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What are You Replacing?

2024/11/13
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Jason Fried 认为,产品开发更关注用户需要放弃什么,而不是获得什么。他以 Basecamp 为例,指出 Basecamp 的主要竞争对手不是其他项目管理工具,而是电子邮件,因为用户习惯于使用电子邮件进行项目沟通。用户在采用新产品时,需要放弃现有习惯(习惯于现状)。新产品必须足够优秀,才能促使用户改变习惯。 David Heinemeier Hansson 补充道,即使在竞争对手增多的情况下,Basecamp 的营销策略仍然侧重于解决用户面临的实际问题(例如信息分散),而不是直接与竞争对手的产品进行比较。Basecamp 的产品定位是永恒的,因为它关注的是用户在项目管理中遇到的永恒问题,而不是特定的竞争对手。现在,用户面临的问题是技术过载,Basecamp 的定位是提供“恰到好处”的工具,而不是过多的工具。在开发新产品时,会考虑用户需要放弃什么,并通过内部测试(dogfooding)来验证产品是否能够满足用户的需求。内部测试有助于了解用户在切换到新产品时需要克服的困难,例如放弃现有工具的习惯。用户在尝试新产品时,会经历一个适应期(the dip),需要教育用户了解自身问题,才能更好地接受新产品。 衡量产品好坏的标准不是功能多少,而是实际使用效果。免费试用、演示和培训课程等方式可以帮助用户体验产品,减少切换到新产品的阻力。用户有时需要与销售人员进行面对面沟通,建立信任感。用户在评估产品时,往往难以准确判断自身需求,因此需要教育用户,帮助他们更好地理解问题。许多用户在尝试其他产品后,最终又回到了 Basecamp,这说明 Basecamp 的价值在于解决用户实际问题,而不是单纯的功能比较。

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Key Insights

Why is it important to consider what customers are giving up when they switch to your product?

Understanding what customers are giving up helps in recognizing their existing habits and the challenges they face, which is crucial for effective product positioning and marketing.

What was the primary competition for Basecamp when it first launched?

Initially, Basecamp's main competition was not direct software tools but rather traditional methods like email, meetings, and phone calls.

How has the competition for Basecamp evolved over the years?

While traditional methods like email still exist, Basecamp now faces more direct competitors in the form of other project management tools like Trello, Asana, Jira, and Monday.

What is the significance of 'dogfooding' in product development?

Dogfooding involves using your own product internally to identify its strengths and weaknesses, helping to refine and improve it before public release.

How does 37signals approach marketing its products?

37signals focuses on understanding and addressing the specific problems and struggles of their customers rather than directly comparing features with competitors.

What are some common challenges customers face when adopting new tools?

Customers often struggle with unlearning quirks and workarounds from their previous tools and adapting to the new system, which can lead to a temporary dip in productivity.

How does 37signals help customers understand their own problems?

37signals invests in educating customers through podcasts, books, and classes, helping them recognize the true nature of their productivity and communication issues.

What role do free trials play in 37signals' customer acquisition strategy?

Free trials allow potential customers to experience the product firsthand, helping them decide if it meets their needs without the pressure of immediate commitment.

Why might customers request a demo instead of trying a product on their own?

Customers may request a demo to gain a guided understanding of how the product works and its potential benefits, especially if they are unsure where to start or how to maximize its use.

What is the 'at-store good versus at-home good' concept in product marketing?

This concept refers to the difference between how a product appears in a store setting versus how it performs in real-world use, highlighting the importance of long-term satisfaction over initial impressions.

Shownotes Transcript

When it comes to business, it’s important to consider not only what customers would gain by using your product or service, but also what they're giving up. In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, chat about understanding your customer's needs and motivations. They highlight that your competition isn't always who you think it is, and they discuss ways to position your product to address the customer's actual challenges.

Key Takeaways:

  • 00:40 - The habit of the present. What people are already doing?
  • 02:19 - A customer's alternative isn't always your direct competitor
  • 05:06 - 37signals competition now vs. when the company started
  • 06:29 - Being open to something new often requires breaking a habit
  • 12:13 - Considering what people are replacing when developing 37signals newest products
  • 14:00 - How dogfooding your product helps you figure out what it needs
  • 17:33 - Using free trials, 1:1 demos, and group classes to give potential customers experience with your product

Links and Resources:

Jason's post about what your product replaces on X)

Basecamp classes with live Q&A)

Books by 37signals)

Sign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.com)

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The REWORK podcast)

The Rework Podcast on YouTube)

The 37signals Dev Blog)

37signals on YouTube)

@37signals on X)