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LA protests, National Guard and tax bill

2025/6/9
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Gavin Newsom: 作为加州州长,我认为特朗普总统未经我允许调动国民警卫队到洛杉矶街头镇压移民抗议活动是非法的。我认为这是他试图人为制造危机,以此来达到某种政治目的。这种行为不仅侵犯了加州的自治权,也加剧了社会对立情绪。我已要求特朗普总统撤回这些部队,以避免局势进一步升级。我坚信,解决移民问题应该通过对话和协商,而不是通过军事手段来压制异议。 Karen Bass: 我作为洛杉矶市长,亲眼目睹了国民警卫队在街头与抗议者发生冲突,催泪瓦斯弥漫,场面混乱不堪。我认为,这一切混乱都是由特朗普政府挑起的。他们利用移民问题来制造社会恐慌,以此来巩固自己的政治基础。这种做法不仅不负责任,而且极其危险。我呼吁所有市民保持冷静和理性,不要被政府的宣传所迷惑。我们应该团结起来,共同维护洛杉矶的和平与稳定。 Donald Trump: 我作为美国总统,有责任维护国家的安全和稳定。在洛杉矶发生的移民抗议活动已经演变成暴力事件,对社会秩序造成了严重威胁。为了保护人民的生命财产安全,我不得不派遣国民警卫队前往支援。我这样做完全是合法的,符合宪法赋予我的权力。我不会允许我们的国家像在拜登政府领导下那样被撕裂。我将采取一切必要措施,确保美国的边境安全和法律得到执行。 Idris Ali: 从法律角度来看,总统有权根据《美国法典》第10条调动国民警卫队,使其处于联邦控制之下。虽然国民警卫队通常由各州管辖,但总统可以通过这种方式绕过州政府的意愿。历史上,总统曾多次动用国民警卫队,例如应对自然灾害或协助选举安全。然而,这次特朗普总统动用国民警卫队来应对内乱,并且是在加州州政府反对的情况下进行的,这确实比较罕见。上次发生类似事件还是在1965年,当时约翰逊总统派遣军队保护阿拉巴马州的民权运动。 Daniel Cole: 作为一名路透社摄影师,我亲身经历了洛杉矶的抗议活动。我到达联邦大楼时,看到国民警卫队已经部署在那里。起初,抗议者们只是高喊口号,场面还算和平。但是,当他们与全副武装的国民警卫队相遇时,气氛立刻变得紧张起来。没过多久,双方就开始发生冲突,警察使用了催泪瓦斯。整个过程非常迅速,让人感到震惊。我亲眼目睹了和平抗议如何演变成暴力冲突,这让我对美国的社会分裂感到担忧。

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President Trump deployed 2,000 National Guard troops to Los Angeles during protests, sparking controversy. Governor Newsom deemed this unlawful, while Trump defended his actions. Experts discussed the legal basis for the deployment and potential escalation.
  • Deployment of 2,000 National Guard troops under Title 10 authority
  • Governor Newsom's claim of unlawful action
  • Potential deployment of 500 Marines and invocation of the Insurrection Act

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Today, the National Guard is deployed in LA as police and protesters clash in immigration demonstrations. California Governor Gavin Newsom calls on Trump to withdraw the troops. The US and China are set for trade talks in London. And how the Trump-Musk feud could impact the tax bill.

It's Monday, June 9th. This is Reuters World News, bringing you everything you need to know from the front lines in 10 minutes every weekday. I'm Kim Van Nel in Whanganui. This Father's Day, help Dad be all he can be with a gift from the Home Depot. Because he's not just Dad, he's the handyman of the house, the plumber in a pinch, and the emergency mechanic.

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The move coming after two days of protest over immigration raids, pitting the state against Republicans in Washington and against the president. On Sunday, demonstrations continued. Outside a federal detention center, National Guard troops clash with protesters and fire tear gas.

Tear gas too on the 101 freeway as protesters block the main downtown thoroughfare. Democratic Governor Gavin Newsom says the president calling up thousands of California National Guard troops, a call which would usually be his, is unlawful and an attempt to manufacture a crisis.

LA Mayor Karen Bass echoing that sentiment. But what we're seeing in Los Angeles is chaos that is provoked by the administration. Newsom says he's asked Trump to rescind the order. But Trump is standing firm and isn't ruling out going further. Well, we're going to have troops everywhere. We're not going to let this happen to our country. We're not going to let our country be torn apart like it was under Biden. So what does the law say about what the president can do?

Idris Ali is in Washington.

So what the president has done is essentially deployed 2,000 National Guard troops and brought them under federal authority through a process known as Title 10. And that basically gives the president the right to basically control troops, even though National Guard troops are sort of the ownership of states. So it's sort of a workaround. Presidents current and past have used National Guard troops for a host of reasons, whether it's responding to natural disasters

helping with election security, for example, during COVID, sort of manning hospitals and helping with that effort. So the deployment of National Guard troops in itself, even under Title 10, is not rare. What is different this time is the fact that he did so to help with civil disturbances,

And he federalized the troops against the wishes of California, which is essentially, you know, the state under which these troops would normally belong. And it's not unprecedented, but it was last done in 1965. And that's when President Lyndon Johnson sent troops to protect civil rights in Montgomery, Alabama.

Idris, what are other options on the table? The real concern, I think, amongst experts is the fact that the Secretary of Defense has also said that 500 Marines are

are ready to deploy if things get worse. And that opens up a whole host of issues. Do they then invoke the Insurrection Act, which hasn't been done since 1992? Active duty troops on the streets of America deployed against Americans. It would raise a whole host of questions.

Reuters photographer Daniel Cole was in the middle of it all. Yeah, so we got to the federal building, which to my knowledge at the time was the only place that the National Guard had been deployed. And this march that everybody had been shouting their slogans and quite peaceful, and then

all of a sudden, you know, meets the National Guard, which there was such a spectacle around it. And there they were. They were sitting there with their rifles and their batons. And it took very little time for things to sort of go downhill from there, where then the crowd gets rowdy and they're telling them to back off. And then, you know, you have these little clashes and tear gas. Israeli forces have boarded and seized a charity boat heading for Gaza.

The Freedom Flotilla Coalition says it was carrying aid, plus a dozen activists, including Greta Thunberg. The boat is now being tugged to an Israeli port. The U.S. believes that Russian President Vladimir Putin's threatened retaliation against Ukraine for its drone attack last weekend has not happened yet. U.S. officials told Reuters it's likely to be a significant, multi-pronged attack.

The timing for the attack is unclear, but one source says it was expected within days. Colombian senator and potential presidential contender Miguel Uribe has survived an initial operation after being shot in Bogota. That's according to his wife and the hospital.

And Carlos Alcaraz battled back from the brink to retain the French Open crown. The Spanish tennis player outlasting Italian Yannick Sinner to win the longest final ever at Roland-Garros, clocking in at 5 hours and 29 minutes.

Three of President Trump's top aides will meet their Chinese counterparts in London today in talks aimed at resolving their trade dispute. Carmel Crimmins has more. Hey, Carmel. Hey, Kim. Welcome back. So great to have your voice on the show again. Oh, it's good to be back.

So, you're right. Treasury Secretary Scott Besant, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick and Trade Representative Jameson Greer are all representing the United States. Now, both sides have an incentive to ratchet down the rhetoric and find agreement. These

These discussions come just days after Trump and Chinese leader Xi Jinping spoke by phone, and the involvement of Lutnick this time is interesting. It underlines the importance of trying to restore the flow of critical minerals. Lutnick's agency oversees export controls for the US, and China's decision to suspend exports of a wide range of critical minerals has become a particular pain point for the US. You can hear all about that in a special episode of Reuters World News that went out over the weekend. We'll

We'll put a link to the show in the description of today's pod. After publicly denigrating President Trump's budget bill, Elon Musk has given a boost to a handful of Republican deficit hawks. They've been pushing back against the bill for fear of soaring debt. And last week, others began raising concerns about an unregulated AI provision.

David Morgan is in Washington and is here to tell us how Trump and Musk's breakup could impact the future of the bill. Well, when Republicans speak publicly about it,

They try to minimize it. One member of the Senate said last week that it's fine for Musk to criticize in this way, but we have responsibilities. We have to govern. And so we need to move forward with the bill. It's difficult to know exactly where this will fall out. They're just starting to turn the pressure on. It's how I would say it. And they're determined to get the bill done by the 4th of July.

because the bill also contains an increase in the federal debt ceiling, which has to be raised to avoid a default on the country's debt. So there is a dire consequence that could be in the offing if this devolves into political disarray. So there's a concerted effort to ensure that that doesn't happen. And leaders are trying to move as quickly

to get it through Congress before things can fall apart. So it's a real race. There's an element of a ticking time bomb, and there's a real race to get things done before they get into the danger zone. So what happens next? Where do we go from here? Well, what's happening at the moment is that Senate leadership is...

pushing to get the bill done within the next couple of weeks. Congress is scheduled to go into recess the week before the 4th of July, and Senate Majority Leader John Thune has said that they want to get it on the floor, get it out of the Senate and over to the House, that the House can pass it well before the 4th of July holiday.

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