This Time Last Year: Low Tide and Spencer Pratt
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Every team, every topic, everywhere. This is Believe. Happy New Year. Happy New Year, besties, and welcome to the first podcast of 2024. Podcast-ish. Podcast-ish, that's right. Nick and I are jumping on here to say what's up. Craig is traveling, but we wanted to get something out there.

And we realized and we talked about it that a lot of y'all out there are new listeners and we talk about Spencer Pratt's podcast all the time. So we'd like to throw it out there every once in a while. So for those of you that haven't heard it, the 30 minutes after this podcast,

A little intro with me and Nick will be with Spencer and just a little background. This is when Craig and I were in quote unquote quarantine in Burlington waiting to go to Stowe, Vermont to film the first season of Winter House. Craig and I had all of our podcast stuff and we were like, you know what we should do?

We should just, you know, record just like a bunch of podcasts. And so we got Spencer on there and we ended up talking for like three and a half hours. I don't know what Nick is going to play you, but I'm sure that he's going to play you. I'm playing you the whole time. No, I'm playing like a lot most of it. I'm playing – well, we record for four hours. I'm playing half of it. I'm playing two hours of it. I'm giving everybody a fun kickoff to the new year because –

I, there's just so many parts. I did listen like through it and just like, Oh yeah, I'll just, you know, pick 10 minutes here, 10 minutes there. And I was like, screw that. I'll just give everybody, I'll just, I'll just replay like the whole favorite, uh, first two hours that we were recorded because that was our fifth episode. And it was one of those things where, you know, I didn't know you and Craig that well. And, and,

You certainly did not know Spencer. Yeah, no, I wasn't ready for it at all. He was way different than I told my sister because it was right after the holidays. Those are the best guests. Spencer, screw him. He's terrible. Everybody hates him. And then comes on as totally the exact opposite of what anybody would think of Spencer Pratt from what they saw in the heyday of reality TV.

I mean, yeah, man, he has a family now, but, you know, he's super open. He's super just, he's like, ask, and then you don't even ask. And then he starts talking. But funny that you say that, that it was our fifth podcast, Nick, because when, when we were doing our lives, so we weren't really podcasting during COVID or during COVID. Yeah.

We were always drinking. We were always drinking. And so then when we began a podcast afterwards, we were drinking still. It was almost like we thought that people were only listening because of our drunken antics. So we just kept on drinking and kept on drinking. And then basically after Winter House, we were like,

Holy moly. Like we do not have to drink every single podcast and, but, but that's what we were doing. So we were definitely lit up like Christmas trees, but that's just also, we were bored as hell because we were in quarantine in Burlington during fricking COVID basically. So yeah, it'll be a lot of fun to listen and hope that our new besties get a little laugh out of it. But Nick man, happy 2024.

We'll have to recap our evenings when Craig is on here because Craig hosted a little shindig, and I know that he wants to talk about it, but it was great. So we'll hold off on the recap.

I just want to jump right into last night's football games, Nick. Alabama, Michigan in the Rose Bowl at 5 p.m. Eastern, and then right afterwards at 8 or 9 o'clock was Washington versus Texas in the Sugar Bowl. Obviously, Bama lost, and

Texas lost, so the national championship will be Michigan and Washington. Go Big Ten. A week today. A week today on the 8th. So congrats to both of them, but also devastated. Devastated that Bama lost. I mean, Bama was up 20-13, 4th-2, and we were sitting there on the couch, and I was over at my buddy Keith's house, and he was like,

If he does not get this

fourth down then Jim Harbaugh is going to the NFL next year and I was like oh nothing would make me happier than for then to ruin even Michigan's hopes and dreams and you know Nick gets another coach fired and now it's the opposite man what if Nick Saban kind of comes out and he's like I think I'm gonna retire I'm like no Michigan fans will never let us live that down and um

I posted something about it last night, and I was like, what a game. Congrats to Michigan. I got 1,000 freaking DMs today. I was going to text you and everything, but thought to it. I was like, he's probably getting a lot of DMs and texts right now because it was the first – was it the –

Did you guys make a fourth down conversion on the first set of downs in overtime? Or was it a third down? Because you guys were kind of back a little bit. You got down to the fifth, and then the shit hit the fan real quick. I think that what happened was it was just like a defensive battle. And –

You know, it was just like. That play calling was terrible. Oh, on that fourth down call? No, the fourth down, I think that should have been first and second down should have been two QB sneaks. It should have been block for number four. Block for number four. Yeah.

And everyone knew it. And everyone was like, okay, well, number four freaking got you there. So let's give number four a chance to win you the game. But it was a low snap and it was supposed to be. So what I'm referring to is in the first set of overtime games,

Michigan scores in two plays, two freaking running plays. Like my head was in my hands. I was laughing about that because so many people on Twitter were saying how Corum's going to suck. None of these Michigan teams know how to run the football. Okay. Well, Nick, man, other than that run, I mean, he had some passes, you know, out of the backfield, which were great, you know, design passes, but like he didn't, he didn't eat us up.

until that play when he just ran for like 28 yards. I was like, you've got to be kidding me. And then we get there. It's like fourth and three on the three. And it was like, we just laid an absolute goose egg. We laid a goose egg. And...

It was a bummer, but it's not the end of the world. But yeah, I mean, I haven't really been watching ESPN today. That's a given. Oh, so you're like me. Same thing I do. If my team suffers a bad loss, I just do not listen to sports talk. I'll watch it again.

I'll watch it again, man, because I'm not I'm not, you know, 26 anymore. Right. Where I like lived and died by Bama, you know, winning and losing. I certainly wanted my alma mater to win. There's no doubt about that. Now, the second game, Texas, and I told myself that I wasn't going to watch it. Right. I was like, I don't care. You know, I don't care now, man, because frickin Bama lost. And now I don't care. I found myself glued to the TV.

And I turned it off when Washington kicked that field goal to go up by nine. And I was like, okay, well, you know, no matter what happens. And then I wake up and there was a pass deflection on the last play of the game in order for Washington to win. And I was gobsmacked. I was like, damn, I missed another great game.

Yeah, I did too. I think I fell asleep during the third quarter. I have to be honest. I didn't think that Washington had it in them, but I'm so happy. I'm stoked. Like, I think it's going to be an awesome game. I was going to bet on Michigan. I was going to bet on Texas. I mean, on Washington in a little too, but I forgot North Carolina can't gamble. So I was screwed.

um okay and then there's uh and then there's the florida state players that are now you know trolling bama and they're posting all this stuff like by the way yeah man you know given not deserved

I mean, and I understand if someone out there is a Florida State fan, they're like, we played with our backups. So did Georgia. So did Georgia, except for their quarterback, who is not a Heisman guy. If you're a prestigious program like Florida State was claiming they were, your backup should have been able to put up more than three points and not allow 63 or whatever it was. Big facts. 63-3. So Florida State, every Florida State fan, sit down. Sit. Down.

You did not deserve it. You showed exactly why, like you should have done the opposite and been like, we are going to show you that we should have been in there. And the problem is Nick, here's the problem or not the problem, but, but here's what I find funny is that the Florida state would have been like, yeah, we're going to show you. And then they would have put their best foot forward at the end that they would have put up.

10 points. And so it would have been 63 to 10. So Florida State was like, shit, well, let's not even try, right? Because we don't want this narrative to be out there that all of our starters were in and we still got punched in the mouth. They were not deserving. The committee finally, although I would have put Georgia in over Texas if it were me. Yeah.

everybody's like, well, they beat Alabama. Well, they beat a different Alabama team in week two. Sure. Sure. If you're going to take Florida state out and claim that you're putting the best four teams in there, Ohio state or Georgia, I understand, you know, and now I hear all the Georgia fans, you know, man, they're all an up upheaval. You're, you're, you're telling me that we're not one of the best, you know, four teams. It's like,

Well, I mean, I get it. After that performance, I mean, I totally think so, I think. But you can't put them in there over a Bama that just beat you. Yeah, that's the problem. Dude, the freaking committee was in a lose-lose-lose-lose situation. One school was going to hate it, but they got it right in my opinion, too. Finally, I think that was the first time in a long time we had two great games.

And I was just going to say, I think that what they did get correct is by not putting it on Florida State. Yeah, because of NTCU. We would have watched just a drubbing. Yeah, it wouldn't have been any fun. What are you doing? And this is no smack talk to Florida State fans or to Georgia fans or to Michigan fans. It's just what we perceive as.

to be the truth and what the committee thought. Yeah, definitely what the committee thought. Um, all right. Well, I feel like without further ado, a little bit of college football talk. See, see, and that was fun. See, it's something that we can't normally do with Craig because Craig went to a school that doesn't have college football, so he doesn't care about it, but, uh, great and awesome games and good luck to Michigan and Washington in the championship. Um,

I'm like, it almost made me curious, Nick. I like kind of want you to throw out a poll, not necessarily for Michigan and or Washington, because I think that Michigan would overwhelmingly win that. But it made me wonder if Michigan is like one of the biggest fan bases out there. So it's like the poll question could almost be like, are you a fan of Michigan or, you know, any other one, anyone else? Yeah.

I'm like curious what our biggest fan base is that listens to post beer. All right. I'll make a poll. I'll do that. I'll do that Monday. I'll do that Monday before the game. I think that's a good time to do it. All right, besties. Well, happy 2024. Nick and I just want to pop on here and sew it up. And we will see you a lot more in 24. Our live shows are coming up. We can't wait. Next week. Next week. Holy shit. Yeah, man. We fly to Boston next Wednesday. Okay. We'll see you guys then.

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What's up, everybody? And we are redoing our intro to this episode because we recorded the other night and it was vintage Craig and Austin. Vintage Instagram live, drunk, arguing about rom-coms and stuff that happens on planes. I mean, it was great, but...

Then we interviewed Spencer, Spencer Pratt from the Hills and from Big Brother UK and from the Hills reboot that's filming right now, season two. I mean, everyone knows who Spencer Pratt has. Pratt, Daddy Crystals.

He needs no introduction. So we interviewed him after filming this incredible episode and it ended up going four hours long. And so today that's wild. We are going to move the episode that Austin and I filmed before interviewing Spencer till next week. And instead we just cut down this four hour interview into, it's probably 90 minutes to two hours now. And that's going to be today's episode.

Yeah, I think it's funny. I mean, I didn't realize that we were on with him for four hours, but like once we started going, we just, we just really went for it. Didn't we? I mean, I don't see how we would top that interview and we will continue to try, but Spencer, no matter what you think of him already, you got to listen to this interview because things will change. I mean, Austin laughed the entire interview.

I mean, for like him to, I mean, you're going to hear, but like for him to fully lean into how much that he was hated is so funny to me. He's like, dude.

I was going to be the worst villain ever. And it happened. It's a tell-all that consists of some of the biggest names in the business right now, him getting canceled from Costa Rica. I mean, aliens, auras, hummingbirds. We really couldn't even begin to summarize crystal, which cracks my ass up, Craig, because if that would have happened to me, what had an absolute panic attack, right? He was like,

You know, well, yeah, you're very first crystal. Right. And, and, and, you know, and then he's like my business manager called and told me that it was worth, you know, and, and your skin, it's just funny. So you're going to hear it all, but we were really, once again, it's like kind of vintage us as well, because, because we just were popping, he got three, three bottles of champagne and he was like, look, I know that, you know, you boys get loose. So like I got five,

Three bottles of champagne. I was like, perfect. I've already been drinking. So let's go. Heidi pops in for a little bit. Gunner makes an appearance. So it's a grand old time. We have a blast, but because it's so long, we're moving the stuff that we've already recorded till next week. And you're going to really enjoy that. Also. Lastly, before the interview with Spencer, we just wanted to address our Instagram kind of snafu, right? I mean, I've gotten lots of messages from people that are saying,

You know, why'd you block me? Why'd you block me?

Um, our Instagram, I don't want to say hacked, but someone else kind of has the same name. It's just spelled differently. And so we reported him and he reported us and now both accounts are down. It's just taking some time to get back up. Right. So no one's blocked. We are bummed. It's taking this long. It just is part of the process. We love that account and how fast it's growing and engaging with all of y'all. So it should be up by tomorrow. Um,

And if it's not, then Thursday. But no one has been blocked. And yeah, Pillows and Beer Instagram account will be back. But it's just temporary offline. Death to Pillows and Beer. Whoever took that, you are on my shit list.

Exactly. So speaking of shit list, here is the original person that was on everyone's shit list until you listen to this interview. And that's what happened to us when we originally met him too. You really start to fall for this guy. He's awesome. So without further ado, here's our interview with Spencer Pratt. What up, dude? Spence. Yo, yo, yo, yo. Cheers, players. Yo.

There we go. Nick Morris. We got Nick up in here. I see Nick. Nick's our boy, man. He makes all this stuff. He has to listen to our bullshit every night, but he makes it happen. Well, I'm glad he's here to edit this up. Get these volumes right. Get all this mix sounding good. Thanks. And then obviously...

I'm drinking on bio dynamic champagne from air one. This particular brand is called Chloe. It's from France, obviously. Perfect. We're going to get unpacked. We're going to get paid for this ad. Unpack that. I don't think there, I wish I've been trying to find, I've been trying to find the DM cause I'm like,

my main expense lately is Chloe champagne. Wait, unpack what you just told us about that champagne. That was a pretty incredible description. I saw air one. You guys don't have them. Unfortunately, it's the only reason I can't come live and, you know, in wherever you live. Um,

So Air One is like the market that has the most organic. And this word, I had to Google it a couple of times. Biodynamic is like, again, I'll probably have to Google it again. I can't tell you what it means, but it's basically like everything. Sounds sexy. Super, you know,

Good. I don't want to misquote it because people are like, it's biodynamic. That's what it is. Well, everyone, we're here with Spencer Pratt, the legendary one and only Spencer Pratt on Pillows and Beer. Spencer has a tie-dye tank top on. I have actually a tie-dye t-shirt on.

Three years ago, we were in L.A. and we get an, you know, our email in the morning. This is important that we're doing Spencer and Heidi's podcast. Make Spidey famous again. Or what was the podcast called? Is that what it was? It's called the Spidey podcast because I'm famous again. Exactly. And you got what you wanted, which is amazing. You know, I got to achieve the level I was. We got rid of the make again, you know, so we're good.

And we'll go through all that. So we get word that we're doing this podcast. I mean, we're pretty hungover because of the press tour we're on. But I only knew Spencer from the hills at that point because you weren't on Laguna Beach or were you? Because I know you did Princes of Malibu or whatever, right? No Laguna Beach. Okay, no Laguna Beach. So just the hills.

And I was like, I don't know if I'm going to get along with this guy. Like I just, you know, I'd only seen what I saw on television and I didn't know what I was going to walk into. And Spencer and Heidi ended up being cool as shit. We didn't get to see Heidi that much because she went out with Gunner who was young at the time, but we walk into the room and Spencer, uh,

You just blew my mind away. It was not what I expected. And that's why we wanted you to come on here because you were just salt of the earth. Let me just say that your energy when we walked in, right? Craig and I were like, I don't know what to expect. I mean, we're talking to...

we're talking to TV guides, 2013 top 60 villains of television, which you should wear as a badge of honor, by the way, that's fucking incredible.

I mean, I celebrated America's most hated human for a few years. I mean, I beat OJ. I beat Casey Anthony. So how do you survive? I mean, how did you work your way through that? And like, you know, I mean, Austin dealt with some shit this year. I've dealt with my shit on a couple of years. But how did you mentally keep your head during all this stuff?

Well, I had so many witnesses, like my close friends and everybody around me knew that my game plan post-Princes, and I saw Simon Cowell get so famous for being the asshole, hated guy. I told everybody, I'm going after the Simon Cowell niche, right? Here's what I didn't factor in as a rookie.

Simon Cowell got away with it because he was just keeping it 100 about people that didn't have a talent. You can't just be like the worst person and like not have like a reason for it. So the good news is like all my close friends were like, dang, you pulled it off, bro. You're the most hated person. I'm

So that always when I would have my touchstone, like I didn't get lost. Like they're like, you plan this. Remember like Brody to this day will be like, can you believe you actually said you were going to be the most hated person on planet? You pretty much did it. I was like, yeah, really? Thanks for the, maybe you shouldn't do that guide.

friendship yeah where were you brody why are you telling me that maybe i shouldn't do this yeah thanks for pushing me right into that but it's like but it's like you know your closest friends are like son of a bitch did it yeah you actually did it oh my god but then the recovery you know i definitely went into hiding for a good seven years like when so i

Long story short, when I thought hits were out on my life, I'm not going to put out the conspiracies. But I felt, and Heidi felt like, I'm going to get murked out. I felt like I need to go into hiding. Somebody's going to take me out. I really just felt that. Well, people were, yeah, there was a lot.

a passionate uh like yeah they're people are nuts out there so we get it and that's why it's amazing talking to you so we want to know what happened and you're like in that off season because you did disappear for a little bit oh seven years um i was seven years i didn't think it was that long yeah so so i got so hated that i could not go on a public this is gotta remember

This is back. No IG. Literally, Twitter just dropped, and you could only do 140 characters. You could barely get a photo eventually. So,

reality tv was the only thing people had there was like four shows on this yeah it was you guys in real world basically and survivor and like so when i was going out i was having scary people trying to just jump me and i i was paying at one time 10 grand a day in bodyguards they were trying to get past big d who was suge knight's bodyguard for death row records and he's like

They're trying to fight me, Spence. He's like, they're crazy. They're like, dude, you're next level in that. He's like, this is he's like seven feet. We go to Vegas. He's like, what did you do, Spencer? They're trying to get past him. And he was like, this is crazy. So, I mean, it was hectic and it was way more than I. But I was so obsessed with the fame and money that I was like, I don't care. And so, you know, what's interesting is that.

you know, Craig and I can film and you, we can do this and that. And like, you know, we often talk about it, right. Where people, you know, they love to chirp, right. You know, we all know that, you know, now that, you know, social media and, and, you know, the keyboard warriors are crazy, but like never in public, dude, never in public. Do people ever say like, fuck you, bro. Or like, you know, I can't believe that. Like, you said that to someone said like, that never happened. So it's just so interesting to hear that people were that way to you. And they were like, Oh,

like let's kick his ass like because no matter what we've done no one in public ever says anything mean do they only to ship

People were hanging out windows, flicking me off everywhere. I'd be at a restaurant. It was nuts. I'm telling you. But it's awesome how self-aware you are. And that's why we really enjoyed our time with you out there. And when we were put together, so this is our fifth episode, we had no idea the engagement that podcasts get. It's been really enjoyable to kind of expand how people get to see us instead of just seeing us on

our show, they get to see us here now. And I was like, I want to bring Spencer on because he brought us on and let's run it back. So we're pumped that you're here. So, so, so bottles of champagne for this episode. Love it. I've got, I've got a bottle of red wine and a Bud Light are fantastic.

You drinking the champagne right now gives me life because I just recently, I really just recently got into champagne, right? Like before that, I was like, let's drink mimosas at brunch until I puke. But now, oh man, a bottle of Vouv will get me to be the happiest person ever.

on planet earth. Yeah. That's why Heidi got me into it. And also just the process of popping the bottle. Like it's a celebration. I am like, Ooh, we'll pop like no other drink goes pop. Like I'm like, yeah, two glasses after two glasses of champagne. I'm like, all right, Craig. All right.

Let's book a flight to Paris. I'm a mimosa guy. That's what that does for me. I haven't appreciated champagne yet, but I like mimosas. They're good. That's why your show is so amazing because Heidi and I watch... Heidi is upset that she's not on the podcast. You can have Heidi as her own. Oh, yeah. We'll definitely have her. She's the actual expert and she made... Do you want me to make sure to tell you guys this is your best season ever. You guys killed it so hard. I forgot what else. She had a whole spiel, but...

Great. Have her come in before we finish. Yeah, she can definitely come in. That's amazing because she wants to have a whole episode. Yeah, we will. Because that's actually what like I wanted to talk about was that, you know, obviously we like, you know, digress because that's what we do. We're all over the place. But when Craig and I went to come and see you, I was not expecting to happen what happened. And what happened was when we walked in, you were like,

I love the show. And like, we had to ask Kristen. I was like, Kristen, was she like, you know, just saying that, you know, because, because, you know, he's like a pro or like, does he actually, she was like, no, no, no, no. Like, I think that he actually was being, yeah. Kristen had nothing but nice things to say. Oh, yeah, no. So we, yeah, no. So we recently became friends. Good. I know all that. I know all that.

Yeah, no, I know. I just, I didn't connect. I thought Kristen was at the podcast and now I know what we're talking about. Okay. Yeah. So she said you guys are awesome, but yeah. And so, and so I was like, Kristen, like I have to ask, like, you know, he said this when like we went onto their podcast,

She's like, no, you know, legit. Like, I think that, you know, Spencer is like, you know, legit and everything that, you know, he says, and then he wouldn't say it if he didn't mean it. And, and I'll never forget that when we came in there, you were like, guys, the show is rad. The show is rad. I honestly think it's this awesome show, but I just want one of y'all to be single and like go off the rails. Like, I just want y'all to go off the rails and like be single and just like hook up with chicks and be friends.

fucking wild. And I was right when I began to date, you know, my ex and Craig was kind of dating, you know, his ex at the time. And we say X and, and intentionally, so we don't say their names. We just say Scorpio now. No, no, no. So, so like when you said that, I was like, man, this is, I was like, this cat is wild. And now the time has come. Just want you to know that the time has come. The time is upon us. Oh no. Now you guys have success energy, which is so powerful because I,

What's so hard about being a reality star is everyone's always like, you're just a reality star. Now you guys have popping businesses. People understand you. Now is the time to shine. That was Heidi's point. You are just coming in. The frequency in your vibration has gone up since now you don't...

real life has fear and it's like you can feel like a light at the end of the tunnel like this reality thing worked out for you guys like you are success stories it's so hard to have freaking businesses that work so i mean now it's on like well so how did so how did you saw heidi by the way we gotta say to her yes i don't have my apron on i'm like i don't

No, we want, Heidi, we would love for you to come on and do an episode with us. It would be awesome. Cheers. We're Spidey, so I feel like you just skip both. No, good. Yeah.

uh that's bottle one down so that you got three bottles so so we're early in the podcast i hope you guys aren't going to bed or anything fuck no dude we did all this by the way because oh wait wait bravo is your podcast producer no no no no we stayed away from everyone so my agent and business partner does it and nick like that you saw on there so we we

knock on wood can't i don't know even why i would jinx us like this we're staying away from being canceled because right now it's all in-house so if you host our podcast like i don't know i don't know how to describe it we basically don't work for anyone we work for ourselves somehow right yeah but you guys are the i mean you're og your og um i've been i mean i feel like i've been canceled five million times so i

Hey, we want to know how you got canceled from Costa Rica, which I didn't know about until our producer told us. So that's the problem with being like a funny guy, right? So I made up all these stories in tweets. Like I had a professional, this is the level of budget I used to have. Like here's what people don't understand. Reality TV back then, you made billions of dollars, like millions of dollars, like millions

So I actually had a professional comedian doing my tweets and I'm telling this Costa Rica story and I'm like, make it so good about all this. And then I'm like banned from the cut, like all made up. Like I can go to Costa Rica. It says I'm like banned from Costa Rica. You need to join our show. This is awesome. You're a nut job.

That's why you can't play pretend in the real world. That is amazing, dude. I think that you and Craig are more kindred spirits. Yeah, me and you are way more similar. Yeah. So here's the real story with that. So when I thought we were getting assassinated, you know, we're getting worked out.

Here's the best part. We had a house in Palisades that we were paying a good 10 grand a month for, whatever, that we were living in. Then we're like, we got to get out of Palisades. We got to get a safe house. So we got a safe house in Malibu. Dude, we're the same person. You and I are the same person. It's like the government is tracking you. So I get a safe house in Malibu for like $65,000 a month. This house is

I think it just sold for $90 million. It's out of this world. So I had all my bodyguards living there who were really just stealing all of our stuff, all Heidi's diamonds, stealing my gold coins, stealing my Rolex. So they weren't –

Oh, my gold doubloons. They're after my gold doubloons. That's all. I put all my money in gold because I was like, I need... So I was rolling around with a backpack of a half a million in gold coins everywhere I went. I love you so much. I was like, if she cracks off, I got my gold coins.

So one day, Heidi's like, we decide when our plastic surgeon supposedly drives off the cliff. And we're like, he'd never drive off a cliff. They killed your plastic surgeon. We got to get out of here. So we're like, we call and book a private jet. And we're like, we're moving to Four Seasons, Costa Rica. So we take the flight and go.

I don't, you know, I didn't research, but I didn't know like in other countries, they have different gun laws. But so I'm like, we need our guns on the plane. We're going to live in the jungle and hiding out in the jungle. So we bring our guns with us. Legal guns. They're all registered, right? We take them to Costa Rica. I would have been with right next to you. Oh, no, anybody would have. We were living the best life. Like, so we get the biggest villa.

at the Papagayo, like this is where Obama secretly hides out at this Four Seasons of Costa Rica and Bill Gates. They'd be like, this is the only beach safe enough where Bill Gates walks without his security. I'm like, that's my beach. So we move there. We don't realize how expensive it is to try to live in a villa every day. So after like three months, this is not working.

And we're like, we got to get out of here. So we're like, we're going back to America. And on our way back, the guns that we were able to bring in no issue. You can't bring out. So they're like, you're under arrest. I'm like, what? I got a private jet. I brought these in. These are from America. Like, how do you think I got these here? Like, you think I sent them in the mail? Like, like we didn't let these in. I'm like, yes, you did. So yeah.

I go to fake jail or whatever and Heidi calls whoever she calls next to me. What is fake jail, by the way? Like a holding. Thank you, Heidi. A holding area. And keep in mind, Heidi's holding four dogs out on the other side of the holding area. We got two pomeranians, no leashes, two multi-poos. Two poms and two multi-poos, dude. Out of nowhere, this dude shows up and he's like, I'm like, who are you? And he's like,

I'm whatever he said. I don't want to misquote it. I'm your worst nightmare. No, no. He says like, like I'm your magic ticket or whatever. I'm your way out of gold coins. You want to be like, you're not going to pay him. Like, what do you mean? Who do you work for? And he's like, I work for the good guys. And I was like, I'm

I was like, am I Jason board? Like what's going on here? Do I work for the CIA? Is this Treadstone dude? Did Treadstone just find you? It started feeling like secret agency. And he's like, you'll be good. And I'm like, what? And then in the earlier, the Costa Rican jail people and everyone's like, you're going to do 50, a hundred days, 50 days, whatever. This woman with a gun fake belt did 30. And they're all scaring me. And next thing you know, the unicorn comes in and is like, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. And I'm out.

And I was like, this is amazing. I love this so much. I was like, do I have juice like this secretly? Like maybe I am an MK ultra operator or something. Austin's only laughing because this is how I think I live my life, but you actually did it, which is amazing. I was like, all of a sudden I was in a holding cell. They're talking about my jail sentence. And next thing you know, some guy out of nowhere comes and I sign a paper and I'm out. And they're like, get on your jet.

And you were never here. So I'm not banned from Costa Rica. Those are fake tweets. They love me and I love Costa Rica. I mean, that story was way better than being banned from Costa Rica. Yeah, no. Second, I have budget again. I plan to go back to Papagayo. I'm so stupid. I should have just buried all my guns at the first place.

Should have buried your gold doubloons. And that would have been an absolute treasure hunt, dude. You know, what's that guy's name called? Down payment on this house, unfortunately. What's that guy's name? What I should have done is buy Bitcoin because my college, best friend, the guy I pledged my secret society with, right? Ready for this, guys?

He has 94 million dollars. And he was calling me every day when I had Hills money and he had just normal homie money. And he was saying, you got to buy. This was in 2011. I would be a billionaire. Yeah, it was probably, what, 600 bucks back then? No, it was $2. And now it's going to like 48,000. Yeah, it's like... Wait, have you been playing the Reddit trading? Because I made... Oh, no.

I made some money last week. Anything I do goes wrong. Spencer, I'm feeling for you right now. The fact that you just... I mean, we were all there. There's an episode of Million Dollar Listing or something that's on Bravo where a couple or...

a home buyer was like, we, we will buy this in Bitcoin. Right. And like, you know, the realtor was like,

get out of here with that right i saw that guy it's a viral tiktok yeah it's me you know oh okay of course of course but like they they were like we'll give you like you know 55 bitcoin which today if he like you know would have sold it you know would have been worth like 94 million dollars and it's like you were like what i can call my homie and i just call him like you're so rich he's like i love you like ah

And then my other homie's an actual billionaire. He offed Bitcoin. And he was calling me too. Like, my other buddy's a billionaire now. And it's like, I have friends. That's fine. He has a Bitcoin. Wait, is he a billionaire that likes toys? Does he likes toys or does he not like toys? What does toys mean? Toys means, like, you would spend your money how we would spend our money if we had money. I would have everything. Yeah.

He's a smart guy. Like, no, that's the problem. That's why I'm not even a millionaire. No, but I would want to, I would, I would spend the money. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I've been always saying. Spencer did. And you get a house for three months. Spencer, what do you think is the biggest, the biggest luxury? I think flying private is one of the biggest luxuries you can experience in life when you actually, uh,

It changes things for you because you're just like, fuck, the difference between flying private and commercial is a lot. We were booking the fastest challenger jet. This is the level I was at. Which one's the fastest? I was like, what mocks speed is it? So we could take our dogs with us places. Like we lost the plot so hard. But the problem is you look at the Kardashians ready for this.

Kim got edited out of the hills organizing Heidi's closet. So my ego and my momentum was like, at one time, Kim couldn't even make the cut on

on the hills for me. You know, like that was Brody's stepsister that was like, ready, let's rewind to Prince of Malibu. Kim's first episode of reality TV, her and Courtney, you can watch on YouTube. Episode one of Prince of Malibu, you can watch their eyeballs when they come to Brody and our party on Fox and they're looking at all the cameras and just twinkles in their eyes.

Kris Jenner called me like the next day. I was like, Brody, why is, why is this lady calling me? And she's like, will you do what you did for Brody and do a show about my family? Like you guys live in the Valley. Ha.

No. Like, what are you talking about? That's how. So I live with that. I could have been Ryan Seacrest. You turned down the Kardashians. Yes. I was executive producer of a Fox show. They came to me. I said no. They went to Ryan Seacrest who had a cable show on E and got it, worked it out. It's like, think about that. Think about what I live with every day when I look at Kylie Jenner's IG story and I'm like, I can't even afford your cupcakes. Yeah.

but dude i mean you really i mean you say that everything you touch goes to shit but that's not true because you're a survivor you had the hills and then like you said you went into hiding for seven years or whatever but you told allson and i when we're at your podcast that you would be back and you guys are now what filming the second season of the hills remastered or what's it called technically we're filming season six but they've only aired they've only aired

season one. So that's just funny. Like real talk. I've shot six seasons of this show, but I, you know, I'm not true. Is that true? If I was editing it, we'd have six seasons. We know how that goes. We know. Do you get paid? Do you get paid if it doesn't air? No, of course not. No, you get paid for the episodes that go to air. I've shot six seasons of, and I feel like, you know, I'm not shading anyone. There's people obviously smarter than me, but whatever, you know? Yeah. But,

But in those seven years, I did do Celebrity Big Brother in England, Celebrity Big Brother All Stars, Heidi and Famous Food. We did Marriage Boot Camp. We did Celebrity Wife Swap. We did... Damn. You know, so we did a lot. You are a prince of reality. We've done a few, like...

shows and that's why i appreciate reality tv so much and why i respect everyone on shows you should produce you you have to know what you're doing i used to think that until i started making relations like real relationships like i'll say good friend of mine is now the president of production of evolution they have 12 shows they do all the real houses in orange county and when i listen to this guy's life

And I'm not trying to shade you, Mr. Baskin. No, thank you. I'd rather sell crystals and drink champagne. Like it's too much. Like it's too, it's too much. Like that frequency I can't do trying to like, it's too much. I'm not built. Like I'd rather be famous on camera, which is so hard now with all these damn tick tockers and,

I love them though but it's I will give you guys credit because you guys are popping right now as reality stars which is so hard right now shout out Kristen did help that was a good little little yeah I did speaking of Kristen she's awesome I mean I love her so so moving on when we talk about to tell you another story and then they just chose not to tell you that story I choose not to and so now next when we spoke to her she said

She was like, actually, I'm about to go out and film. How did that go? Like, you know, obviously, you're a pro and you're not going to give away anything. But when she was there, was it fun, dude? Did y'all connect like old besties or what? So she was pumped for it. And she said that you guys had come and filmed Very Cavalier or whatever. And she was going to go do an episode of your guys' show. And she was excited about it. And then we saw her out there. And so we're pumped for you guys. My only problem with that podcast, because I caught it,

it i was like why are you saying it's only one episode girl like don't let you tease like maybe it's more yeah like because i keep telling everyone i can tell like right kristen the check this girl is a effing star uncommon james was one of my favorite shows minus jay cutler who in real life i saw jay cutler and i wish i had known how much kristen didn't like him because

grown men don't disrespect me like this at a little little event that i came here to try to support your wife and like you think because you're a quarterback i won't choke you out like you want to smoke dog there's not a lot of there's not a lot of positive stuff said about him he was barely a quarterback dude he he's what all i know but like he did make 100 million it's like anybody it's hard to make money so i always yeah i always get that you get that

But I mean, like I just was on the phone with my buddy who's a billionaire today. He doesn't act like that. You know, like you don't have to act like that. It was cool to see her get out though and have fun though. I mean, she got, she came to Charleston and she had to go out with me and Austin and she had a blast and she's living her life now. She introduced Heidi and I.

Yeah, so I wanted to know about that because I know, so it's funny because, you know, Austin didn't, Austin didn't know that Kristen was a villain back then or like one of the mean girls, not mean girls, but like, I love her to death. No, dude, just say it.

I don't know. No, her billboard in Hollywood said the bitch is back. Yeah. Okay. And so billboard on sunset strip that said that when she joined back on the Hills. So that's amazing. And so he didn't know a lot of that stuff. And so I've been telling him about it because I loved Laguna beach. I love the Hills. And yeah, I just was, I was a fan boy of that stuff. And so we just started before we stopped podcasting like six months ago or

Excuse me. We started binge watching Laguna Beach to like talk about on our podcast. When you go back to it, she's not the villain at all. She's the truth speaker. She just told the truth. Yeah, she got played out. So Kristen was never the villain. She's just a real ass person. And that is she always keeps it 100. I mean, I lived with Kristen because she when she did Brody, she moved into Brody stepdad Dave Foster's.

80 billion trillion dollar palace and I lived there with them for like a long time and I was like trying to film their reality show I mean I just watched some of the footage I have the other day like another day a couple years ago with Heidi that I have and I'm like I had the best show in the world and Kristen and Brody live in this mansion together and she's a freaking star so I

I hope she gets another, like, I know people are like, she's so famous, but people still don't know Kristen. Cause even on uncommon James comes off wrong. And you know, like she will, I mean, she will like, so we, the reason we got along so well is when we, her and I met, you just get it, you get it or you don't. And you know, her and Justin were in town and we hung out and we were like, people don't understand that.

that there's a way to be good at this job. And there's also, it's not possible to be good at it if you're not born basically for it. Like a lot of people aren't good at reality TV. If you're not going to be able to be transparent and be, so I said this on a podcast the other day,

They were like, so what makes you good at reality TV or something? And I was like, this is what, here's the two differences. One, some people show up and do things that they wouldn't normally do to try to be on camera. That doesn't work. The people that are good at reality TV are the ones that are going to do exactly what they would have already been doing, even though the cameras were there. And it's like, Kristen would have been yelling at that person, even if the cameras weren't there.

And we do the same thing. But the person that shows up and all of a sudden tries to pick a fight or something to be on camera, that doesn't work. They're going to edit it out. Obviously, I don't know if I'm supposed to say this. My new thing is when I feel that I go get your storyline. Come on, get try to get your episode genius. Let's go. Let's go. Let's know. Is this your genius clip?

It's your clip. Get your clip. It's so flagrant when you just pop on. No, true. So I don't even play that anymore in real life. And they edit all around it. But I do that. I go, get your shine. Come on. You want to? That's right. That's right. And we do that, too. We do that, too. And, you know, Craig and I are about to go. Look, you know, this shit, you know, my cadet or like, you know, whatever. But maybe it won't. Maybe it's good. We have a new show. So. So, like, you know, Craig and I are. 2027.

sorry what this podcast will air in 2026 yeah exactly exactly no we'll be we'll have a show together by 2027 spencer we'll all be on the same show by then so today um i talked to a uh psychiatrist right because psych eval yeah a psych eval because i got a huge fight with my lady yesterday so craig and i are going on and so this guy he asked me and he goes so

What are some things that anger you about fellow castmates, you know, maybe, or like, you know, what do they do? And I, and I looked at them, you know, plainly and I go, the people that come on to a show and they want to make a splash and they want camera time and they want, I said, those are the worst people. And you, and you can smell them out from a mile away.

And you're like, yeah, girl. Yeah. Oh, oh, really? Because the camera in your face, I can't, I can't, I can't with you. I go, those are the worst people in the world. For,

That's where I'm at. Because that's the problem. And people all hate me. And you go back to everything I've ever done, even with the edit, it looks bad, but I always just stand in the truth and I'll go back to rewind. I'll say everything I've ever said again, because I would say, yeah, you and I are very similar people. It's like, this is what I'd say in real life. So whether it comes off wrong on television with music and edit and a sharp cut and people's

eyes and their reactions. Like, I don't care. Cause if you catch me on the street, I'm saying the same thing. Heidi still is like last night. She's like, Oh my God, I can't believe you said that, you know? And I'm like, I'll say it a hundred more times. Like, and it's like, if you want to play real, we're on a show called reality TV. I'm not playing pretend. You got to write me a different check. You want me to try to act,

Right. We're not. Yeah, that's the thing. They're like, you're not actors. Yeah. It's like, that's a bigger check and I'm not getting that. So I'm giving you great raw. Like, I'm not thinking about what I'm saying. This is how I feel. So how did, but how did you, so yeah, you were one of the OGs and you guys were great at it, but then it went away for a while. So what was that journey of getting back on the TV? Here's why it went away. My dumb ass.

When I was hiding out in my safe house, I had the president. What's his name? Hold on. Let me ask you so I get facts here. What was the president's name? I love Senator so much. It's like, babe, I need facts. It was a long time ago.

He's like, I don't know. He's literally calling me, texting me, and he's like, we want to do the Heidi and Spencer show. Can you come meet? And I'm like, you got to come out to Malibu. He's like, what? I'm like, I don't leave the house. I'm the original COVID-19 hashtag stay at home person. And he's like, you want me to drive out to Malibu? Sorry, I get more fucking texts. Sorry to your listeners. Good luck, Nick.

So, uh, I try to turn notifications off of the laptop. I don't know how to do it either. I even pretended to do it and it worked. So I text this guy back. I, you know, you have to come here. You got to see the show. Cause my pitch was I'm at a 65 freaking thousand hours a month house or the full entourage. This is the show. Come see it. So there was logic to it, but he's like, you got to come meet with my, my creative team. We got to,

So I literally said no to this VH1 show for Heidi and I. And then they end up giving it to Adrena because Mark Burnett steps in and they actually probably went to the offices and like were normal business type people. So, you know, that's when more business type people. All right. So that, so it goes away. So that was when it went away. And then for what they want. And so then every day,

So then we lived it. So thank God my parents had a beach house so we could go squatters rights on shout out. My mom was not there. Where was that? I was in Santa Barbara and it was life changing. If they didn't kick me out, I'd still be there and not be on. And so real life. So then we're there. And obviously I'm talking to God every day. Like, God, I'm supposed to be so happy.

Shut up notifications. I'm like, God, I'm supposed to be so famous. What went wrong here? And I'm always talking to God. So thank you, universe. Snapchat comes along with storing. Like storing was new. Yeah.

I was like, most people are doing the sexting. I was there right before the sexting happened. I know the sexting. And so you went in on Snapchat. I was in Santa Barbara. Well, that's when we were on your podcast. You were becoming the number one Snapchatter in the world. I actually remember that. That was even two years after that I...

Two years before that, I would Snapchat like the Truman Show. Like I didn't care. Like I see Snapchat shows you memories. I don't even share them. I'm like, oh my God. Taylor Swift, Espresso, and Hummingbird. Two years before even that. Oh, okay. I was, who is texting me this much? I need to literally be like, I'm going to block you. Stop. Stop.

Um, so I'm Snapchatting 24 seven stuff that I won't even share nowadays. Like, Oh my God, I put that stuff on there just so unfiltered. So I look back at my Snapchat numbers. I was getting 8 million views a snap before they changed the algorithm and had create like, so it would,

That's outrageous. That is absolutely outrageous. So that's what I always, when I met Evan Spiegel, I wasn't supposed to. Evan Spiegel, shout out the CEO of Snapchat. I was invited to a private event and you're not supposed to go near him. He has multiple, I mean, I'm assuming multiple bodyguards surrounding. Nobody's going near him and Miranda Kerr. I go right up to him. I get on my knee.

I bowed down. I say, thank you. You changed my life, sir. You gave me a new shot of this because everyone hated me so much. And then they got to watch me. No way. Every day. And they're like, I don't hate this guy. This guy's I understand. That's all. And let me just say that I keep on calling you Spence because I'm

I don't know. It just feels right. Or Pratt Daddy. Feels right. Pratt Daddy. Yeah. Sorry. If you don't want me to call you that, please tell me. Spence and Pratt Daddy are my two high school names. Okay, cool. Cool, cool, cool. It just feels right. It feels right to call you Spence. But no, man, that's awesome because what he just said was that he went up to like, oh, yeah. Yeah.

And, and, and, and to say that, right. Because it's like, thank you. Like you allowed people to see like, like, like an unfiltered version of me and like an unedited version. And now people are back on my side or like, you know, you know, more than not. And like, that is amazing. No, he, he,

This is fucking unbelievable. Oh, bro. They better not be texting Heidi. No, you know what it is? As mad as I am, it's because we just signed a Triller TV deal, which is really exciting. You guys should message anyone at Triller, have your agents or managers because Triller TV is making incredible deals. Triller TV is my new Snapchat. Let me just tell you that.

So I don't know what you're allowed to do, like deals right now. So this chain of texts about our new Triller TV show every Monday night at 4.30 live for 30 minutes. Shout out. So back to you. You can do all the shout outs you want. We love it. I mean, we'll get to this, but I really want to know how you got into...

So Austin and I both have, that's what the name of the podcast is, Pillows and Beers. I have the pillows, he has the beer, but you have the crystals. And you, seeing me message you over the last few years, I love that whole thing. And I kind of want to know how you started that or where it came from or what your story is, if you don't mind telling us. Let me figure out how to turn this off for Nick's life because Nick doesn't need this anxiety. Hold up. Nick is fine, dude. Nick's a pro.

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Is he hearing these beeps? I mean, probably. Yeah, but I mean, it's fine. It makes it more authentic. You yelling at the computer is the best. Yeah, that's kind of awesome. Nick, you're the man. How's your Call of Duty score? What's your Call of Duty kills? I'm not playing. I'm drinking wine, sitting by my fire and listening to you guys bitch it up. So speaking of Call of Duty, side note, Gunners, where are you? I want to see you guys, not me. What the fuck?

Whatever. We're here. Just click that. I see you. Trust me, dude. You're full on center for us. You're a little box. It's being a call of duty, Nick.

So Gunner's godfather is a 25-year Delta Force A squadron leader they sent after bin Laden on the only singleton mission that the government ever did where they send one guy, try to take a hit out on bad guy that's sanctioned by the government. So nothing gets me harder than this.

And I'm trying to talk him into doing, because he does Coach's Eye for all his gun training. I'm trying to have him Coach's Eye, the Call of Duty. These guys, I think they're so hardcore. I'm like, go in and narrate how they just get murked out and how this doesn't work in real life because he's called all due respect, Nick. There are guys that do call me like, I'm a commando. Oh, please. I know, but pussy, you're okay. Nick, where'd I go? Get me back. Nick did something. Come on, Nick. Nick.

Come on, man. Jump in. Jump in. Nick, tell us. Nick, jump in real quick. Tell us how things are going and tell us about Call of Duty. No, but my point is technical-wise because they're so like these guys get 100 million views. They're like I want him to coach his eye to show like if you go stand here, you're dead. You go – like so I think he could have – So there's already some guys that do that. There's a bunch of like experts react videos on YouTube where it's like former –

Special Forces guys, he could easily do a show like that where it's, you know, they watch the game and you're like, yeah, by the way, if you do this, you're immediately dead.

Oh, and do those get views? Oh, yeah. Big time. That's what I was telling him. I was like, yeah. So you got the idea, Spencer. You have the idea. And that's actually interesting because I was like, you need to get this call due to the world. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure that there are guys out there that I love champagne so much. It's Friday night. I love everything about this. I love champagne. I really do. I'm not freaking the brand of beer that you guys slang is because I don't drink IPAs, but

And I didn't send beer here to teammate here. Brad, I'd be like, you better keep them everywhere you go. You never see me without a Pratt. Yeah. I'm going to start wrapping spotlight with chop pop labels. It's real life. So totally. Yeah. A pillow behind that chair. When you buy, like you got to get on. We will tell you, Spencer, we are, we are doing pro stuff this week. So when we start filming this new show next week, cause we're technically quarantining right now.

I will tell you the best next move you should do is come out with your, a new spinoff of your beer, the biodynamic version of your beer to get into air one stores in California. What is air one to me? Air one is like Google it later. Vanny fair will pop up air like no wand, like a wand, like a Harry Potter wand. It's,

All I know is if you're not a supermodel famous purse, there's not, you go into air one is it's more popping than a nightclub. It's easier than you can comprehend. It's Raya for grocery shopping. You will meet more potential suitors in an air one than you ever would on ride. Wait, we forgot. We forgot to sue you. So Spencer, we, what is it called? Spencer, how much time do you have?

I got all night. He has another bottle. There's going to be a special... I got three bottles for this podcast. Spencer, there's going to be a special episode we're going to do when our guests have been sorted. This is like an eight-question thing that he'll read you on the computer. Wait, tell us... When Austin's pulling this up, why don't we... I do want to hear about... Hold on. So,

So I do want to hear about this though Spencer Give us a quick You don't have to tell us about it all because we'll talk about it later But give us a quick rundown On you know when all of that shit Was happening in your life Did that have any effect in getting into crystals Or where does that connect to this story So here real quick

Bay City's if you're ever in LA has the best sandwich, you wait one hour for this Italian deli sandwiches in Santa Monica, probably been there 40 years. So, Heidi and I are waiting back this by 2008 2009, we're waiting for a Bay City sandwich I've grown up with these is you like, there's not a person in LA doesn't know Bay City's is.

Across the street, I see this giant rock. It looks like a big, giant rock. And we're sitting there waiting our 45 minutes to get our sandwich. I'm like, I'm going to go buy that rock. That's dope. So I run across the street, give my Amex, scan it, don't look at it. Keep in mind, I'm making millions. Run back across the street.

When you're making millions, you have a business manager, not an agent, not a manager, not a lawyer, a business manager that also takes 5%. The business manager calls me like, there's fraud on your credit card. Somebody just ran $75,000 on your card. I go, what are you talking about? And they're like, blah, blah, blah. So I'm like, oh, no, no, I bought that. And they're like, so you want this? I'm like, yeah, I want this.

And they're like, we are going to advise that this isn't a good, I'm like, Hey, I want this. Like, shut up. So tell me what to do. Yeah. Like, so that's my first crystal is a 3000 pound. It's in our living room right now. And I put laser lights and this was a disco crystal and it flashes lights like craziest thing you've ever seen. The guy was a great salesman. He told me it was from a volcano in Peru and it was floating in the lava and

probably all BS, but I love it. So that's my first crystal. And what did you think that that was worth though? Like, you know, when you bought it, you didn't care.

three grand five oh yeah yeah you know it was a big sure sure sure it was like a big ass thing it was a car look right and you were sitting there like yeah this thing's probably like you know 5k or something yeah it's a big rock like i didn't like rock like i didn't think rocks were this expensive so i get that and then i'm like dang i'm into crystals and heidi's convinced this crystal started attracting more crystals like a generator type vibe

So then I'm buying crystals. It is what it is. And then Heidi has a few minor plastic surgery procedures. And that's how the surgeon pitched it to her. Minor, little this, little that. I heard it. It sounded like we're getting a coffee and a latte and we're out same day. Wrong. Heidi was like, she jumped out a seven story building and I'm playing nurse to the most horrific vanilla sky vibe experience ever.

Next thing you know. Yeah, so it's just traumatic surgery. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. So any listeners that any doctor ever tells you minor procedure, do some more research. There's no such thing as when they cut you up. It's not minor. So we're in overhead. She's in so much pain. I'm like freaking out. Painkillers aren't working. I start Googling because now I'm into crystals. Like what crystal will help her pain?

I find a crystal called sujelite. I'm like, this one says it has pain. So I go buy a 15 K chunk of sujelite. Heidi holds this crystal first night in days, sleeps all night long. I'm like, this shit's magical. Fuck yeah. Like I'm going to buy an all these, like I turn into Harry Potter in real life. Like these things have magical powers all in, you know,

Well, where did you buy? Where did you get those? Where did you get that crystal from? Like, where were you buying these from? There's crystals. Like once you get in the crystal world, you realize like I'm buying in the same shop. Elizabeth Taylor was buying at like crystals are so expensive. You don't realize that like really,

Rich people are the ones buying all the crystals. Everyone else thinks it's like hippie stoners. They're buying, all due respect, basic crystals. The ones that are in museums and stuff, rich billionaires, celebrities, famous people are buying these crystals. I spent $2 million probably on crystals. I don't know if you remember, but I...

I dated this girl in New York last year or two years ago and in their living room was a million dollar crystal and the only person I thought of to send the picture was to you and I'll have to go back to my messages but I sent you the picture Austin you remember that crystal in that house there's there's a million dollars like I've said no to multiple meals like so people are like oh he's a hippie crazy weird I'm like these are

These are millions of dollars, you morons. Like rich people are buying these. Like I'm not stupid. Like I may look stupid, but shit is rich people shit. So after that, I was all in. So Heidi, so wait, tell us about that crystal that changed your guy's life because that changed the direction. That one was, that one was sujelite. And where did, where is that from? Or what kind of, tell us a little bit about it. I used to know all these, but my brain cells at this point. Oh, it's fine. Well, we'll cut that. I'm like less than Snapchat.

I can watch it for 24 hours. Yeah, you're good. So Heidi has this crystal and you're like, fuck it. Yeah, and then that point is when I went off the, you know, I lost it. And then I turned into like... Is it because you wanted to share it with people? I wouldn't go into like a restaurant, like an expensive restaurant without my crystal wand. And I would set an intention and make a portal. And I'm like... Oh my God, this is awesome. This is...

Oh my god. Wait, so wait. Hold on, hold on. I just want people to know that what he's doing right now is like he's doing like a doorway motion. He's kind of doing like a doorway motion. With an actual crystal wand in my hand though. How the fuck do we get crystal wands? I don't know.

Oh, they're so expensive. You can buy them. Dude, Austin just opened up his laptop and he was like, after we sorted Craig on Harry Potter last night, he was drunk as fuck. And on his Google was wands. I was trying to buy wands. Very expensive. How much money do you think you have in crystals in your house?

I mean, it sounds like a home invasion. I know. I know. I know. I know, dude. You're a zero. I was like, someone's like, no, not someone. Yeah. You just told us the government's watching. They're like, hello? Zero dollars. Yeah. We'll say how much. So I have spent millions and millions of dollars. Yeah. That's fucking crazy.

So did you see it as kind of a purity thing where you wanted to share crystals with people? No, I was trying to outpower the Illuminati. I was like, I'm going to get all the crystals and be more powerful. Growing up, I wanted to be in the Illuminati. And then I found out how dark it is and what really goes down because of Heidi. Because she brought in the light and the positive. And now she's like...

So then I turned, cause like I did all the steps to like be on the dark side. Okay. And then I turned me like, this is star Wars shit, you know, like, so Illuminati, is that a West coast thing? Cause we don't hear about it on the East coast really.

The Illuminati is all around us. I mean, there's different levels. Like I could have been on like a lower tier of it. I don't, you have to be a billionaire to be like, or a trillionaire to be on the real deal tier, but there's people on the like,

Yeah, let's just say I know. Oh, shit. You know, like, like, it's actually knows members. Spencer knows this shit. There is a where it is going on. So scary that you're like, see, no, what's funny is there's a reason he was in a $65,000 safe house. And Austin makes fun of me when I want to have a safe house. We'll turn my game down. If I'm like, I had my fucking phone. So, but here's what set me off.

Here's what set me off though. Austin and I are going to get in a fist fight in front of you right now. Here's the background. Was your lawyer murdered? Was your plastic surgeon murdered? Things were happening where people around us, our team was getting taken out. And we also did things that I'm not going to put it out there again, but people know we talked about things you don't talk about in the media. You know what I mean? Like

Yeah, we'll just... No, that makes sense, but just tell... So, all right. I love all of that. I have a question for you. Okay. Just a very quick question, and it's totally unrelated, and you're going to laugh. Okay. In...

in... No, no, we're not starting this. I just want this question before we start. Hold on. Phoenix, dragon, or unicorn? Which one? I'm going to say a phoenix because I bought the most expensive glass-blown phoenix water pipe from the most famous water pipe maker in the world. And I had a phoenix in California. It's legal to smoke kush. So I had a phoenix, the most

It was probably 10 to 15K glass-blown Phoenix at my house. Jesus, you spent some money. And my homie chopped off its head accidentally. And I was like, you're the devil, dawg. You just killed my Phoenix. You didn't even get to rise. Just spent money, dude.

We're coming out to California to headlock. You gotta realize, we're making a million dollars a year selling our own paparazzi photos at this time. What? Dude, he's a genius, Austin. You didn't know this guy was Spencer. I'm a maniacal genius. I think Prince is when I was... I'm the youngest executive producer of reality television in history. That's a fact.

Like I started at 20 years old. I'm 37. I've been grinding like the amount of money and I love living life. And people are like, do you have regrets? I'm like, no, I'll do everything I can. Like my life is incredible. It's like, no, I have no money in my bank account right now, but that's COVID's fault. But you know, I love my life and it's incredible. That's amazing. No, I love all of that. It makes me super happy. So just so we can cross,

Not this box, but how did you turn the crystals into a business? Heidi said, yo, stop spending our money on crystals. You have...

She was like, it's done. You're done. Like, I mean, we're at a thousand plus crystal, you know, like I get her. She was right. You know, she's always right. I wish I listened to her more. And so it's like, she's like, why don't you sell your crystals you have? And then you can buy new. I'm like, I'm not selling my crystals that I have like Gollum, you know?

And so she's like, so then my pitch to her is what if I buy a lot of crystals and then I sell those crystals and then I keep the ones that don't sell. Right. She's like, that sounds like a good deal.

So this is again, before they changed the algorithm on Snapchat and before you had to like, they had, now they sell ads. So algorithm is different. You know, he's selling, once the algorithm turns into ads where they want you to buy ads to get promo, it's a wrap. So this is pre, this is back when I'm getting 8 million views, a snap plus maybe, maybe more. Like I have screenshots of these because as evidence of the level. So,

So I went on Snapchat and I was like, yo, I just got all these crystal necklaces. Who wants one? I think I sold them all in a millisecond. It's a hundred crystals, right? So now I'm buying 200. So next thing I'm buying 3000 crystals and I'm selling them all. And I'm bubble wrapping them myself with a Sharpie, no website, selling each one in my DM saying, what do you want? PayPal? You want Venmo? Doing all this. People start DMing. Hey, you need a website genius. I'm like, okay.

What do you mean? Like, have you heard of Shopify? I'm like, no. You're like, who said that? I will come to your house and kill you. Yeah. What's actually a good idea? What is that? Yeah. Fuck you, asshole. So then I get a Shopify and then it gets crazy.

So then I hire my favorite barista, shout out Omar, who's at my coffee shop because I love Omar. I'm like, dude, I'll pay you more to come package my crystals and help me. I love that. So I bring Omar in at the house. We're doing this all on the dining room table. Next, now we're at...

we need more than Omar. So then I hire my favorite Snapchatter, this girl Mackenzie, who was a star. And I'm like, she's a hustler. She's trying to do all these auditions and she's trying to do Amazon prime. And I watch her, she's grinding. I'm like, you want to grind for real? Come to Pratt.com. So then she comes over. So we got Mackenzie, Omar,

We get to 15 employees, like maybe more. Like I can think of 15. There's probably more. But you can't make crystals, right? Like where are you getting that? I was doing 320K a month pre-COVID. But can you make these? Congratulations, by the way. It's amazing. COVID murdered me though. Now it's like I'm back to square one. But where are you getting these crystals?

All over the world. So they're just natural. Here's how incredible life is. When I was like 10 years old, this kid that lived down the street from me that I would hang out with, all due respect to Peter, I didn't appreciate him. He was too smart. Peter was too smart. I'll tell that to his face. It was hard to be friends with Peter because he was too smart. So I don't know if Peter works for the CIA or not, but Peter now lives in Africa.

and having somebody in the ground like you can actually whatsapp with and talk to in africa gives you the edge on the entire game because you know people are like are these blood diamonds but no it's like no i i see all the stories i see the the like i see like also they're not diamonds yeah they're not diamonds they're crystals they're not diamonds they're crystals technically diamonds are crystals that's what people don't get but

Um, so I have Peter, my plug now where I'm beating everyone in America. If Peter's in the CIA, you probably shouldn't tell everyone about Peter and the CIA.

He knows I tell him that. So recently in Nigeria, there was like a hostage rescue hit with seal team six. And I messaged Peter. I'm like, I know this is you. And he writes back. I like to think I had something to do with it. I'm like, you told me I knew it. Like Spencer, you don't Spencer. I'll tell you that I'm the biggest fan of special forces and I have connections to it too. And Austin knows that when we're in a bar, uh,

And I'm able to point, I'm usually able to pick out if someone's in a bar in Charleston that isn't from there and I'll go up and I'll see their tattoos and I'll be like, are you guys service guys? No, dude. Craig is like the first one. Like I go to the bathroom. I come back. I'm like, where'd Craig go? And he's like hitting on service dudes. Yeah. I'm a huge fan boy of SF. I am the guy and I call myself a mall Ninja. I've always been like,

The problem is my dad worked hard. He's a dentist, you know, but I had a good life. Like he's not like a billionaire or whatever. He worked hard and I had a great life. So there was no logic for me to go like risk my life to die for America. I was like, shit, I love the Palisades. So, but I've always felt like a pussy if you're not doing it, but yeah, exactly. But I read every book that's ever written about. So exactly. You both need to follow Gunner's godfather.

At SOB Tactical. Because he's the real deal. And then you need to read the book. Kill Bin Laden. About him. Because that's how I know him. Because I read this book. And I wrote to the author. Who was the commander of all Delta Force.

the entire world. And I said, because I want to do a reality show about this guy, Shrek, because he was the only guy that did a singleton mission in the history of Delta Force. And I was like, I want to make Dog the Bounty Hunter, but where Dog the Bounty Hunter goes after terrorists. So I was like, this is the guy I need. So I hit up this guy. It's now eight years ago. And I'm like, I call or email the author and I'm like, can you connect me with Shrek? He's like, I don't know if Shrek will talk to you, but I'll tell you.

Shrek calls me and I'm like, Shrek, please come out to LA. So we go to Nat Geo. We pitch him. Nat Geo's awesome.

all in. We're about to do a docuseries about Shrek hunting real terrorists around the world. Dog, the bounty hunter style ends up, this is super illegal. Even if you're a terrorist in another country, we can't come film grabbing you and snatching you. So the show doesn't happen, but we become best friends because he loves drinking. I love drinking. He's a great guy. We're great guys. So now it's eight years later. We're best friends. He had no social media. We're

We're at the bed. I take him to the Beverly Hills hotel. I'm like, we want to sit at Tom Cruise's table. Like we want to feel the vibe. I grab his phone. I'm like, I'm going to make you an Instagram account. And this was very risky. I've been drinking some reckless and he's like, I'm a fucking knock you out or whatever he said. I'm like, whatever you got to do, I'm making you in a social media, whatever you got to do, bro.

You need an Instagram, dude. I'm exposing you. Do what you gotta do, but I'm making you an Instagram account. Now he has like 270,000 followers. We're following him now. He's booked. He likes SOB tactical. What's your favorite gun, Spencer? I mean, I only do whatever he tells me. So you're not biased towards a gun. It's like what he tells me. Is there anything better than shooting a gun?

So here's the backstory off the record. Craig, don't even do it. Oh, John. I like Gunny T, bro. I'm following him right now. Out of every guy you've ever met, this dude is the realest. Like, trust me. I had seven years of reading every book. All I did is sit on the beach, read fiction, nonfiction.

He's the real deal. He's the scariest human to live right now. Like everyone hyped seal team six. He wouldn't even talk to a seal team six guy. You can't even be part of his Delta force, a squadron. There's three squadrons, a, B and C. He's the Sergeant major of a squadron. This guy is like, he's a real deal. Rambo real life. Coolest do out drink any of us. And then you tell him that you're going to make him an Instagram. And he's like, I'm not even supposed to be here.

I made it and I made it. And now he thanks me for it. And I also made him a Snapchat when he Snapchatted, he was the best Snapchatter. You want to know what's really funny is that, is that I just look up this cat and I started following him. And then I was like, all right, you know, who does he follow?

And he doesn't follow you, Spence. So I was like, wait, shit. Do I follow Spence? You just broke Spencer's heart. No, no, no. Bullshit. Let me finish. No, no, no. Hold on. Just listen. So then I looked up Spence and I was like, no, I do follow him. And then I looked at who Spence follows. He only follows Justin. He doesn't follow Kristen. He doesn't follow me. He doesn't follow you. He doesn't follow me. He follows me.

Yeah, but Spencer, you don't follow me. I follow Justin. I follow 2,000 people. I just unfollowed everyone. You don't follow me, though. I follow you. No, no. All right, all right, all right. That wasn't the point. I just thought it was funny. No, no. I reset my following because I was like, I'm not going to follow all these people. The point is that it was funny that you were following me.

I was like, wait, do I follow him? And I was like, yeah, I follow him. How many followers do you have? How many people do you follow? I'm followed by 682. I think I followed, I think 1200. I'll tell you right now. I followed 1530.

400. I saw it last night. I follow 1531 now because I just followed your boy. So no, but how many people do you follow? Okay. Yes. Spencer follows like 460. I think I saw it last night. Hold on. Rewind. How many people?

I follow 147 people. So that was my new thing. I unfollowed everybody because I was like, I'm going to start. 148 now. He just followed someone. He followed Craig. He followed Craig first. I just saw that. You're not popping up. You're not popping up, dog. You're not popping up. No, dude. The dumb fucking name. Remember Spencer in our podcast? Stop. I'm going to tell Spencer. Stop. I'm going to tell him. I'm going to tell him. You're a shadow band.

Spencer, so when we were on your podcast, do you remember what you told Austin? Because you were trying to... You were so mad at me, dude. How do you spell Austin, Steven? No, you were trying to tell him how to get followers, and you asked us... K-R-O-L-L. Remember? How do you spell it? K-R-O-L-L. Just fucking let me tell... Oh, that's my last name, dog. Spencer, remember...

It's Kroll the Warrior King And you were like that's so stupid You were mad at me We're back to that story We are dude You need my contact to Instagram To fix that Cause like Kroll the Warrior King Doesn't even pop up dog Yes it does Kroll is the first thing that pops up I just searched it Look at this Bullshit Type in K-R-O-L-L

You know what? I don't want followers. So what we need though... I'm going to give you my contact at Instagram, Facebook, and he'll get you your name. You need your name, dog. Spencer is now... Spencer is now sitting in the dark. I'll turn on the light. Spencer is now sitting in the dark because too many people are picked up on this communication. ...

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You know what? I'm not going down this path again with Spence, dude. I'm not going down this path again. No, back to like, remind me tomorrow to email my juice at Instagram, Facebook. We'll get your name, dog. You could have your like fake name be the warrior King. Oh yeah. Austin's all like, but heard about the fact that he has a glorified cosmetic Instagram name. Craig.

You're an idiot first off and second off. No, I'm eight seasons in year four. Or seven or four.

Anyway, but the reality is, here's let me give you the best. Here's let me give you the most. You sound like Shep right now. You're giving me money. Let me give you facts. Austin, I'm here with you and not Shep, aren't I? I obviously like you more. Let me give you facts. I'll give you facts. This is Hollywood right here. I want F-A-X and I want Craig to die. Big facts.

Hollywood is what have you done for me lately? Okay. So four seasons versus eight seasons doesn't mean anything. You could come in one season. Your ex-girlfriend, Madison, what's her name? Madison LaCroix. She came in with...

for all I know for what my brain Heidi knows better than me she's the one to me I think she's on one season and she upstaged all due respect what's her name Catherine who was eight seasons I'm sorry Catherine you're a star but like it's what have you done for me lately that's the problem with this industry and why you gotta work hard so you can't even do the four verse eight it's thank you thank

you bro that's a fact if y'all Craig to check himself and realize he was a skinny little Adderall freak and no one cared about him people literally like me five more seasons no no it didn't the fact you probably like crying hold on we're gonna get back on track because we have a really fun track yeah because we all have to be but I know well yeah I'm gonna sorry I know so Spencer waiting I just

Tess pulled up. Craig wants to talk. Real talk, real life. I followed both of you. I unfollowed 3,000 people to start my account over because I was like, there's 3,000 people I don't like. All due respect. Spencer, it's fun. We love you. This is great. No one fought me on it. Austin didn't fight me or nigger anyone, but I was just like, remember how much fun we did with Spencer and Heidi?

they could come on here and it's great. So what I want to hear though, and I think our viewers is every time listeners, our listeners are, yeah, see, I'm learning, but even when we had Kristen and I can hear Austin pissing in the background, um,

I just, before we sort you in the house and continue to go into all that fun stuff, give us a real quick rundown on how you took that crystal business or all your passion for crystals and your family shit to a business. Because a lot of people want to know how to take their side hustle to a business, which I've done with pillows. Austin's done with beers. You do with crystals. And maybe if you could just give us a quick rundown on how you were like,

I mean, I know you said Heidi was like, you have to get these out of the house, but what was your, do you have any tips for anyone or how you turned it into a business? No, I have no tips because I'm the worst business person ever to exist in the world. And don't listen to anything I say. What my only thing that I've done is I only sell things that I want to keep myself. So I actually hope they don't sell. Cause then Heidi's like, okay, it didn't sell. You can have it. So my business model is have a product,

that you love so much that you wanna-- - Hey, I mean, well, no, that's the same as investing in stocks. When I was little, my dad was like,

what do you like greg video games disney and you buy the stocks that you like so that's i i only would ever also spotify i'll go to court with anybody and sit in front of a judge and jury and be like that crystal you bought i'd wear that i keep that it's hot it's drip so passion for your product you love your product you

better be able to really back it up. I'll fight anyone that this, like you have a better pendant than me. No way. I've been buying crystals since 2008. I spent millions on crystals. I know what's hot. So you're a better business person. Yeah. Yeah. That's the lesson right there. You're like, I'll fight anybody. Don't sell something that you don't love. Exactly. Yeah. Like Austin loves his beer. Everyone always tells me how much easier and how much money I'd make.

If I sold crystals that were not one of one, every crystal I sell is a one-on-one. That's right. When you get, there's not another one, but there's tons of stuff from China, all respect, China, all respect, India, that everyone on Etsy shops and Amazon rainbow. Why are you crying? Yeah, but there's the lit. There's the lesson. You didn't think you had a lesson, Heidi. There's the lesson of the crystals.

Are you guys on TikTok yet? I love body-ody-ody. Oh, look. Heidi can dance. Heidi can dance. The body-ody dance. Oh, no, no, no. Don't worry. We all know that Heidi can dance. Get ready for this season. We watch her TikToks. We watch her TikToks. There you go. Heidi put Cardi B out of business this season. I love it. I was at the VMA, so I pray to God they're... And then my shirt pops off, but I have like...

Well, I will say, Heidi, hopefully Spencer's okay with this. I think he would be. Heidi, the picture that I saw that made the gossip site today, you looked hot.

Thank you. What was the gossip sites? The gossip sites where Heidi put up a picture about positive body image stuff. Yeah, people are calling Heidi pregnant and I'm like, no, she's hot. She's like getting all these messages. I'm like, you have body. Look, this is weird. That's the problem with girls now. They're all anorexic. They're all bony.

This is weird. Hold on. Hold on. You know when you zoom in on people's pictures because you actually stop scrolling and you take the picture and you zoom in, as weird as that sounds? Heidi, you might have gotten a zoom in from me on my feed. Cheers. Check out my OnlyFans. Yes!

I'm not, I'm not naked. I'm not naked. I'm not naked. Yeah. So you know what? After I had my first child, I didn't feel sexy at all. Like I literally was a mom for a year straight breastfeeding, didn't put on makeup. And then after the second year, the Hills kind of kicked me into having to move forward. And then the third year I'm like, I feel I've ever been, I will fuck my husband harder than I ever have. He has

I ever have like a sex is my priority. Sexy being sexy, feeling myself, feel my husband prioritizing that because as a mom, you get so consumed in that. It's like, these kids are going to be gone and I need to, I'm in my prime. I'm not going to be this hot for this long. Like I need a boss up, enjoy it, you know, put it all out. So no, that's amazing. And I love that. So did you guys always have each other's backs as a ride or die through all this? Oh,

Always. We've never, we would never ever say anything against each other. You couldn't pay us any amount of them, any money in the world. We're Bonnie and Clyde to the end. Like fuck everyone else. That's so awesome. That's what, that's what's hard to find. That's it. That's it. Heart just broke. Yeah. Austin's like real talk. I would not be married right now if I didn't meet Heidi. You know, like you guys think your bachelor's already.

I would have never had a girlfriend. Like you're a gunner. Like I'd put on his socks every day. Like, I think it's so important to like love your husband. And I love, I know it's so controversial, but I love roles. Like I love being a wife and I love being domestic. And I love my husband to be like a strong man. You know, like I think that those roles are great and important if that's part of your relationship. I don't think it's controversial. If you choose that, that's what people don't understand. There always has to be so many extremes, but if that works for you guys, it's,

It's fine. If someone else, they want to do something else, it's fine. No one has to do anything. Like we get yelled at all the time I have because of this pillow thing. And everyone's like, you should have a nine to five. And I'm like, I'm not going to do something just because someone a hundred years ago did it and told everyone it was normal. And so I think it's personal choice. Totally.

You are owning it. You are boss. I think that's amazing. Whoa, whoa. I just, I, God just hit me with, sorry, I got to interrupt. Sorry, Heidi. God just hit me with the Holy spirit. I just got a message from God. You turn the bath off. Are you religious person ready for the next level? I could go pull it out of the room to show you.

Hey, Heidi, we're about to sort Spencer into his house for Harry Potter. We're about to sort him. Oh, I can't wait. Wait, I got to wait. Okay, let me do that. No, no, we have eight questions. All right, all right, all right. I'll let you know. What do you think he is, Heidi, before we do it? Huff and puff. Oh, see, Austin thinks that I think he's a Slytherin only because of TV. Oh, Austin. Well, actually, he's Huff and puff. It sounds like the Kush house. Huff and puff. Huff and puff.

are the most powerful wizards besides Dumbledore so it's just a different side but they're not technically bad so we all you guys are gonna have lots of sex that was so hot baby number two might be made tonight this whole entire book series I'm the real life wizard of all these people alright goodnight Gunner hey Gunner what's up Gunner

How old are you, Gunner? I'm three. Gunner. What's your middle name? Gunner Stonecraft. Gunner Stonecraft. Gunner. That is a cool name, Gunner. Good night, Gunner. Good night, buddy.

He's like, no, he's one of the fam. Spencer, he's your son. He wants the limelight. So he wants the limelight, dude. Gunner is how smart he is. So we just had a cast trip and we tried to like our nanny got in a car accident. So we had to be like hands on more than ever while filming. And we're like, if you listen to what these producers are saying,

He's called work. You get toys. So yesterday we're filming at the house and he sees all the cameras. He's like, I want to work. And we're like, you want to work? Yeah, I want to work. You're like, you want to work? He's like, he's like walkie talkie. He's calling like the mic pack to walk. I'm like, give him walkie talkie. They put like the walkie talkie to him. He's like, I

I work for Spinosaurus. I'm like, you want to work with Spinosaurus? You can get your Spinosaurus. And he's asking all the crew, like, what are you working for, Spinosaurus? Also? Or like, everyone's like, yeah. And he's like, everyone's with Spinosaurus. That's amazing. That is amazing. That's really cool. Do you get to tell us where your Castro was or no? Tahoe. I don't care. Oh, fuck it. I called the paparazzi. I brought the paparazzi there. It's on Daily Mail. Tahoe.

You also need to step up your game on calling paparazzi. Well, we don't know it because we're in Charleston where there isn't paparazzi. Text me after. Yeah, we'll figure out our paparazzi. All we do is go get drunk at local bars. Every scene you shoot should be Pat.

Send fucking paparazzi to Stowe, please. You're blowing it. They're already there. These big agencies reach out to like independent photographers and then they shoot it and then they license out. So anything that's outdoor should always be photographed. We're going to be snowboarding and I don't want to snowboard if there's not paparazzi there. You shouldn't do anything with

I'm not hitting any backflips if there's not paparazzi there. You should never have a camera crew with you and not have paparazzi. And still it begins. I used to get trolled and be called a fame whore and tell Jay-Z so eloquently rapped, call the paparazzi on myself. I'm like, oh, you're doing me now, Jay-Z? Like,

Oh, okay. Okay. Cause I was called some like desperate fame whore, but Jay-Z can rap about calling the Bob Rossi on himself. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Jay-Z.

All right. Let's do it. God, I love that. That's amazing. I don't want this to ever end. That's on Genius Lyrics. Google it. All right. Spence, Spence, I'm going to ask you some questions because I've been waiting for this, dude. I just want to. Well, and I told Austin that it would take too long, and I didn't say you'd be bored, but I was like, I don't know if Spencer would be down. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. I got nothing to do. Some of these are really funny, okay? We're legitimately in a hotel room.

Okay, I'm going to break it down for you in muggle terms because that's what you are. You're a muggle. It means you're a non-magical person. All right. During an exam, you notice that one of your classmates was cheating, right? I'm breaking it down. It says something different. But you come out top of the class anyways, but they come second. What do you do? Do you tell – okay, so you find out that someone was cheating. Okay.

You finished first. I finished second. Do you tell the professor immediately? Cheating is wrong no matter what. Nothing. But if I hadn't come top of the class, I'd definitely tell the professor. Encourage them to admit what they'd done to the professor or give them a high five for managing to sneak the quill into the exam.

Well, I 100% was better at cheating than them. They don't know I cheated. So I'm assuming I'd give them a high five. Yeah, totally. You totally would. I could have answered that for you. That was good. Is this the right test? Okay, yeah. You would be most hurt if a person called you weak, ignorant, unkind, or boring. I feel like he's going to say boring. Yeah, boring. Nice. Fuck you. How dare you?

okay you're locked in a duel okay because we're in harry potter world you're locked in a duel with the skilled opponent they fire an unknown okay well you're not going to know this just say okay they fire an unknown spell at you and you shout well do you can you describe what they okay um expelliarmus means that that you tell me god i'm nerding out hard but you're married to one so just deal with it okay um

So we're dueling and I'm like, blah. And then you say, Expelliarmus means that you knock the wand out of my hand. Okay. Like either you disarm me. Stupify means that like you knock me back and I'm kind of, you know, dazed for a minute.

uh crucio oh man that's an unforgivable curse that means that like you make me go into unbelievable pain and i'm just like writhing on the ground top 60 villains in the country don't mess with my fucking wand yes don't fucking touch my wand

unless you're my wife i want you to go into excruciating pain and just die okay okay so so so when you go to hogwarts you go there for seven years okay it's your fifth year at hogwarts right so so you're like a junior ish and you've just received

you just received a howler okay a howler i'm gonna tell you both it's when your family they send you a letter and then the letter opens and yells at you and it's like fuck you spencer i cannot believe that you just did this blah blah blah is that a real thing and it yells at you in front of your friends it embarrasses you talk like for instance like in big brother they like the big

deal when we're in England, big brother is everyone wanted their family letter. I didn't even read mine. So I won't even open that shit. I'm going to watch that tonight. Oh, you want to get entertained. You watch Heidi's friends. I don't know how you'll find it. Celebrity big brother in England. Was she on there with you or just you? Yes. We lived in the house together with British people. We're the only Americans we represent.

But if someone got kicked off, could they kick one of you off? Or was it a couple getting kicked off? No, we were a team. We're a team. So we got second. We're the first Americans ever to get second. And it was rigged. And the guy that got first ended up becomes the Ryan Seacrest of England. It was totally rigged. But like, you want content, you go watch us on Big Brother. You never see anything like it your whole life. You know what? I don't care.

I'm going to. I don't know if you'll be able to find it. You may find some clips. You may find some clips, but it's hard to find. It's like dark web shit. I don't know. I'm a little hacker guy. Hold on. Hold on. Okay. So it's your fifth year. You received a howler, right? What for? Okay. So what are your parents yelling at you for? Yeah, yeah. That's the question. What are your parents yelling at you for? Okay. Sneaking into the forbidden forest. Just take it for what it is. Sneaking into the forbidden forest. Yeah, yeah.

at night on a day. They got apples? Getting caught cheating on a test. Being put in detention after you were caught in the library after hours. Not having sex. Clearly for sneaking into the forest because you're a cunt. One of these Dumbledore quotations. Tell him what Dumbledore is. I know. He's the fucking guy. He's the old guy.

He is BDE to the max. All right. So which one of these double-decker quotes speaks to you?

All right. Quote one. This podcast is going top five. This podcast is going top five. Kristen, wait. No, no. Wait, do you guys have advertisers yet or is this a free podcast? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You haven't done one ad yet. Okay. On that note, thank you, Spencer. We're going to take a quick commercial break and we'll be right back. Welcome back to episode five of Pillows and Beer with the one and only Spencer Pratt.

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It does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live. Quote three, it matters not who someone is born, but what they grow to be. Quote four, words are, in my not so humble opinion, our most inexhaustible source of magic. That's why I wanted you to close your eyes. I'm going to go with three. Three. It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, dude. It's a good one, man. I like that. Talk about how psycho you are that you just read those out of order. Yeah, yeah. You're a fucking psycho, man. Yeah, I had to. I went 1, 4, 3, 2. Yeah. Yeah, you're a fucking... Just to, like, trick myself. I love that he brought me the bottle, though.

So when Spencer was like, there's number three, I was like, I just got to get a baby. I got that one. He's trying to take advantage of me. Okay. Which of these most accurately describes your relationship with your closest friends? Who's your closest friend? I don't have friends. Good. I hate everyone too. Especially Craig. Okay. Literally. Like I have a couple of the off camera and out of the industry, but like, if you're famous, you are the fakest friend ever. Like, well, I appreciate you guys so much. That's why Craig's my best friend.

No real life. Austin has a best friend. That's not on our show. And I have, there's jealous people that like, can't handle you getting, it's true. I live with like, I'm around people with cameras. I'm like, God, like I want you to win. How do you not want me to win? It's such a weird. I'm also, are you not seeing that? It's amazing. Of course. Okay. So I don't even have to ask you this question because basically the answer that most describes you is this, um,

I tend to be wary around new people. So don't make new friends often. That's what describes you. Yeah. Done. Okay. No, I don't need to. Okay. I thought we were done with that one. Yeah. Yeah. Fine. It means done. Okay. Okay. How about this? Does this describe Spencer? I'd love surrounding myself with people. The more friends I have, the better. It doesn't mean he doesn't. I have very few close friends that I would trust with my life. Okay. No. Okay. Okay.

I tend to be wary around new people. So don't make new friends often. Facts. Okay. I find myself becoming friends with people who can help me to succeed. No. Okay. So then the third one. Okay. No, that's it. Okay. Which, which of your skills are you most proud of? My ability to absorb new information, my ability to make new friends, my ability to get what I want, my ability to keep secrets. Three. Your ability to get what you want. No, no. Do those again. Okay. Okay.

I'm not going to say like ability. So absorb new information, make new friends, get what I want or keep secrets. Absorb information. Nice. Okay, cool. Cool. Cool. Off the cuff. Okay. Now the sport in Harry Potter world is called Quidditch, right? You're on a broomstick. You throw a ball around, you catch a snitch.

Okay. The first game of the season is approaching and you can't wait to get involved. What role are you playing? Okay. Do you want the person that wins the match? Do you want the person that likes to be involved and work as part of the team? Do you like having all the power or do you want to be in the crowd?

wins the match yeah of course you're a fucking seeker who's not gonna say that's up front yeah yeah dude that's the guy that you know catches it and you're allowed a pet at hogwarts owl cat or toad which do you bring there's also a fourth uh answer that says nothing i can't be trusted to look after the pet yeah i have four dogs so a cat or a toad

Which one? Gunner loves frogs. I'm going to go with toads. Cool. I love that. That's a unique answer. I would never in a million years say toad. It's Saturday. Toads and shit.

I liked frogs as a kid. It's Saturday. You finished your homework. And then one of my friends shot him with a paintball gun and it disturbed me. I would never have done my own homework. FYI. It's Saturday. Okay. You have free time. You decide to spend some time away from your dorm. Where do you go? So we already said the forbidden forest, obviously not the library. Do you go to the kitchen or the room of requirement? Now the room of requirement is this room where, where,

If you're walking past it and you need something. I'm fat right now. I'm going to the kitchen. I'm fat. Cool. I'm going to the floor. I love that. Real talk. In COVID, I went from 170 to 220. Holy shit, Spencer. Dude, when I stopped taking Adderall, which was two years ago, I went from 169 to 170. I never got above 170. I weigh 193 now. I gained 20 pounds. Okay.

I currently weigh 213 and that's my healthy eating diet.

I weigh 218 and I'm 6'5", bro. I'm 6 feet if I have shoes on. Spence, do you take Adderall or no? I have ADHD and they're always trying to put me on that shit. And I was like, whatever you're trying to put me on, I don't want that shit because I'm the man. I was like, fuck you. Okay, I just changed you. But I did get untimed on the SATs, full disclosure, from my ADHD test.

Hey, you are going to love this next question. And at the net, Craig is too, because Craig has no idea what it means. I think I killed two bottles of champagne because Heidi came in and tried to get my... Three. No, no, no. He hasn't killed a third one yet.

Nope. I'm on the third, actually. This is I've done two. And we're on Jamie Selleck way. That's my third. All right. So there is this mirror. OK, where where when you look into it, it shows you your deepest, darkest self.

desire real talk side note this is such a good analogy to what i say all the time to heidi i say what the fuck excuse me nick you can bleep that for sponsors what the fuck do these people have all the time i say do they have mirror mirror on the wall what the fuck who do these people think they fucking are like so back to mirrors but like i always think about mirrors so

There's a mirror that shows you when you look into it, your deepest, darkest desire. Okay. Now, what do you see when you look into it? Do you see myself surrounded by riches myself? Okay. I'm not going to sell myself because all of it says that. So surrounded by riches, surrounded by my loving family and friends, knowledgeable above all, or experiencing a marvelous adventure. Riches.

I go knowledgeable. I think I know more than everyone. Yeah, Craig's a Ravenclaw. Okay. This should be called the Trunkist podcast. I'm good. I love it. It should be called that because Craig and I cannot podcast without getting fucking hammered. We both had drank a bottle of wine before this. Here's why you guys are better at podcasting than Heidi and I. We stop podcasting because so many things we say

are like legal issues. Like that's the problem with keeping it real. Sometimes we're like legal issues. Like we have contracts. So we just said our first podcast in, uh,

On months I sent it to our lawyer Our manager And he's like Yeah you can't post this So we have to Like So good for you Being able to Skirt the line Of like What you can do Cause I'm so real That like Everything I say Catches a fucking case Yeah we're pretty good I think we're pretty good at that I know how to play the game And I like Yeah I'm like We're gonna do it We love you as a guest I'm so mad Like I'm at a point I love you as a guest Cause you don't skirt well

I'm so mad that like, I have to keep it 100 on a podcast. Like I'm, I'm not naming our, this was great. We're not talking about what's happening in our lives. If you have me podcast, our lives, I'm like, Oh, let's go in. How good you guys have. Hold on. I have three more questions for you. I have three more questions. Okay. Are you ready? Are you ready? Okay. Okay.

basically which power do you want? Do you want the wand that gives you ultimate power? Do you want the stone that can bring back people from the dead? Or do you want the cloak of invisibility?

the wand yeah of course yeah because can you give yourself invisibility with that dude why no because i want invisibility but can the real talk side note there was a time i spent thirty five thousand dollars on anzenite crystal that i read gave you invisibility and i felt i needed invisibility so that's a side note did you sell it or do you still have it i still have it but i it

Or did you like wear it around your neck and thought you were invisible? I ended up in the washing machine and part of it broke. How are you still married? Because Heidi understands me. That's amazing. You guys are a couple of girls. Heidi, like people always ask me why am I married? I'm like, hey. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You spent $35,000 on a stone that was supposed to make you invisible and you clearly were just not invisible. Just some dude wearing a rock on your neck.

No, I didn't wear it on my neck. It's in my pocket. It's in my pocket. That's how it ended up with the washing machine, and it broke. And why it was so expensive is because it's Tanzanite twin, and half the twin broke. Spencer is reality fucking gold. Spencer, you are gold. Okay, Spencer, Spencer, which path do you intend to follow after leaving Hogwarts?

Oh, my God. Do you want to join the government? Do you want to travel before coming into a career? You settle down and start a family or continue to work in order to achieve as much success as possible? I want to join the government. I feel like they back. I feel like I'm part of this. It's amazing. It's going to throw off all your results. OK. And finally.

Finally, this is one of the things that Harry Potter, it's like the absolute crux of the sorting hat is that it takes your opinion into account. Okay. So that's good. I love it. You can put it all over. So, so you know that you're okay. You know that your wife.

watches you know the show and and you've heard these names before okay so so there are four houses yeah harry potter gryffindor hufflepuff ravenclaw or slytherin which one of those do you leathering

Of course you're a Slytherin. I said it before. Why do I even start it? That's the most juice. Okay, okay. And it just came back. And the results came back and said you are 37% Slytherin, 29% Gryffindor, 24% Ravenclaw, and 10% Hufflepuff. But what's awesome is Kristen is a Slytherin too. So our two guests. What does it add up to? No, no, no. Well, what it adds up to is 100%, my friend. You're a Slytherin.

It's saying that 37% of you is Slytherin, which means you are a Slytherin. From what I recall of the movies, homie has the most powers. Yeah, you're Draco. A thousand percent, dude. What he cares about is raw power. Facts. He just got hard as a rock. Your eyes just rolled back as we got hard. I'm like, oh my god.

Here's the problem with being so aware of what raw power means and when you experience it. You sound like Craig. I'm scared. You guys live in Nashville, all due respect, wherever you live. I don't even know what state. Spence. Spence. Where do you live? Love you, bro. Charles, where do you live? You're amazing. Charleston. Charleston.

LA is not the epicenter of the universe. Okay. We live in Charleston, South Carolina. I'll argue this all day long until you grow up and live in LA. You have no idea what you're talking about. The powers that be live in Los Angeles. The secondary powers that be live in New York. The

This is facts. I'll, I'll give you off podcast content. It's not even, I've been, but what about just getting on a bill? So much, what about, okay. So say everything you're saying is correct. I'm not saying it's not, but,

but we live in Charleston where we can just get on our golf cart, drive down to our boat, get on the boat. And we have a bunch of like hot people on the boat and we just drink and have fun. And then we get back. In LA. Do you want to go golf cart and boat? Uh,

So we're talking about Tudor and Briars. What you're describing sounds amazing. I'm talking about the power. Sounds like heaven on earth. No, I know. If we're doing Harry Potter, I'm talking about the actual power. I'm talking about the power. I know, but what if you accept that other people, which isn't like me to say. What is your power? What you're describing sounds amazing to a civilian. Right. Normal person. Well,

I'm talking about people that have real power. The question is, that's the question. Austin keeps interrupting me, but...

And he just turned on his mic again. Anyway, what I mean is, say we're fully aware of that going on in LA, fully aware of New York, but if you're completely left alone in Charleston, where they just let you golf cart around and bar hop and go out on the boat and just drink and hook up and have fun and no one bothers you, is there ever that choice to be like,

I'm okay with going here and not having the power. I don't know. It's weird. It's a different type of power. You're describing is individual power. You as a person, you and Austin and Craig live your superpower, credible life that I sounds so amazing, but I'm talking about Harry Potter,

real world galaxy, international multi-dimension, multiverse power. These people in Los Angeles and New York are the epicenter of real wizardry power controlling. Yeah. But how do you get involved in that? Is that generational or is that money or is that who you're born into? Like, is it wealth? Like, how do you get in? So the power that you're talking about in LA and New York, or do you just bleed out and you sell your soul? Like, how do you get into that power?

You can definitely sell your soul and connect to like satanic power, obviously. Oh, I've heard a lot about that in LA, like the weird sex parties and the shit that goes on. Like, and everyone's like, Oh, you're crazy. We're talking about, I'm talking to my friends that are painting their whole bodies as the devil going to sex parties. That really happens. That's really happens. Not a game. So do I think this people, these people have power? No. I think the power is really resting people with,

real power, trillionaires, family, generational wealth. Are you saying money? Wealth? Of course, but you can definitely play in their game if you're selling your soul and a part of it. We were invited to multiple sex parties in real life and Heidi's upset that I even said, let's go. But I love sex. So my logic was like, let's watch all these people having sex. But Heidi was not down with it. But we've been invited. Yeah.

to real deal, eyes wide shut, Gwyneth Paltrow type level goop. Oh, yeah. I've heard about all of it, but there's...

There's alternative motive for the sex party. I shut it down, but I was like, we don't have to do it. Let's go check it out. But this stuff's real. And I don't know if Nick will edit this out. It doesn't matter. I mean, look, I used to think about it in Europe because I thought it'd be fun, but it wasn't for power like it is in LA and New York. I used to travel with my ex. It was like, oh, it could be fun to go check these places out. But there was like a three-week...

application process and all that stuff. So we didn't end up doing it. But yeah, there's other stuff going on. But when you speak of power, we did this

Avenger thing the other day where it was like, who would you be in the Marvel Universe? Great question that I really wanted to answer too. And Austin and I are so different. I was like, I would be Thor. I think Thor is great. He's a god with superpowers and blah, blah, blah. Austin picked a civilian that just was rich and had like a cool... Robert Downey Jr., whatever...

No, Iron Man would have maybe made sense because you had a suit that did everything. He wants to be Batman. He wants to be Batman out of all of the Avengers. Sorry, he is a fucking billionaire. Who cares? Philanthropist. You can be a god.

I 100% call myself Thor every day. I'm like, come on. Yes. I'm like, I'm Thor, so I can't stand Batman. But I get it because Batman is rich as shit. But Iron Man is rich as shit, but he has his like. Okay, fine. I like Iron Man too. How about that? Would you pick Batman? How did I get drunker than both of you on your own podcast? It's not fair. I'm like trying to like, where am I?

That's not at all. Austin just fell over the bed. Never call yourself drunker than me on my own podcast ever again. You both look more sober, so maybe you're more professional. That's because I'm sitting. I'm sitting and I'm looking at... Oh, ask him your Spider-Man thing because this was also a thing. Are you ready for this? Hold on, hold on.

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This is important, though. The Spider-Man thing is Austin's idiot. We got so much feedback. Don't poison his mind. I'm not going to. I stopped. Are you going into your podcast voice? Yeah, I am. He's going into his podcast voice. In fact, you both have individual mics. Spence, you've seen the Spider-Man. Yes.

I'm not caught up on the news. I'm back on Tobey Maguire. Oh, baby. Just read him the fucking thing. God damn it. I rolled up on Tobey Maguire at the Bel Air Hotel on Snapchat. Ready for this? You want to see the maddest Spider-Man you've ever seen? I rolled up on Tobey Maguire at the Bel Air Hotel, which is supposed to be like a secretive low-key offer. I know. I've been waiting with you. I rolled up

Asking Spencer questions is impossible. I said, Toby, what's up, player? Spidey, Spidey, let's go. On Snapchat. You've never seen a madder face in your life, in your whole life. 100%. 100%. So Austin's about to ask you who the best Spider-Man is. And I said the new guy that gets to make out with Zantaya. I'll go with Tobey Maguire because I punked him. Tobey Maguire is the best Spider-Man. That's absurd. I agree. I'll say Tobey because I punked him. That's been out there.

And I was like, what are you going to do, Spider-Man? You're going to web me? I'll put you on my Snapchat.

You were going on my Snapchat, Mr. The only person that was madder than me putting on my Snapchat is when I roll up on Nobu at, what's that fucking British dude's name? Nobu. Who's the little piano singer, dude? Come on. Piano singer from what? From what? From England. Famous. Oh, fucking Elton John? Jesus Christ. Younger, younger.

Bublé? No. England. English piano player, Spencer. You're not telling us much here. You're not telling me anything. Who's the most famous singer from England? Fucking Elton John. The Beatles. John Lennon. No, no. England. England.

They're from England. The young people, the young, he's young. Ed, what's his last name? Ed Sheeran. Ed Sheeran. All you had to say was a receding airline ginger.

I said piano player. He plays piano, right? I don't know. So Ed Sheeran, I roll up on my Snapchat. His bodyguard is trying to push me and shit. I'm like, you can push me as hard as you want. I'm getting fucking Ed Sheeran on my Snapchat, bro. So yeah, fuck Ed Sheeran. Here's a good question. Have you ever been starstruck, Spencer? No.

Recently, like three days ago, I was starstruck. It's Katie Couric came to our house and she fed hummingbirds because she wanted a few. Oh, I saw that on your Instagram. So Katie Couric DM me. She's like, can I please come over tomorrow morning? I'm like, yeah. She's like it.

It's Valentine's Day. I'm like, great. You're welcome here. You lady only interviews presidents and hangs out with famous people. So Katie Couric star struck me because in real life, I watched Star Wars and shit. But did you know her or she just slid into your DMs? I didn't know her. I didn't. I knew of her.

She sent the DMs. And when she came over home, girl floated through our house. Like I was like, this is what, when you're a multimillionaire and the most famous, most powerful lady, this is what it looks like. And I was trying to grab her aura. Cause I'm into aura. So I'm like trying to suck up her aura. It was wild. I will say that we're a thing is, is cool. And I, I was with a girl a couple of years ago. And she said,

And look, there's people that animals run up to like dogs and stuff. I haven't been around hummingbirds, but dogs. And then there's, and babies. And when babies they'll either be really attracted to someone and walk up to them or, you know, like crawl up to them and like they'll they're comfortable with them or they, they give a look and they're like, I don't want anything to do with that person or the puppy or the dog is like, I don't want to go around them. And this girl I was hooking up with was like,

That's because of your aura, Craig. Babies and animals can see your aura. And if you have an attractive aura, they're comfortable around you. But if you have a dark aura, which someone on our show definitely has a dark aura. More than one person. And babies do not go up to them. And dogs...

hate them. And I think it's really interesting. This is factual and this ex-girlfriend's right because I've been dealing with so much crazy dark energy with this current Hills cast and this new season where I used to be able to have hummingbirds land on me in the middle of a second.

Yeah, I saw it on your Instagram. But over a week now, two weeks now, I can't get any hummingbirds. And I know it's because my aura is so dark and when I'm dealing with these people. That's amazing, by the way. Katie Couric comes in.

50 hummingbirds. All the hummers are coming to her because her aura is so whatever it's supposed to be. Healthy and bright and just welcoming. I'm a millionaire. My life's great. I know. And my world right now is so effed up because of what I'm dealing with. Because reality TV. Because reality TV. We just did a podcast. I sent it to my lawyer. Our first podcast in six months. I was like, sent it to my lawyer. That's why I stopped podcasting because I'm too real. And I'm like, this is going to catch me a case.

So I sent it to my lawyer and they listened and they're like, yeah, you can't run this podcast. So I was like, we got to redo this first podcast in six months because I can't not speak the truth. And the truth creates legal issues nowadays. Like, it's crazy. Ours was Danny McBride moving to Charleston and he was...

Awesome. That's the only person I've been starstruck around was Danny McBride. We rented the same house in Aspen that Danny McBride rents and that's my connection to Danny McBride. And the owner was like, we're used to dealing with famous people. This is the house Danny McBride owns. I was like, okay, even if you're lying, booked, Danny McBride. Best hustle ever. You got me. Maybe the first podcast they're like, I'm black out.

All right. And that was our interview with Spencer. The interview was just so, so long. And like, and, and like, it became more about just like, you know, podcasting. It became about us just like, you know, hanging out and like, you know, zooming together and, you know, talking about this. And so we like, like almost forgot to do like an ending, like, all right. And that was our interview with Spencer. It was just kind of like,

Everyone was drunk. I don't even remember it ending, Craig, to be honest. Honestly, we... Yeah, we'll just try something. This has been... No. Like we said, this interview is one for the ages. I just... I really... You never know how many layers someone has until they completely just...

grab that mic and let it all out there. And he's amazing with that. And we loved having Spencer on. We're going to save a lot of the stuff that we had to cut out or maybe not a lot, but for a special episode that we'll let go. But I mean, after four hours, we, we just had to cut it off. So he will be back. Him and Heidi will be back at a future date, but next week, I think you're going to really enjoy our vintage episode that we recorded the same night. We recorded the same night. We recorded Spencer. Was it the same night?

Where it was the night before. Yeah. All right, everyone. That's episode five of pillows and beer on a secret location in the Northeast from me and Austin. You can find and listen to the show on speaker, Spotify, Apple podcasts, a bunch of other places. If you just Google it, you will find it. We love your interaction with us.

If you have an idea for a jingle and want to put something together, we can't wait to hear it. And until next time, Austin, you want to take us, do you want to be a part of this outro Austin or no, I thought you had that you're doing, you know, fantastic, but yes, if you do want to find us on social media, I was just going to say at pillows and the letter N N beer, not pillows and beer. Screw that guy. Whoever it is.