Deep Dive
Shownotes Transcript
It's summertime and it is officially self-care season. How are you taking care of yourself? Are you working out? Are you eating healthy using that sunscreen that you're supposed to use? Well, whether you're off to the pool, hiking, or traveling this summer, you can bring your microbiomes with you too. That's right.
Seeds DS01 Daily Symbiotic benefits your gut, skin, and heart health with just two capsules a day. I've been really trying to figure out my health journey. I've been telling you guys about this, especially since I'm 30. And one thing I've noticed is that my gut...
I have to make sure that this is all the way together. And Seeds DS01 Daily Symbiotic has been so great for me. Your body is an entire ecosystem and your gut is the central hub for various pathways through your body. And a healthy gut microbiome means benefits for digestion, skin health, heart health and immune system and so much more. And trust me, this is backed by science. A lot of science.
So support your gut this summer with Seeds DS01 Daily Symbiotic. Go to seed.com slash sisters and use code 25 sisters to get 25% off your first month. That's 25% off your first month of Seeds DS01 Daily Symbiotic at seed.com slash sisters code 25.
25 sisters. I love being outside. And when I mean being outside, I mean going to events.
concerts, baseball games, basketball games, anything that you can think of. I love being just in the mix. My family has a tradition of going to the Braves game every single year and I haven't missed a year yet. And this year buying tickets is going to be easier than ever with the Game Time app. I'm using the Game Time app to buy Father's Day Braves tickets for my cousin and for the rest of my family and we'll all get together. And the deals that I see for these seats are a
So much cheaper than they would have been going through any other app or the team website. I can customize my spot. They've got flash deals. And I am so excited about all the MLB games that I will be able to see this year because finally there's something in my budget. You can save up to 60% off when buying last minute tickets for sports, concerts,
comedy theaters, anything that you can get a ticket for. And trust me, it is the lowest price guaranteed. And you know that means a lot to me. And if you find a price that's lower, don't you worry your pretty little head. Game Time will credit you 110% of the difference. Now that is a guarantee that I can work for.
So take the guesswork of buying tickets with GameTime. Download the GameTime app, create an account, and use the code SISTAS to get $20 off your first purchase. Terms apply. Again, create an account and redeem with the code SISTAS to get $20 off. Download the GameTime app today. Last-minute tickets, lowest price, guaranteed.
what's going on everybody i'm ara and i'm taz and welcome back to sisters who kill shout out to y'all people are fucking with us y'all tiktok is crazy y'all have came through and showed out and i love each and every one of y'all if you saw on our tiktok this week if you're not following us it's sisters who kill podcast on tiktok we talked about daisha phillips and this was a young lady that lost her life because she got butt injections by someone that actually
Wasn't a medical professional at all. Was actually doing it in a hotel. Go to TikTok and you'll find it out. But today, we have a crazy story about a doctor turned evil. ♪♪
If you're listening to this, you probably already know what I'm about to say. That today is the day for you to start your podcast. You have everything that you need. Your computer, a little microphone, and Spotify for podcasters. It is the all-in-one platform where you can host, edit, and record your podcast and distribute it everywhere. Where you're listening right now, you can have your podcast there. I promise. For real. And it's free. And you can make some money off of your podcast. For free. For free.
Free money. Free money is out there. Just go get it by starting your podcast today. Okay, today we only have three players. April Jenkins, that's our first patient. Erica Bobrin, that's our second patient. And then we have Dr. Nedra Dodds, and she is awesome.
are murderous so we have a bit of a dr death episode going on today not an ad but dr deathly wonder is like literally my favorite and this case reminds me of that so much now dr nidra dodd started her love for butts her fascination with asses from a very young age since about
her senior year of high school, which I guess isn't too young. Like, I definitely was noticing ass my senior year of high school. She had a senior memories book with a whole section dedicated to photos of her classmates' asses. And she was just like, you know, anybody can appreciate a nice ass. And I agree. I agree.
So after she graduated from high school, she had a brief career as a model. Yes, she traveled the world, they say. We couldn't find any sources to back that up. But that's what they say. And then she went to college and studied to become a plastic surgeon. In 1993, she graduated with honors from Meharry Medical College School of Medicine. Now, Meharry is one of the top HBCU medical schools. It has such a rich history. It was the first medical school in the South to offer four-year trainings.
Back in the day, there were like 14 black medical schools that existed. And then this new report came out saying that like, these are the standards of what a medical school should be. And I think it was called the Flexer Report. And after that, only two schools remained that were teaching black people how to become doctors.
and Meharry was one of them. Now, Meharry is doing this really cool thing, and I feel like we just need to plug it, and we're going to get back to the story, but Meharry is doing this really cool thing with Tennessee State University, which is another HBCU that is getting black people through their degrees and to get their medical and dental degree in seven years. So they do three years at Tennessee State and four years at Meharry, which is like HBCUs coming together to make sure that we have black doctors, which is amazing because we need them. And affordable because you're like taking at least one year off.
medical school exactly and you're being taught by black instructors so you know how to treat black patients oh it definitely makes a difference being taught by black teachers i don't think i've ever had a non-black doctor my pediatrician was black oh my doctors were always right fuck that shit when i had that surgery senior year of high school black surgeon she was like the first black surgeon from emory that did some amazing shit so she went to a really great medical school
Not only did she go to Meharry, but she did her residency at SUNY Health Center in Brooklyn. SUNY stands for State University of New York City. She also had training under the former U.S. General Surgeon, Dr. David Satcher. So, like, pretty good fucking training, you know? This guy, like, comes up with the rules of what's safe for us all over the country. She strived to be the best and she continued everything.
educating herself on the latest trends in product and procedures. She also served quite a few accredited boards. She was a part of the American Medical Association. She was a part of the Medical Association of Aesthetic Medicine and Surgery. She was a part of the American College of Emergency Physicians, American Academy of Cosmetic Surgery, American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine. So she was certified on certified on certified. She had
her shit she had her ducks in a row you know so we thought for a long time she did yeah when she's first starting out it's like the 90s and y'all know AIDS was an epidemic at this point and it was very misunderstood and so at this time a lot of doctors were like basically treating people who are HIV positive like
big ass germs. Right. Wouldn't touch them without gloves, even though it's only spread through like bodily fluid. So you can't touch somebody and get AIDS. Well, for a long time, I think that a lot of like TV shows talk about that, like pose, like when you were considered to have AIDS, it was just like, there's nothing we can do about you.
It's just a number at this point. And physicians really weren't caring about these patients. They weren't caring about their well-being. They weren't caring about making sure that they were happy and healthy and whole. Dr. Dodds wanted to be a shift in that conversation. She was not using gloves when she was examining her patients for consultations. And it made HIV positive patients feel normal and at home and accepted how you should feel. They literally were like, I feel human again. Right. How you should feel at the doctor.
She kind of grew her LGBTQ audience. Like, she was like, I want to be here for these people. Because after people got past the whole AIDS thing, the new taboo became working on trans women. Basically, again, you see it a lot on Pose, but they have these parties in hotels called pumping parties where they're getting silicone injected into them because these are the people who will work on them and these are what they can afford. And they're trying to do whatever they can to be in the body that they feel comfortable in. Right. Then what?
when it's shit fucks up the doctors are like i'm not touching that shit so high risk right nidra was like i will work on you i will help she also made it affordable so you wouldn't be in those situations in the first place so she was doing the right things and really being a pillar in the community
She said, And I feel like that is all that everybody is asking for. You know? Right. That's all.
that women are asking for that is all that black women are asking for that is all that black trans women are asking for like just treat me as a human treat me with respect like why is that so hard for you to see me as a human woman as I am and then a lot of people use the excuse I don't get it but like you don't have to get it because if I told you I feel disrespected by this no matter if you get it or not you know that I feel disrespected
So you continuing to do it is a choice to keep disrespecting. Right. In 2006, Dr. Dodds opened up her own med spa. It was called Opulence Aesthetic Medicine and it was an quote award winning med spa. She was all about helping people to love their bodies and to feel good and all the things that people go to the med spa for. So she studied her craft and...
she became known as the butt doctor. Like, if you wanted a nice ass, you went to her. Right. And she was like, I look at your body as a whole. Like, I look at how bodies are built with the abs and how football players, what the squats do and how their butt is lifted and I'm sculpting these type of asses. Like, she was serious about this shit. In high school, I thought that I could play this game. I could guess a guy's
based off of his ass. Oh, because you can always tell them football players and big, heavy... Football players, baseball players got bubble butts and then wrestlers kind of have like slender, muscular butts.
She felt like she could give anybody the ass that they wanted. And she opened up her practice. She wanted to have a gay-inclusive staff because this is something that was important to her. Then she goes on to say she doesn't see sexuality, preference, color, gender, just people. And I personally hate when people say that.
You are doing nobody any favors by ignoring what makes me me. Right. Like, the first thing I am is black. You better see it because I'm fucking proud of it. Don't tell me you don't see color. I see fucking color. She had this practice. She opened it up and it did pretty well, I guess.
It actually was doing well for a while. People were traveling from far distances to come and be treated by Dr. Dodds. So this takes place in Atlanta and, you know, I could see, I went in a deep dive on her Instagram, and I could see that she was really on the scene with these Atlanta doctors.
Because, you know, we all know them from Married to Medicine. And she's got pictures with Dr. Simone and stuff. And I feel like she maybe even wanted to be on Bravo. She, like, posted some picture talking about Married to, hashtag Married to Medicine. Maybe she, like, auditioned. I don't really, I've never watched that show. It's, you need to watch it. It's fucking amazing. But maybe she was backstage or something. But could you imagine if she was on the cast and then this case happened? Oh, they would tear her ass up. Oh, I would fucking love it. And then some, it would be so fucking good.
Which brings us to February 19, 2013. On that day, 37-year-old April Jenkins went to Dr. Dodds for liposuction and fat transfer to her butt. She was pretty excited and she showed up with her fiancé, happily about to get married, you know? Unfortunately, she didn't.
She never made it out of that procedure. After surgery, April began to wake up. She sat up and she literally had no controls over her bowels. She just urinated on herself. Then she was having a seizure and then she was in full cardiac arrest. They were trying to save her during CPR, defibrillation, and reversal drugs. After 10 minutes, they finally called 911.
911 came, they intervened, they continued CPR and using the defibrillator, and they were trying to suction out her airways because they were trying to literally save her life. They transported her to Keystone Emergency Room where she was pronounced dead on arrival. According to Dr. Dodds, complications arose.
And that's all she got to say about that at the time. Which brings us to a few months later. Erica Brogren came in on June 20th, just four months later. Now, Erica came from Florida to Georgia to have this surgery, which isn't Florida like the hot spot for getting work done? Florida is a horrible state. But like that's where people go for plastic surgery. Like Dr. Miami, right? Miami is, yes. But Miami is like Miami. Okay.
28-year-old Erica Bobrin was being cared for by Dr. Nedra. She went in to get her silicone implants removed. During surgery, she goes into cardiac arrest. When the fire department arrived, they find Erica lying in a pool of blood. She'd been in cardiac arrest for a while. They gave her reversal drugs. They gave her CPR.
They were doing all this stuff to stop it, but finally realized they couldn't. After 20 minutes, Dr. Dodds and her team finally called 911. The 911 call, it didn't say that somebody needed serious attention. It said that, like, they had a patient that needed, like, help.
help but not like emergent help you know what i mean like when you call 9-1-1 and they dispatch your calls there's like a serious level to it you know and it's like oh we got a patient who needs to get over there not like we have a patient who's dying you know what i mean the fire department arrives and they start performing life-saving techniques they're giving her more reversal drugs until they can't give her anymore like they're maxing her out on this stuff they begin to lose hope and then all of a sudden erica regains a heartbeat
They put her in an ambulance. They rush her to the hospital. And by the time the fire department left, they said she was either brain dead or deceased, but she was not going to make it. They were so upset about this that they ended up calling the police and they stated in a police report that they believe that what they were dealing with were crimes against persons of suspicious activity because of what was happening at this medical spa. This led to a suspension of Dr. Dodd's license and an investigation that would decide if
it should stay suspended. So August 13th, a few months after her death, April Jenkins' family filed a malpractice suit. At this time, the practice is still open. Still just out here giving surgery to anybody. Wonderful care. Flash forward to February 28th, 2014. The state board has opened an investigation against Nedra. This is basically like her hearing day. They kind of went back through the case and
And it turns out April's vitals were not checked before surgery. They were not checked during surgery. They never placed a heart monitor on her. And there were no nurses in the room at the time of the surgery. They found that April had died of a fat embolism, which means like fat clogged up in your bloodstream. Yeah. And...
The ME report shows that she had a perforation or like a stab mark in her diaphragm and multiple puncture wounds in her liver. The staff reported that April was the fourth and final procedure of the day and that Jenkins liked to rush her surgeries, especially the last one.
How do you just rush the fact my body? What? They also reported that Jenkins had complained of tearing and burning throughout the procedure and that Dodds told her to be quiet and that this is what she paid for so she was going to get it done. The staff said when April started screaming, they stuffed a rag that had been soaked in propofol in her mouth. What is propofol? It's like propofol. Propofol. What is that? It's an anesthetic. And that was on the towel?
Right. That was in her mouth. Right. When medical personnel arrived. Right. Okay. I deep dived into this little report and I actually got a statement from the person who put the rag in her mouth. And they're like, so you stuffed the rag in her mouth? And she's like, well, I don't want to make it sound like that. Like, we had a rag behind her head to support her neck.
And she started screaming. And so I was just kind of like, here, bite down on this. And it was like, but this is not the Civil War. She was like, I mean, I don't want it to sound worse than it is. Or like, I don't care. But like, they said, did you put the rag in her mouth to silence her? Or did you put it in her mouth to help her? And she was like, I mean, kind of both. Because we have patients in the waiting room and she's screaming. And her fiance's there. Also her fiance, yeah. And I don't want him to be alarmed.
So, but also some people find it helpful to bite down on something because it helps with the pain. I have had oral surgery with local anesthetics, which it seems like was supposed to be happening here. And you feel pressure, but you do not feel pain.
And she's like, it's burning. It's tearing. That's called, and you should not be feeling that. They said that the propofol was not listed on her chart, probably because they gave it to her through a rag, and she probably wasn't actually supposed to have any more of it or wasn't planned to have any. Somewhere along the way, her liver got cut with a trocar, which is like a medical instrument that they use to, I guess, suck out the fat.
Yes, it's a big, long, thick needle. They come anywhere from like 3 millimeters thick to like, I think I saw it after like 15. That's a big ass needle sticking in you and sucking out your shit. And it's stabbing her liver while you're trying to have a liposuction surgery? That transfer into your butt? How?
You in the wrong, you in a whole wrong spot. Then they go on to Erica's medical report, which showed that she did not die of natural causes, but rather of an irregular heartbeat due to severe blood loss. And remember, she's the one who they found lying in a puddle of their blood. I don't know exactly what this means, but they said about 500 cc's of blood.
I don't know what that means either, but it seems like a lot. People who know things let us know. And I think the medical report said like 100 cc's was the expected amount of loss, you know what I'm saying, of blood.
but she lost 500. The report also stated that most of her surgical sites were not sutured or bandaged properly, which was the explanation for all the extra blood because you're not covering it up. Right. Or sewing it up or whatever. You just kind of wrap some shit around it and said you'd be alright. Even before these two losses came into play, people are saying that the
board received allegations that Don's was operating on high risk patients with high blood pressure, high glucose. There was a nurse who came forward and she's like, I already told everybody working there that they need to get out now because she's going to end up killing somebody. She's like, I've had to yell at her during surgery and tell her you need to stop performing now. And she would not stop performing until I yelled at her. So like the fact that a nurse already felt the need to leave, to not have this on her hands and it,
for it to come true but the thing is like shout out to any nurses that are listening because nurses know everything right they are the smartest most up-to-code personnel that there is and there are bad nurses but most of the time nurses like really genuinely love what they do and it's so and a nurse can't like they're not higher ranking than a doctor so what a doctor says goes but you there's so many times where doctors are looking at them wrong and they're doing that wrong
You're doing it wrong, but you have your degree that says otherwise. Right. So you guys remember at the top of the episode when I was saying that Dr. Dodds was a part of all these accredited associations, you know, American Medical Association, American Association, all of those. Turns out during her licensing hearing, they did a little research, made a few phone calls, and these associations ain't heard of her. Nope, not here. I think maybe one claimed her and it was like, yeah, six years ago. So nothing recent. Yeah.
Then, of course, the question to the board is, so why? Like, what the fuck? Why the fuck didn't you check and make sure that this woman who's saying that she's a part of these prestigious things are part of it? And they were like, look, that ain't our job. The board, the medical board said, look, that's not our job. Our job is to do claims, which...
We're doing a claim because the claim has come in. Other than that, we trust that they put down, you know, the truth. You're going to just trust. So y'all just lying on your resume and getting away with it. Because I know I'm lying on mine. I'm just scared to lie on mine. She even said that she had hospital privileges at two different hospitals.
And when the reporter looked into it, they was like, no, she doesn't. I believe this is important because when you are working out of a private practice, you don't have all the supplies and things that a hospital would. So when it comes time to do emergency care, you don't have the tools that you need. So then you're at least close enough to a hospital and you having hospital privileges there to continue your care with your patient. Whereas in
If you don't have privileges, you have to turn this patient over to a new doctor who has not been around with what's going on. And you have to catch them up to speed when it's life saving seconds that are into play. Not that she was counting those seconds because she waited 20 minutes before moving her to the hospital or even beginning the steps to moving her to the hospital. They even questioned, you know, why did you delay in calling for help? Because 20 minutes is a long fucking time.
time. It is. If I am dying on the table, call somebody. And she says, you need to realize that my facility and staff are medical personnel. So you're saying I didn't call medical personnel. We have the ability to stabilize a patient. So that's inaccurate. If you had the ability to stabilize a patient, then why wasn't your patient stabilized? Turns out,
that in fact she wasn't licensed in plastic surgery and only in emergency care. At the licensing hearing, Dr. Dodds testified, These events have been devastating to me, not because of my ego, but because I feel for any loss of patient.
She stepped out for lunch, y'all. Oh, oh.
Oh, okay. Thank you for making that, like, clarifying that because I had no idea. Okay. It was like, when you say lunch, she was like, they were like, did you go to Wendy's or something? She was like, no, probably just to the kitchen. And it was like, and what was there? And she was like, I don't know, probably some leftovers that the staff ordered earlier. She's like, it was like a quick bite to eat.
But... Which I understand, like, you have to do your day... You have to eat during lunch. I think he would plan around a surgery, though, right? Right. I just can't imagine stopping in the middle of a surgery to go eat. While somebody is literally laying there, cut the fuck open. That's just me. I would be so upset. Some physicians testified for her, some against her, which is where it would make the perfect Married to Medicine episode. So, like...
the doctors would be divided, those Team Nidra and those against, and how it affects the fan group. And this whole trial would be a big, it would be great to watch on TV. Anywho, Dr. Elizabeth Morgan says the surgeon is in charge and she has got to be there when the patient is in trouble. So there was no reason, you know, for her to leave, especially if you have a patient that's
showing signs of difficulty during a surgery. Like, if she's your patient, why would you leave her? Then it was asked to a different doctor, Dr. Thomas Locke, do you believe that Dr. Dodge did everything she could to save the life of April Jenkins? And he said yes. So it was very split. But then you had, like, reporters going around everywhere, like, of course, trying to be all up in the practice.
this, why you letting this happen, talking to the nurses and shit. And the nurses basically said, listen, we're not coming out publicly to speak out against her, but please understand that we sent statements verbal and in writing because we noticed warning signs. We noticed incidents that raised our concern. Our concerns were disregarded and even mocked. So do with that what you will. Way to go medical board.
At the end of the investigation, the board suspended her license. Now she can't practice medicine. Opulence is having some troubles. They can't pay their bills. And in March of 2014, Opulence ends up filing for bankruptcy. And that delays its civil suit. Oh yes, civil suit. That is because... So you'll get sued by whomever, right? And a civil suit is when you're being sued person to person. It is people courted.
And the families of April and Erica were now getting ready and gearing up to sue Dr. Dodds. So what does she do, you ask? Well, she goes down to St. Croix, Virgin Islands, and she becomes an emergency room consultant. Woo! Pump the brakes. How did we get here? I'm glad that you asked. Her license got suspended February. It's September 17, 2014, and need your needs work.
So she calls the chief medical officer down in the Virgin Island. He works at a hospital called Governor Juan F. Lewis Hospital in St. Croix. We're just going to call it JFL for short. She calls the chief medical officer over there and she's like, hey, I need a job. The chief medical officer goes to the CEO and he was like, hey, there's this doctor in Georgia.
she's having trouble with her practice and she's looking for work the ceo is like no i don't want them troubles we're not hiring her he goes out to his car one day and niger is in the parking lot waiting to talk to him that's fucking creepy sis needed a job okay he agrees to meet with her and she's like listen i had some issues back home basically i wasn't responsible but my name's on the door so i'm responsible and he said great you can start on monday
He's like, sure. He ran it by the chief medical officer. And the chief medical officer was like, it's your decision. He's like, I decided to give her a chance. And everybody was like, you're from Georgia. You know her. He's like, I do not know this woman. I promise. And everyone's like, well, why did you let her work there? Her license is suspended. He was like, okay. I admit, I didn't run a background check. But as soon as they dropped this story saying that she was working at my hospital without a license, I fired her.
that day she worked there from she worked there from september 17th to october 4th as soon as it hit the papers he was like you gots to go now it also turns out that this hospital was struggling to keep its accreditation like they were known for having bad care they were known for he says no patients were in harm's way while nidra was there because she did not work on patients
she was there to help with like customer service and billing issues more as a consultant okay not as a doctor per se but still she shouldn't be in those facilities at all you know so her license is suspended but it hasn't completely been revoked but
on November 9th, 2015, her license officially became revoked. So she can no longer practice medicine at all. She had the option to renew her license in a state hearing, but she decided not to. So now let's jump to January 28th, 2016. Dr. Dodds and her assistant, Dr. McCowan, got some very interesting news when the state of Georgia decided that they were indicting them for criminal charges
charges that's right for aggravated battery which is a felony and for felony murder now felony murder in the state of georgia is an automatic life sentence they also face charges of theft by deception all of this for the deaths of april and erica now after this dropped
Oh, the streets started talking. Everybody had something to say because apparently these two ladies are not the only people that got severely injured under the hand of Dr. Dodds. This lady named Alicia Quarles came out in February of 2016 and said that she went in for a tummy tuck and she left completely botched.
and without a belly button. And she wasn't, and this was another black woman, and a white woman also said, it could have been me, you know, oh my God. And she was also completely botched by Dr. Dodds. When Malisha was describing what was happening to her, she said when she was in the medical room, they pretty much had her laying down like,
crucified style. They had one on her left, one on her right, and they were holding her feet down, and she literally was begging them, please just stop. I'll call 911, but just stop. Just get me to the hospital. I'll take myself to the emergency room. Just stop. I can feel it. You are hurting me. And they just held her down and
forced her to continue this surgery. And remember when this was happening, she was still under some forms of anesthesia. So she was still somewhat in a woozy state, but even then she could feel it. And like I said, it's a local anesthetic. So yes, you can be awake. And I got a local anesthetic when getting your wisdom teeth removed, right? But like, I didn't feel the pain until it wore off after my surgery was completely over, you know? So everybody's trying to figure out what is going on with this woman. Like she...
was so prominent in the community and now these cases, what was her downfall? So the tea is, and it came from a source that didn't want to be named. So we don't know your name. She said that Dr. Dodds was having marital problems and that's when shit just started hitting the fan. Basically, she was starting to have marital problems. She started drinking and she was lazy in her work and it began to show. We get to January 11th, 2017 and
and criminal charges are dropped. The District Attorney, Vic Reynolds, wasn't convinced that he had enough for a criminal case after having other prosecutors review it. And he was like, "My obligation is not to be concerned with what I want, what I like, what my opinion is.
My decision is based on the facts of the law, and in the end, I don't have enough to make a case. Right, which really sucks because she definitely murdered these girls, but, like, can you prove that in the court of law? And it's very hard. It's hard because you go through this extensive learning to become a doctor, and now that you've gotten that, no one can mess with you anymore. You know, no one's really questioning your authority at that point.
There needs to be some type of checks and balances with our medical professional as they go throughout the years. Now, it really sucks because I think they could have probably gotten her on like... When Sisters Who Kill began, an online store was the furthest thing from our minds. I mean...
We didn't even know if this podcast was good or not. Now we're selling hats, we're selling sweatshirts, we're selling t-shirts, we're selling rolling papers, and it is so easy. All because we at ShopSistersWhoKill.com use Shopify.
Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. From the launch your store online stage to the first real life store stage, all the way to did we just hit a million dollars stage? Shopify is there to help you grow. So whether you're selling sleuthing supplies or marketing mystery merch,
Shopify helps you sell everywhere from their all-in-one e-commerce platform to their in-person POS system. Wherever or whatever you're selling, Shopify has got you covered. Shopify helps you turn browsers into buyers with its internet's best converting checkout up to 36% better compared to other leading commerce platforms. And now you can sell more with less effort thanks to Shopify Magic, your AI-powered platform.
One thing that we really love about Shopify is that the analytics are absolutely amazing. We love looking at the numbers, love seeing who's coming to our page, love to see who's purchasing. And it just makes us feel like we're really growing as a brand. And Shopify has everything that we need so that we can make it to the next level. Shopify powers 10% of all e-commerce in the U.S.,
And Shopify is the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and millions of other entrepreneurs of every size across 175 countries. Plus, Shopify's extensive help resources are there to support your success every step of the way. Because businesses that grow, grow with Shopify.
Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at shopify.com slash sisters, all lowercase. Go to shopify.com slash sisters now to grow your business, no matter what stage you're in. shopify.com slash sisters.
If it is one thing that I really love, it is shopping for jewelry. If I'm buying jewelry for myself or if I'm buying jewelry as a gift for somebody else, I really enjoy the process. But sometimes it can be
It can be a bit overwhelming. You don't know the cut, the style, and buying jewelry is a very serious purchase. That's why I love shopping with BlueNile.com. Blue Nile offers thousands of independently graded diamonds and fine jewelry at prices significantly lower than retail.
So whether you like a classic bracelet or need a new earring to make your outfit pop, you should try BlueNile.com. And if you have any questions about anything that they have on their website, Blue Nile's jewelry experts are on hand 24-7. They're available via phone and via chat. So if you have technical questions about the jewelry, if you're trying to figure out something within your budget, you can know that somebody is on your side to answer everything, making the process easy and enjoyable.
So experience the ease and convenience of shopping Blue Nile, the original online jeweler. Go to BlueNile.com today. That's BlueNile.com. Now that I'm a real adult, I've been really thinking about getting myself together financially. I have subscribed myself to a lot of things, started subscriptions on a free trial, and then I just started paying for things that I haven't been using. I found myself paying for subscriptions sometimes twice.
And I didn't know any of this until I downloaded Rocket Money. Rocket Money is a personal finance app that helps find and cancel unwanted subscriptions. It monitors your spending and helps lower your bills so that you can grow your savings. I love Rocket Money because I can see all my subscriptions in one place. And if I see something that I don't want to see, I can get Rocket Money to help me cancel it with just a few clicks.
Rocket Money has over 5 million users and has saved members a total of $500 million in canceled subscriptions. That's up to $740 per year when using all of the app's features. Stop wasting your money on things you don't use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions by going to rocketmoney.com slash sistas. That's rocketmoney.com slash S-I-S-T-A-S, rocketmoney.com.
rocketmoney.com slash sisters. A lesser charge, but still justice for these girls.
But does double jeopardy come into play now that they've been charged once? No. But they didn't go to trial? No, because they haven't been tried for that crime. And I think that's a lot of times why they'd be like, I'm not going to touch it. At this point, I know that I cannot win it. So there's no point in me wasting my one chance on a case that I know I'm going to lose. No, I'm not going to win. So even though the criminal charges were dropped, Dr. Dodd still had to deal with those civil suits from the family. It's almost five years after the loss of these two women. Mm-hmm.
And finally, Audrey's, finally, Audrey Jackson, who is April Jackson's sister, her and her family are awarded $60 million. That's a lot of money. Now, at first, I thought she wasn't going to see this money because, you know, Nija has already claimed bankruptcy and all that stuff.
But it's being paid out by the insurance provider. So she's going to get that money. It was supposed to in 2019, the same lawyers that represented April's family were supposed to represent Erica's family. Now, it took five years for that case to get through. So maybe it's still in the work and even more slowed with Corona. Right. But she better get that same $60 million. You know, the interesting thing about that case is when they went to court, when the
when the Jackson family went to court, Dr. Dodds and her team did not show up at all, which is probably why they got Suzy Southside. This bitch can't even come here and show her face and speak about what she did. Give him everything. Right. As of now, that's the end of Dr. Dodds' crazy-ass journey through this medical world. I don't quite know what she's doing now, probably getting ready to avoid this next case, but it kind of leaves us questioning, like,
How did we get here in the first place? How did this woman who seems so qualified turn out to be so completely unqualified? Nobody's checking it. People are complaining. Nobody's following up on it. And these cosmetic surgeries, people are not always thinking of them as like...
Surgeries. Surgeries. Because it doesn't always just include a tummy tuck or liposuction. Sometimes it can be as simple as getting some Botox in your face and somebody can botch that. And you think that, oh, it's fine. And you hear about Botox parties or like once at this really fancy like white people med spa. It was like mommy and daughter day. Come get a Panera bread and some Botox. Like everything.
This is a big money-making industry. And it seems like just anybody can get into this game and not be a specialist in cosmetic surgeries. Only 22 states require licenses or accreditation to perform surgery. And Georgia's not one of them.
And they're not. And then two additional states only require it for certain procedures. The AJC, which is our Atlanta Journal-Constitution, stated that in Georgia, there are virtually no limits on who can do cosmetic surgery, where they can do it, and how they advertise it. A doctor in any specialty can take a course on liposuction and then attract patients to his place with cheap prices and perform surgery on you. A dentist can give you liposuction. A chiropractor...
give you liposuction. And it's legal. There needs to be more regulations and it sucks that women are going to these places because you're trying to fulfill this standard of beauty and then you go and you want to find a place that's safe. You're supposed to be finding good doctors. You put your trust of your body in these medical professionals hands and you walk away literally scarred or your family is scarred and it's completely disgusting. It
is. You know, like, on TV, it's always the running joke, like, well, you're not a real doctor. Like, if some guy's like a foot doctor, and they be like, yeah, but that's not a real doctor, you're a foot doctor. Shit. Have you seen these, like, TikToks of fucked up feet? Or that TLC show, My Feet Really Hurt? TLC has a show about every fucking thing. Yeah, they do. As if
That's not bad enough. Georgia has a loophole for the things that they do require. So licensed medical practices have to undergo certain inspections. They have requirements for their staff, procedures, equipment, and policies that you have to uphold.
If you're not licensed, you do not have to abide by these rules. Not that you can't do it. You just don't have to play by these rules. So it seems like, oh, if that's too much work, let me just be a private practice and do it on my fucking own. And no, no. I understand wanting a private practice as a doctor, but like there still has to be standards that you must live up to to ensure the safety of everybody walking through your doors. Like, I don't understand.
It's such a problem that, well, they passed a law saying that, like, okay, only these rigorous accreditation folks are who we're going to count as, like, really being accredited and really certifies you as a doctor. And the doctors got mad. They was like, my place that I went to is not on this list, and I'm still a real doctor, and you're messing up my money because people are not looking at me as a real doctor. So Georgia repealed the law. I was like, okay, you win. But, like, if a school or...
a study loses accreditation. That happens to colleges all the time. And you know what you have to do? You have to work fucking harder and get your shit together. Right. Oh, Southern States and the USA. It sucks to be an American. It just really is heartbreaking to know that this woman is just walking out on the streets. No, she can't practice medicine, but like two lives were taken. And I've heard of like doctors that complete an honest accidents of losing a patient on the table.
sometimes they're so torn up about it that they just can't even practice anymore because that's how deeply they feel sorry for something horrible happening by their hand. And Deidre didn't give a fuck. It's like, Deidre was like, look. And it really seems like, okay,
So, we kind of did a deep dive through her reviews before going through this. Oh, let's get into them. Okay. So, y'all, she was up on Groupon, and we were looking. First of all, she was selling shit extremely discounted. Like, she had, like, a laser hair treatment package, and it was, like, regular price, $5.49. Groupon price, $76. That's a big-ass fucking difference. That's a big discount to the point where, like, I... Listen, I...
I love Groupon. I am like the Tiffany Haddish of Groupon, you know? But, like, I'm not doing any medical things. The most that you're going to do with my face is wax my eyebrows and my upper lip. Like, that's it. That's it. I might do, like...
No. No. Listen. I know some black girls that can do that and they're licensed and they got their own private practice with their license hanging on the wall. We good. They're all over Instagram. I don't need to find Groupon for that. But like she also had Botox on Groupon and she was selling it like $20, $40, $60. And basically, no, the regular price that you would pay for $20, she was giving you $60 for those. Like that's how big the discount was.
When you look at the reviews, of course, those are ones that say, oh, she's great. There were a significant amount of people who said, I felt rushed and discriminated against because I...
I had a Groupon. One girl was even told, because you have a Groupon, you're only allowed 10 minutes. And I was talking to a friend who does Botox. 10 minutes for Botox is not a lot of time. That's not, that is a consultation. Yeah, that's what she said. It's a consultation. How is that even enough time for them to put the Botox shit in the needle and tap it on the side? Because she said, what you do when you go to Botox,
Botox is like they come in and you have to make all these faces and scrunch up your face and you have to tell them what you want. Right. And she says she only gets like six units, but most people get like 20 if they're doing like their forehead and older people who like really want to work on some shit. Yeah, exactly.
I asked, how long does it usually take you? 20 minutes for her six. So these are people coming in saying they're getting 20 and 40 units and you're telling them you're giving them 10 minutes because they have a Groupon. And she said in one of the reviews, she was like, I got to hurry up and do you and my Groupon because I got three others, three more out there. So you're rushing through these people and you're not even giving them the time of day. Why? Because you put a coupon up and you don't want to honor it?
or it right some of them didn't want to put a discount code up bitch then didn't don't put a fucking discount code up one of the reviews said I never even met the doctor the nurse practitioner did everything is that legal
I guess so. I mean, I guess nurses give shots, but like not to see a doctor? It just seems like you either got great care or terrible care when you were in the hands of her. People either was like, she changed my life or she changed my fucking life. But because that decline happened so fast, I'm like, was there, were there mental health issues that were happening?
Because of that break. She had her practice for like 15 years. No, that decline in six months of her being like amazing to her being a killer. What was happening to her mentally was that she was a workaholic. So was that hurting her in the long run? Did she actually honestly need a break or to take care of home or whatever the hell was going on?
at home because you know when shit happens in your life like it takes over especially when it seems dramatic it seems like your world's gonna end you know therapy's a real thing and I know she got access to finding them I know she got insurance or had insurance at the time you know a therapist who you can just go through and break some shit down with there's no excuse for this sis and now you're out living your life I don't know what you're doing
You're definitely not practicing medicine. You're probably, I don't know. She about to go to the next country that'll take her. She done tried to scoot off to the Virgin Islands. She gonna be down somewhere. Our international listeners, don't let her ass in. Listen, she gonna be down there in Columbia or something doing this shit. And I just... So friend, I guess this brings us to... Well, I'm not black. I'm OG. This is the segment where I ain't do it, but if I did, this is how I would do it. I think her ass needed to take a break. Mm.
Listen, if I did it, I would be playing Operation from Hasbro on the floor in the living room with my sisters. I'm going to let y'all have y'all body parts. I'm going to keep my ass in the house. Right. I can't even cut in a straight line. There's absolutely no way I could do this. You could try. It's illegal. I could just go and make up a resume. I'm pretty good with Microsoft Word. Listen, um,
But if I think if I would have done this, I would have definitely gone to a country that spoke a completely. I would definitely go to a country that was further south. You are way too close to home at the Virgin Islands, girl. We were going to find you quick fast. Aren't they territory? Yeah, we were definitely going to find you in the Virgin Islands, girl. So like you should have gone a little bit further away. The thing about it is she can go to any impoverished place and they'll take her.
They won't question shit. Even here in America. And that's why you see these girls in the hotel thing because they can afford it and everybody is just trying to look like somebody and get that little piece of self-esteem. And people will do a lot to feel good about themselves. You know what I'm saying? Right.
And I feel like when it costs you your life, we're always like, oh, the vanity cost you your life. But like, I dye my hair because I think I'm cuter as a blonde. We do things to make ourselves look good and feel better. Right. It's not always for somebody else. Sometimes it's really for ourselves. And I feel like these women probably thought, oh, I'm going to a black woman. I'm doing everything right.
And even Erica, she was getting her implants removed. Right. Well, she didn't get locked up, so we can't do parole or not parole, but... She basically paid for nothing, because even the money didn't come out of her hands. Nope. She got off scot-free.
Wow, we did it. We are back for another episode after a crazy weekend of the podcast kind of blowing up. So welcome back, everyone. I hope you enjoyed this episode and you stick around even longer. So we also got some new ratings. So, you know, if you'd like to shout out, shout out to Tippy1799, which sounds like an amazing name, who says, I truly don't even like podcasting.
crime podcast but I'm definitely binging this podcast love this which like thank you thank you so much we appreciate it we also have shut it scut who said great I love the discussion at the end especially on the episode with the twins great work ladies thanks appreciate you so much
And if you want to leave a review for Sisters Who Kill, you can find us on Apple Podcasts and leave a review. Make sure that you follow us on all social media. If you want to keep up with us, you can follow us on Instagram at Sisters Who Kill Pod. You can follow us on TikTok at Sisters Who Kill Podcast. You can email us at Sisters Who Kill Podcast at gmail.com. Like us on Facebook and join the Facebook discussion group. As always, thank you to Bo King for our opening music. Friend, do you have anything else? Nope. All right.
Bye.