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Project 2025 in Action

2025/1/21
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Prosecuting Donald Trump

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Andrew Weissmann: 我认为特朗普对所有与1月6日国会大厦袭击事件相关的被告进行大赦,是对美国司法系统的严重冲击。这甚至超出了我们之前预期的范围。赦免令可分为三类:完全赦免、减刑和撤销指控。其中,完全赦免的对象超过1500人,其中包括174名被控使用致命或危险武器或对警官造成严重人身伤害的被告。这不仅是对司法程序的蔑视,也向那些对执法人员使用暴力的人发出了错误的信号。此外,白宫直接指示司法部撤销某些案件,这表明司法部已经不再独立于白宫。这与特朗普政府的言论形成了鲜明对比,他们声称司法部将独立运作。 我特别关注的是对那些对执法人员使用暴力的被告的大赦,以及白宫直接指示司法部撤销案件的做法。这不仅是对司法程序的蔑视,也向那些对执法人员使用暴力的人发出了错误的信号。司法部和联邦调查局将如何应对那些受到威胁或袭击的警官和证人,这仍然是一个悬而未决的问题。 总而言之,特朗普的这些行动是对美国司法体系的严重冲击,它削弱了司法独立性,并可能导致未来的暴力行为。 Mary McCord: 我认为拜登总统在就职典礼前对福奇、米利将军、1月6日调查委员会成员及其工作人员以及作证的警官进行赦免是必要的,以防止他们遭到特朗普的报复。这并非意味着这些人有任何不当行为,而是为了保护那些为正义发声的人。 然而,特朗普的行政命令,特别是试图取消出生公民权的命令,是令人震惊的。这不仅违反了宪法第十四修正案,也对许多人的生活产生了重大影响。我们已经准备好了相关的法律诉讼,以挑战这一行政命令。 此外,特朗普政府的行政命令中,还包括一个旨在结束联邦政府武器化的命令,以及一个暂停对TikTok禁令执行的命令。这些命令都表明,特朗普政府正在试图削弱政府机构的独立性,并利用政府机构来打击其政治对手。 总而言之,特朗普政府的这些行动是对美国民主制度的严重威胁,我们必须采取行动来保护我们的民主制度。

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Within hours of Donald Trump’s inauguration, numerous executive actions were signed and over 1500 pardons were issued for nearly all of the January 6th defendants, despite his vice president and attorney general nominee suggesting a more refined approach. So, on this first full day of Trump’s second term, hosts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord review the blunt nature of these pardons, especially for those convicted of violent acts that day. Then they turn to pardons issued by President Biden in his final hours in office to shield those targeted by Trump for retribution- including members of Congress, those who testified in the J6 investigation, and members of his own family. And finally, Mary and Andrew dive into the myriad of executive actions signed by Trump as legal challenges begin to mount around things like getting rid of birthright citizenship, using the military domestically at our border, undoing the TikTok ban and the creation of DOGE.

Further reading: Here is Mary’s recent write up in the Atlantic: A Sweeping January 6 Pardon Is an Attack on the Judiciary)

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