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Audio Edition: Heat Destroys All Order. Except for in This One Special Case.

2025/6/5
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Susan Vallett: 物理学家发现了一种理想化的磁性形式,它在理论上是真正耐热的。这意味着即使在极高的温度下,这种物质的有序模式也不会崩溃。这一发现挑战了我们对热力学基本原理的认知,并可能对宇宙学和量子技术产生深远影响。 Fabian Renecke: 即使这种效应只存在于理论中,它也令人震惊。因为我们通常认为高温会破坏秩序,但这个发现颠覆了这一认知。它表明,在某些特殊情况下,热量实际上可以稳定甚至增强秩序。 Jörg Schmalian: 我对如何找到这种耐热磁性的具体实现方式非常感兴趣。如果能在现实中创造出这种物质,它将为我们提供一种全新的方式来控制和利用量子现象。这可能会导致新一代的超导材料和量子设备。 Zohar Komargotsky: 最初,我认为任何形式的秩序都会在足够高的温度下崩溃。但与 Eliezer Rabinovitchi 讨论后,我们开始研究是否存在例外情况。我们发现,通过将原子排列成特殊的结构,并利用自由旋转的箭头来稳定磁序,我们可以在理论上创造出一种永不融化的磁性。 Michael Scherer: 我们通过恢复概率的完整性,并忽略某些轻微的磁相互作用,证明了这种耐热磁性的存在。虽然我们的证明还有一些局限性,但我相信它为未来的研究奠定了坚实的基础。现在的问题是,我们该如何利用这一发现? Francesco Sanino: 这一发现为我们研究宇宙的诞生提供了一个新的工具。它表明,即使在宇宙的早期,也可能存在一些高度有序的结构。此外,我对独立发现的耐热秩序的证据感到兴奋,这进一步证实了这一理论的重要性。

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This chapter explores the unexpected discovery that an idealized form of magnetism can theoretically withstand any level of heat, challenging conventional understanding of thermodynamics. It examines historical curiosities and previous attempts to explain this phenomenon, setting the stage for the main discovery.
  • Heat typically destroys order and patterns.
  • Previous research showed exceptions in liquid helium and Rochelle salt, but order was still destroyed at higher temperatures.
  • Weinberg's quantum theory of heat-resistant order also failed above a certain temperature.

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Welcome to the Quanta Audio Edition. In each of these bi-weekly episodes, we bring you a story direct from the Quanta website about developments in basic science and mathematics. I'm Susan Vallett. Heat is supposed to ruin anything it touches. But physicists have now shown that there is a substance that is truly heat-proof, and it's an idealized form of magnetism. That's next. ♪

Quantum Magazine is an editorially independent online publication supported by the Simons Foundation to enhance public understanding of science. Sunlight melts snowflakes. Fire turns logs into soot and smoke. A hot oven will make a magnet lose its pull. Physicists know from countless examples that if you crank the temperature high enough, structures and patterns break down.

Now, though, they've cooked up a striking exception. In a string of results over the past few years, researchers have shown that an idealized substance resembling two intermingled magnets can, in theory, maintain an orderly pattern no matter how hot it gets. The discovery might influence cosmology or affect the quest to bring quantum phenomena to room temperature.

Fabian Renecke is a researcher at the Institute for Theoretical Physics in Gießen, Germany, who wasn't involved in the work. He says the idea that such an effect is possible, even if only in theory, hits you in the face because it's not what you expect. Jörg Schmalian, a physicist at the Karlsruhe Institute of Technology in Germany, is intrigued too. He says he's thinking about how to find a concrete realization of this framework.

The discovery was sparked by an audience question at a lecture at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem in 2019. Zohar Komargotsky, a physicist visiting from Stony Brook University, had commented that any form of order, such as the regular spacing of atoms in a solid or the alignment of atoms in a magnet, inevitably breaks down at sufficiently high temperatures,

An audience member, Eliezer Rabinovitchi of Hebrew University, asked Komargotsky if he was certain this was true. After the talk, the two began to collaborate along with other colleagues.

They weren't the first physicists to wonder. In the 1950s, Isaac Pomeranchuk had calculated that slightly heating supercooled liquid helium-3 atoms would make them freeze. A crystal known as Rochelle salt, which is used as a laxative, shifts to a more ordered structure at warmer temperatures.

Curiosities like these motivated the physicist and future Nobel laureate Steven Weinberg to develop an idealized quantum theory of heat-resistant order in the 1970s. But in both liquid helium and Rochelle salt, further heating destroys that order. And Weinberg's theory also failed above a certain temperature. Was it possible for some pattern to persist forever, no matter how hot it got?

Komargotsky, Rabinovich and collaborators tried to find out. The physicists homed in on something many of us experience in our lives every day: magnetism. Picture a bunch of atoms arranged in a square grid. Each atom acts like a mini-magnet, with a north pole that points up or down. If the atoms line up in some pattern, all pointing the same way, for instance, the material has magnetic order.

Imagine laying this grid directly on top of a second atomic grid. These new atoms can swing freely, pointing in any direction, as opposed to only up or down. Nearby atoms will interact, with ripples in one grid triggering ripples in the other. Now, zoom out until the grid lines disappear and the system becomes a smooth sheet, a quantum field.

The atoms have vanished, but the field still has two magnetic arrows at every point, one pointing straight up or down, and another pointing in any direction. It's this kind of idealized field that researchers realized could maintain magnetic order at every temperature. Under cool conditions, the up-down arrows nudge each other into alignment, all up, let's say, while the freewheeling arrows point in random directions.

As the temperature rises, one would expect the thermal energy to start flipping all the arrows violently, washing out any alignment. But it doesn't. The free arrows pinwheel around more, stabilizing the magnetic order in the up-down arrows. And this arrangement survives even as the temperature climbs higher for all eternity. The magnetic order never melts away.

A caveat is that the trick seems to work best when the freewheeling arrows have a great deal of freedom. Komar Gotsky imagines arrows that are free to point in any direction in an abstract space of hundreds of dimensions. But these don't have to be literally directions in real space. They represent all the ways the field can vary mathematically from point to point.

In 2020, Komargotsky and collaborators calculated that magnetism will endure in this system up to infinite temperatures. But there was one problem: their math relied on the assumption that probabilities don't have to add up to exactly 100%. That's a physical and logical impossibility.

They gave up the search for a more solid proof until this past fall, when a team of European physicists, Michael Scherer, Jun-Chin Rong, and Bilal Hawassian, advanced the case. They restored 100% probabilities, at the price of ignoring certain mild magnetic interactions, and found that order persisted for arrows spinning through as few as 15 abstract dimensions.

Their work inspired Komargotsky and a new collaborator, Fetter Popov, to return to the problem and finally find a rigorous proof of the unmeltable order that overcomes all previous shortcomings. They posted a preprint of a paper describing the work in December 2024. Scherer thinks the new proof will hold up, but he says the question is, what do we do with it now?

Knowing that order can theoretically survive any amount of heat might influence theories of the universe's birth. The typical story is that order developed as the inferno of the young universe cooled, but the recent work highlights stranger possibilities. Francesco Sanino, a physicist at the University of Southern Denmark, says this adds new theories to the toolbox that scientists can use.

Sunino has independently found proof of heat-resistant order in fundamental quantum theories. The new way of heat-proofing quantum patterns may also inspire physicists who study delicate phenomena like superconductivity, a phase in which electric current flows with no resistance.

Normally, heat disrupts the quantum ordering that makes superconductivity possible, limiting its applications. But maybe in a material that borrows key features from the magnetic theory, perfect currents could be made to endure rising temperatures.

Michael Kenyon Logo helped with this episode. I'm Susan Vallett. For more on this story, read Charlie Wood's full article, Heat Destroys All Order Except for in This One Special Case, on our website, quantummagazine.org.

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