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#134 The Year of the Wallop

2019/1/17
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Alex Goldman
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Jason Mantzoukas
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PJ Vogt
一位公众广播和播客领域的知名主持人,曾主持《Reply All》和《Search Engine》等播客。
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Alex Goldman: 新年计划是去拳击馆学习拳击,体验被击倒的感觉,并了解身体在被击倒时的反应。他还想通过拳击健身。他详细描述了对被击倒过程的想象,以及醒来后可能出现的迷失和疼痛感。 PJ Vogt: 他的新年计划是减少冲突,并提高处理冲突的效率。他分享了与邻居、州议员和送餐员发生的冲突,以及他如何处理这些冲突。他还谈到了自己对持有‘敌人清单’的看法,以及一些与冲突和怀恨相关的个人经历。 Jason Mantzoukas: 他作为特邀嘉宾主持推特上的'是是而非'环节,解读了一条关于查克·西·约翰逊的推特。他详细解释了自己对哈利·波特系列的热爱和了解程度,并参与了对该推特的讨论,其中涉及到哈利·波特世界观中关于巫师如厕方式的讨论,以及查克·西·约翰逊的个人经历和丑闻。

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Alex Goldman discusses his audacious New Year’s resolution to get punched in the face and experience being knocked out, while PJ Vogt struggles to find his own resolution.
  • Alex wants to experience being knocked out to understand the physical sensation.
  • PJ is skeptical about the value of New Year’s resolutions and prefers not to set them.

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From game, let this reply our mp j vote.

and i'm out school.

Okay, before we start the show, do you know I wanted talk to you? I have no idea. First vote in new year.

Okay, welcome. Thank you. You made. Do you member what your new years resolution was last year?

I don't. What did I say something on the radio?

Not that I recalled.

So like i'm you're not holding me to some crazy stand.

Ah you were never give them. And again, no, I don't remember what I was.

I A lot of them and I was this year.

Do you have a new resolution this year?

I'm not like a resolution guy, but at the same time, I feel like that's a cop out because every year, i'm like, okay, this isn't a resolution. I'm just going to do this independent of new years because I don't want any pressure to be put on myself. So .

first step, no, I want to hold me for making any jam.

No, I just don't want to be LED in with expectation yeah that like i'm going to transform as a human being.

You want IT to be boyland with anticipation that you want.

I'm sorry. What great.

So oh, I get IT.

Yeah, I joined a boxing gym because I want to start boxing.

And why? How come?

Just want to just want to be in a situation where. This was going to mess up the whole. I, Sarah, my wife, I apologised for saying this in advance, because pretty good to figure out to here. okay? I really want to know what IT feels like to get knocked out.

like you want to be fully like knocked out .

like in the movie. I want to be keo. You know, like, have you ever seen those crazy videos of street fights were like one guy is stuffing to another guy.

The other guy just just like to just clock him and then he immediately turns into a statue and just fall straight over what kind of crazy bottle like why is your body doing that? I want to know. I think it's .

possible that getting punch in the face and being asked out is not going to answer the question of what happens to your body when you're neck out because I feel like what's going to happen is you're going to feel panic and pain and then nothing. And then you'll just get the experience of what is IT like to wake up really disoriented and in pain.

I mean, to be fair, I also wanna get into Better shape. The classes are brutal. Man.

how much? How much of this is? Culv, how much this is?

How much do I want to get? Well, up, this is, how much do I, anna, get in shape? I'm going to say, sixty, forty, getting in shape, to be honest. OK, that's Better.

Do you have a new year resolution? I've been trying to find one. I've been trying to find one. I think I have one, okay, but i'm trying to limit my fuge.

What do you like? I field looking for A A coy. I field .

trying not to look for a coy. What kind of fields do you have? I like a lot of small views, not a big future. But I am a person .

of many small views without without disclosing the names of the people you are fusing with, right? Well.

tell me one of my neighbor's about what? I didn't say hello to him for a while because I just didn't want to like, I just didn't feel like whatever. And he's like kind of drunk sometimes and he started getting regressive about me saying hello so then I didn't want to say hello, even more like I I have headphones when you be like.

oh, you don't say hello to me .

is that will not I don't say hello out of this situation but then I said hello to him. And now we're having totally nice conversations as if, like, the super aggressive thing never happened. What was screaming at me all the time? All right, we added a fuse of food. But then i've got another feed with this guy who has like, I think he's like a state assembly man, however, but he parks illegally outside the coffee shop all the time the way I find very unsafe and I glared him .

and you know.

he's a state assembly because he's got like a special license. Play anything as dash for and like why are you advertising that? You're being a jerk.

So how are you going to defuse that?

I'm not defusing that. I'm holy on that view and other views that I don't holly see myself. I can go now this is is like the delivery guy for the chinese food place has a thing where where this battle of I promptly come to the door when the door will rings or myself phone rings and he's got this thing where he's started trying to call me lake.

He's like a couple .

blocks away yes, so i'm standing outside like in a robe feeds very cold, freezing yeah and then and then he gets there and he's like trying to make me come down to the car and he noticed, not like, super sympathy. I like this service in this three person is not doing good of job. But do I use liver food, walk girs and not messing with me? Yeah, I don't know I what to go any of these views. I think thing I wanted do is be more efficient in my future and figure out who i'm felting with in that anybody else.

I think that's .

a noble goal but I feel like .

I was talking to my dad this weekend and somehow you came up really yeah and I was like, I would hate to be on pjs bad side because he's like a cunning person who never lets anything go. He's like a person who I feel like you, I feel like you have the corkboard with the red, with the red twin connecting stuff machinations for, like, everyone who's ever wrong you like you are definitely a nixon. I don't doubt you have an enemy's list.

Oh, you know, you have to have me this because the thing is, if you don't have an enemy's list and somebody else game this advice, but like the reason have an enemy's list is that tells you who did not care about like an enemy list isn't so you get super long. You get an enemy's list. You keep IT short. And then when somebody testing a bother to your, like, an enemy list, no, I don't care.

This is the most insane thing i've ever heard.

There is a person on my enemies list who's been their sense. Second grade, he beat me up. I ran away crying into what I thought was the bedroom IT wasn't IT was the ladies room and then he stood outside the ladies room yelling and making fun of me until I came out the latest room also crying and then I got taller than him.

Let me tell your story. Yeah about about enemies holding grudges. fudge.

Uh, you to have a roommate is me, is Jamie sebou. A he actually was born Jamie Green. His parents were together. what? We're not married.

so he had his his name be materie OK like a bible story where you have to say everyone became from.

So he was born Jamie Green. His parents got married. Changed name Jamie swot. He is like nineteen, sitting at a Dennis with some friends.

Three, in the morning, the guy walks up to go here, you Jimmy Green. He says, yeah, I used to be. The guy pulled his arms back and punches him as hard as he can in the face. No discussion helped.

And SHE is like, who are you? What you doing? And the guys like you pushed me off the swings in the third grade.

yes. And he walked away. Yes, is that u .

pg kind of you're .

at your mind?

I feel like I ve told myself out my resolution. Okay, you get well, i'll just need to be the .

same person for one more year. Sounds create.

okay. Coming up, I know we have a special guest, so let's just get the ads out the way first.

welcome. Once again, yes, has note the segment on the show where Normally our boss alex bloomberg comes to us with stuff from the internet. He doesn't stand. We tried to explain IT to him, but this week we have a big hollywood star, chaste mans.

U. S, yeah, that's right. Bluto much of a coward in twenty nineteen to come on the, yes, yes, no.

So I get the call. I'm here. I'm ready to rock. gentlemen. It's incredibly .

professional of you. I ish. We could expect the same .

from our boss guys. Here I am in hollywood, california, mere steps away from the walk of fame grandma's chinese theater. The hollywood sign IT is relending IT does feel like a .

much more glamorous as .

now I know already he does, right? I imagine the entertainment .

tonight theme in a tuxedo alex .

is wearing one of his hoodie says, wave, you are staying on. Alex is actually wearing a hoddy just, you know, Jason, there's literally an eye art new york such here. They like a tours where, or like a kidnapper who is changing out of .

bloody cloth .

and who needs something to wear, but still at stained. yes. So again.

where is there .

are staying next to the hard?

I eat a dose for lunch.

Like for we new eight a dozer for lunch in your, in your White sweater.

It's a black sweaters.

So you thought you .

were saying I do for lunch is not like, therefore, and staying .

that is not like.

because spotty without his phone.

Well, yeah.

not for you. Like dogs very should be very easily eaten without, like, without you could here's the thing you have, what a levin children blame IT on. One of them just be like, you know, it's hard when you've got fourteen kids running around.

I mean, I do that, but that doesn't hold water for pj. He's just like he thinks that the very fact that my clothes have stains all over them means that I should probably change them. And i'm like, i've got too many kids to .

change my clothes. Here's the deal. Both of you are right. You pages right. You should change your stained close when you're at work, especially because it's possible.

It's possible that at some point one of those stains is like your children's shit. Yes, it's very possible. Like how likely is that that there's like a smear of turd on your sleeve and you're coming to work like, do, do, do, do. Oh H, I think it's a dosa. I had a do suffer lunch, I think very much .

as a twenty percent chance.

You guys are you guys are literally a disaster.

Yeah, it's really gross.

It's really this show is like falling apart. You're lucky. I'm here holding this show together, right?

Third official host of reply all Jason man zuker here with the yes, yes, no coming from twitter. That's right. I'm run in the god damn segment now.

We also gave you access to Alexis twitter account because you don't Normally use twitter.

I'm not on social media, still not on social media.

okay. So what have you got for us today?

Okay, here we go from twitter dot com. Ah IT is a tweet from, uh, the person, his twitter handle, twitter name. I'm not sure how you what IT is is done.

I mean, I have lost a piece of paper. I was the dinner OK. Such a low tech. yeah. okay. So this this comes to us from twitter um this this twitter's name is please at me for access to my powerful brain and then IT is at Chris season and the sea and the sea are both capitalized and then the tweet is hua coma didn't realize chuck sea Johnson went to hug wards. Just goes to show you there's a little magic in all of us.

All right. So OK.

Pj.

vote. Do you understand this tweet mostly? yeah. okay. J, to understand this tweet.

listen as someone who who didn't go to hogwarts. A I went bobo, um the all female magic school .

um is that place? Yes really?

Yes yes. I mean, I didn't go to dim string guys. Not right to see dark magic.

We're talking to like a real we're talking to like a Harry potter efficient.

I literally can't tell if these are like very good fake Harry potter specifics or no.

These are real Harry part specifics. What you guys don't know is that I am an enormous Harry potter fan and and if you're wondering that doesn't make any sense because you are a forty six year old, childless man and jc, i'm here to say IT is uncomfortable. How much I know about Harry potter?

How did you get into IT?

I got into IT. I would do every year. I would come out for pilot season in los Angeles. I lived in new york, and I would come out to last Angels for auditions when it's like the busy season of the year for TV shows.

And on those drives, I started listening to audio books, and I started listening to the Harry potter books because they're like, twenty six hours long, so was perfect. And then in ye's subsequent, I found them so comforting that I will repeatedly. Now I just have relied ens to the entire series of audio books again.

Wow, man, you are committed. Yeah.

i'm very into IT in a way that is, I find so satisfying in my life, but also so, so sad and weird, because I will frequently find myself in super in depth technical conversations about Harry potter law with my friend's children.

Like what devil .

conversation it's like a usually starts with .

they don't think I know much about Harry potter. Then we get into a debate about Harry potter. Then IT becomes trivia contest, and then IT becomes, I shame them and then we get them, oh, because I will mate kids on everybody.

You just don't fuck with me and and then we bond over IT. And then IT just becomes like the thing I want to talk about with them the most because they get excited about IT and i'm excited about IT. And then I abduct those children and we live happily ever after in a sub u outback with plates from euro. Well, i'm very excited .

about this particular yes, has no then because IT deals directly with Harry potter law.

Great, let's let's get into IT.

And I say, do I? I was going, yes, I understand you. Thank you.

Okay, so so we were IT, yes. Harry potter? Yes, but maybe not the rest of the tweet.

Yes, because I don't know who chucky Johnson is and I don't know what yeah .

could be like I could be like a the Harry potter fan fishing character.

Okay, so here's something too. So so i'm seeing so he tweet this um january fourth, somebody tweet him back. I thought he went to troll wards.

Okay, so that makes me think, chuck, see, Johnson is a troll. Then the guy goes, he went to the school where you puppy on the floor, let. Me ask, now i'm going to ask you guys this, do you know what this person is referring to? Do you know what referred to? Yes.

yes. okay. So one part of this tweet definitely has to do with Harry potter. But within this tweet is an entire separate, holy, unrelated drama that I will get you. But let's start with every potter part first. So being a huge herry poter phant Jason, you probably know that JK rolling is kind of notorious for, like once all the books came out basically saying things after the fact about care yes, that were never revealed in .

the book yes every year um SHE apologizes for certain characters, deaths SHE read on certain characters, storylines or ads um adds further information to a lot of a lot of the characters that you might know in love.

right? So and do you follow that stuff because it's internet but a Terry potter?

So like, which, yeah, pj, yeah, follow that stuff. okay. Yes, pj, I was in my thirties when these books started coming out. Yes, I was an adult.

Do you have a pottery log in?

Can we not worry about IT if you're if you're trying to find out what my patronus is, i'm not telling you'll have to be in my presence when I think of something happy and scream, expect of a and then and then immediately burst into tears because IT reminds me of the scene in the books when the Harry rescue, serious from the demand doors. Guys, he thought I was his father, but IT was himself. come.

This is really overwhelming for me because i've never read any of them.

really.

We're not friends anymore. You've never read them.

No, they are really listen to the audio books.

listen to the other books. Okay, so I know the part is that I know is I know that like a few weeks ago, J. K. Willing to like a weird update to hair part metal logy. So IT .

wasn't on JK. Rowling, twitter is actually on the pottery twitter, and I didn't know if that was at the time. But like what I found out after reading people between and commenting on IT is that potter's ore is like the online universe of Harry potter's ff. Like it's like a website and it's got like a jacket rowling write on IT and there's like law about the series on there right? So um on january forth the potter more twitter account tweet the following information Jason hog words did noise have bathrooms before adopting muggle plumb ing methods in the eighteen century, which is in wizards simply relieve themselves whether they stood and vanished, the evidence hashtag.

national trivia day. This has been something that's been discussed in the past that I think is patently ludek ous and IT gets at a thing where people really start to pick up part the this world looking for, like, oh yeah, why if magic exists, why do they have muggle plumbing? Like, why would they need that much? And there this is. It's so upsetting to me that that the magical world, the western world weather has either sitting on the floor as an option, or like plummet, or like functional muscle pluming. Those are the only options to getting rid of your own waste, like a magical toilet.

correct?

correct. You should you shit in a toilet and the toilet vanishes. The terms or whatever. But the idea that they are putting forth is wizards, wizards who are fucking wizards, are like, oh, you know what, i've got a drop, a duce. You know what, i'm going to do squat here in my office and then wave my one over IT and send IT elsewhere.

Well, because that's also, why would you just disapearance poop from your great .

question or straight out of your body? Yeah, I died a lot of .

those questions. My question was like, did they do IT in a way that was discrete? Or if they were like walking down the hall, did they just like lift up their wizard robes and crap, and then we should away.

These are people who have figured out there are magical ways to do. Things are so insanely complicated, I voltige is able to split his soul into seven distinct pieces in order to remain in model. And you are telling me that up until recently, these mother fuckers were shitting on the floor and then just vanishing IT.

You're telling me that more often than not, somebody would just turn the bed and then be like, zips. That s up. I thought to here.

wave the old one day.

So expect to pop chronos I am out.

But then why I devoted like Harry potter cannot person why even commenting on this?

What I think is going on is in Harry potter, in the chAmber of secrets, which I guess the second book, right Jason.

yes, of how yes, it's the where the chAmber, i'm so mad you it's the one where the chAmber of secrets is opened again, letting lose the basilic that stood in that that sliver in head inside of hogwarts is a giant snake. It's getting around through the pipe spoil, by the way, spoiler alert for this book because i'm like full blown spoiling IT. But a huge portion of IT takes place in a girl's bathroom with a dead girls ghost named moni murder. So this tweet on .

the part more account about how wizards make their poop disappear IT is actually referencing an article that J. K. Rolling wrote on the photo mal website a few years ago.

And I can read from IT to you. Give me just a second. okay? And I quote, when first created, the chAmber was access to a concealed trap door in a series of magical tunnels. However, when hardware plumbing became more elaborate in the eighteen century parenthetical, this was a rare instance of wizard copying mules .

because muscles, muscles.

This is a rare instance of wizards copying muggles, because hair to thee. I don't know, really, I don't know having .

a happening. You got what's happening.

Is there.

Alex ferial, are you okay? Like, you can pronounce words you're wearing roly staying switcher you are like.

I knew what I mean, I knew, I knew that I just, I just misread IT. Oh my god, i've never plan like this before. I feels I so embarrassed right now.

Man, I wish bloom burgers here right now to see this. He, fair to, right? Let me try .

that again. Yeah, no.

no, no. He fair too. yeah.

This was a rare instance of wizards copying muggles.

Because he too, they simply .

relieve themselves whether they stood and vanish. The evidence the entrance to the chAmber was threatened being located on the street.

She's just moving on from that like that's close .

for Anthony is I don't .

know that's an a side.

The entrance to the chAmber was threatened being located on the site of a proposed bathroom. So I think that they were trying to justify the existence of a bathroom in the Harry potter universe that would have been built on top of a mystic chAmber. So we're all clear on the floor.

We're clear on the ford popping, I guess. So SHE just SHE has an arbitrarily itri habit of just updating, answers the questions no one had, and then sometimes making .

IT worse in the process, right? Well, I mean, some examples were like, like he said, shortly after the last book came out, I was like, oh, by the way, never mentioned in the books dumble or gay SHE yes.

But I get that more and actually, like, I get being like, Y I keep thinking about these characters I made up and I want to tell you something that will be interesting and making .

about IT some other things that i've learned that he, that he included after the book is someone asked her about the religions of the people there. And he was like, they were like, are there any jewish people at howkins ds?

And he was like, yes, but no weekend. I mean, this is a fan, a series of wonderfully written, wonderfully structured series of children's fantasy novels. Guess what? I don't need to know where do they pop and also how many juice.

what? What what are we doing? So so the .

original tweet, if we go back to IT, says hot didn't realize chuck. I Johnson went to hogwart. Ds.

okay, so who's chuck? See Johnson, that's what I don't know. Now my presumption, based on the previous thing that I read, was that, uh he's some sort of internet .

troll uh that is correct. Um truck see Johnson is this classic outright guy. He's like very fringe e and like super conservative and kind of a troll and like a bomb thrower. He's not he calls him self a reporter, but really, I wouldn't call him a reporter.

Is he a reporter for a very reputable website like the judge report?

H, it's way more reputable, able than that. He has his own website. Well, he used to his zone website. He was called that new.

that calm, okay, cool. But he started .

off as this one to be journalist that he really want to be taken seriously. He would like be, he was on Megan Kelly show and stuff. He was on fox, and he tried to set himself up as this really serious journalist.

But one of the things that he decided to focus on was women who had come forward saying, you've been harassed or assaulted, and he took IT upon himself to approve that they were lying. Oh, wow. yeah.

He was pretty gross. So for example, there was this woman. He was a reporter. Her name's Michelle fields, and he said he was assaulted by quillan di, who worked for trump.

I remember that yeah, you like grabbed her really hard or something like like in front of people like, I think you bruised her and .

so chuck Johnson, right, told these articles which are like Michelle l. Fields is a liar here. All the reasons I think she's a liar.

She's LED about this. SHE LED about that. She's a totally fake victim. And then he happens to see her out on the street.

Chuck Johnson.

yeah, chuck Johnson sees her on the street with her. I think there's actually video of this. Hold on, just second i'm going to find i'm .

going to great .

is reporting that chucked Johnson in .

the red hat in the beard yeah. So okay, just to describe .

him a little bit for the listeners. He has kind of like a baby face and like this very thick red beard. He's wearing a make amErica great again cap and there's .

a lot of other make amErica he takes the head off interesting move.

as you .

can see. He's like walking superfast. His camera is behind him in that couple that he's like hosteling up to rate there that is Michelle fields and her Fiona and like write is he's about to confront her Michelle fields fiana turns around and like black him.

So like in this video, the shall field to feel and say considering some stranger er is just like come up in a cost of them is being a relatively calm and checked down is just like freaking out, like you assault to me. You assault to me and if you actually look at the recall, the title of the video, the video is Jamie weinstein, which is the name of hurricane assault, Charles c. Johnson.

Like he's not being a journalist. He's just being a troll. He's trying to go people into into like doing something that will make them look bad, but like the thing that he's most well knowing for. And this is where we're going to get back to the tree is do you remember a few years ago there is an article and roling stone IT was about alleged and very brutal assault at opportunity in Virginia, at the university .

of Virginia. Yes, right? And I was IT turned out to have been like, like pieces of IT were either made up or aborted or something.

So the principal character in that roling stone story was this woman who went by sudan e. They called her jacket in the story. SHE said he'd been assaulted, and IT turned out that the account wasn't verified for by the journalist. And IT wasn't that properly fetch? And they ended up having to retract IT right OK.

Chuck Johnson basically .

tweet i'm giving jack until later the night to tell the truth and then i'm going to start revealing everything about her past. Oh, and then he named a person and used their picture. And IT was the wrong person.

Oh wow. O wow. So in response, journalists are naturally doing stories about the guy who got the wrong person.

They are like, who is chuck Johnson? Where did he come from? They're reaching out to people who knew him, like people who went to college with him. And at that point, it's like december twenty fourteen, chuck Johnson posts on his facebook page an open letter to his former college classmates that said, um i've received a number of emails, tweet and phone calls from from you and I want to make something clear some things clear about me and you now so he's like everybody .

from college I wants to .

say something yes so further down, he says, now that I have some measure of motoring and success, I don't know you phone calls or responses to your condition and concern for me. Please know that most of these emails will be deleted or archive. Some will be open, remarked, others may be retweet or written about in future things.

And so he says, some of you have talked to the press about me and pretended we were close, we were not, but you've to just decided to trade on relationships we never had in the hopes of seeing your name in the press. This is pathetic. Here is what you may not do.

You may not accuse me of racism, sexism, ba blah ish. Without asking me for my point of view. First, I may or may not choose to give IT to you.

I'm also not interested in your pop system gc explanations about what's wrong with me. The truth of the matter is the happiest i've ever been doing the work. I love doing a very busy on that project what an angry.

lonely sounding person right?

So he goes on and on and the um the the reporter from deadspin wrote an email him just to say, hey, did you actually write this? I want to confirm before I put in in the story, they have a back and forth and then unprompted. Chuck Johnson sent a one line email that says, oh, and the comments body should be in reporter, yes. IT says, oh, and the comments about me shooting on the floor, we're made up.

Wow and .

then the desk ban reporter said, share enough .

on the facebook and the desbordes ort in one .

hundred I been reported, oh wow and then the desks and reporters say.

share enough on the facebook post they're cypher comments from friends and former classmates about some mysterious flow shading incident. But are you familiar, Jason, with the concept of the strides and effect, do you know what that is?

I'm not sure I do. So i'm a no one. This.

I think, what about you? P. J, I do. So many years ago, barber riant got upset about a image that was taken of her mention, wait.

I do know this, and and tried to get .

IT taken off the internet.

And because of that, I became much more widely seen.

right? So chuck Johnson saying, like, by the way, the four street, not true, that's all anyone wanted to talk about.

Also, it's kind of just like the florida shading effect, like when someone says they poop somewhere that they weren't supposed to do.

people get real curious. So like not even a week after this article comes out, docker does a follow up article where they ask a bunch of people who went to college with him about the floor pooping incident, and they get a bunch people talking with the rumor. One person says, quote, hilariously, he graduated, being best known for pooping on the, I think I remembering this right, seven floor stark a dorm. I'm sad this idiots getting any attention at all, but I hope this guy becomes famous for the same reason he was in college, his public pooping problems.

And wait w was there context?

Do you ever find out why he did? IT maybe was a hilarious prank to me IT almost .

feels like an urban legend like no one ever produced any evidence that he did IT.

But it's where it's not like it's a weird thing to just .

make I can totally imagine being like, hey, you know that i'm not cha guy who's like who's constantly bragging and he's like blustery like chuck Johnson. From the writing that I have read, IT doesn't seem like a particularly pleasant guy. I can imagine people saying like would would be funny. We said he poop ed on the floor.

right? Or they even could have done that in college if he was a jerk then, right? But also.

we could, I don't know, maybe he had the flu and he couldn't get to the bathroom and he fell down and he proved on the flow.

I like the idea.

follow. But then I would have to be about how you do his pants IT. Would even that he put on the four?

Well.

maybe he started to put his pants down. yeah.

Can we get in touch with the, this is something you guys should do. Get in touch with the college, see if a complaint was filed.

yeah. Or call the people on the .

facebook comments. Go to india. Alex, figure IT out.

right? So in june of the that article is written in december of two thousand fourteen, one of twenty fifteen chucked Johnson suz gocco for sixty six million dollars and sixty .

seven million.

I don't know how that number reached. I read of yeah because of and .

did he win? IT got .

rejected by the judge, but then there was the whole .

big whole code.

So for anybody who does not know, cocker posted a an expert of a sex tape of hoogan. And hoogan sued and bankrupt to the company.

What really happened was the post about Peter till, who's slike a tech Miller, who's gay, where they said he was gay and he hated them. Until then, he would fund lawsuits of anybody will not anybody, but a bunch different people, they want to see them. And the whole cogan was won. But then after that, he turned out.

like he was bankroll other people as well. He was he banker in the number of people. So so during the bankruptcy golkar, chuck Johnson basically said, like i'm going to i'm going to see you again and got a settlement from them really.

And the article that I was reading you about whether he puts on the floor was taken down. But since the internet is forever, I was reading IT off of the internet archive. And if you want IT, you can find IT there.

Because like basically, whoever ended up was like the distressed property that was gocco was just like.

we don't want to fight this basically cocker out of was like this fire sale Price. And there were a bunch of people who like a veiled themselves .

of this opportunity.

There's guy name shiva I I ia chuck Johnson got articles taken down. So like there are all these articles that now if if I actually go to wear.

I was like a holiday where every person who newspapers got got .

money and got their thing, got the the article taken down. And since this whole for pooping story reached the end, like chuck Johnson was sort of a personality in the right wing media sphere for a while but he got kicked off a twitter. He tried to start his only crowd funding site that didn't work out um he shut down his new site this fall he's kind of like .

disappeared um wow, there is so much to this tweet that I was thinking was just going to be an opportunity to talk about Harry potter.

So Jason, do you think that you know that now that you know this this the components of this week, you go back and explain IT for us?

Yes, I think I could hold on me. Let me just reopen IT again .

s open your grow of paper.

We can cut this out. We can cut this out, finding IT. And here we go.

Okay, yeah. I think that I can answer this. okay.

So once again, this is from please at me for access to my powerful brain. A K A at Chris season. Huh didn't realize chuck sea Johnson went to hogwarts.

Just goes to show you there's a little magic in all of us and so this tweet is essentially um combining um the story about chuck c Johnson and internet tro provocator type person who at one point had some sort of scandal go on in which he either did or didn't admit to sitting on the floor at his college. He says he didn't. He sued, he settled.

He made money off of IT IT is a combination of that story be IT awkward or not um and its intersection with the recently divulged or popular zed information the JK rowling has been made known as made known which is in the wizard world prior to adopting muggle plumbing, wizards would shit freely wherever they wanted and then use magic to vanish those words. By the way, vanish those words is the name of a heavy battle band that i'm working with. And that is pretty great anyway. So I think that gets to me so this person is basically saying, chuck e's. Johnson must have gone to hug words because that's the school where it's appropriate to pop on the floor.

Yeah, I yes, yes.

yes.

wow. The slender man.

sorry. And and also .

the slender man. No, he's not involved in this one OK call.

Jason is well, it's such a pleasure to have you on even though you're talking about the pop and grame that's on my switcher.

I just see alex, alex cutting a hole in a garbage bag. So wear IT so we going to wear IT like a punch in the dot arrives and just throws in IT alex, his head you fucked in monster.

I'm like, so desperate to end this focal, right? I'm just feeling like, so i'm feeling so abused.

but harder to this. You are feeling fine.

right? James, so much man, fun.

Thank you guys. I will talk to you soon.

Jason mazzuca currently stars in the long dumb road, which is a movie that is available on all streaming services, and he is the cohoes of the harder this kim.

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