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Global Macro: The Next Era of Market Growth ft. Ben Miller

2025/1/22
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通过Fundrise,Ben Miller将曾经仅限于精英投资者的房地产投资机会开放给普通投资者,实现了房地产投资的民主化。
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Ben Miller: 我认为市场目前最主要的担忧在于经济、房地产和市场走向的不确定性。我们关注的焦点在于关税、税收、赤字以及银行监管的放松。这些问题目前都还没有明确的答案。长期利率的巨大波动,主要源于市场对高额赤字的担忧,这可能会持续影响经济。在过去的24个月里,市场经历了对经济衰退的预期,以及随后的不确定性。目前市场认为经济衰退已被避免,但利率将保持在较高水平。市场对利率的预期与美联储的预测存在显著差异,市场预期利率将维持在较高水平,而美联储预测利率将在未来几年下降。持续高额的财政赤字是市场的主要担忧,如果赤字得不到控制,可能会对股市和经济造成严重影响。通货膨胀正在下降,并将会持续下降,利率上升更多的是由于市场对美联储预期以及政府大量借贷的影响。我对政府是否能够控制赤字持谨慎态度,因为这需要政府做出艰难的财政决策,而这在历史上并不常见。放松银行监管可能是刺激经济的最快方式,但也可能是最不明智的方式,因为它存在着巨大的风险。长期高额的财政赤字和债务是结构性问题,短期内可能带来经济增长,但长期来看会对资本市场和风险资产价格造成负面影响。要真正解决财政赤字问题,需要改革社会保障制度、医疗保险制度和国防开支,并可能需要提高税收,但这些目前都不在议程上。提高政府效率,特别是改善IT基础设施和系统,可能对长期经济增长产生重大影响,但需要很长时间才能看到效果。资本市场擅长预测线性变化,但对非线性变化的预测能力很差,这在AI等快速发展领域尤为明显。放松银行监管可能导致金融危机,因为这会增加银行的风险承担行为。2008年金融危机就是一个例子。银行贷款比例的上升可能刺激经济增长,但也存在风险。软件公司估值与其营收增长率和营业利润率密切相关,高增长率和高利润率的公司估值更高。目前公开市场上高增长率的软件公司数量较少,而市场更看重盈利能力。软件行业整体增长率下降,许多公司不再追求高增长,而是更注重盈利能力。AI的发展模式与互联网的发展模式类似,都将经历基础设施建设、平台构建和应用开发三个阶段,最终市场将高度集中。AI应用开发面临三大挑战:数据访问、与现实世界的交互和专业知识的获取。房地产价格目前相对较低,而股市价格相对较高,这与以往的市场趋势不同。 Ash Bennington: 引导讨论,提出问题,并对Ben Miller的观点进行回应和补充。

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This chapter analyzes the macroeconomic landscape following Trump's inauguration, focusing on the implications of tariffs, taxes, deficits, and bank deregulation on markets and the economy. The discussion highlights the market's concerns about long-term interest rates and the potential for a vicious cycle involving rising deficits and interest rates.
  • Market uncertainty following Trump's inauguration.
  • Concerns about tariffs, taxes, deficits, and bank deregulation.
  • Long-term interest rates rising due to market fears of high deficits.
  • Potential for a vicious cycle of rising deficits and interest rates.
  • Uncertainty around government actions and their impact on the economy.

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Ash Bennington sits down with Ben Miller, founder of Fundrise, to discuss the major macro scenarios that will shape markets in 2025. From increased volatility under the Trump administration and a potential soft landing for Real Estate to AI and hyperscaler platforms, they explore where investors can capture the next stage of market growth.

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