Stefanie (@shesallbach) and Jackie (@jackiemaroney_) talk through the latest Bachelor gossip including Nick playing "Switzerland" in the Johnny vs. Victoria drama and Clare's shocking revelations about what producers did to her when she was The Bachelorette.

Ben Zorn from Kaitlyn's season of The Bachelorette calls in to chat about his Bachelor in Paradise edit which made him appear obsessed with his dog, what producers told him off camera, and why he turned down The Bachelor.

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The Show Outside the Show (feat. Ben Zorn)