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Trump’s Gaza proposal, Mideast reaction and El Salvador’s prison offer

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Trevor Honeycutt
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主持著名true crime播客《Crime Junkie》的播音员和创始人。
特朗普
美国企业家、政治人物及媒体名人,曾任第45任和第47任美国总统。
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特朗普:我提议美国接管加沙地带,所有巴勒斯坦人都应该离开。我们将对其进行重建,创造一个能提供无限工作和住房的经济发展。 我的计划将解决长期存在的冲突,为该地区带来繁荣和稳定。这将是一个双赢的局面,对巴勒斯坦人和以色列人都有利。 这是一个大胆而创新的解决方案,需要勇气和远见才能实现。我相信,如果我们共同努力,我们可以实现和平与繁荣。 Trevor Honeycutt:特朗普的言论引发了关于可行性、合法性和加沙地带地位等一系列问题。他的计划中,巴勒斯坦人的安置地点、运输方式以及美国如何控制加沙地带等问题都没有得到解答。此外,他的提议可能会影响加沙停火协议,并可能激怒哈马斯。 特朗普的提议缺乏细节,也没有考虑到其潜在的负面影响。这可能会加剧该地区的紧张局势,并引发新的冲突。我们需要一个更周全、更全面的计划,以确保所有相关方的安全和福祉。 Nidal Al-Maghrabi:在停火生效后返回加沙的巴勒斯坦人拒绝了特朗普的言论,他们希望回到自己的家园。特朗普的言论让巴勒斯坦人想起了1948年的中东战争,那场战争导致数十万巴勒斯坦人流离失所。哈马斯完全拒绝了特朗普的言论,沙特阿拉伯则重申支持两国方案。 特朗普的提议是不可接受的,因为它无视巴勒斯坦人民的权利和愿望。这将导致进一步的流离失所和冲突。我们需要一个基于国际法和公正原则的解决方案,以确保巴勒斯坦人民能够在自己的土地上过上和平与尊严的生活。 播音员:本期新闻报道了特朗普关于美国接管加沙地带的提案,以及这一提案在巴勒斯坦和中东地区引发的强烈反应。此外,萨尔瓦多总统布凯勒提议接收美国驱逐的危险罪犯,包括美国公民,也引发了广泛关注。 这些事件突显了中东地区持续存在的冲突和紧张局势,以及美国在该地区政策的复杂性。萨尔瓦多的提议也引发了关于人权和国际合作的伦理问题。 Sarah Knossian:萨尔瓦多的监狱系统在布凯勒上任后进行了大规模改造,现在拥有巨大的收容能力。布凯勒可能从与美国的潜在协议中获得核能援助和萨尔瓦多人临时保护身份(TPS)的续签。萨尔瓦多经济很大一部分依赖于来自美国的汇款。 萨尔瓦多的监狱系统人权状况令人担忧,接收大量美国驱逐的罪犯可能会进一步恶化这一状况。这笔交易的潜在好处可能无法弥补其对萨尔瓦多人权和社会稳定的负面影响。我们需要一个更人道、更可持续的解决方案,以解决移民和犯罪问题。

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President Trump's proposal to have the U.S. take over Gaza and resettle Palestinians elsewhere sparks outrage and uncertainty. The plan raises questions about feasibility, legality, and potential impact on the fragile ceasefire.
  • Trump's proposal to take over Gaza and resettle Palestinians.
  • Mixed reactions from Palestinians and regional powers like Saudi Arabia.
  • Concerns about the proposal's feasibility, legality, and potential impact on the ceasefire.

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Today, Trump says the U.S. will take over Gaza and that all Palestinians should leave. We hear the reaction from Palestinians on the ground and follow the journey of one family heading back home in Gaza after the ceasefire deal with Israel. Plus, El Salvador's offer to host U.S. prisoners. It's Wednesday, February 5th. This is Reuters World News, bringing you everything you need to know from the front lines in 10 minutes every weekday.

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The U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip and we will do a job with it too. We'll own it. President Donald Trump says he wants the U.S. to take over the Gaza Strip and redevelop it after Palestinians are resettled somewhere else. Create an economic development that will supply

unlimited numbers of jobs and housing for the people of the area. Trump selling the pitch, which upends decades of U.S. policy towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, much like the real estate developer that he is. Speaking at a press conference alongside Trump, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the idea was worth considering. Trevor Honeycutt was at the White House.

His remarks raised a ton of questions from feasibility to legality. And the status of the Gaza Strip itself is something that has been in question for many years. The question of who owns the Gaza Strip and who will control the Gaza Strip is kind of one of the foundational questions of whether we'll ever get to a two-state solution that gives Palestinians a state.

We're talking about Palestinian people who were displaced and dispossessed from parts of what is now Israel. And Trump now has this idea of sending them to new places again. And so where these people would go, how they would get there, how the United States would control this territory, which is still extremely unstable and dangerous, whether troops would be involved.

All of that was left unanswered by this press conference. I think we're also interested in seeing how does this affect the ongoing Gaza ceasefire question? Does this provoke Hamas? Does this put the deal at risk that is allowing hostages now to come out of Gaza? And so all of those are kind of questions that we want to keep exploring in the next few days.

On the ground in Gaza, where the first phase of a fragile Israel-Hamas ceasefire is in effect, some families are just starting to get back to their homes. Ismail Mohammed, his wife and six children, have been living in a sprawling camp and are now heading back to their home in the north. It's an 11-mile walk to Jabalia, and for Ismail, it's a brutal one. He walks with a stick after his leg was injured in an airstrike.

and he lost an arm before the war to diabetes. At the end of their journey, they find the neighborhood and their house flattened. Many Palestinians say they want to go home despite the widespread destruction.

Our senior Palestinian territories correspondent is Nidal Al-Maghrabi. The Palestinians who rushed back after the ceasefire took effect, they rushed back to their homes in northern Gaza knowing that these houses may not be still standing, have rejected Trump's remarks. They want to go back to where they lived for much of their lives and even live in a tent but next to the rubble of their houses.

The issue of displacement is very sensitive to Palestinians in particular. Trump's remarks reminded the Palestinians of the 1948 Middle East war when hundreds of thousands of Palestinians fled or were forced to flee their hometowns and villages. The Palestinians were displaced in 1948. They called it a Nakba or catastrophe. And what has been the wider reaction in the Middle East? Hamas,

totally Trump's remark, described them as ridiculous and absurd. Saudi Arabia voiced their support to this two-state solution, so echoing again their outstanding position of supporting the Palestinians in establishing and having their own independent state. The

The Australian prime minister also reiterated the position of his government in supporting the two-state solution and the rights of the Palestinians to have their own state. It was a shock and surprise for many. Swedish police are warning that misinformation is being spread on social media following the country's deadliest gun attack.

Eleven people were killed at an adult education center on Tuesday. The suspected perpetrator is among the dead, and the motive is unknown. Federal government employee unions are suing the Trump administration to block its buyout for federal workers. The news comes after a U.S. official told Reuters that more than 20,000 employees are planning on taking the deal to receive pay and benefits through September 30th.

And the CIA has offered buyouts to its entire workforce, citing an aim to bring the agency in line with Trump's priorities. That's according to two sources familiar with the matter. Military aircraft carrying detained migrants flew to Guantanamo Bay on Tuesday. The Trump administration has said it will potentially house tens of thousands of migrants at the naval base in Cuba. Are you expecting a new crop top from Xi'an? Or maybe a t-shirt from Temem?

Well, you may be waiting. Kamal Crimmins is here to tell you why. So the U.S. Postal Service is temporarily suspending packages from China and Hong Kong, potentially delaying or blocking shipments from retailers like Shein and Timu.

The move comes after President Trump ended a trade exemption this week that's used by Chinese retailers to ship packages worth less than $800 duty-free to the US. It was removed as part of new US tariffs on Chinese goods, and its removal makes products sold by the likes of Xi'an and Timu more expensive. And if you're interested in understanding what Trump is doing with his tariffs and threats of tariffs, stay tuned for this week's Reuters Econ World podcast.

As we mentioned in the show yesterday, Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele has offered to house in his mega-prison dangerous criminals from anywhere in the world deported by the U.S. That offer is not just for migrants, but also includes criminals who are U.S. citizens, something that U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio didn't outright reject despite the apparent illegality of such a move.

Reporter Sarah Knossian covers Central America. Sarah, can you describe this prison system that these migrants might be fed into? Bukele is most known for his crackdown on crime, particularly the country's notorious gangs. As part of that crackdown, he has suspended constitutional rights and El Salvador now has one of the highest incarcerated populations in the world. About 2% of adults are

are behind bars. So, you know, in El Salvador, the prison system before Bukele came in was notoriously overcrowded with terrible conditions, very underfunded. Once Bukele came in, as part of his crackdown on the gangs, he built a mega prison that has a capacity of around 40,000 people.

As of now, as far as I understand from Salvadoran human rights organizations, there are about 15,000 to 20,000 people that are currently in the jail, which means that there is space for it to be filled out. And so what does President Bukele get out of this potential deal with the U.S.? He put on X a

a message about how the United States was going to help with El Salvador's nuclear energy. There's also on the table this issue of TPS for Salvadorans. I believe around 250,000 have protected status in the United States. And in March, that would be the deadline for the Trump administration to revoke

TPS. And right now, around I think last year, about a quarter of El Salvador's economy was based on remittances, money sent to the country from diaspora, primarily in the United States.

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