you guys would get along wonderfully, but anyway. Okay, so we've gotten the Breaking Bad guys, the guy playing Shep in the next biopic on Southern Charm. I think Will Ferrell would be one of mine. Yeah, he would not be one of mine. Who? He just seems like a super just fun guy. He just seems like super down to earth if you would meet him and he would do something like that. I see him doing something like that, though.

Is it really lame to say Bill Murray? I mean, because I know that that's, you know, what he like, he's done that a few times or like he just jumped right there. Well, just, just cause it's like a cliche answer. Okay. Matthew McConaughey and Bill Murray. Cause I feel like they'd be friends back there and they'd be a hell of a time. Okay. That would be a fun party. Yes. I like what you do, Craig. You said you got three. Yeah. I'm going to go with a little Wayne and Ryan Reynolds. Okay.

And Jennifer Lawrence. - Jennifer Lawrence. - I was gonna go Ryan Reynolds too. - Just because we virtually know each other now. - Craig had a second of screen time with J Law and their connection. - And so I'm just, this is my like return compliment of being like, I think she would be fun to have at your birthday party and her Ryan Reynolds and little Wayne hanging would just, I think that's a good batch of energy.

I'm doing Will Ferrell and Shaq. Jack would be DJing. Oh, dude. Diesel on the ones and twos. I think that in spirit of what Craig just said with J-Law, that I would add Jon Hamm to mine because I feel like he would have a lot of fun back there too because of that time that he was on Watch What Happens, Craig, and he said that he watches Charm. I think that's awesome. Oh, yeah. I was going to say, where are you going?

Yeah, I think that the three of them would all get along and would have a lot of fun. And then my... Just like in my fantasy world, they're all best friends and they're all just so excited to be bartending for my birthday. Okay. Well, that's fun. I'm glad I now have this expectation of my birthday party. Yeah. I'm like, oh boy, I got my work cut out. You got five years figured out, Austin. 40th. You and Paige. Holy moly. Yeah.

Getting little Wayne to freaking perform in right above it, like as, you know, like the walkout song. Yeah, that'd be cool. That would be cool. And then, like, would you want him to bartend your birthday or would you want him to be in your section hanging with you? Well, yeah. I mean, I obviously want to hang with all of them, but they were just like –

Yeah, I'm not going to get any satisfaction of them being the bartenders. Oh, I guess you're right. I would, man, because it would give your guests a whole bunch of satisfaction. And I'm sure at some point that you'd get that. But yes, you're going to end up hanging with them. Right. Hopefully. Right. They're not actually back there like, I need glassware now. Now, where's my ice?

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Get your first month free at greenlight.com slash pod. Greenlight.com slash pod. Speaking of birthday parties, it's funny. Anyway, it's funny that Nick brought this up on his outline, but, you know, like Leonardo DiCaprio, like you guys can talk about whatever happened with him, but he's with...

I'm just going to be the guy that says it. He's with a 25-year-old girl. Like, that's entirely too young. It just is. How old is he? Like, I would feel uncomfortable going under 25 right now. Well, I think that's like the oldest person he's dated, right? Is 25? Yeah, well, that's his thing. Well, I get that, but... His thing doesn't mean that it's not like a little weird. Leonardo. How old? I bet he's 40, 40... I think he's in his 50s. No. No.

Sure. I feel like he's been around for a long time. I'm not sure whatsoever. Otherwise, I would. He's 48. 48. Okay. I thought he was like 51, 52. So, yeah. I mean, he's getting there. So that's like Austin. He's almost doubling. Austin and I dating a two-year-old. That's what it is. Holy moly. Okay. Well, Craig set us up for this because he didn't want to.

he didn't want to say it, but there is a picture of Leo's new girlfriend with her hand down the back of his pants. And I'm talking like nice and deep like. And for all the things that have come out about Leo's sexual proclivities, right? Like where he wears headphones during sex and he like vapes during sex.

And this this almost doesn't shock me that he's like, I need all sorts of weird ways to get my rocks off. Well, and if he likes it, then it's just fun for her to do because she's like smirking and laughing. She's like, you know, like it's her way of being like naughty in public.

It's like, it's her way of being like, no way is this happening? She's like, I'm dating Leo. And the story is in the record books for the rest of my life. I just, the fact that I love how Nick wrote one good for him.

The fact that there's a picture is just infuriating, though. Like, there's... I mean, I went on a rage in my house the other day, which happens, you know, every once in a while, especially if I accidentally turn on the news. And the fact that there were 30 reporters around... around...

The guy that played Chandler. Sorry. You know, I forget names. Matthew Perry. Matthew Perry. The fact that there are 30 reporters around his house or they're not reporters. They call themselves reporters, photographers taking pictures of his parents when they arrived. Like you should all be.

And not for real shot, but you should like, you should really look in the mirror and evaluate your lives and never like, like you're the worst people. If you're standing outside of that guy's house that just died, taking pictures of his parents, and then you use the excuse. Well, like we're just reporting what happened. No, you're not. No, you're not at all. Like you could easily just write that he passed away. You are, you are a salacious piece of shit.

I mean, there really is a reason why all of these celebrities have to put out some sort of quote or statement being like the family asks for privacy during this time. And it's like,

And you do the exact opposite. You're like, in fact, we're going to shove 30 cameras in your face and make this a walking nightmare. I mean, what type of person does it take to do that? Like you have, you're, you're, you're just a piece of shit. Like, and you can be like, that's just my job. No, you're choosing to do that. Like you are a piece of shit. If you, if you're outside a celebrity's house that just died and you're taking pictures of his parents, you're,

you're a piece of shit and like i'm sick of people giving people passes there's zero accountability in our country anymore and like there should be accountability for that and like and of course people be like what they chose to be a celebrity doesn't mean you're not a piece of shit does not i mean you you know that we have heard that before well you know you chose to you're like i

I chose to have you not give me any privacy. I didn't choose that. Of like someone's death and like the worst day of their lives and someone's taking pictures. So anyway, on not that extreme of a note, this guy's just getting his butt tickled and...

Like someone pulled out their phone and started taking pictures. Like, I mean, and, but if you're doing it outside and you're the level of celebrity that Leo is like, you gotta know that that's going to happen. Like, do you think that he was like, go ahead? I dare you. I dare you to post this. I don't care. He's like, show all the freaks out there that I'm a freak and you're only helping me. Like,

I wonder if he woke up and his publicist was like, Leo, and he's like, whatever. Or if he was like, shit. I don't think that... Well, yeah. No, I mean, you can tell in her face. Like, she's not pumped to see the camera, but oh well. Oh my God. Yeah, I mean, having that level of paparazzi in your life would just be... Would just be terrible. Well, it's...

It's interesting. It's funny because I saw a bunch of pictures, speaking of pictures of celebrities, of like celebrities dressed up for Halloween. And sometimes I guess I'm guilty of thinking or remembering that celebrities just do the same things we do, except like they're like, I forgot that they went to a Halloween party too. Like you and I went out for Halloween on Saturday in New York and we

They all did the same thing, like Justin Bieber and Hailey Bieber and like all this, but they just happened to be at a party with a bunch of celebrities. Yeah, but they like that is different, right? Even they didn't just go to some to some bar. They had their own party. Yeah, they went to a like stud filled lineup, you know?

I just think that that would be a wild party to go to. And then I, and then I like try to think like, are there VIP sections in those parties? Like there's gotta be like, everyone has their own like table or like, so then like there are no fricking normies, right? Man. Everyone's just at like a table and no one's at the bar. Yeah. And then like, do people show up just for the red carpet and then go home?

Probably, man. Speaking of Justin Bieber, I'm so happy to see that so many people decided to dress up as Justin and Hailey Bieber.

That cracked me up, right? Where Haley's wearing that like tight, hot red dress and Justin's wearing that hoodie, you know, drawn up with the drawstrings with a pink hat on top of his head and like even no undershirt. And he just looks all raggedy, you know, wearing like yellow Crocs and, you know, Haley looks all hot and done up. And I saw a lot of people doing that. And that made me laugh my ass off. It's like, that is a really funny costume idea.

I will say that, and I'm a big fan of them. Love Justin. I love the Biebers. I love everything about them. And I've seen Never Say Never several times. With that said, though, I have not seen a picture of them like...

smiling in a long time. And I know like, if you're getting like, if the pops is after you and like taking pictures of you on the street and annoying you, like you wouldn't be smiling, but like, like, have you seen, and I'm not saying anything from this. I'm just saying that like, I haven't seen a picture of those two not looking disgruntled in a long time. And I just wonder what, what that's about, you know, is it because there's a million cameras on them or like, what's the deal?

Yeah. I think that everything that you just said is the way that I'm feeling, right? Where it's like, I'm not just jumping to a conclusion of like, oh, they must be unhappy, you know, together, right? I'm curious as well, right? Because, you know, you always see Justin who's like, who looks like he was forced to be out in public. He's like, okay, why are you dragging me here? And you wonder if it's just because he's like, I just don't want all these cameras in my face. Get out of my face and let me just be, let me just be.

Or if something's going on, because you're right, man, didn't we do that? Didn't we do that thing a while ago where, you know, the direction of like which way that you lean and everything kind of kind of says everything. I just feel like I haven't seen a couple photo of them in a while. I always just see her, you know, walking and he's kind of behind her like, all right, I'll be there in a second. Yeah. This said that.

There's a new R-rated green line. Wait, what? Wait, did you say there's an R-rated what? An R-rated green line test. Oh, right. It says that a tamed woman in love turns her pelvis towards her man when posing for a picture and doesn't flaunt her availability by facing into the world. Well, that's just stupid. Like, you're going to judge a girl by how she poses? Like, I feel like that just goes to confidence.

Well, isn't that what the Green Line test is? Is, you know, completely based on how they're posing? Oh, this is saying that, like, when Justin was with Selena, they stand totally different than...

Justin and Haley, but I don't know if I see it. I think that's a huge stretch. Speaking of Selena and, and, and we don't have to move on, but I did want to mention, I saw a comment where she said that she thought that Travis and, or sorry, she thought that Taylor was moving too quickly with, with Travis. What, what's your quick, quick, I take on that. Well, I mean, I think that's obvious. I think the girl is finally like a,

you know, a cool job. And like, she just dove in head first. Well, yeah. Like she just got out of like an eight year relationship or whatever it was with like a square. I mean, I don't know anything about the guy, but like they didn't, she wasn't out going to football games and partying. And I think she's just like, but I don't,

in my gut would say that, yeah, she jumped like wildly in, but I don't think she's like fallen, you know, like, I think she's like jumped way in, but I don't know if she's falling. Right. Right. Right. So like,

So you think that she's just having fun. Like you think that she's having fun and she's going to football games and she's doing like, like normal people, things that people do like football games and have, you know, handshakes with people and she's cheering for a sport that she may or may not understand. I think there's a high that comes from that. Just like when we said we love like a baseball game, like, you know, date, but,

like you know it's an adventure and it's an activity and like i think doing normal people stuff she's probably associating all of those endorphins and like feel good chemicals with him and she's just having fun and if anything he's maybe pulled her back into like out of like sheltering or like hiding from the world maybe she's like gonna be like yeah she probably would suck if they broke up and then she'd be like i have a whole life to live in front of me

Yeah, I actually like this take from you, Craig. I like that take where she's like, I'm actually just having fun dating. And, you know, I'm not worried about, you know, this and that, like, I'm going to go to these

you know, football games, even though that I'm shown on the television screen, like 27 times a game, I'm going and I'm having fun. Cause I'm just going to be like a, like a normal human or whatever normal means for Taylor Swift. Well, I might have 40 security agents outside, but I'm still coming. Yeah. I am coming for the fourth time in a row to a football game, which I think is even funnier. So, okay. All right. All right. So it's like too early to tell, uh,

if she has jumped in too much or if she's really just having the time of her life. But if she's like canceling plans with her friends to stay in with him already, then like, that's one thing. And only Selena, you know, would know that. But yeah,

Again, she is out and about, which you can't. That's more she's been out and about in years. And so you kind of have to love that aspect of it. Yeah. Yeah, I actually do. She's like, OK, this is sweet. I'm dating the popular jock.

Right. She's the prom queen, and she's dating the captain of the football team. I don't forget where I read it or saw it, but someone was like, every girl at one point in her life wants to date the popular jock. It is on a precursor of girls dating bucket lists in their life. I mean, it's a pretty standard. Not every girl, but I mean...

I just, I think if girls were telling the truth at one point, they'd be like, man, yeah, I've kind of thought what it would be like to date a professional athlete. I'm sure it ain't a bad life to live. Just, yeah, I'm sure it ain't. They're like, all right, I only date athletes because they have mega money and can provide me the lifestyle. Not that Taylor needs it because she just was pronounced a billionaire. Really? Yeah. I mean...

the girl is quite literally rolling in money. So you want to answer some bestie questions? I think we take a break and... Yeah, we'll take a break and answer some questions. Sounds good to me.

I would like to talk to you about one of our sponsors, Timeline Nutrition, and one product in particular, MitoPure. MitoPure is one of the first products to offer a precise dose of urolithin A to help upgrade your mitochondrial function, help increase cellular energy, and help improve muscle strength and endurance. I've started taking it recently and have started to tell that there is definitely one I work out or am active. But MitoPure does more than just help with my muscle health.

it can help with health stand as well. I want to be one of those granddads one day that you see in the video of him swinging his grandkid around. I want to rely on myself for as long as I possibly can. One way to think of MitoPure is that they are in your cells, chomping up the damaged mitochondria that makes you feel old and tired and helping to recycle it into new healthy ones.

ones. Mitochondria, our cells' power generators, are one of the key influences in how we age. However, as the years pass, mitochondrial efficiency naturally declines, representing a large gap in the quality of life we expect in our later years and the one we experience.

Taking two soft gels a day for two months and you could see significant improvements in your cellular energy, muscle strength, and endurance. After four months of taking Mito Pure, you might feel yourself getting stronger, recovering faster after a workout, and experiencing less inflammation, all part of your healthier aging routine, which is honestly amazing.

Timeline is offering 10% off your first order of Mito Pure. Go to timeline.com slash pillowsandbeer. That's T-I-M-E-L-I-N-E dot com slash pillowsandbeer. These statements and products have not been evaluated by the Friedenslog administration. These products are not invented by no street pure company.

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Get your first month free at greenlight.com slash pod. Greenlight.com slash pod. Welcome back to Pillows and Beer, besties. We love you being here with us, and we love being here with you. Joined with my bestie, Austin Crowe, and my other bestie, Nick Norris.

And we're going to answer some listener questions, some questions from our besties. Why don't you pick one, Austin? Okay. As we're on break, I kind of was perusing these. So I'll start with this. Okay. CNA. That's Craig and Austin for all those out there.

I think my boyfriend may be cheating on me. I do not have any concrete proof, but I just feel like I can sense it. We have been dating for over a year now, and lately he has been working later or spending more time at the golf course and gym. Or so he says. Judge me, and maybe I deserve this, but I cheated on one of my previous boyfriends, so I just feel like I can judge it. Do I confront him or get proof first, or am I just being paranoid?

first off i hope it's not true and second off yeah let's dissect this yeah i mean there is only one real answer and it it sucks but like that and in my opinion the only answer is to talk to him about it um and one of two things is gonna happen he's not and he's gonna be super sweet about it and he's gonna be like but tell me what i've been doing that made you think that way

Because it's the last thing on my mind. And like, I'm so sorry, but like, I really have just been missed working or he's going to get super defensive and you're going to be like, fuck. I knew my like gut was right. Now that is dependent on how you approach it. And if you are super nice about it,

and super calm and and preface it by saying I have something to talk to you about I'm insecure about it and I might be completely wrong and you don't just like accuse him of something then my theory is probably true but you know gut gut feelings can be wrong with some people but

a lot of times you you do have to trust your gut it's a thing okay yeah i mean i am not the foremost expert on long-term relationships but i feel like i

Just thinking about this and trying to put myself in their shoes, it is one of those things where you don't go on full accusatory mode. You say, hey, I've noticed this. It seems like you're pulling away. Is there a reason or am I overthinking this? And you just try to be super healthy about the bringing up of it before the

before it escalates if if it does escalate right because maybe just like Craig said maybe he's like no seriously I am just like super busy and I'm sorry that I've been neglecting but I feel like that's just the way to go about it well and the pro and the reason that we're not telling you to just get over it and stop overthinking it and stuff is because that's not possible right if that thoughts in your head you're going to continue to overanalyze

are over scrutinized and overanalyze everything that's happening. And if you start to get that gut feeling like when he's not home or he's working late and you're getting a bad gut feeling and now it's taking time out of your life and you're stressing and you can't keep your head straight, which is basically like what happens after you're cheated on. That's why you need to talk sooner than later because it's going to manifest itself somehow, right? Like it's going to come out. And so you might as well just

do it as peaceful as possible. But I mean, you know, if you're not talking to your girlfriends about it, it might mean that your gut is strong. Like you might actually be really worried that this is happening. Um,

And so you just need to talk about it. And if it is, it's the worst fucking feeling in the world. But guess what? It gets better. Yeah. It's like six months, but you will be, you're better for it. You're better for it, which is, you don't want to be with someone who doesn't want to be with you. And then when they like admit it, you're like, okay,

Well, that hurts like hell, but it's embarrassing. But actually, no one ever judges the person they got cheated on. If you think about it, like take yourself out of this, like the scenario, people judge the cheater. But as the one that gets cheated on, you feel the most embarrassed. Craig froze on us.

Craig? Oh, well, I have the audio on my side. Okay. Okay. I just said the person who's most embarrassed is actually the cheater. Sure. If you take yourself out of it. But as the person that gets cheated on, you feel. Well, maybe he's not cheating. Maybe he's just pulling away. And so then it's a conversation anyway. It's like, hey, is this what you're doing? Are you pulling away from me?

That's a great point. If that's the case, then I would rather know now than waste another six months or a year or whatever. All right, Craig, you want to read one? You've been eyeing one. Hi, all. I know you have answered the question about what superpowers you would choose, but which superhero or villain would you want to date? Which superhero or villain would we want to date? I know mine. Okay. I mean, I feel like...

Okay, well, tell me yours. Okay, so the first person that came to mind was Black Widow. That's my shit. I think the Black Widow Russian spy, like, reformed Russian spy, like, that's hot to me. It is obviously, it's played by Scarlett Johansson. Mm-hmm.

I did think her sister was cool in their movie. I loved the way they did together. Her sister played by, yeah, I liked her sister too. Florence Pugh, I always...

Yeah, I actually know that it's Pew because she was like, just imagine that you are making the gun gesture with a toy gun and you're like, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. She's like, that's so you. That's funny. Her, and then second place would be number six from I Am Number Four. It's the girl that shows up on a crotch rocket and watches his back.

And you're just like, where the hell did number six go? And like, is he falling for her? Because I love Quinn or Diana Abrams. She was Quinn and Lee. So like she basically shows up wearing what I'm wearing now. And you're just like, this bitch is a badass. So, yeah, mine is number six or Black Widow. OK, so I'm going to flip it on its head.

You know, because obviously like a Wonder Woman, you know, you're like, yes, tall Amazonian, you know, woman who would just, I mean, so that's like, that's, but the man handle, like, like, you know, those memes where it shows like, you know, the guy who like is up against the chain link fence and you're the girl like is picking them up. It's like, that's what she would do to you. And you'd be like, oh my God.

But to flip it on its head, right? Because like, does it have to be women, right? Like, I feel like

as like, if not that I want to date a man, but if they're like the women that are listening, they have to be thinking that are like, hmm, who would I want to date in the universe? And obviously the first one that comes to mind is Bruce Wayne, but Bruce Wayne has so much trauma and everything from his childhood and past. Yes, he's got all the money in the world, but man, is he an unavailable, sad kind of human who does not want to be with anybody. He's just like,

I'm destined to be alone and I am haunted by my past. So just to be clear, you picked Bruce Wayne. I said I was going to flip it on its head. And then like, like, because yeah, you can date a man. Like the women that are listening are probably thinking about who, who they would want to date in the MCU. I said, like we talked about earlier, Thor.

and i said yeah i mean yeah thor's like a mythical god right and just like you know craig said he wanted to hang out with chris hemsworth there you go all right nick nick dude who would you date oh probably black cat i'm gonna get super nerdy because i just played the new spider-man game she's like spider-man's like ex-girlfriend and she's like she's like the cat woman of marvel

I was Black Widow, you were Black Cat. What about She-Man? Black. We got a theme, dark and mysterious. Dark and mysterious. But I said no to Bruce Wayne because he'd be a terrible partner. That's where your mind went, Austin. We got to go with your gut. Whitney is Bruce fucking Wayne, isn't he? Whitney? Yeah, kind of. Oh, man. Not cool enough, though.

All right. What's what's your next question? I don't know, Craig, man, you went, you went really happy and funny. And now I'm thinking, I just wait, go. This is a good one because then I want to end on a more fun one, but this says my ex-girlfriend cheated on me and her family is pissed about it. We got along. We got along extremely well.

Her dad and I actually play at the same golf club and see one another all the time. He still talks to me and I see her sister at the gym occasionally. I avoid it like the plague when the one is there. When the one is there. I wonder if he can't even say her name. Like, dude, I just hate cheaters. In the air.

I like the family a lot, but I am still really hurt over everything. I would like my space, but I do like them and I know it is not their fault. How would you handle this situation? They're all bummed and keep apologizing. We were dating for almost three years and I had asked her dad's permission. Holy crap.

That all went out the window, obviously, when we all found out she'd been sleeping with someone else for five months. Her sister finally found out and blew the whole thing up. I mean, look, you're broken up. You got to break up with the family. I mean, yeah, like it's sad, but this is part of like breakups are so sad. But you need to disconnect yourself from that. That's a slice of pie.

A slice of the pie that you got to throw away. Yeah. I mean, you know, even if you love the fam, they love their daughter. Even if they think that it was a really shitty move on the daughter's part. Like that's just the way it is. Like she's going to be going, going home for Christmas, not you. And you can keep it cordial. Of course, you know, with the dad and whatnot, when you see him at the golf club,

But you no longer get access to her family, even if they're pissed at her. I think the funniest thing about the whole thing is that the very last sentence, her sister finally found out and blew the whole thing up. So the sister was like,

you better tell him or I will. And it's normally like the other way around. And she, yeah, this sounds like a fricking movie. Oh, it really does. And look, dude, it sounds like you're keeping a good head about it. We're sorry. And it sucks. But obviously if she was having an affair for five months, it's better that you found out now than after planning a wedding. But yeah, like the thing is there, um,

They don't, it's a package deal. And like, when you break up, you just, like, you don't get to have your cake and eat it too. And that's one of these situations, not against you, but the family can't be friends with you. I know they loved having you around, but they just, their daughter cut,

you know, ruin that for them. And you don't need any connection to them, especially if you thought you were going to propose, like you need to really cut the cord. And, and, you know, when you are dating again, you know, you can say hi to her dad and the member member and catch up a little bit, but like you need, you need space. Yeah. Yeah.

Yep. Gotta, gotta hand it to Craig when he's right. And in this situation and these situations, you really do just need to like cut off ties with the ex, which it sounds like you're doing because she was cheating on you for a while, which I'm sorry to hear. That's terrible to find out. But, um,

She is getting it from like you basically should be like, you know what? Like you, you know, win. You fucking win is basically what's happening here. Not in the sense you got to put like the sense that she feels like a freaking fool. Her family's like, you idiot. You ruined everything. This was supposed to be it. And now you get to actually go off and be super happy even if it doesn't feel like you are. You know, now when you find that next person, you are going to be like, thank God.

god and that's it oh that's thank you yeah it's fun when we uh when we agree it's fun when we're and if also and i are on the same page it's a pretty powerful boat i assume nick is uh on the same page too are you nick yeah i mean it's just tough that you got to see him but you kind of just have to tell him that you need space no you don't have to tell him you need to ghost him and never dark them again

Well, but if you're playing in the same golf league, if they're at the same golf club and everything. What's up, bro? That's it. What's up? Hey, Mr. C. What's up? Yeah. What's up, Mr. C? All right, later. Hit him straight. Your daughter's a whore. Right before he takes off. Fighting the first tee. And he's like, I'm well aware, son. I am well aware, me boy.

Okay, this is a good one. My and important. My brother is gay and has only told me. My brother is gay and has only told me. I know this isn't your area of expertise, but would love to know how you would tell your parents as he wants my help breaking the news. I am 23. He is 26. He came out to me in college, but he is finally ready to share with my parents. Well, thank you for sharing this with us. Yeah, this is cool. And

I have a, I'm actually going to be in my first gay wedding. Only the second wedding I've ever been in next year. And we're going on. It's one of our very close friends. He's in my like groomsman chat and we're all going on his bachelor party in January. It's going to be, it's going to be great. So I've only ever had him come out.

To me, I think. Okay. This is immediately what I thought of. And let me just get it out there in like how I think that it would go. And then we can workshop from here. You can give me your opinion. But I see it going like in my head. This is what kind of popped up. So you're at dinner, the four of you.

And you basically, you talk to your brother and you're like, "Hey, I'm here for you and I got your back and you should come out to mom and dad when we're at dinner, at home or something like that." And then when the dad or mom looks at me like, "Oh, did you know?" And then I give the confirmation and you're the backup like, "Yeah, I do know. Now let's talk about this." And it's like, "Okay." And that's how I see it going.

And that's great. And I'll throw out a few things. One, fortunately, the statistics lean in the favor of no one cares anymore. And, you know, who you like, no one should care what type of porn someone else watches. You know, I have certain categories I like.

people i know man but like you never know what what tell them you want to date bruce your parents no but you know your parents that are like from like a different era are gonna say i know so my but my parents so my buddy that came out to me uh it was hilarious he just texted me i was like by the way craig you're the last to know but i'm gay get over it or i'm gay deal with it and i was like oh i was like i don't like you know

I was like, we don't watch like nothing changed. Like, I didn't know you were into that type of porn or something funny. Like, but I didn't like it changed. Obviously. Absolutely. I'm gay. Deal with it. Yeah. Like, that's what he said. And I was like, well, why the fuck was I the last to know? Like, I think that was my response.

And his family had a tough time with it. And so I've seen it like firsthand. And so my only advice is to talk to one of your gay friends and ask them, because like, as much as we want to think we would know what would happen, we have not had to have that conversation with our parents, but your gay friends have. And I would just ask them,

them for the advice because if it was me I would talk to my parents individually like in similar things like when I've had something serious to talk to them about I've talked to my mom about it and I've talked to my dad about it and they don't keep secrets from each other so there was no like telling one and not the other but I had time to talk to both of them and I think it was a lot more intimate than when I have conversations with both of them presently

it comes down to your parents as well like i've seen it go both ways like you said where parents don't take it very well and then also where the parents are just like yeah we know kind of thing right like or and like you know your parents better and there's parents that are just happy or healthy you know having a healthy child is pretty much all you can ask for and um but i think you should ask someone that's been in this situation that's that would be my

My advice, but I like Austin's idea and I like talking to them. You know, fortunately, like, I did watch coming out kind of go awry and I will tell you that that was.

Probably five years ago. And I'm not saying it took five years, but that family is closer than ever. And they love each other so much. And it's the most fun family to be around. And so I think, you know, it was just unexpected for them because it was just unexpected. And it was a shock. But there, you know, it all works out, which is good.

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