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After Ugly Reversal, Market Looks to Delta Earnings

2025/4/9
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Keith Lansford: 我是凯斯·兰斯福德,这是4月9日星期三的市场早报。周二股市经历了剧烈波动,从早盘上涨到尾盘下跌,这反映了特朗普总统贸易战缺乏进展以及美国高额关税生效的事实。周二早间一些积极的消息曾引发希望,但午后没有新的消息出现,看起来中国尚未准备好谈判。特朗普拒绝了欧洲提出的解决贸易争端的方案,这使得各类型企业面临不确定性,市场可能因此持续动荡。达美航空开启了财报季,航空业在关税消息之前就经历了艰难的第一个季度,预计会有更多坏消息传来。星座品牌公司(Constellation Brands)的财报也值得关注,其进口的酒类产品处于贸易战的前线。大型银行的财报将于周五公布,这将提供对整体经济以及高管对新贸易政策看法的洞察。鉴于不确定性,公司可能不愿提供业绩指引,但值得关注的是否会有公司宣布新的股票回购或削减增长预期和股息。银行可能增加贷款损失准备金,因为对信贷的担忧正在上升。本周其他值得关注的事件包括美联储会议纪要、3月份消费者物价指数(CPI)以及密歇根大学消费者信心指数。美联储3月中旬的会议纪要可能阐明当时更新的经济和利率预测背后的想法。芝加哥期权交易所波动率指数(VIX)的波动反映了市场的不确定性。美联储5月份降息的可能性已上升至近50%。大部分美国国债收益率接近关税公告前的水平,10年期美国国债收益率基本持平于4月1日的收盘价,并回升至4.2%以上。道琼斯工业平均指数周二下跌320.01点,标普500指数下跌79.48点,纳斯达克综合指数下跌335.35点。 Colin Martin: 上周股市下跌后的反弹可能源于对与其他国家达成贸易协议的乐观预期,但预计未来波动性较大,关税将减缓经济增长并推高通胀,这对投资者来说并非好结果。与所有征收高额关税的国家达成协议可能需要很长时间,任何积极或消极的更新都可能导致收益率大幅波动。高收益债券利差已扩大至长期平均水平,表明投资者担心在如此不确定的前景下承担过多的风险。如果关税仍然存在,考虑到高关税可能对经济增长的损害,利差可能会进一步扩大。周二能源、非必需消费品和材料类股票大幅下跌。 Nathan Peterson: 周一隔夜期货交易中市场处于严重超卖状态,导致昨日开始出现技术性反弹,随后出现逆转,这本质上是熊市行为。由于关税谈判尚未取得任何真正积极的进展,市场正在消化一种结果,即关税税率与特朗普上周宣布的税率相比没有变化。

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Tuesday's market experienced a dramatic reversal, shifting from early gains to late losses due to the lack of progress in President Trump's trade war and the implementation of heavy U.S. tariffs on imports from China. Hopes were initially raised by positive headlines, but the absence of further news led to a sell-off.
  • Dramatic market reversal from early gains to late losses
  • Lack of progress in President Trump's trade war
  • Heavy U.S. tariffs on imports from China take effect

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Welcome to the Schwab Market Update podcast, where we prepare you for each trading day with a recap of recent news and a look at what's ahead. I'm Keith Lansford, and here is Schwab's early look at the markets for Wednesday, April 9th. Tuesday's turnaround from early rally to late sell-off reflected lack of progress in President Trump's trade war as heavy U.S. tariffs take effect today.

Hopes flared Tuesday morning on some positive headlines, but midday brought no fresh news and it appears China isn't ready to come to the table. The U.S. 104% tariffs on imports from China begin today, putting that nearly $600 billion trade relationship effectively on ice.

On the other side of the world, Trump rejected Europe's first offer to resolve the situation, though the administration says dozens of countries are talking with U.S. officials. It's unclear how long these negotiations might take, but it's very tough on businesses of all types that won't know the rules or will learn rules for each country as they trickle in. This could keep the market on edge for quite a while.

Delta Airlines unofficially kicks off earnings season this morning. The airline industry had a tough first quarter even before last week's tariff news undercut their shares dramatically. Many have already sliced guidance, but it wouldn't be surprising to hear more bad news not just from airlines, but from railroads and trucking firms set to report soon.

Constellation Brands, an alcoholic beverage company, is also on tap today and could have an interesting perspective considering imports of bourbon and beer are on the front lines of President Trump's trade battle. Big bank earnings begin Friday and could provide insight on how the broader economy is reacting to the new trade policy, as well as executives' thinking. JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon issued a gloomy shareholders' letter Monday on tariffs.

Though companies aren't likely to be very eager to provide guidance given all the uncertainty, it might be interesting to see if any announce new stock buybacks now that their shares are down so much so fast. Another less positive earnings season development might be cuts to previous growth estimates based on tariffs or possible slices to dividends as companies try to preserve margins amid rising costs.

Banks specifically may be adding to their loan loss provisions as credit fears rise. The credit spread widened last week, suggesting it could be tougher for companies and consumers to borrow. Banks might face questions about loans they have on their books and whether they have any concerns about defaults from customers in the event of a recession. If loan loss provisions rise, that would likely hurt future bank industry profit growth.

Other things to watch this week are Federal Reserve Minutes this afternoon and the March Consumer Price Index, or CPI, Thursday. University of Michigan Preliminary Consumer Sentiment Data Friday could also be closely scrutinized for inflation expectations. Four CPIs scheduled tomorrow at 8.30 a.m. ET. Analysts expect mild 0.2% monthly gains in both the headline and core readings, with core excluding volatile food and energy prices.

Fed minutes date back to mid-March and might provide clarity on thoughts behind updated economic and rate projections issued then. The SIBO volatility index, or VIX, popped as high as 60 early Monday, slipped below 40 by early Tuesday, then stormed back late Tuesday. The tremors from last week's sell-off may continue for quite some time.

Odds of a rate cut at the Federal Reserve's May meeting hit nearly 50% on the CME FedWatch tool as of late Tuesday, up from 25% as recently as Tuesday morning. Several Fed speakers are scheduled this week after Fed Chairman Jerome Powell signaled little enthusiasm for any quick policy changes when he spoke last Friday. Meanwhile, Treasury auctions returned Tuesday to little demand for $58 billion in three-year notes, which helped push yields to more gains.

Most Treasury yields traded close to where they were pre-tariff announcement on Tuesday, with the 10-year Treasury yield essentially flat from the April 1st close and back above 4.2%. A 10-year Treasury note auction is on schedule today.

The reversal from last week's decline likely stems from optimism around potential deals being made with other countries regarding trade agreements. But we expect a lot of volatility going forward, said Colin Martin, director of fixed income strategy at the Schwab Center for Financial Research. The tariffs, as announced, would likely slow down economic growth and boost inflation, not a good outcome for investors.

Making deals with all the countries with high tariffs slapped on their imports will likely take a lot of time, and any updates, positive or negative, can lead to wide swings in yields. High-yield bond spreads have widened back to long-term averages after staying narrow for many months, suggesting investors are worried about taking on too much risk with such an uncertain outlook.

The spreads could rise even more if tariffs remain in place, considering the damage high tariffs might do to economic growth, Martin added. From a sector view, energy, consumer discretionary and materials stocks finished deep in the red Tuesday, but every S&P sector was down after a day that began with 4% gains for the Nasdaq composite.

The early jump makes clear that investors are ready to pile back into stocks if there's good news on trade. And it's interesting to see that financials and tech led the rally before it failed. Those are two sectors that typically rise when investors get positive about the economy.

The S&P 500, up more than 3% at times early Tuesday, belly-flopped in the last hour to briefly below 4,915, the level that signals a bear market of 20% from recent highs. It ended down just 1.6% for the day, forging one of the steepest daily reversals recorded in Wall Street history to rival those seen during the 2008 financial crisis.

Markets at extremely oversold levels in overnight futures trading on Monday, lending to a technical bounce that started from those extremes yesterday into today, and then a rollover which is essentially bear market behavior, said Nathan Peterson, director of derivatives analysis at the Schwab Center for Financial Research.

Since we haven't yet had any real positive developments on the tariff negotiations, markets are in the process of pricing in an outcome lower that equates to no change in tariff rates from the ones Trump announced last week.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 320.01 points Tuesday or 0.84% to 37,645.59. The S&P 500 Index dropped 79.48 points or 1.57% to 4,982.77. And the Nasdaq Composite slipped 335.35 points or 2.15% to 15,267.91.

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