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I, one of your host, even robes join me, is always a good friend. Jason, eight, ten. I was going, Jason.

to look Better, sweets, even where recording the day before thanksgiving ving we are Normally we would be in florida, which is where you are. And I think at one point, we even talked about trying to do this show in person this week. But we're not in florida.

We're still, and I think the last two thanksgiving, yes, we actually saw each other I R L in real.

not on thanksgiving.

but the week up. We have breakfast. We have breakfast thanksgiving week. And yeah, we made in person. So we the tradition, what happened?

Well, our kids at school told you yesterday that's the big thing. And then one of daughters had a big aca tnm in over the week, this past week, and we were going just going to go to india appears, and then just keep driving. But then the kids had school, and there was just enough things going. Also, we were told that all of the like most of the hotels where we go on treasure island were all closed and the pool was closed and the which was still being like room or whatever. So we're kind of like i'm not taking four kids to florida if they can get in the gone the beach or the pool yeah that's kind.

What is the boy actually cold this week too, believe or not. I mean, not michigan cold, but IT is like in the forties. So be different.

Well, I S A first watch breakfast this year. Let's resume next year. But last week, for the movie quotes I forgot to mention, IT was our big fifty episode.

Last week, I forgot to actually ask you the name of the movie, which I quoted, the movie, which I hadn't seen before, fifty, fifty, which was perfect. The fifty episode I forgot me. And so very too, pretty good. Do you have any guesses as to the movie, quote to the beginning of this episode, it's kind of an obvious one because.

yeah, I think it's just Brown Christmas.

Just be a Charles Brown thanksgiving is child and thankful ving ah so you know they before thanksgiving where again to listen questions is what of our favorite thanksgiving shes? And so that's coming a plate or favor thanksgiving food from shown on blue guys are going get to that. Everyone could do a little bit of news.

And of course, five star reviews were a five star podcast and apple podcast and spotify. So thank you for doing that. And two reviews, red pixel, all nine, which I feel like this is his eighteen th review.

But listen, okay, keep pad IT as long as that as five or just I don't .

want to say he said dots on that, all I have to say about that. And as tech one nine hundred and sixty seven from canada says, we must listen and Better represent john. So you want that one dots aren't speaking of listers .

hold speak of listeners. You know how like I think it's like connected. They have all these like listeners who keep score of all of the games that they play. I think somebody should go back and figure out how many the movie quotes .

I actually right?

I'm not going to do IT, but I think you're kind of pretty good number of them, right?

You've got a lot right, uh, surprising amount. So we we should eventually swap and you give me a movie court at some point .

and if I do IT, it's just going to all be westering references.

That's like poor friends, western, not some friends, friends i've seen I could do friends pave out and exactly first pic of news OpenAI might be working on a browser. And so they recently released search GPT, which is really just part of ChatGPT, where you can click a little button in the search as the web. Well, IT looks like they might be taking on google chrome.

This is an information article where you see the headline read. He just see nothing else. But but john gruber actually wrote about IT. And in his article where he can retouch about the information, he said a party OpenAI has hired been good ger, a founding member of the chrome team at google, and another recent hired open the eyes there and Fisher, who also worked, uh, with good or two, develop chrome. And so IT seems like open.

I will be working towards the browser, which interesting timing because a, we talked about last week how the D O, J here in the states might a force google to sell off chrome. Again, we're not going to know the result of that until next year. But if google would have to sell off chrome and OpenAI comes in with its own browser that actually good.

That would give OpenAI a huge advantage where a search GPT could be built in and just like typing in the advance. So sorry, you can default that google search. And that's why google pays apple twenty billion dollars a year.

They could search G, P, put search GPT as the default, their opening, our brothers, not to mention all the A S. stuff. I mean, think about apple intelligent summaries, which is a big feature of sofa and mac, coi and eighteen.

I mean, opening. I could put summaries in all the things if IT had a web brother, we're just every website you visit, you just get a summary, a breakdown and you can prompt things to do whatever you want. So that would be an interesting product out. I would be interested to use something like that, an opening our brother um of course, the problem goes even further down the road of like objecting traffic away from actual websites because the OpenAIr b rowser w ould j ust w ant t o g ive y ou a ll t he s tuff a nd i t'll p robably g ive y ou a l ink w ay d own a t t he b ottom. But I don't know what do you use .

an OpenAI browser? That's the interesting question. I think my first thought on this is, yeah of course they are isn't a convenient that there may be one for sale soon, but right I don't even think open a eye can afford chrome if it's really worth what people say it's worth.

But it's interesting because it's like why why does OpenAI need a browser? Like there are lots of browsers there. There there's more than enough, right? Have good browsers like you, brave chrome, whatever, safari.

And then there's brothers like edge. There's like other browsers out there. Yeah, but it's sort of a revealing, revealing truth about like these tech companies. The best example, if you download edge onto your computer, which i've done in this action out of bad browser, to be honest with you.

but just call me in the but the worst part .

about IT is every time you open that, do you want default? Do you want being as your default search? Do you like microsoft? Will you be my friend?

Like you just constantly and IT just reveals like, oh, they see these browsers as the entry point to all of their other services and what they don't, you know, especially with search like that, such because we have gotten to a point where no one visit like no one types in WWW that google dot com, right? You just start typing into the address bar. And by default, if what you type is URL, IT will just take you to a search.

And so that's where the traffic for all this comes from. And search is such search advertising is such a lucrative business. And so for ChatGPT, like I guess that kind of make sense because right now you can sort of Jerry rig your default search engine into for crime, which we talked about.

I did this right. You can download extension, which somehow creates a preference that does because it's not a part of any of the drop down list like chat. Pity is not an option unless you do this.

But how many people are actually going to do that as opposed to if they just have a chrome browser? And by to fall ChatGPT is the surgeon like that's that's a tony traffic. And if anything opening, I have to figure out how are we going to make how are going to make money from this thing?

We have like a totally see, you know, you do some searches with search GPT and I will give you search results every time. But maybe like you go to that recipe page and the first ten times the opening eyebrows er just gives you all, by the way, instead of reading all that craft, here's just the ingredient list and recipes, tips and IT just shows you that like in a side bar and then after ten of those that says, well, if you want to do more ChatGPT, pls is right here. And like you're .

having more than a ten course thanksgiving dinner so you have to sign before you can get another .

recipe one hundred percent and in one hundred percent, IT would be just like that. Maximum search query and then set up to only people on on chat, pity plus. So let you see that.

Uh, being part of IT, I would I would be interested to use IT. Yeah I don't know, we'll say but also I I will say one of five covered this. The shortcuts for P T was actually they did.

They do a lot of shortcuts actions, uh, to their credit. So you can use IT without actually opening the APP. But there is actually a search GPT extension action now.

So if you want to create shortcuts where, you know, you press the thing on your home screen or the action button and you type in a search query, you can have that default now to search GPT using the web rather than just kind of and ask ChatGPT conversation. So I think they're really trying to make the play to do more. You know, if they want people to use IT for search, I have not gotten into the habit of using IT. Do you still use IT pretty often like .

I do because it's still that is my default. To be clear, I don't know that they want people to use IT for search. They just want people to use IT.

And what they have discovered is the thing people will do on a regular basis is search. They don't they're not as likely to just go to ChatGPT to do other as many other things. But like if you just look at the number of quarries for ChatGPT versus the number of search quarries are like there's a lot over there.

If we could capture some of that, that's what we need to do. Yeah, so i'm still using IT all the time. I is still my default search.

I will say that I have started to learn there are definitely things that I would rather use google for. So thankfully, in crime, there's just a short. If you had coin g of default to a google search, I think you can actually like being as the same.

There's different ones. And there are certain things where you were just because it's faster, like google. So just still insanely faster compared to ChatGPT search.

But if I actually need an answer or something explained, chat ChatGPT search is like infinitely Better than google search at this point. Like, yeah, it's not even funny. Like I google pass them under advice and all I got was S O garbage about all kinds of things.

But when I, when I did the same thing with ChatGPT search, I gave me like seven things I should try with links to different things. And these are the most successful. And in this red thing they suggest this. But someone had this bad is like, I like, this is exactly what I wanted.

You could just ask me A S S R. GPT, because I have dealt with four posts in my last house. And I got the big cage.

I did tuna fish. I did ARM slice. I I was a master capturing those things after while, anyway, I was the old house, the spotlight.

I will say i've been using spite like more my iphone, just as like a overall search tool because very for definitions like if there's a word or something, i'll just swipe down, type the word and I wish I could reorder the search results on the mac. You can reorder spotlight results. I don't think you can on the iphone, but you can just get the strain dictionary definition.

If you scroll down and you tap IT and then you get the, you know, definitions, the source, all of that. But i'll also just search, you know there's an act or whatever you trying to find that I used call sheet a lot, you know if i'm looking up a specific movie or T V show. But a lot of times, I mean gave you the wikipedia sult pretty quickly.

Sometimes i'll give you other results. I feel like apple should really inject more results in that like I want to search spot or they do this when you type the address parent so far, they will try to like preload websites and have you jump straight to IT. And I used to just completely avoid those because I was like just giving the google search.

But now if I start typing something and I see a website that I recognize and I can just go directly to IT ah I will do that. And that totally office skates the search engine entirely. That's just apple giving you what he thinks you want. And out of curious your thoughts on this, should apple have ever built a search engine, we could argue that spotlight maybe is that I think they can use, set up a little bit and have IT me a little more proactive and giving you results and trying to direct you certain ways. But should I have done more there like in the search?

Yes, I mean, I think there is no question apple would have built a search engine. Were not for twenty billion dollars a year, right? I don't think there's any question the apple in I think apple is one of the only companies that could build a searching to compete with google.

And the reason before IT is not like we think about like, well, microsoft is a pretty capable tech company and they built being the problem is not the search engine technology part of IT. It's the flow of traffic, right? Customer position are thin, right? So good.

Apple has an an extraordinary arly. You don't underestimate advantage that they have in that because, right, like google is obviously searches from safari are tremeau ued to google because they are willing to give twenty million dollars back to apple just to be in that position. And so apple absolutely because I don't think there's any question.

They wouldn't built some kind of thing and maybe they wouldn't built. They like map that apple doc you would have searched out appi. Maybe I would have just been the series search, like maybe that would have been the search to some they have because what you just said, they have obviously search. They just have made IT more subtle than you know.

And it's not something that they tell you to go do a lot. They might say like you spotlight to search the web.

But one of the things we forgot last week, I was listening to the verge cast and they talked about one of the other D O J remedy suggestions for google and chrome, was that google would be required to license their search eight data basically, and that they would have to provide N, A, P, I for a company to build a search engine and or browser with google search and click data, which that really the value is. Google has decades of information of what people click, where they click, how they search. And that is what would allow someone to make a great search engine. That would be interesting if IT does go that direction, where the D O G forces google to license their click data and you search information and then OpenAI could actually incorporate that into a broader with ChatGPT and or even apple like maybe apple stops paying google or the being the default search and instead just licenses their click data and apple starts to going to earn I think that would be an interesting future too, maybe less likely.

But yeah, and I feel I ve read an article I for a business insider a couple years ago, which I can read because I no longer have account business and say all bind to pay I. So I am like actually looking at this article in the google backs when I wrote IT, I don't exactly remember.

But the point was that, you know, where are not for that twenty billion llys apple? Absolutely, he would have built a full flood search engine and that they are constantly, sort of quietly building IT into to theory. And I don't know, I think I actually think that the only the most logical outcome, and I think I heard many times and talking about this, that maybe the reason that the D O J is pushing so hard on the whole google into trust, enforcing himself, chrome, whatever whatever is to to really is more about apple.

It's like we're going to do all of these things. We're going to cut off them. The deals right where we're going pay for, we're going to force them to do this. We're going it's really they are trying to say apple, we would really like you to build a search engine, which is funny because they are also suing apple. So like.

right.

But here I didn't want to say this. I have heard multiple people talking about, and he feels like just glossing over this idea. What the D O G is asking for is for google to license out its technology and make search just sort of a platform that anyone could build on top of in my questions.

Why would google do that? Like, well, I don't think google capability give up on the search engine, right? There's just too much invested in IT, right? But they're definitely not going to make IT Better if they have to share IT with competitors, right?

This doesn't make any sense. No, I would just die. I mean.

they would not up. No, I don't know. I just don't understand like how it's like you build this thing that makes a tone of money and now you have to make the money making part of IT available to everyone else.

It's like, I know. Is that really how the world works? I don't know, I don't get IT. We don't live in the E U.

Come out on people. Oh no, no, no. Uh, that's this where we get one star reviews, say just that cash.

That's what happens. I don't anywhere where I can know any results that to like April, may even later next year. But want to say you are an article talking about an outage. Uh, microsoft had a huge outage yesterday, tuesday.

At this week was monday.

I was the and they had a very cypher response, which the response is interesting, which is what you wrote about. I also think it's funny that they not funny, but you know they set IT on x and that's where they mention the outage. And it's like there was another day to recently when blue sky was down, if for like a little bit and then people are posting about IT on x and IT helped very early twitter days.

The fail where would happen on twitter? And the people post about IT on what facebook, myspace, email lists? I don't know. So it's very like almost feel like full circle deal. But yeah microsoft 的 responses .

scriptis。 So what do they say? Well, first of all, this was an outage to outlook and two teams, which I feel like this, very happy, thrilled.

But I do think that if you make an email platform that four hundred million people use and IT goes down, you should do more than just be like hoops. Sorry, guys like they don't even say sorry, their response was just so weird. And IT is, it's like for more information, visit something, something, something.

And they gave this long number. And i'm like, why get why they posting this on next? Because no one is going to find whatever that thing is that they just told you to read.

I just think it's really weird because they IT seems like I have not seen a conclusive explanation for what happened. But this seems like somebody like implemented some software and the software just was like, oh, identified a recent change. Well, what is a recent change? Did somebody like trip on a cord and plug a server? Did somebody insert code? A recent change could be a hack, right? Like, I mean, that IT seems pretty clear that I wasn't, but i'm just my point is if you just messed up, could think about IT. Like this is exactly what happened with crowd strike over the summer where basically they just injected a bad piece of code automatically updated on millions and millions of windows pcs and suddenly fights are cancelled for a week like I, you should do more.

I don't want to read this status. This was on ex microsoft, where the handle is M S F T three sixty five status. And IT says we have identified a recent change, which we believe has .

resulted in impact. Not a sentence by way that .

doesn't make any sense. That goes on. We've started to revert the change and I are investigating what additional actions are required to mitigate issue. For more information, please refer to M O nine four one one .

six two in the adman center OK. I'm on IT again. I, by the way, so I still have a, uh, microsoft count just for fun.

Everyone just have one just for fun. But I could not I couldn't figure how to find that. I, I, I looked, yeah, but I know the add center, but I figure how to find that issue anywhere. I don't have advises adult.

say I I got to delete an internet account on my application of the day he was. The thing on the side of doing that is over. And IT was a wonderful feeling to be able to delete that office three sixty five account everywhere, because of all the accounts which I have, fast mail, google and one other one, the microsoft one, constantly needed me to reauthorize.

I had to log in into fantastic cow and even intellect building. I was accounts like regularly, I don't know. He was like once every other month or something.

And I had you that microsoft dictor, which talked about the past to the pain of my existence. I just can't stay in that thing. And now I just I never to deal IT again. I have no microsoft anywhere.

I still use microsoft thendara or but only because I don't know how to move all the two factor validation out of IT like that just doesn't seem like we will. Here's the thing I have. I use IT because we have to use IT to get into the cm s.

So I use IT multiple times every single day. And so the idea, like, I don't want to spend any band with dr, I know you make fun of me, but I literally have microsoft thin icatu on my home screen, because IT is legitimately one of the apps that I have to hit all the time. But I said this, the beautiful thing of what IT is, I just tap IT a copy into the group board, and I can pay, and I can like it's the best reason for universal clipboard is the microsoft authentic .

cator is Jason is going to be like five steps max. You just you go to your account settings, you go to privacy and security and set up the two factor in I clb passwords.

But do you know how many of these things I have? I have a lot of.

I have to set up. I have rained.

So you use that as your two factor. IT is my two factor for everything.

Jason pressing itself by in flashing, you just flash all the two different, but they're all expire .

by the time is they're only good fifteen more seconds, only person I can do .

and we're not in whatever .

you want my twitter account yeah.

yeah. action. You should never done that. That's a terrible idea. But at the time.

there were no two factor. One password.

one password was not doing IT.

not when I, not when some of these were set up. Really I square space had two factor on IT for like years.

Oh yeah, I mean, well, mean, well, I will say i'm i'm going to do a video on this eventually, but packers are even kind of more difficult to move over. Basically, for a lot of websites, you have to turn off two factor and then we enable IT in order to set IT up in a different APP, which is a pain the nick and most people don't do IT. It's not a really way to transferred.

Although a lot of two factor codes, there's like a token, like a text string, like if you set up in one password, you can actually access that text. You can actually just copy, pace that into like eyes, cloud passwords in a login. And I will just add the two factor code automatically.

So for two two factor, most the time there's a string. I don't know that microsoft one, if you go to like edit IT, if you actually give you the the string of text. But when IT comes to pass keys, that is a harder process. You basically have to go to each website individually and say, can you please give me another pass key? And then it's like, well, as where to gave you one, I don't know if we want to do that, you have to be like.

well, let me tell you, well, I just going to tell you I have been a good authority. okay. And by good authority, I mean, from the cee of one password that the fight alliance is adding uh, portability to the packy standard.

So you will be able to just eventually move them over in one password. And apple are both part of that. The first alliance, I think, there on the board.

And so like they're cremated to IT. So IT is come. I mean, I literally asked that question as we were headed from the convention center to the hotel. I have a question .

you like in the backside of a car .

we're in the back side of ah I just like I got a quick question for you and and he's like, well, here's what I can tell you. It's coming. It's like IT has been approved. Here's a part of the standard or it's like whatever I don't know how standards work, but IT is like, yes, IT is a part of that stand. So IT will will be coming.

I I will just say I do like it's so like, for example, the test la APP, I do have to set up and in passwords because I didn't I did not add two factor to my tesla APP. Until one day I got an email that someone had ordered seventy five t shirts out of my tesla. Super not cool.

Twenty five tesla t shirts yep.

from they just went to the merge store and just started ordering stuff like they didn't buy a car. They just t 恤 t well。 you.

But my point is like they went into my test, like bought a whole bunch of march. And I just like, this is dum. And so I was able to cancel that.

I was able to deal that. But I was I to like that. And at the time when I did IT asked, like the past, I just pop up and was like, do you, honey, to handle this for you and the best? Apple.

please handle this hall. great. Well, about the best. And I two quite news things.

And then we can get to the listening questions. I saw this article from wired linked in, apparently first, all this headline. I'm sorry if you have some kind of, uh, reaction to this headline. I don't know why you would put a gift .

like this in the top without a warning. Come on.

I A trigger warning. This is like disturbing. Anyway, you're listening the show. You can just go to this wired article and well, just be prepared because you can have a visual disturbance is also terrifying because this dismember red hands all over the thing.

But anyway, uh, apparently over fifty percent of linked impose, fifty four percent of longer english language post on lindon are likely A I generated. I thought this was lario have to stop sharing the screen. The why IT just has stuff going all over to stop IT is very weird.

I D fifty four percent to post. Listen I will say I try to be active on linton because for job stuff, you know, whatever I post over there. But when I I don't score because I love when I scroll linked and I see these long post unlike oh that I mean, okay, I get IT. But this wide article named S A sense IT does feel like people are just throwing, I don't know, a thirty minute podcast they did or they just did a voice memo and they are thrown in into A I and say, make a linked in post and another while linked in especially like IT doesn't feel like that even on the reads or I mean this engagement bid on threads but IT doesn't feel like A I generated and just feels like someone stole someone else is post but on link and just feels this is like to A I generated because it's so busnesses like, I don't know.

Do you get that feeling? My feeling about lincoln is that IT is who? I mean, the only thing that ever happens to me, i'm linking as I get a massive amount of people promising to give me sales leads, what I stant in .

my inbox .

in there from people who wants to sell me things. And I every time I marked them, is like spam. I get told by link didn't? No, no, no, no, no.

It's not spam that premium member can send you as many of those emails as they want to because that the whole point of lindon and then i'm like i'm about to delete my account because i'm not really, but I don't because I get to asked to like share my articles on there and stuff which to be fair, like that makes sense. But yes, I went one hundred percent feed one of my articles in the ChatGPT. Like you make me a linked in post because i'm not gna like not write a four paragraph.

So and is like lincoln rewards these long posts, which most people are really not going to get there, right? A A spoke post for lincoln, they are going to take their blog article or their news letter, just rather ChatGPT for D I do find my linton dms are all people that are podcast promoters. They all want to say, like, we can get bigger, more listeners for your podcast.

That's what they say. We we can get bigger listeners for your podcast, bigger listener listeners now going to be and then integram. Dm, in my request, it's all people saying like it's all the same message and IT also feels they are generated like, oh, I see that your youtube channel has some views, but your sum nails suck.

Would you like us to make you sumners? Or would you like us to edit video? Video edit for you? no.

yeah. Well, the weird thing for me about linton is, yes, I hundred person believe that most of the day I generated, like, I actually we wouldn't be surprised if half of the accounts on linked in or I generated. But like so is an interesting thing for publishers because I, all right, an article.

And then lindon has like these featured topics, right? And then take articles. So i've i've had articles in the past like around prime day or whatever was and I had like an article that got like eighty nine thousand impressions just and linked in.

But when you look at your like your stats for traffic, it's like, oh, there was like fourteen people who quit through to the article really give up. What's the point of that? Like how is that even useful? I can't get IT of the click to because here's the thing linked in rewards you for basically summarizing your entire article.

So why don't need to click through to read your article? You just had to write the whole thing, which is basically what you are musk said about act. Did you see the thing recently where he basically he confirmed, yes, we we devalue links.

If you want to put a link, put IT in your second post, put IT as a reply. But I think just linking out is lazy is basically what he said. And so what he wants you to do is pay for a premium account and then write your whole long form content on x.

It's like, I don't think any of those expand to read the full thing. I just know I actually like the blue sky actually has, I think, the shortest character limit now. And I kind like feeling that again, like, let me let me revise this post to actually make IT short.

I think I last I get more A I news. Zoom two point out the you're onna rebrand. You're going to be launch as an A I first company without video in its name.

Originally zoom was zoom video communications, and they gonna rebrand to just zoom communications with the big focus on A I. Of course, during the pandemic zoom, you know, stock Price usage, everybody got on zoom, and IT became you big with this, like everybody used IT. But now, several years later, as people are going back into the office and using less video conferencing, IT is not uh, growing as fast or even doing as well.

And so they want to rebrand. So it's not just video communications. And I have listen to the zoom, the C O that was on decoder and talking about how eventually you can just have an A I, A, A atr in your meetings.

I think this is literally something that zoom, I said, and somehow thinks they will be productive. They have a bunch of A I avatars of people talking about stuff as opposed to the real people. And that's gonna a feature that they're going to to use. I mean, no.

this this feels to me, okay, first of all, I love the fast company headline. Fast company is the sister publication of just for whatever it's worth. But they their headline is zoom just rebranded itself to zoom.

Like if you have to explain the subtlety, like first of all, in apple win, from apple computer to just apple ink, yes, I don't think that anyone had to explain what that met, right? IT was obviously that point. The iphone was the product that they were no longer to the computer company, fine.

But if you are like we went from being called zoom video communications into just zoom communications, like and you have to write a whole blog post to explain that, I don't really think you accomplish what you think you accomplish. And also, this really feels to me like a one trick pony that broke one of its leg, and now is trying to figure out what a three leg pony could do. So serious ly like, this zone is a thing.

This you are. This is your thing. You, you were successful because you did a thing Better than anyone else at the time.

No one use video calls like before. The pyne mic, like the the only people who had to sit through video calls were like pharmaceutical sales dropped. And maybe like people who are doing online college or something.

like just face time, like family, friends.

sure. Face time, yes, a hundred percent but different. You to my computer? Yes, I still to. I do the thing.

But zoom was like, boom, you cook on a link, which you actually that was, I think the the the change, because they used to be, you have to, like, type in this meeting code, and to this is me, you like, click a link. And if you didn't have the software download instantly for you. IT did some shady things to get around apples installation stuff.

But people were like, fine, just, I need to get meeting right? So I exploded and now it's it's like what we have to do other things and it's like maybe, maybe, maybe don't maybe don't have to do other things. If you could just keep doing this one thing really well, I don't know yeah .

I I tried to use zoom at least much as possible and apple doesn't use zoom. Apple uses webs .

like which is just my blowing because zoom is Better than .

web acs ah is IT. I mean, webbs is fine for me. I feel like when I I mean I don't mean I don't like any of them. I'm always curious why apple isn't use a face time link, which I know they don't have all the controls and like administrative, like waiting rooms.

Probably if only they knew someone who could add that stuff to their own product.

you can like if you didn't know, you can literally copy a link when you're in your face time call and anyone can join like a windows PC. Some can load that in your brother or someone on android phone like you can have one in A S you have thirty lus all right now for free and you don't get all the controls of stuff and whatever but yeah, I mean, you can do that but yeah, okay, zone. And I don't I mean, listen, I don't need A, I have a AR talking to another A I like, what are we even what are we doing?

Yeah, I feel like I had to have a meeting with my AI avatar after the fact to figure out what happened in the meeting that my AI avatar went to. Maybe you would just be easier for me to go to the meeting. I think I did write about this recently that it's if you're trying to come up with reasons to make IT easier for people to not go to meetings, maybe you should .

have less meetings list that. Thank you. Have less meetings. I cannot tell you i've working just before when there was a heavy meeting culture. And if you look at what job products are actually accomplished, the amount of hours spent on actually doing things is so small compared to just hours on meeting, preparing for the meeting, having the meeting.

Deep briefing about the meeting, finding out what actually are the action items from the meeting because no one communicates clearly often in those meetings like that's that's the job. Like your job is meetings. And I still remember africa where I heard this, but IT hats me to this day, like choosing a career is just deciding what you wanted email about, which is as as my youtube channels grow.

Now I do. I am just dealing with the emails now. And I maybe I should just have someone to deal with the emails because brains and stuff.

and I will say that that was the one killer feature of hey email is that they had a the gatekeeper was so good that you get to decide. And if you said, I don't want to hear from this person, you never heard from them again in Spark actually does that really well on the actual soft on the on the clients size, the side is really good up at that as well.

I did send you a link from this article that I wrote, which is basically how all of those A I note taking up because i've been in meetings where the person doesn't show up and is not their avatar that shows up, is just a robot that shows up in trans records and transcribes your meeting. And it's like you didn't care enough about this meeting to like not to show up and you're going to just record IT and you nothing says I don't care about you're meeting more than sending your robot to transcribe IT. That also it's really weird. It's like there's supposed to twelve us in this meeting and there's three robots and nine of us are like we should we keep talking because .

we can need that process.

The robot also, it's weird because it's like if you're in the meeting and like the meeting organizers, like we're gna record this meeting, I won't like get cool, that's what happens. But when someone else just send a robot and you know that that's recording, it's just know, don't don't just send your is .

the robot judging me doesn't have I don't know. You certainly does. Did the laughter of my joke in this meeting? That's really what's important anyway, all right, we're going to talk about, uh, a personal tech, which is a bunch of, listen questions. We ve got some great ones. Jason, ask me, what three shortcuts would I keep if I could only use three, which is send me on a spiral?

I wanted to say, this is how you know how well I know mo host is. I knew the question that was.

that was a good question. But before we do all that, I want to thank our friends. And this business ship was not planned.

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Even without that I T approval. But when they do that, IT opens their devices up to issues, malware, viruses, all of that and lessons the privacy security of the company as a whole. And that's when you get unmanaged devices, shadow I T apps, non employee identities and things like that.

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It's worth a shot. The one password dock of slide primary take the link is down in the show notes as well. And thanks to one password response ing this episode, we have a ton of listening questions.

Oh, before we do that, because Jason doesn't have a failure. Links, I want to play my own filium links. I will very, very proud of my black friday list.

I create a little amazon list here. You got a beer dot. F, M, slash gifts. And H, I put basically the only that like tech that I use and know, or there are great deals on, like apple devices. But uh, yeah, I put this list in the showed tes, because one it'll support.

H, me personally, you are supporting if you buy things from this, these, all the failure links, I try to people saying you're not like people don't a disclose the file links, capital A F F, these all feelings. But I will say airports are crazy deals for black friday. You can get airports pro two. Let's see what is that right now? Hundred and fifty three dollars, Jason, one hundred and fifty cheaper than airports, four with noise cancelling.

Or is that is that the version two with yes.

these are airports pro two with U S. B C.

Okay, one hundred, which is ridiculous that we have to like there are two versions of their points.

Pro two, just to be the ones and it's cheaper than airports. Four, with nose cancelling, which is one six you want. And i'll just mentioned anchor, this little anchor cable management things really fun, the little magnetic blocks, and you can put cables through IT. And then like a little mention thing and this hot crew driver, have you ever got to one of these?

No but I so I watched student video even is a really good video where he basically talks about all of these things um and I did I was like who I might have to put some of these things in my list. I might be sending Stephen to the links to everyone that I know and I buy anything on this list in its time but I the one I was interested in was the anker power prime power bank. And so I love that you're like, this is I charged my blinds.

First of all, the fact that you have to charge your blinds is just everything you need to know about Stephen, but secondly, that he bought this. Think that you can take to your board security because they will think it's obm for sure. Sure is what to use is two charges is great.

Is the anterior power banks, twenty seven thousand million hours. I charged my a smart chage with IT, but I also, uh, out you can charge my laptop. I can charge my laptop almost all the way if it's did and that's what happens like I go out on the pad, get to change .

my top in.

No, alright, we ever the rest shows are going to be entering your questions. Could get a ton questions. It's going be so on.

All i'm going to answer your question for us because the M V aspiring, you can only keep three shortcuts. What are they now further record, if I go to my shortcuts up right now, it's so bugging, I don't even know. It's going to show me a number for all shortcuts because there seven or eight, I have seven hundred and eight.

All the brain is too far up anyway, have seven hundred and eight shortcuts right here. There they are. A lot of them are request from people that what I make videos about.

But if I had to keep three shortcuts, I didn't nail IT down. Number one, I ve have a shortcut that helps me format the video descriptions for the riverside videos I do. And I make like three to four a week, and that saves me a ten of time.

And so I one hundred percent keep that one. And likewise, I have a second shortcut that formats are shown notes. So what I do is over done recording.

I have all of the links we talked about in a tab group, and I actually consume my screen. So you can see IT. If you don't watch doing good to youtube, come slack.

I primary text show you'll see here in the left side bar every past episode has a tab group wa here on the left because what I do is I can click the little three dots and there's a copy links option and that copies all the links to the tabs in that tab group. And then I have a shortcut that basically formats of showut. So formats, all the links that I want include, and also has all kind of like the boiler played stuff, include in every episode, like social protection.

I put our merchant there, I put on all the site is Normal in there, and then the shortcut lets me check box several articles, and then sends those articles to ChatGPT to get a title and description for the episode. And so once that shortcut is done running, I basically have the show notes, almost all finished, and I will resize the title and description because I don't like my ChatGPT does by default. But IT gets me started, and that saves me a ton of time, the singing way we can do the show every week.

So that shortcut is a key, key shortcut. And finally, I have a shortcut for when I record a video and that I use almost everyday, because not only does a run a home kit scene I run to hear from my little today view, IT turns the brightness on my iphone screen down to the perfect brightness to film with my settings. And like, just trying to figure that out every day would be a pain, the nick and then IT also jumps me to the display settings, so I put auto lock on, never so the screen doesn't turn off.

And then after three seconds, IT jumps me over to the accessibility display settings so I could disabled auto brightness. There is no shortcut actions to manage those directly, so I have to go to the settings pain. But there are U.

R. Schemes to jump to those settings. So what does that? So my phone is ready to be filmed.

And most of the videos I do, my phone is on screen. And that allows me to be ready to film super fast. Also runs my home kids scene to get out lights ready. So those the three .

shortcuts that, okay, I have three also, oh, okay, but only because I only have three shortcuts. Literally, I have three shortcuts. I have a shortcut that will unmask all of the hard drives so that if I brought record something or I currently i'm using this mac mini, but typically I use a laptop and it's Better to unmounted the drives before and plugged laptop from the studio display.

So I just have one IT is just this in my dock without a dot and IT. I just click on IT when I want to unmounted the tries. The second one is I have IT one that I only ever use my phone, because if I tap IT, IT just sends a text message to my wife that says, headed home. And then IT opened the maps APP and gives me directions from where where am to home, which is funny because I usually don't actually use that part, because they usually headed home from a place that I know how to get.

Yeah, yeah. right? Traffic actions for traffic. But IT is kind of nice.

And then the third one is a shortcut that I have that I can, that IT opens just a text field, I can type in an article idea, and IT creates a usis draft. With that, whatever I type in there is a headline. And then IT adds IT to things, to my list of articles that I need to write because that actually that shark cut is actually my action button.

My, because that happens a lot where i'm like, oh, you, I need I wanted to write about this thing. So so those are only three that I even have. I don't need add. You said something I think that was last week because they were a that notion has some shortcut integration really love is for that also then add that to my my I calendar IT work yeah yeah the notion actions .

they're new and you can now ask I would say on that um the one where you text your wife that your head at home, you know you could also get your travel time from your current location to home and .

take that I mean, sometimes .

that might want .

to stop somewhere.

Um alright, this was Jason from the community which you could join a social, that primary tech, T F, M, for free. And we have discussions over there to great time. Over two hundred people have joined the community, but he says, favorite non apple tech of the year, the favorite non apple tech, this is, this is stuff I I don't I don't have an answered yeah do you know is that got to be something .

introduced we can make because he didn't say someone was introduced this year?

I mean, if it's something that you just use all the time, I feel like that would also apply every not I would take else um I .

probably would go back to u yeah, I know i'm going to say no to find IT. This is ridiculous. Ridiculous though that this is my answer.

but it's true. No.

this is my favorite nine apple detect that I use all the time.

This is just .

the docking. Max f make safe thing to stick on the time of my laptop screen. I use IT. I use IT everyday. So I do, I actually like this.

I will say, okay, so two things. I was gonna reach was onna reach form, but I don't know my headphones might on plug. Let me see what I have over here.

I will say that my favorite battery anchor they made, like, make the perfect maxim battery. This is the ten thousand million power ultra slim, my gift list. Difficult that amazon link, but this is the best maxi battery. And I love maxi batteries not only for when I travel or if i'm going to like sea world later this week, i'm going to bring a battery gives my phone does. But even when you have people over the house, like for the holidays, if you have friends and family over and their phone is dying, rather than, say, go tether to a wall, just handing someone a battery, especially they don't know this exist. This is a really cool feeling and they're like, what you can just discharges my phone and yeah and so angry ics as perfected .

the the max say bad look like speaking of things, my one and my favorite thing.

i'm I am now a back only phone user. It's weird.

I used the, I used the no matter one.

I've been using the suit for the last week just to switch IT up, but I love the back home. I feels like I don't have a case.

but I have A, I will say, and i'd like IT more than I can explain. Why does the problem? What do you like that? I like, I absolutely love this. They like why like I have no idea. I cannot rationally explain why it's so great, but I just is.

I will say, I dropped my phone of the day and I was getting out of the car and IT slip out of my pocket and I had the no mad, let their only back, and as I go know what is going to happen. But I had my screen protector, on which I had not been a screen protector guy until this year. But with the back only i've been doing screen protector.

Screen was far less screen protector protected IT. But I did get a little nick on the corner of my iphone sixteen per max. I don't even if you've .

able to see IT, not really. You can even I draw in every day up off the back in what you.

what do you drop IT everyday? What are you doing?

I drop IT all the time. I don't really know why.

For a person .

who never uses the case, I drop my phone more than I should.

That apple.

apple care is my. I do exactly are.

This one was a good question. I think we need we both need to go to our eyes, cloud subscriptions. This person, Jason on x was asking how many subscriptions do we pay for? I feel like if we open IT up to outside of the apple subscriptions will be here forever because we have like the streaming services you pay for and then like whatever is frontier internet subscription. But anyway, but I feel like the subscriptions in attached to our eyes cloud account, maybe we could count those.

I mean, the first fifteen of them are all just .

apple care of apple care. One, two, three, four, five have eight apple care subscriptions. And I do the one, I do the monthly because I wanted to just go beyond the two years.

The one thing we don't have an apple subscription is my wife, apple watch S, C. And SHE just chucked IT across the in the other day. And so now now she's it's actually funny because she's using A A apple watch series nine that I don't never use for, but IT was it's sized for my she's wearing a phone on her watch.

Her phone is huge. So besides the apple care subscription, i'm not just run through there. I'm to run down mind.

And I have the apple one subscription. I pay for apple one premier apple podcast connect. You have to pay twenty dollars a year to offer subscription audio like bonus audio and ad free audio.

Twenty for that bear, I pay for bear fifteen dollars a year. A called at, I pay for call heat annually. Have my ChatGPT subscription in here.

I've been trying to crossed across, posting, uh across blue sky threats and master on fantastic coal, which I know people feel not the paying for calendars crazy, but I pay for fantastic cw power score, digital sheet music, uh, share shot or screen shots, great APP, good notes six I pay annually for, I pay itunes match. I did listen, I i've never going to stop paying for IT. I pay for ivory from mr.

Don, a magic lasso I actually still pay for. As my ad blocker, I have submit ed to my own bonus episode for movies on the side. My kids wanted IT and suggestions too, for us on paying myself.

Mind us, whatever apple takes. So my losing money on your own job. I really, really, I pay for the new york times games because I like to use the APP and have my state saved.

I'm paying for key for p cake this month because we wanted to watch the voice, but i'm paying for p cock for one month. I'm trying to cue the podcast APP. I pay four screens, five, the VC APP, if so far, transcription ist, uh, the Angel.

You can go listen a movie on the side for that. Watch smith, will smith, an apple watch, uh, apple custom things. And yeah, I think I think that's IT what i'm paying for.

A lot of things I didn't know is paying force. This is been helpful and depressing. It's been instructive.

I .

do. I mean, I an apple, the rob account in the apple one, I apparently at one point was paying for bear, but I did .

cancel .

that. Cali, uh, care, weather, yeah. Uh, ChatGPT, apparently I pay for drafts, which not gna do that anymore.

This is a great I, I used I great.

but I don't anything. Era, haven't somebody said you should check out drips? And I, anyway, fantastical final cup cup pro for ipad flie I, I pay for the match bonus episode because I, my children want to listen to because I know they don't know exist but I listen to IT and I like I isn't I also say and i'll say the bone episode of math is my favorite cast so just anyone it's true. Um photo matter. Oh yeah photo.

Ter, okay.

I cast an outcalling transmit which basically I is just like F T P thing. It's just basis for putting things on A W A W S.

like a cybernetic to the back trip. Its actually .

I don't pay for a trip providing more because I get a free subscription to, so to cancel that I have two trips whisper transaction, wig Smith and youtube premium which shows up as youtube music and I go to cancelled every single time and like oh, actually I want that because youtube premium the best deal yes.

that there is there's a few things I pay for directly like I pay for youtube premium, but directly through there thing so yeah, so that's what about not diverse show canceling is right?

I darted. Did I cancel fifteen while we're sitting? But no, you didn't ask the, if not iphone, what device would you want to use?

Oh sure. OK back. Yeah o so if not iphone, next question, if not iphone.

what device would you use? I think I would probably use the um galaxy fall real.

the galaxy fold. I thought you were going to go pixel well.

I think the pixel fold would be great, but there anyone to review yet? So i'm withholding judge.

You would like to follow though you like IT.

And if i'm going to go something that's not an apple vice, i'm going to go all the way and might because here's the thing, android tablets terrible. And so you might just get the best two in one combination thing you can get. So that's I think that's what I would do.

I would probably go google pixel 8 pro。 Is that does the latest one right? The nine I think on the nine, whatever the latest google pixel pro is because cameras great. I would want a pure android experience. That's probably what I do.

I would just say, yes, my favorite android phone ever is this one plus eight plus problem. I don't know. I can't remember what it's called. He was a terrible name. But the only reason I don't use this is my I phone to Carry around when I don't have a different one is because IT doesn't have five g and the thing I opposed we do with the second device because it's on google five and my phone as i'm horizon is IT gives me another option for tethering when I don't have a good option and one doesn't support five youd me you yeah one plus has some .

great phones for what .

I love this phone and it's it's like a great size. It's like basically the size of the iphone pro max, but like half the weight. Oh.

that's pretty slow. Okay, that's pretty good on that's good. Alright, thanks.

So on x saying what is one tech product that you can do without on a daily basis besides your phone? I would say my mac. I mean my max, where I got everything done.

I say my airports and I could use, I think I would prefer to use a windows PC before. I would not prefer to use a windows PC, but I would prefer to use the windows PC before.

I would prefer to not have your pots. Really, I see, I will.

because you will have a man all day long. Yeah, I were the, and I would actually ready, leave home with without my iphone. And I .

think, see if I was me. This is the john gruber question. Would you rather have an android phone in a mac or an iphone and windows? I would probably go android in mac because the mac is like final cut by added videos. Like I need that I need to o hijack, like to do the work that I do. Yes, you can find alternative tools, but I would be way more disruptive for me to figure out how to do IT with windows then just using an android home.

Yeah, that is that that makes sense. I I could do IT because mostly what I do is type words on to the internet. And that is the thing you can do fairly well, although he does bump me out. How many you don't think about this is a mac user. How many mac on the apps really are that are so .

good like you available really announced?

Yeah but like bear .

is not all the writing apple to want to use.

not. I have to use google dogs, and I do not want to write in google dogs.

I was to have favorite thanksgiving food. This is from Shawn on blue sky.

Puking pie, apple pie, pumpkin pie.

pumpkin kin. By pumping pie, people will prem on IT.

Yes.

of course.

do you wear pants when you leave the house? Like, come on.

uh, that's quick. Okay, I would say i'm torn. My mother makes a uh like a all man covered swe potato casual thing is really good as almost like a desert. But my wife makes a pumpkin cheesecake, and the pump and cheese cake is very good. So have .

one of them I would die for by.

We are, we were walking through we in indian apples. We are walking through this Christmas market. Our kids are going ice skating. And they had, like the toasted omen thing my wife so desperately wanted to buy.

And then just think, but I don't want to kill you today I was like, thank you and then for thinking, giving we're having her parents over and her mom loves, uh, the campi so SHE is going to make a camby and she's like, well, anyone else eat IT and my wife was like, probably not. Also Jason would die and so we bought her like a very, very small one. It's like it's the curious little thing. It's but it's weird to think that something could just make .

me dead make you did my wife is also definitely gic to pons and won that specifically and yeah whenever is like a roster around yeah Christa, like it's forget about IT yes, just in on blue sky. Some people were saying they are going to pronounce the blue sky like.

yes, no, that is the thing.

The logo that imagine the brain is literally a sky like this, a blue sky. Blue sky is a blue guy. Anyway, just in a blue sky was saying, what's one of your favorite items you own that doesn't require any power source? This is interesting.

So basically, like you're non techy item, this is still going to pull out. A techy item is going to say this phone. Kids.

no, it's easy. My, no. K, no. Yeah, this is my, this is the most important productivity to all I have.

Have you tried the remarkable stuff? I thought in the remarkable?

I reveal the remarkable one. And I have a friend who swears by the remarkable two k. And then there's now there's like the color one, right? And so I I would give you another shop, but I don't want to Carry another thing like he doesn't replace an ipad for me and so I want to say something .

like a little home pod stains I have on my outlets that hold the home pod meeting still. It's still connected to the thing. And i'm really stronger to think about things that I have that don't call her power, that are also related to the power. I do like this finder pillow. I put this in a lot of the background.

lot of my videos. I was just going to say.

the merch you're wearing right now pretty sweet. Oh yeah, P. T. merch.

You go primary that so much? No, I will say I really love reading a physical book on the patio and so i'll say my paddy o chair because I I would say the book, but I like reading multiple books and so yeah but hard to say I will say one of my favorite books just because, uh, creativity ink, if you've never read creativity ink is the story of pixar. Well, just going to is got on the back.

Yeah, I see right there. I recommend creativity, ug up, Carry on, blue sky asking smart home for Christmas decorations. Christmas decorations are like smart on.

I mean, not yet because we're not monsters or .

Christmas .

decorations not up. Yes, it's not that early. Probably will be up by the day.

Um we I was going to look them up, but we do have we just have switches that are up homework compatible. I I don't know what they are. There are probably something you recommended. So whatever you're about to partly what I have maybe um in their super reliable and only so as i've said before, we live in a very, very inclusive home.

We have all of the smart home things happening at the same time and all of the lights in the house are on the google system because you didn't have a hub, like if you had one of the next things like that, all just worked. But the thing you can't do very well on there is that routines. And what you can do really well on homework, IT, is that routines.

And so like we have the out, my office out here, his lights, and outside they are on the nutrition. And I can just set up shirt t or a whole automation that just come on. What I love about IT is, I say cut on one hour before sunset and stay on for three hours.

IT changes throughout the year. It's like perfect. And then for the Christmas lights, we just have all these old switches and they're all just set to like they come on at five forty five the morning and go off at seven thirty because that one's gone and then they come on again at like six and turn off at nine thirty. That's great. I love IT that is I don't I don't know they are i'm going .

about you talk okay yeah that I don't actually have lights outside. I been looking at some day like gov, I can get like you like long house lights and they are all smart. I ve got any those, but there is Christmas lights that my kids have in their rooms.

It's like stronger around their beds and those are on just smart looks. They're like the mary's smart plug. They turn on her off, you know at night they are a good night, good morning scenes and that's basically the extent. And yeah maybe i'll get some outside once this year, but just thought of having to hang about those .

things that yeah yes.

you find what .

they were the things that i'm to go to the the .

threads post which if you talking about engagement, we we get the most replies .

here on three saying I bought like five I want I bought two four packs of them so lots of them around.

They're good. They're a pretty salad. Like, all right, well, when I like maybe one or two more, they will save the rest for the bonus episode.

Would you going to go record? But I want to redo because p that mill through his test. What's your favorite everyday Carry non tech item? Similar question, uh, as before.

But I forgot, this is what I should say because i'm i'm so sad about this. This is the grove made task knife, and I absolutely loved this knife. They said IT to me like years ago, along with, like a desk matter, whatever.

And I just would keep IT here on my desk, and I would use this to unbox all the things and cut open boxes and tape and cut open packages. And I loved the design of this knife. The weight of IT felt great.

A little grove made logo. I love this knife and I took IT out of the office to unbox. I think the dream vacuum I recently did a video about, I now i've lost IT and I can't stand IT and i'm i'm closed to just rebuying IT because i've looked everywhere.

IT is not inexpensive. That is fifty six dollars. Although I think it's on sale.

It's Normally seventy dollars. So sounds to up for fifty six. But I just really, really liked in this knife. This is not a sponsored thing.

I just I really like IT and I and I said that I lost IT and I don't know where IT has gone. So yes, that's my favorite. You have everything care good.

Mine is sort of tech a Jason. So i'm i'm gonna go there anyway. But I bought this little is from no mad, but it's basically just a kitchen yeah but it's just USB c tiny little thing that I always have and I like sticks together to fit in a pocket perfectly. So I guess it's technically non tech, but it's not like a device or git. But I really like this little guy is really useful.

I use that all the time, do you? So like you use all the time, but I think super short, right?

Yeah but it's perfect device like sitting at my laptop. And I just need to like plug the phone and roque or plug something else into a rocquaine. And I don't need like one of these super long cables or whatever.

And it's also nice because IT just always is in my in my bags. So I always have this with me basically. So may be maybe it's a terrible idea.

I don't know know that I keeps seeing IT around and I was like the verge ous gift guide and I thought about IT cool. I don't know. I would use IT no, I I would say there is a um I saw isn't a good gift guide and I can't I can't find a right now.

But there was like a an electric title and like an electric a kedo. But I was like, stupid expensive. He was like a hundred and fifty books, like a really nicely designed one.

And I illiterate. Al, I mean is no reason to get when that expensive. I have a twenty other one and IT eats the water just fine.

But just to IT boils, boils.

that looks just cool. Yes, I think looking over all the questions here on threads may will just do this in the bonus episode o but the apple rumor were most excited about how does one go about starting their own website or blog that's interesting. Will do that.

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