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New Podcast Series – "Studying China in the Absence of Access: Rediscovering a Lost Art" from Johns Hopkins SAIS

2025/1/23
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Andrew Murtha: 本研讨会旨在应对中国学者实地研究受限的现状,探讨如何将过去学者积累的方法和工具应用于当代中国研究。研讨会分为三个部分:演讲、讨论和问答。 Fred Teiwes: 我目前的研究重点是后毛泽东时代的早期过渡时期,即1976年到1981年。我认为,对中国精英政治的详细研究,特别是试图接近领导人之间的谈话,不仅在习近平时代,在整个后天安门时代都是不可能的。我的研究基于对各种史料的深入挖掘,包括公开媒体、文件、档案、人事资料、外国资料和敏感文件,以及对党史学家的访谈。这些资料形成一个整体,但存在巨大的空白,需要谨慎对待。 我与沃伦·孙合作多年,他的资料收集能力和分析能力都非常出色。我们关注的是现有叙事中的问题和不确定性,而不是我们已知的信息。所有这些资料形成一个马赛克,但存在巨大的空白,需要谨慎对待,避免过度解读。 我对后毛泽东时代早期的研究表明,现有的文献对这一时期存在误解。例如,邓小平在第三届全会上启动改革的说法是错误的,华国锋在这一时期发挥了重要作用。‘两个凡是’并非完全是为了阻止邓小平复出。“真理标准大讨论”并非纯粹的权力斗争,而是一场学术争论,其中也包含个人冲突和政策分歧。 中国政治文化中对老革命家的尊重是这一时期的一个重要特征,对稳定和团结的重视也是如此。邓小平虽然进行了权力斗争,但也关注毛泽东的声誉。习近平时代对党史研究的限制,使得获取信息和进行研究更加困难。 在研究方法方面,我们需要关注的是:领导人对稳定和团结的重视,权力冲突的具体性质,党内文化,以及稳定和团结的理想。我们需要对现有知识进行质疑,并寻找新的证据来支持我们的研究结论。 Fred Teiwes: 我目前的研究重点是后毛泽东时代的早期过渡时期,即1976年到1981年。我认为,对中国精英政治的详细研究,特别是试图接近领导人之间的谈话,不仅在习近平时代,在整个后天安门时代都是不可能的。我的研究基于对各种史料的深入挖掘,包括公开媒体、文件、档案、人事资料、外国资料和敏感文件,以及对党史学家的访谈。这些资料形成一个整体,但存在巨大的空白,需要谨慎对待。 我与沃伦·孙合作多年,他的资料收集能力和分析能力都非常出色。我们关注的是现有叙事中的问题和不确定性,而不是我们已知的信息。所有这些资料形成一个马赛克,但存在巨大的空白,需要谨慎对待,避免过度解读。 我对后毛泽东时代早期的研究表明,现有的文献对这一时期存在误解。例如,邓小平在第三届全会上启动改革的说法是错误的,华国锋在这一时期发挥了重要作用。‘两个凡是’并非完全是为了阻止邓小平复出。“真理标准大讨论”并非纯粹的权力斗争,而是一场学术争论,其中也包含个人冲突和政策分歧。 中国政治文化中对老革命家的尊重是这一时期的一个重要特征,对稳定和团结的重视也是如此。邓小平虽然进行了权力斗争,但也关注毛泽东的声誉。习近平时代对党史研究的限制,使得获取信息和进行研究更加困难。 在研究方法方面,我们需要关注的是:领导人对稳定和团结的重视,权力冲突的具体性质,党内文化,以及稳定和团结的理想。我们需要对现有知识进行质疑,并寻找新的证据来支持我们的研究结论。

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This chapter explores the challenges and methods of studying Chinese elite politics, particularly during periods of restricted access. It emphasizes the importance of meticulous research across diverse sources, comparing it to mining for rare earth elements, and highlights the need for rigorous analysis to avoid misinterpretations.
  • Challenges in studying Chinese elite politics due to restricted access
  • Comparison of research methods to 'mining' for information
  • Importance of diverse sources and careful analysis

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This week, I bring you the first in a series of podcasts in conjunction with the China Research Center at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies (SAIS). The series, titled "Studying China in the Absence of Access: Rediscovering a Lost Art," ran from September to November 2021, and featured four eminent "Pekingologists," or specialists in Chinese elite politics: Joseph Fewsmith, Thomas Fingar, Alice Miller, and Fred Tiewes. The talks were later published in a volume you can download here). The series is introduced by Andrew Mertha, George and Sadie Hyman, Professor of China Studies and director of the SAIS China Research Center, and each lecture includes a moderated discussion with Andy. After this series, I'll also be sharing with you a second series of lectures titled "Studying China from Elsewhere," which will include talks by Maria Repnikova, Mike Lampton, William Hurst, and Maggie Lewis — many of whom Sinica listeners will know from the show.

This week's talk is from FrederickTiewes, truly a legend in the field. The American-born Australian sinologist is best known for his analysis of Chinese Communist Party elite politics. He served as a professor emeritus in Government and International Relations at the University of Sydney until his retirement in 2006. Teiwes has frequently collaborated with Warren Sun, producing seminal works such as The Tragedy of Lin Biao) (1996) and *China’s Road to Disaster: *Mao, Central Politicians and Provincial Leaders in the Great Leap Forward), 1955-59 (1999). In this talk, he focuses on forthcoming work on the transition following Mao Zedong's death in 1976.

Great thanks to Andy and to Hasta Colman, who first suggested this collaboration when we met in Shanghai recently.

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