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Decoder Ring | The White Noise Boom

2025/7/2
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Elon Ullendorf: 作为新手父母,我最初使用白噪音是为了解决哄孩子睡觉的难题。然而,我很快发现Spotify上的白噪音音轨种类繁多且同质化严重,这让我感到既惊讶又有些愤世嫉俗。为了更好地安抚孩子,我甚至尝试自己制作白噪音,将嘘声、心跳声和白噪音混合在一起。但随着时间的推移,我对白噪音的看法发生了改变,现在有时也会使用纯粹的白噪音。 Stéphane Pigeon: 作为一名声音工程师,我认为噪音也可以很美妙。我热爱声音本身,并致力于创造出与众不同的噪音。我开发的MyNoise网站提供了各种可定制的音景,用户可以根据自己的需求调整频率。虽然我个人并不喜欢听白噪音,但我很高兴能够通过创作噪音来谋生。 Brandon Reed: 我最初制作白噪音是为了帮助我的新生儿子入睡。我将自己制作的棕色噪音上传到Spotify后,意外地获得了大量听众。这让我意识到白噪音市场的潜力,并开始认真对待这件事。我现在已经辞去了在迪士尼的工作,全职经营我的公司Dwellspring。我相信白噪音市场还远未饱和,因为每个人都需要睡眠和放松。 Mack Haygood: 人们控制周围声音的愿望由来已久。然而,我们越是试图管理周围的声音,就越是对声音变得敏感。我们应该警惕过度依赖白噪音,因为它可能会让我们错过生活中其他美好的声音。就像古希腊神话中的俄耳甫斯一样,我们应该在必要时使用声音来对抗声音,而不是一直沉浸在自己选择的声音中。

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The episode starts with a personal anecdote about using white noise to soothe a baby, which leads to a discussion about the surprising popularity and profitability of white noise. The global white noise market is valued at \$1.3 billion, and Spotify users alone listen to three million hours daily.
  • Global white noise market valued at $1.3 billion
  • Spotify users listen to 3 million hours of white noise daily
  • White noise used for sleep, concentration, and masking unwanted sounds

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White noise has a very precise technical definition, but people use the term loosely, to describe all sorts of washes of sound—synthetic hums, or natural sounds like a rainstorm or crashing waves—that can be used to mask other sounds. Twenty years ago, if you’d told someone white noise was a regular part of your life, they would have found that unusual. Nowadays, it’s likely they use it themselves or know someone who does. The global white noise business is valued at $1.3 billion; TikTok is full of people trumpeting its powers; and Spotify users alone listen to three million hours of it daily. Far more of these sounds already exist than any one person could need—or use. And yet, more keep coming. 

Looking out at this uncanny ocean of seemingly indistinguishable noises, we wanted to see if it was possible to put a human face on it; to understand why there is so much of it, and what motivates the people trying to soothe our desperate ears with sounds you're not really supposed to hear.

In this episode, you’ll hear from Elan Ullendorff,) who writes the illuminating Substack Escape the Algorithm)*; *Stéphane Pigeon), founder of myNoise); Brandon Reed, who runs Dwellspring); and Mack Haygood), author of Hush: Media and Sonic Self-Control) and host of the podcast Phantom Power).

We’d also like to thank Dan Berlau, Sarah Anderson, and Ashley Carman. 

This episode was written by Katie Shepherd, Evan Chung, and Willa Paskin. It was produced by Katie Shepherd. We produce Decoder Ring with Max Freedman, and Evan is also our supervising producer. Merritt Jacob is Senior Technical Director.

If you have any cultural mysteries you want us to decode, please email us at [email protected]), or leave a message on our hotline at 347-460-7281.

Sources for This Episode

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Blum, Dani. “Can Brown Noise Turn Off Your Brain?)” New York Times, Sep. 23, 2022.

Carman, Ashley. “Spotify Looked to Ban White Noise Podcasts to Become More Profitable,)” Bloomberg, Aug. 17, 2023. 

Carman, Ashley. “Spotify to Cut Back Promotional Spending on White Noise Podcasts),” Bloomberg, Sep. 1, 2023.

Hagood, Mack. Hush: Media and Sonic Self-Control), Duke University Press, 2019.

Pickens, Thomas A., Sara P. Khan, and Daniel J. Berlau. “White noise as a possible therapeutic option for children with ADHD),” Complementary Therapies in Medicine, Feb. 2019.

Riva, Michele Augusto, Vincenzo Cimino, and Stefano Sanchirico. “Gian Lorenzo Bernini’s 17th century white noise machine),” The Lancet Neurology, Oct. 2017.

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