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661 - Screenwriting is a Poorly Defined Problem

2024/10/15
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John August和Craig Mazin探讨了编剧工作的难度,以及为什么那些在学校表现出色的人并不一定擅长编剧。他们认为,编剧工作面临许多难以定义的问题,这些问题与我们通常衡量和量化的“智力”不同,更接近于“智慧”。他们分析了流媒体行业的变化对编剧职业的影响,以及编剧在创作和职业发展中面临的挑战。他们认为,编剧不应该过度“算计”,而应该专注于创作自己热爱并相信的作品。 John August和Craig Mazin还讨论了如何评价编剧作品,以及如何应对流媒体平台对数据分析的过度依赖。他们认为,不要试图过度控制编剧创作过程,也不要过度依赖外部评价来衡量自己的作品。他们还分享了自己对一些电影的看法,并对听众提交的三个剧本进行了点评,指出其优点和不足,并提出改进建议。

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Why is screenwriting so challenging, even for intelligent people?

Screenwriting is a poorly defined problem, requiring a mix of creative intuition, personal connection, and market understanding. Skills in well-defined problems like standardized tests don't always translate well. Intelligence alone doesn't guarantee success; wisdom and genuine feeling are crucial.

What does Craig mean by writers being 'calculating'?

Being 'calculating' means trying to game the system by writing what you think the market wants rather than what you genuinely believe in. It involves making choices based on external metrics rather than personal creativity. Good screenwriting should come from the heart and be defended against calculations that dilute its core message.

Why are residuals no longer delivered in green envelopes and what is the impact?

Residuals are now digitally deposited, which is more efficient but lacks the personal and emotional value of receiving a physical green envelope. The green envelopes were a source of joy, validation, and a ritual that screenwriters treasured. While digital deposits are practical, they miss the human touch and the excitement of opening a physical check.

What are some key elements of a compelling pilot episode?

A compelling pilot episode should introduce the world and characters effectively, set up the main conflict, and engage the audience. It should avoid mundane and clichéd dialogue, provide a clear sense of the setting, and build intrigue without overloading the audience with information. The first scene should grab attention and make the audience want to know more.

Why is the first three-page submission 'Flunge' exciting but problematic?

The submission 'Flunge' is exciting due to its unique premise and well-designed title page. However, it's problematic because the fencing and wrestling scenes are too intense back-to-back, and the transition between them feels abrupt. The characters' motivations and the world's rules need more clarity, especially in the fencing match scene and the coach's interaction.

What are the strengths and weaknesses of the second three-page submission 'COWS'?

The submission 'COWS' has a good rhythm and flow but feels too mundane and lacks world-building. The dialogue is quippy but doesn't feel real or engaging. It needs to establish why the story is set in a world of anthropomorphic cows and what unique elements this brings to the narrative. The first three pages should introduce the central conflict and make the audience curious.

What are the key issues with the third three-page submission 'Never Die Alone'?

The submission 'Never Die Alone' has a powerful and unique concept but is overwritten and lacks clarity in its timeline. The opening sequence on the barge is highly stylized but confusing, and the transition to the domestic scene with Adam and Sarah is jarring. The story needs a clearer structure, more concise language, and a better understanding of the relationship dynamics between characters.

Why are traditional studio development processes changing?

Traditional studio development processes are becoming more streamlined. Instead of having numerous scripts in development, studios now prefer to greenlight projects with a script, actor, and director already attached. This shift reflects a more cautious and humble approach, acknowledging the unpredictable nature of what works in the market. It means fewer developmental deals but a higher chance of a project being made once a deal is signed.

What is the significance of the pitch clock in baseball and how does it relate to screenwriting?

The pitch clock in baseball is a timer to speed up the game, but it doesn't define the game's duration. Similarly, in screenwriting, while there are elements of structure and timing, the craft itself is not a well-defined problem. It requires a balance between creative intuition and adherence to rules, much like how a pitcher must manage the clock while also making strategic decisions.

What advice do John and Craig give for writing a feature script based on an award-winning short film?

They recommend expanding the short into a feature by focusing on a compelling theme or character that resonates deeply. Having a feature script ready before attending festivals can help capitalize on the short's success. It's important to maintain the unique elements that made the short stand out while building a more extensive narrative that explores those elements further.

Chapters
John and Craig brainstorm ideas for episode 666 of Scriptnotes, considering the number's association with Halloween and the devil. They discuss classic horror films like *The Exorcist* and *The Omen*, and reflect on the changing landscape of streaming and the contraction of the television industry.
  • Brainstorming episode ideas for Scriptnotes episode 666.
  • Discussion of The Exorcist and The Omen.
  • Reflection on the changing television industry and streaming landscape.

Shownotes Transcript

Why is screenwriting so difficult, even for the smartest people? John and Craig look at the relationship between intelligence and wisdom, the kinds of problems writers attempt to solve, and the unmeasurable skills that screenwriters need to succeed.

Then it’s another round of the Three Page Challenge, where they give their honest feedback on three listener-submitted scripts. We also follow up on Moneyball, green envelopes, shorts, script coordinating, and what Craig means by writers being “calculating.”

In our bonus segment for premium members, how do you talk about movies and TV shows without spoiling them? John and Craig reason out how to dance around the twist that the two leads are actually the same perso– oh, shoot!

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