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The Pundies: Worst Takes of 2024

2024/12/20
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Dan Pfeiffer
前白宫通信主任和《Pod Save America》播客的共同主持人,专注于政治、通信和数字策略。
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John Lovett
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Jon Favreau
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Jon Lovett
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Tommy Vitor
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Jon Favreau: 2024年大选民调和预测的失败,以及对未来预测的反思。我们回顾了年初对共和党和特朗普的预测,以及对民主党初选的预测,这些预测都未能准确反映最终结果。我们还讨论了对佛罗里达州大选结果的预测,以及对种族融合和拜登支持率的预测,这些预测也存在偏差。最后,我们分析了这些预测失败的原因,并反思了在未来进行政治预测时应该注意的问题。 Jon Levitt: 我对2024年大选民调和预测的失败进行了评论,并对未来预测的反思。我特别关注了对佛罗里达州大选结果的预测,以及对种族融合和拜登支持率的预测,这些预测都存在偏差。此外,我还讨论了安·塞尔泽的民调结果,以及对这些预测失败的原因进行了分析。 Tommy Vitor: 我对2024年大选民调和预测的失败进行了评论,并对未来预测的反思。我特别关注了对佛罗里达州大选结果的预测,以及对种族融合和拜登支持率的预测,这些预测都存在偏差。此外,我还讨论了艾伦·利希特曼的13把钥匙预测系统,以及对这些预测失败的原因进行了分析。 Dan Pfeiffer: 我对2024年大选民调和预测的失败进行了评论,并对未来预测的反思。我特别关注了对拜登支持率的预测,以及对这些预测失败的原因进行了分析。此外,我还讨论了在未来进行政治预测时应该注意的问题。 Elijah Cohn: 我作为主持人,对2024年大选民调和预测的失败进行了总结,并对未来预测的反思。我回顾了各个嘉宾对不同预测的评论,并对这些预测失败的原因进行了总结。 Max Burns: 我撰写了一篇文章,预测特朗普领导下的共和党将会衰落。 Nate Silver: 我对佛罗里达州大选结果的预测存在偏差,并与基思·拉博伊斯进行了一场关于此的辩论。 Keith Rabois: 我与内特·西尔弗就佛罗里达州大选结果的预测进行了辩论。 Adam Carlson: 我对种族融合的预测存在偏差,并承认了自己的错误。 Ann Seltzer: 我对爱荷华州大选结果的民调预测存在偏差,并因此受到了批评。 Sarah Longwell: 我对安·塞尔泽的民调结果进行了评论,并认为她的民调结果虽然与其他民调结果存在差异,但历史上她的民调结果往往比较准确。 Alan Lichtman: 我声称自己有一个预测选举结果的系统,并认为内特·西尔弗不懂得如何使用这个系统。

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Key Insights

Why did Elon Musk's tweets lead to a potential government shutdown?

Elon Musk tweeted his disapproval of the funding bill, which upset him due to the height and aesthetic displeasing nature of the stack of paper. This, combined with Trump's involvement, led to the bill's rejection, causing a potential government shutdown just before the holidays.

Why did the new version of the funding bill eliminate funding for childhood cancer research?

The new bill, influenced by Trump and Musk, cut funding for childhood cancer research to eliminate what they considered unnecessary items, benefiting pharmaceutical middlemen and allowing more investment in China.

Why did Joe Lovett and Dan Pfeiffer want to let Trump own the government shutdown?

They believed it would be beneficial to let Trump and his allies take the blame for the shutdown, rather than involving the current administration, which could be seen as stronger if away from such controversies.

Why was Travis Helwig's take on Democrats reaching young men criticized?

Travis Helwig suggested that Democrats' ads aimed at young men were inauthentic due to a lack of straight men under 40 in the consultant class. While the point about inauthentic ads had merit, the phrasing was seen as insensitive and dismissive.

Why did Alan Lichtman's 13 keys system fail in 2024?

Alan Lichtman's 13 keys system, which claimed to predict election outcomes, failed because it was based on a miasma of contradictory data and made definitive predictions without allowing for uncertainty. This was a signal example of overconfidence in political forecasting.

Why did John Favreau's take about Joe Biden's appearance on Seth Meyers not hold up?

John Favreau believed that more public appearances like Joe Biden's interview on Seth Meyers would reassure people about his sharpness and readiness for the job. However, Biden's subsequent performances, including the debate, showed that this was an overly optimistic view.

Why did the hosts of Pod Save America struggle with their New Year's resolutions?

The hosts, including Jon Favreau, Dan Pfeiffer, Tommy Vitor, and John Lovett, found it challenging to stick to their resolutions, which included taking silent walks, reducing screen time, and improving their relationship with food and diet. They often joked about their failures and lack of discipline.

Why was Travis Helwig's take on Kamala Harris and suburban women not accurate?

Travis Helwig believed that Kristi Noem would be a good VP choice for Trump because she could appeal to suburban women concerned about abortion. However, Trump chose a different strategy, picking a candidate who made women uncomfortable but still won the election.

Why did Dan Pfeiffer decide to prioritize yoga and mindfulness in 2025?

Dan Pfeiffer wants to improve his attention span and mental well-being by practicing yoga and mindfulness. He aims to put his phone away before bed and avoid multitasking, which will help him be more deliberate and focused in the coming year.

Why did the hosts choose Alan Lichtman's 13 keys as the worst take of the year?

Alan Lichtman's 13 keys system was chosen as the worst take because it was overly confident and failed to account for uncertainty in political predictions. His system was seen as pseudoscience and contributed to misleading narratives during the election cycle.

Chapters
This chapter covers the worst political commentary of 2024, starting with takes on the presidential primaries and moving to polling predictions. It features commentary from various sources, highlighting inaccurate predictions and flawed analyses.
  • Analysis of inaccurate takes on the 2024 primaries.
  • Discussion of flawed polling predictions and the limitations of polling.
  • Critique of commentary from The Hill and other sources.

Shownotes Transcript

The world's richest man trolls Republicans into a potential government shutdown right before the holidays and the curtain closes on 2024...and it can't come soon enough. We didn't win the White House, the Senate, or the House, but we'll always have the Pundies. Jon, Lovett, Dan, and Tommy are joined by producer Elijah Cone for our annual awards show celebrating the worst takes of a year we'd rather forget. Plus, the guys listen back to their old New Year's resolutions and make some new ones for 2025.