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TikTok, Musk and the German far right and diversity backlash

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David Shepardson: 美国最高法院正在审理TikTok禁令案,这是一个关于言论自由与国家安全之间冲突的复杂案件。法院的裁决难以预测,因为保守派法官在言论自由和国家安全问题上的立场存在矛盾。一方面,他们通常支持言论自由;另一方面,他们也往往尊重政府在国家安全问题上的决定。TikTok及其母公司字节跳动将重点强调言论自由受到侵犯,并指出国会并非出于国家安全考虑,而是出于对TikTok内容的担忧而采取行动。然而,许多保守派官员认为,美国不能容忍与TikTok相关的风险。此外,总统候选人特朗普曾表示希望保留TikTok,这使得整个案件更加复杂化。 Thomas Eskrit: 马斯克对德国极右翼政党AfD的支持引发了对其可能干预德国选举的担忧。马斯克拥有巨大的财富和社交媒体平台的影响力,这使得他能够在选举中施加影响。虽然马斯克声称自己是言论自由的绝对支持者,但他对AfD的支持可能会对德国的政治格局产生影响。AfD的联合主席Alice Weidel在与马斯克的访谈中获得了巨大的曝光度,而这可能会影响即将到来的德国大选。欧盟官员正在密切关注事态发展,以防出现虚假信息或仇恨言论。 Isla Binney: 保守派对所谓的'觉醒文化'的反弹导致企业对多元化、公平与包容(DEI)计划的热情下降。尤其是非洲裔美国人在公司董事会中的比例显著下降。这可能与企业优先事项的转变有关,尽管企业仍然关注最高管理层的多元化。在2020年之后,随着'黑人的命也是命'运动的兴起,多元化曾是公司寻找新董事会成员的首要标准之一,但如今其重要性有所下降。一个经常被提出的论点是,董事会成员的多元化有助于确保对高管进行必要的挑战,以确保遵循正确的实践。

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What is the US Supreme Court hearing regarding TikTok, and what are the key arguments?

The US Supreme Court is hearing arguments from TikTok and its Chinese owner ByteDance to block a law that could ban the platform on national security grounds. TikTok argues that the ban is motivated by the content of videos on the platform rather than data security, emphasizing First Amendment free speech rights. Conservatives on the court have historically defended free speech but also shown deference to national security concerns.

Why is Elon Musk endorsing Germany's far-right AfD party, and what are the concerns?

Elon Musk endorsed Germany's far-right AfD party during an interview with its co-leader Alice Weidel on X. Concerns arise from Musk's potential to influence European elections through his wealth and control of social media platforms, which could disrupt tightly regulated European political spending. Critics worry about misinformation, hate speech, and election interference.

What is the status of corporate diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives amid conservative backlash?

Corporate enthusiasm for DEI initiatives has waned due to a conservative backlash against 'wokeness.' While diverse representation on corporate boards has increased since 2020, the proportion of Black directors has significantly dropped in the past year. Companies are now prioritizing other criteria over diversity, reflecting a cultural shift away from the momentum spurred by the Black Lives Matter movement.

What are the implications of the US TikTok ban for its 170 million American users?

The US TikTok ban, set to take effect on January 19th, threatens the accounts of 170 million American users unless the Supreme Court intervenes. The case hinges on balancing free speech rights under the First Amendment against national security concerns, with ByteDance arguing that the ban targets content rather than data security.

How has Elon Musk's involvement in German politics been received by European officials?

European officials are closely monitoring Elon Musk's involvement in German politics, particularly his endorsement of the far-right AfD party. Concerns include potential election interference, misinformation, and the influence of his wealth and social media platform on tightly regulated European political systems. Musk has defended his actions as free speech and denied any underhanded motives.

What is the significance of Jimmy Carter's state funeral, and who attended?

Jimmy Carter's state funeral was attended by five living US presidents: Joe Biden, George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, and Donald Trump. Biden delivered the eulogy, praising Carter's character and legacy. Carter's remains were flown to his hometown of Plains, Georgia, where he was buried next to his wife.

What are the key issues highlighted by the Los Angeles wildfires, and what steps might California take to prevent future devastation?

The Los Angeles wildfires have resulted in at least 10 deaths, destroyed nearly 10,000 structures, and forced 180,000 evacuations. Key issues include the impact of dry desert winds and the need for California to implement measures to prevent future devastation on this scale. A Reuters weekend episode will explore these issues further.

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The US Supreme Court is set to hear arguments on the potential ban of TikTok, raising concerns about national security versus free speech. The case involves complex legal issues and political considerations, with no clear prediction on the court's decision.
  • US Supreme Court to hear arguments on TikTok ban
  • ByteDance and TikTok focus on First Amendment issue
  • Concerns about national security versus free speech
  • Conservatives on the court have differing views on the balance between free speech and national security

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Today, the US Supreme Court hears arguments on Congress' TikTok ban, Elon Musk shifts his political interest to Germany's far-right AFD party, and the future of corporate diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives.

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Donald Trump is scheduled to be sentenced today for his conviction on criminal charges in his hush money case. The US Supreme Court rejected his last-minute request to halt it just days ahead of his inauguration.

The state funeral of U.S. President Jimmy Carter, who died last month at the age of 100. President Joe Biden gave the eulogy for the 39th president. "Jimmy Carter's friendship taught me, and through his life taught me, the strength of character is more than title or the power we hold." Biden was among five living presidents who attended the funeral.

President George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, and Donald Trump were all in attendance, seated next to one another. Carter's remains have been flown to his hometown of Plains, Georgia, where he'll be buried next to his wife.

The brief detention of Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Mercado has been condemned by world leaders. She was held for an hour after appearing in public for the first time in months, a day before President Nicolas Maduro's inauguration for a third term. The government says the opposition fabricated her arrest.

At least 10 people are now known to have died in the Los Angeles wildfires with nearly 10,000 structures destroyed. Five fires were burning into a third night on Thursday as dry desert winds again gathered strength. Nearly 180,000 people have been ordered to evacuate their homes.

For the latest on the wildfires, follow updates on the Reuters app or website. And listen out for our weekend episode looking at the key issues that have been highlighted by these wildfires and what California might need to do to prevent future devastation on this scale. That pod drops on Saturday.

Global shares have been under pressure as investors count down to the US jobs report today on the lookout for numbers which could exacerbate or ease the sell-off in the global bond market. Both Nasdaq futures and S&P 500 futures were down 0.3% as Wall Street was shuttered overnight to mark the funeral of Jimmy Carter. The US Supreme Court hears arguments today in a case that pits free speech against national security.

The U.S. ban on TikTok is set to go into effect on January 19th, threatening the accounts of 170 million American users, pending a ruling from the highest court. David Shepardson is covering the case in D.C. David, what should we expect from the court today?

So it's not like a typical case where you can easily sort of predict along ideological lines where the court might end up. But it's clear that ByteDance and TikTok are putting all their, the entire focus, and it's what the court wants them to look at, is the First Amendment issue. And they're going to really press this argument that Congress was motivated not by data, because they argue there's

There's other Chinese apps that collect lots of data. They're going to argue that this really is about the content of videos that have been on TikTok and their response by Congress, not about the national security grounds. But there are two fundamental views in opposition to one another here. The conservatives in the Supreme Court have been generally pretty optimistic

on defending the First Amendment rights of Americans in terms of free speech across a wide variety of cases versus national security. And the court and the conservatives have shown a lot of deference to the government when they invoke national security grounds. So political support isn't really falling along neat political party lines here. No, absolutely not. In fact, you have a lot of conservative attorney generals and others who really say, this is

This is just a risk that the United States can't tolerate. On the other hand, President-elect Trump talked during the campaign about saving TikTok and trying to appeal to younger voters. And so I think he very much wants to find a way to keep TikTok afloat. And just given sort of this, the weird sort of timing by happenstance that this goes into effect one day before this change administration sort of makes the whole legal case much more dramatic.

In the last few months, Germany's far-right Alternative for Germany Party, or AFD, has caught the attention of Elon Musk, thanks in part to a 24-year-old German social media influencer named Naomi Zeit.

Musk's interest in the AFD has grown to full endorsement as he took to X yesterday to interview Alice Weidel, the co-leader of AFD and its pick for Chancellor in February's elections. Our senior correspondent in Berlin, Thomas Eskrit, was watching. So there have been a lot of concerns that Musk's support for the AFD and other far-right parties across Europe

could amount to election interference, so this conversation was being monitored for the possibility of misinformation and even hate speech. What's behind those concerns? The fundamental concern I think is that

He has the ability to bring enormous sums of money to European politics. European politics is very different from US politics. Spending is much more tightly regulated. I think one concern is simply that as a very rich, powerful man who controls the social media platform, he is very well placed to put his thumb on the scales in the elections which are coming up in Germany on February the 23rd.

So officials in Brussels are carefully monitoring how the conversation went. Musk introduced Weidel by saying that she was the leading candidate to Germany's next leader, which of course is very unlikely to be true. For one thing, her party is second on the polls, and all the other parties in the German parliament have said that they won't work with the AFD, which means she won't be able to build a coalition. But it was enormous exposure for someone who is actually not particularly well known outside Germany.

Has Musk responded to claims that he's trying to somehow influence these elections? He has said that he is a free speech absolutist and that he is entitled to make his views known. And he says that there is nothing underhand or dishonest about his expression of opinions, including on European politics. He also says that he has a legitimate interest in European politics. He, of course, does have investments here. He has a very large Tesla factory outside Berlin. The AFD has declared

declined to comment on what contact they have with Musk. When asked, they have admitted that Vidal's office was in contact with Musk's office to set up this discussion, but nothing beyond that so far.

Over the past year, a conservative backlash against wokeness has sapped corporate enthusiasm for diversity, equity and inclusion, also known as DEI. Reuters interviews with corporate directors and advisors, as well as a recent study, paint a stark picture of how pronounced its fallout has been. Isla Binney covers corporate governance.

and chatted with Chris about these issues. So what we're seeing in corporate boardrooms is that diverse people broadly have more seats at the table than they did in 2020. But in the past year, among those new directors getting seats at those tables, the proportion of black people in particular is significantly lower than it was in the previous two years.

And from those you spoke to, what might be behind this drop? Is there a cultural shift around DEI initiatives? There is a sense that this is not an issue that has gone away, and there is still interest among corporations in ensuring diversity at the highest levels. However, whereas

In recent years, especially following 2020 and a real spurring of the Black Lives Matter movement around national outrage around the killing of George Floyd, that the priorities have somewhat shifted. So whereas diversity may have been in the top two criteria for a company seeking a new board member around that time, that now

Now there is less emphasis. What is the case for diversity in boardrooms? One argument that comes up quite frequently is that if you are expecting any executive to be challenged by their board, that perhaps they

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