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Could We Speak to Dolphins? A Promising LLM Makes That a Possibility

2025/5/23
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Rachel Feltman: 我认为海豚非常聪明和可爱,我一直好奇它们在想什么。梅丽莎·霍布森向我介绍了 Dolphin Gemma 项目,这是一个旨在解码海豚叫声的大型语言模型,这让我对我们是否能与海豚交流充满了期待。 Melissa Hobson: 我发现水下环境充满了声音,海豚主要通过声音进行交流。它们的声音交流方式非常广泛,包括口哨声、咔哒声和爆发脉冲声。Dolphin Gemma 项目利用人工智能来分析这些声音,希望能帮助我们理解海豚的语言。 Thea Taylor: 作为一名海洋生物学家,我对人工智能模型如何促进我们对海豚交流的理解非常感兴趣。我认为我们需要小心区分动物是否真正理解语言,还是仅仅将声音与奖励联系起来。我们必须以科学和公正的态度看待这个问题。 Arik Kirschenbaum: 我认为我们并不完全了解海豚是如何交流的,也不知道它们有多少话要说。我认为人工智能可以帮助我们发现人类可能没有注意到的模式。但是,我认为海豚可能没有我们所拥有的那种语言,因为语言是一种非常复杂且昂贵的东西,需要进化优势。 Thad Starner: 我和我的团队一直在努力重现一种叫做 VCM3 的特殊声音,但是我们一直没有成功。令我惊讶的是,Dolphin Gemma 竟然能够生成这种声音。我们希望通过 Dolphin Gemma 了解海豚如何完成声音序列,并发现它们交流的模式。 Denise Herzing: 我和我的团队花了 40 年时间研究大西洋斑点海豚,并收集了大量的声学数据。我们使用这些数据来训练 Dolphin Gemma。我们还开发了一种叫做 CHAT 的技术,可以让我们与海豚进行双向交流。我们希望通过这种技术,我们可以向海豚展示系统是如何工作的,并鼓励它们模仿我们的声音。

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Dolphins have a broad vocabulary. They vocalize with whistles, clicks and “burst pulses.”This varied communication makes it challenging for scientists to decode dolphin speech. Artificial intelligence can help researchers process audio and find the slight patterns that human ears may not be able to identify. Reporter Melissa Hobson took a look at DolphinGemma, a large language model created by Google in collaboration with the Wild Dolphin Project and the Georgia Institute of Technology. The project seeks to unravel the clicks from the whistles and to understand what dolphins chat about under the waves. 

Recommended reading:

Read our article about DolphinGemma: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/can-ai-let-us-chat-with-dolphins/)

Watch our video about the project: https://www.tiktok.com/@scientificamerican/video/7499862659072871723

Keep up with Hobson’s reporting: 

http://www.melissahobson.co.uk/)

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Science Quickly is produced by Rachel Feltman, Fonda Mwangi, Kelso Harper, Naeem Amarsy and Jeff DelViscio. This episode was co-hosted by Rachel Feltman. Our show is edited by Alex Sugiura with fact-checking by Shayna Posses and Aaron Shattuck. The theme music was composed by Dominic Smith.

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