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Postmortem

2025/1/15
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Prosecuting Donald Trump

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Andrew Weissmann: 我认为法官梅尔尚在法律框架内做出了他唯一能做的决定。然而,我们必须反思公职人员是否应该凌驾于法律之上。即使在针对其他被告的案件中,我们也从未见过这样的情况,即投票结果会影响刑事判决。这引发了关于法律应该如何运作以及我们希望生活在什么样的社会中的重要问题。史密斯报告第一卷的发布没有带来很多新的证据,但它深入探讨了特别检察官团队的思考过程和对起诉决定的考量,包括对特朗普可能提出的各种抗辩的分析。特别检察官团队仔细考虑了这些抗辩,并解释了为什么他们认为这些抗辩不会成功。此外,我仍然对未被指控的叛乱罪感到担忧,这可能导致特朗普被禁止再次担任总统。参议院未能定罪特朗普,以及最高法院的总统豁免权裁决,是导致目前局面的原因之一。史密斯特别检察官应该举行新闻发布会,以提高公众对报告的理解和信任。 Mary McCord: 最高法院驳回特朗普的暂缓执行判决申请,理由是所谓的证据错误可以通过正常的上诉程序处理,并且判决不会影响候任总统履行职责。法官梅尔尚的判决强调了陪审团裁决的重要性,即使总统的职位带来了特殊的保护。史密斯报告探讨了如果特朗普没有再次当选,结果会如何。司法部长加兰德决定不公开发布史密斯报告第二卷,是基于史密斯特别检察官的建议,并且遵循了司法部关于未结案件的政策。然而,我认为司法部对纳塔和德奥利维拉的案件处理方式不当,应该公开发布第二卷报告。这不仅关系到公众知情权,也关系到国家安全。史密斯报告第一卷没有揭露新的证据,而是重点阐述了特别检察官团队的思考过程和对起诉决定的考量。未对特朗普提出叛乱罪指控的原因是诉讼风险和无需该指控即可追究特朗普责任。

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While this podcast’s name has changed, this week’s episode revolves around all things prosecuting Donald Trump. After a detailed review of Judge Juan Merchan’s reasoning and limitations for sentencing the president-elect after his New York criminal conviction, veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord wind through the barrage of motions in Florida to block the release of both volumes of Special Counsel Jack Smith’s final report. After underscoring why Volume Two-- concerning the now dismissed classified documents case-- is still under wraps, they dig into the finer points of Volume One, released to the public at 1:00 a.m. Tuesday morning. This first volume lays out the facts and the law as it relates to Trump’s DC election interference case which has also been dismissed, though Smith writes, "but for Mr. Trump's election and imminent return to the Presidency, the Office assessed that the admissible evidence was sufficient to obtain and sustain a conviction at trial."

Further reading: Here is Volume One) of Jack Smith’s final report.

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