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Reddit用户:一位咖啡店的常客声称咖啡制作错误会导致她癫痫发作,并以此为由反复要求重做咖啡,甚至还跟踪服务员并试图让其男友丢掉工作。她还制作了一个员工评分表,记录哪些员工做对了她的咖啡。 Shane, Chance, Amanda:顾客的行为非常极端,远超咖啡制作问题本身。他们认为顾客的行为可能源于寻求关注或掌控感,而不是真正的健康问题。他们建议咖啡店停止为这位顾客服务。 Reddit用户评论:患有癫痫症的人通常会避免可能引发发作的食物和饮料,这位顾客的行为不合理。 Chance, Amanda:服务员有时会故意敷衍顾客,因为顾客的问题往往是主观的。 Shane, Amanda:如果顾客有严重的健康问题,应该避免可能引发问题的食物和饮料,而不是责怪服务员。

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- We're back with more Reddit stories. I'm Shane and my guests today are Chance and Amanda. - Hi. - Greetings. - There's a reason you both are here today and it's because the theme is service industry and I believe you both have--

- Yeah, you both have experience. - We're on a roller coaster, yay! Whoa! - You both worked in the service industry. - Since I was like 14. - Same, yeah. We both had so many different places that we've worked at. - We've worked at so many different restaurants. - And was it fun?

I would say yes. Some places, yes. Some places were super fun. Like you were only there for the people. Yes. The money wasn't even that good. Yes. Okay. I was always about money first. I was always about money. No, not me. I was always about people, vibes first. Yeah. And that's why you work here. And that's why I work here. True. But I'm sure you have tons of stories of insane customers, insane experiences. Yeah.

And uh, we're about to hear a bunch from some other people. Oh, I can't wait. Anonymously on the internet.

So let's hop into it. - So is it about restaurants, restaurants and bars? - It's probably a lot. It's service industry in general. And in general, so there might be, and it might be from different perspectives. Fun. Might be from the perspective of a customer, might be from the worker. - Oh, a customer. - Oh, I love that. But I don't trust anything, anything the customer says. - Never. - The customer is never right. - They are almost never right.

Like never like very few and far between okay Well, I think this first one has to do with a customer great. So let's see This comes from legal advice regular customer keeps telling us that her latte causes seizures Okay, stop drinking the coffee One seizure is enough must be a really good latte. Okay. Okay. Let's let's see what's going on here. Um

We have a regular customer at our coffee shop that has autoimmune epilepsy. They claim that when their drink is made wrong, after we correctly remake it 15 times, they experience seizures. I don't want to be liable for them ordering something that causes them to have these seizures. My coworker and I highly doubt that food and beverages cause seizures, but they order a tiny fraction of an amount of espresso in their latte. It is a half-caffeinated beverage, but every drink made correctly is sent back because it tastes burnt.

So we decided on giving them half of a half of a caffeinated shot. A quarter. Yeah, essentially. We feel as if they're trying to plot against us because they have a spreadsheet of workers who make their drink right. Sorry if this was put under the wrong thread. We all genuinely feel like they want to sue us for giving them seizures.

Edit. I'd also like to point out that this customer is certainly a problem. They would stalk a barista from a different location and try to convince said barista to not move in with her boyfriend before marriage. The customer ended up finding out where the boyfriend worked and tried to get him fired from his job. Now this customer is at our establishment after getting banned from their previous location. People in our region that have worked in our company for 10 plus years say that this customer has always been a problem.

As a supervisor, I had spent a whole hour working on their drink. 15 plus drinks later, no solution. They ended up just taking the last drink because they realized it was a waste of their time. Next day, they asked for five remakes of their drink. I got fed up and told them that I'll call them an ambulance if they get another remake. That or I can issue you a refund because we are not going to come to a solution if we keep going. They agreed to a refund

and have now consecutively asked for refunds these past two or so months.

So, quick note about this. We don't know this person's medical history, nor do we know where this story is based. And, you know, laws, whenever it comes to legal advice, laws depend on where you live. Usually in legal advice posts, they state what state they're in because that affects the advice that people give. We're not here to give legal advice because we're not, you know, we don't know. Lawyers. Yeah. But this just in general is...

- Sounds brutal. - Stop serving them. - I know. - Sounds like the last place did. - What are you supposed to do about that? Because it is weird that they stalked a person. Like that's like, okay, but also too burnt. - That's the beans. - Yes, no, I know, but like, how does that,

How did that correlate to you having a seizure? Does that mean like too burnt means too much espresso for this person? This person needs to get a life. Yeah, I don't know what's going on there. Yeah, I mean, this sounds like extreme behavior. The stalking stuff is like... It's way too much. Dude, oh my God. Like, who cares about the remaking of the drink at that point?

- We're talking about something else here. - Also the spreadsheet. - The spreadsheet was the biggest red flag, honestly. Forget the stalking, the spreadsheet. - Spreadsheet. - This person sounds, frankly, lonely. And they're just obsessed and this is their spot and this is the most human interaction they have. - To be honest, I feel like that's exactly what I think it is. I think that they're lonely and this is how they wanna have interaction. When I worked at Dunkin' Donuts back in the day, there was a woman who had so much sunscreen on her face

So much sunscreen on her face and she would be there my entire shift like start to finish and she would always come up and complain about her coffee and she was like oh At Dunkin Donuts at Dunkin Donuts She would say that I expect craft coffee. She would say that it was burnt and I was like 15 years old So I was like, oh I want to make this woman happy She would never ever tip but she was always there every shift and finally my manager was like

we can't keep remaking her coffee. She's just here every day. First in, last out. - You gotta set healthy boundaries. - Yeah. - Yeah, I mean-- - She just needed a friend. - As I said, the medical aspect, we don't know. We don't know these people. But I do think for a lot of people who ask to have drinks remade very consistently, I can't help but think it's a little bit of a high they get. - Yeah. - From a little bit of power. - It's the pickles guy from SpongeBob.

Wow, who's that? There's no pickles on my Yuck comments here not a lawyer, but I have epilepsy It makes absolutely no sense why someone would risk a seizure over a coffee drink not being prepared properly taste and smell alone is no indicator if a food or drink will trigger a seizure if the Customer seizures are triggered so easily they should take proper precautions

Someone responded to that saying, 100%. I also have epilepsy and avoid anything that can trigger me like the plague. The only way she could tell if the drink is wrong is by tasting it, which could cause a seizure. There's no way I'd risk that. And I'd say most people with epilepsy would have similar sentiments. Someone else said, sometimes you have to fire the customer.

Someone said three me someone said three remakes you get three after the third one It's I'm terribly sorry, but we're unable to accommodate you and here's a refund. Oh, please leave 15 plus lattes is them Just straight up fucking with you. What a terrible tool three three No, I know what you get. I you get the first one you get the remake. Nope This is this is what we've given you. This is the try again. We're not trying three times. Sorry someone

Same also my favorite thing to do is when you have the person that always asked for a remake You know what I started doing after a while. I'd be like oh my god. You're so right I'll remake it and I go in the corner Yep, and I shake it and I give it right back, and I'm like here you go, and they're like so much better Yeah, I've done that I've done that I pull that bullshit too. Well. It's true. It's because they just get a fucking it's in their fucking head. Oh

15 sips you're they're done with your coffee 15 sips yeah of 15 lattes they've drank so much coffee just now epilepsy i'm sorry but i agree with these comments of if you have a very serious medical condition that could be triggered by a coffee

Stop drinking coffee. - I wouldn't trust a barista. A barista's not a doctor. - And that's really scary to have epilepsy because there's so many things that can trigger it, especially like movies nowadays with like the flashing. But I feel like if maybe just like

- Yeah, don't. - Yes. - Just don't. - Yeah, and the responsibility of movies and stuff is to let you know, hey, there's stuff in this. But you are going to a coffee shop, you know there's caffeine in it. They're telling you the amount that they're giving you. And it's just, obviously this person, like I said, remove the medical stuff, they're a stalker. So I don't really have much empathy for them. - That's so the industry though. You meet people that you're like, how are you walking this planet?

planet. Yes. That's what happens when you work in the restaurant industry. 100%. You're like, how are you on this planet? And also, there's so many times with groups of people where I'm like, you can't figure out how to pay this check together. Like, you are grown-ass adults. Yes. Oh, my God. It is. You have never gone to a restaurant together. Maybe you haven't. But, like, we are in 2023. Yes. You can split it. Plan mode.

- Venmo, like, come on now. - Yep. - How are you guys operating in real life? - Yep. - Because that don't make no sense. - Yes. - I love this next one. - Okay. - Okay, this one's awesome. We might have a legend based on the title.

but I might be very wrong. Am I the asshole because I brought a bottle of ranch into a restaurant? Absolutely not. That's a legend. You're right. We'll see. We will see. Maybe we're gonna eat our words here. How big is the bottle? Yeah. I've got the ranch! Last night I went to dinner with Michael.

It was our third date and he took me to one of his favorite restaurants. It was a hole in the wall Polish/Hungarian place. We ordered our food and he ordered a sampler plate so I could try different things. There are very few things I don't eat with ranch. I just like it and it helps make some things easier to eat, so I always have it with my meals. When we get our food, I ask for some ranch. The waiter said they didn't have any and offered to bring out some kind of sour cream and dill sauces.

I tried them and they just weren't the same. I told Michael I'd be right back, took my wallet and left the restaurant. I had seen a convenience store close by when we arrived, so I went there, bought a bottle of ranch and came back. Michael looked shocked but didn't say anything and ate his food. The food was great and we got some conversation going. When the waiter came over and said outside food wasn't allowed, I said dressing isn't outside food and they didn't have what I needed to enjoy my meal.

I didn't want to ruin the evening, so I took it out to my car and returned. When we finished and left, Michael thanked me for coming out with him, but said it was really off-putting that I had to leave and go buy a bottle of dressing instead of just going one meal without it.

I told him I wouldn't have had to do that if they had ranch or any dressings like a normal restaurant. He didn't walk me to my car or anything and just left. I went home and told my roommate about my date and his attitude and she asked me if I was being serious. She thinks I had bad etiquette and embarrassed Michael to the point that he was probably going to stop talking to me. I don't think what I did was really all that bad. It was a condiment, not an entire meal from someplace. Was I wrong for what I did?

I redact the legend. Definitely not a legend. Dude, you are judging. I thought this was going to be like Olive Garden. It was going to be like, I'm sorry, man. I know you have ranch, but you don't have enough. Yeah, that's funny. I need so much ranch. You are judging a cultural, like you are judging. Yeah, already it's not like a chain restaurant or anything. It sounds like a mom and pop something. Polish-Hungarian place with dill and sour cream, which is exactly like. Sounds delicious. Sounds amazing. It sounds really good. The dill sauce. Then you should have, you should have.

I mean, I don't know if she clearly probably just didn't know what type of food this was gonna be like she thought I don't know this just sounds like someone who very American centric like Yeah, no, I probably has only been to chain restaurants. This is finally like the thing is it's great It's good on her to like try other things try new things but I

Well, also, it's not even a matter of like, are you the asshole? It's more like that's just a really dumb thing to do on clearly like an early date. Who is Michael, by the way? I love that he's just consistently Michael. This person didn't start off strong by just being like, last night I went to dinner with Michael. It's like, what? The one that got away. Yeah. I guess if you're like telling a story like, last night I went to dinner with Seth.

Seth, what you need to know about Seth? We didn't get any of that. No, it was just sort of saying. Zero context. Don't know their age. Don't know what's going on here. Horrible thing to do on a date. Also, I think it's a little bit weird that Michael didn't say anything to her coming back with Ranch. Yeah, we don't know. We don't know. I think this person would leave that shit out.

But we don't know but also I don't know if someone did that if I'm the type that if I was on a date And I and I was like hey, I love this restaurant. I love this place is really awesome It's this hole in the wall and you're there and then she's like you have ranch and they're like no and she's like I'll be right back and leaves and comes back with a bottle of ranch that she just bought I'd be like oh and I in my head. I'd be like I'm about to never talk to you again. Yep. Oh, I'll sit here for this meal and

- I'll also point out the fact that that was crazy what you did in a very jokey, funny way. I'll be like, "You really like ranch." I'm like, "I hope you like me as well." - 'Cause it's one thing to be like, "I really have a hard time with maybe the texture of a said food or something." But to be like, "I can't eat something without ranch," is so intense. - I guess I'm like,

- Because ranch doesn't even have that much flavor. - No it doesn't. I feel like I need to solve it. I feel like I would have to be like, really? You really went out and got ranch?

I'm so embarrassed. I would have been so embarrassed. - Yeah. Oh, 100%. - Yeah. I'd say it's also for me, what it often is, is not necessarily the action, but how you back up that action and saying like normal restaurants and like fighting back to the waiter and like when the waiter's like no outside food and there's like, it's just, it's a condiment. I'm like, that's almost more the red flag to me than going and getting the ranch. And it's one of those things that you need to be really upfront if it's like, you cannot eat a food without ranch. You need to be like,

Oh, you want to go out to eat? Do they have ranch? I have this thing where I need to have ranch with every meal. Say that. Not that this takes away from it.

but it's gotta be in their head because again, ranch doesn't have that much flavor. So what is it actually doing? It's a fat, it's a milky fat, right? And so it's expanding your taste buds, letting you taste more so you can palate more. So the sour cream is gonna do it, it's just got that tang. - Exactly. - But then that dill sauce, it's just like, dill sauce in my head sounds like it's gonna be a ranch with instead of the oregano with those herbs,

It's gonna be dill instead of those, it's not gonna be that much different. - Did she even try it? - She didn't even try it. - I doubt she did. - That's the thing. - No fucking way she tried it. - Would this be a, this would be a deal breaker for all of us, right? - No. - It would be, it wouldn't? See, it's a deal breaker for me because I love food. - I don't know.

The ranch on anything I can definitely handle. The ranch on anything I can handle. Being rude consistently, like if it was a consistent rudeness to a service industry worker, that is a deal breaker for me. So it depends because this feels like a time. And we're at a mom and pop restaurant. So like in my head, I'm like, if you need that ranch with this meal, we can box our meals up and go to a place that we can put ranch on it that's not disrespectful to the people that just cooked our meal. Exactly. It's the disrespect.

And also the server must have been upset for them to say anything because as a server I've seen some crazy shit where people bring in crazy shit and usually I'm like I'm gonna just let this one go but if it upsets me enough I'll say something so the server must have been like I wouldn't have said anything if they brought in a bottle of wine I would have been like you went to the store and got ranch you need help and

First of all they second all that be eat your eat your meal They they have they they established enough information when they said like they didn't have any dressings like a normal restaurant I'm like all right. Yeah, that's all I needed to hear wait. Is it a deal breaker? Yeah?

Yeah. It's a deal breaker. Of course. It's a deal breaker not because I'd be like, you have to have ranch? You're fucking weird. It'd be that I would say, and I would probably say this, I'd be like, hey, I love food. I love trying new foods. I love, there's not a genre of food that I've tried that I haven't been interested by or like, and I like to explore new things. And if you can't do that, then we can't. Oh, that is true. There's so many experiences that we're limited by now.

Go find someone else who also will just just likes basic. You're right. I think it is a deal-breaker You're right on like the first couple dates, but if you are together for a while and they have this thing Well, we're not gonna get we're not gonna get to that. You're right. My yeah It's a deal breaker for me too because my stomach in my mouth is my way to my heart Like there is no way that we're not gonna try all these different foods Like you're not gonna be able to travel with me. No, Polish-Hungarian not even that close

No. Different from what we typically eat at chain restaurants. Dude, you're ordering, I bet you they have schnitzel or bratwurst. Come on. And if I ever want to go to fucking, I don't know, like Thailand, we're not getting ranch. No.

- Oh no. - We're not getting ranch. - You are not getting ranch. - You are so limited. - So limited, like you're not, and what are we gonna eat the whole time? You're gonna bring ranch in your suitcase? - You actually, that's another good point, you can't travel. - Exactly. - Yeah. - So true. - Some comments here. Back in the day, I went out on some bad dates, but expecting an Eastern European style restaurant to have ranch dressing and nipping out to buy some would go down in the bad date hall of fame.

Someone else said yeah, you're the asshole. Did you even try to enjoy the food without the ranch? This is so gross to me Why don't you just eat ranch since it seems that it's all you enjoy. Okay Don't be petty. Yeah at a five-star restaurant. I'll have I'll just have the chicken tendies. Oh P probably And look man

I love some chicken tendies. I was just about to say, at a good restaurant. I love chicken tendies. But also, come on. Yum. And at the very least, look, at the very least, just communicate this. Communicate this right off the bat. Don't get to a date and then leave your date. Also, don't leave your date alone. Wait.

Wait to go she didn't tell him that she was going to get the ring she maybe did but I don't even like that anyways Yeah, it's weird. It's that's bad etiquette Let's just like stubbornness to not even try what they have is not really immersing yourself into the restaurant Yeah, so that's a little bit disrespectful and it's like bringing you there very different if you're like hey, I'm limited by my allergies I'm limited by this. Yeah, sure whatever this is a very clear choice But anyways, yeah

Moving on Wow. Yeah fired up. I'm fired up, too Okay could have been a legend though like could have been ringing a bottle of ranch into a restaurant like Buffalo Wild Wings at face value We ran out sorry. No Buffalo Wild Wings you bring you're like I have to bring my own hot sauce cuz your shit doesn't get hot enough Oh Cool, that would yeah I'd be like I want to party with that person. Yeah, cuz the mango habanero is spicy I can only handle so much All right next story

This was on Am I the Asshole and reposted to Am I the Devil, so buckle up. Am I the Asshole for telling my fiance that he embarrassed me when he started singing the happy birthday song to his five-year-old son at the restaurant? Okay.

I, a 30 year old woman, have been with my fiance, Ned, who's 36 for a year and a half. - Is it in quotes? - What? - It's in quotes? - Yeah, it's a fake name. - Oh, okay, great, great. - Right, right, right. - Thank God. - All the names in all these stories are always not real.

They've been dating for a year and a half. He has a five-year-old son with his ex-girlfriend. They don't have a custody arrangement, but he has him most of the week because the mom is currently sick. His son is lovely, but I noticed that Ned takes him everywhere he goes, including places that aren't child-friendly. We have issues with that, but we're working on it. His son's fifth birthday was days ago, and Ned took us out to a restaurant to celebrate. The place was nice, but looked a bit unfitting for the occasion because it was a somewhat expensive place.

Anyways, we ordered food and when we got the birthday cake, which was a surprise to me because I thought we were going to celebrate at home where we could be free to sing and play however we wanted, I still had no issue with that until Ned started singing the happy birthday song to his son. I was so stunned I almost dropped my plate. He was singing it at the top of his lungs, not even looking around or paying attention to how many people were staring at us awkwardly.

I felt so embarrassed I kept whispering for him to stop, but he ignored me. Of course my future stepson was hyped and a little too active, which isn't good when we're in a public place. I expected the staff, the manager, anyone to get involved and stop him, but no one did. In fact, some woman came up to us and offered to help him take a video recording. I wasn't in it at all. I froze in my seat looking stunned and a little angry.

He looked at me later asking what was wrong. I didn't say anything except thanks for finally noticing. He didn't understand what I meant and I didn't explain until we were in the car. I flat out told him that he embarrassed me the second he started singing in the restaurant. He looked shocked saying he didn't get why I would be embarrassed by him celebrating his son's birthday and cheering him up. I told him we could have done this at home where we would be more comfortable and free. He took it as me being ashamed of him and his son.

But I denied it and said that it just felt awkward and embarrassing to me at the restaurant, and I've never been in this situation. He said that his son's mom is sick, that he's trying to do all he can to cheer him up, that all families do that, and that no one had an issue with it except for me. Then when I tried to explain, he got mad and said he no longer felt like talking.

Whoa, this is so much. She just doesn't get, there's unspoken rules of social etiquette.

And I feel like the happy birthday song is allowed almost anywhere. Anywhere. It really does. Almost anywhere, anytime. The son's mother is sick with I don't know what. Besides that, I have never. She is sick. I have never heard someone singing happy birthday and I've been like, how dare they? What do they think they are doing? You guys need to quiet down. And here's the thing.

I feel like everyone universally kind of dreads the happy birthday song, but I also agree with what you're saying. It's also like, yeah, it's the- It is? And it's a five-year-old's birthday. You gotta do it! Like, he's a cute little kid at probably a really nice restaurant. Everyone's like, oh, I have fucking baby fever now. I love how she's like, she's like, no one said anything. Like, in fact, a lady came up and offered to take a video. It's like, yeah, because they clearly didn't have a problem with it. It sounds like a sketch where she's probably like, stop, stop. She's like, happy birthday. And the son's like-

- Yay, 'cause mommy's sick. - And everyone around is singing too and she's like, "They're joining in 'cause they're embarrassed." - I'm thinking of the internal monologue where it's like everything goes dark behind her. She's like, "No, not again."

This can't be. She sounds extremely controlling because it's like the fact where she's like, why didn't he do it at home where we can be free? It's like, you mean where you can be free? And maybe this is how she's grown up. Sure. They were just like, we never sing in public. We never sing the happy birthday. We do it, we wait till we get home and that's where we celebrate. And you have to acknowledge that that's you. Sure. And your upbringing. You're projecting it on other people. And that's fine. I would get it if she's like, don't sing happy birthday to me in a public place.

Yeah, that's all that I would I only respect a little bit more if she's like hey I was embarrassed like I don't like to be put on the spot at that restaurant It's him and his son

let him raise his son the way he wants and celebrate his son's birthday the way he wants. - I also think it's more than that. It sounds to me like she did not realize that she signed up for the son to be in her life all the time. Did you hear it? She was like, and he brings the son around everywhere we go. - Yeah, it's his--

Son. Son. Five years old. Also, you've only been together a year and a half and you're already fianced. Yeah. Which is fine. Fianced. No judgment, but like that's not a lot of time to really like. Establish a connection with him. Him and the son. And the son. And it seems like she hasn't. No. Based on this, only on this, it doesn't appear. Well, there's probably only been one birthday before this. And in fact, if it's a year and a half, there's only been one birthday before this. It's one birthday and he was.

- Yeah, probably at the house singing quietly. - Yeah, and also just for the record, it takes about 10 seconds to sing the birthday song. - So quick. - Correct. - It is very quick. And let's go back to, this is not a restaurant fit for child 'cause it's expensive. Excuse you?

I know. You're right. Children don't deserve expensive food. What? Yes. No. Yes, they do. Yes, they absolutely do. I mean, sometimes they don't. I would say it's totally fine. Some children don't. You're right. It's completely fine. I will say five-year-old me, take me to Chili's.

Absolutely. Just take me to Chili's. But maybe this was Chili's. 22-year-old me, take me to Chili's. Take me to Chili's. Never stop going to Chili's because it's so good. It's so good. I don't care. What's your Chili's order? Yeah, we love to say that. Well, chocolate molten cake always. That's it. You're a chicken Christmas boy. Fajitas. Fajitas.

You do the fajitas? I love. That's crazy. You're out of your mind. Comments here. It's not embarrassing to sing happy birthday to a child. It is, however, super embarrassing to look pissed off at a person singing happy birthday to a child at the same table as you. You're the asshole. Someone else said, you're the asshole. If it...

Whoa, this person was like, "I'm gonna respond!" *laughs*

- Oh. - Holy shit, man. - Happy birthday. - Yeah, the fact that she was trying to whisper to him while he's singing it. - I know. - Crazy. - It's an unwritten rule. You're allowed to do happy birthday. Everyone's allowed to get involved. - Yep. - It's just what it is. - It really does get a pass. - And the fact that it didn't, she was still,

She wasn't disillusioned when the woman came over and was like, I'll take a video of you. Like, it's clearly okay that they were doing that from an outside party. Yeah. She still was like, this is wrong. I almost dropped my plate. Why are you holding your plate up? Why was your plate up in your hands in the first place? You're the weird one. She's like this. I almost dropped my plate. Yeah. Ridiculous. Next story here. Another one that was reposted onto Am I the Devil? Let's see if this person's worse than the...

I love these! I'm getting excited. Am I the asshole for inviting my waitress out on a date? You know how many times that's happened? And you know what? I have gone on dates. Same. From the restaurant. Someone followed me into a service station and asked me out. Oh. That's scary. Well, we went out for like four months. It was really fun, actually. I thought it was cute!

Yeah, but that's nothing. It's you're right. Don't do that Yeah, I've had a couple times I've had a couple times where I left them my number and they left me know their number at the same time Isn't that cute synced up synced up anyways? Sorry we have a lot of stories All right. This is a 46 year old man. Uh my

My wife, who is 43, passed away about two years ago. Since then, I haven't had the courage or the desire to try and date. My kids are all in college, so I try to go out for dinner by myself once a week to get out of the house. When I got to the restaurant, I glanced at the menu. When my waitress showed up, I was immediately struck by how much she looked like my past wife. I ordered my food, and I worked up the nerve when she came back to give it to me to ask her out to dinner. She laughed and said she would think about it and left.

Here's what it is.

She's working. Yeah, it's true. She is employed. She is on the clock She is working. It is her job to be friendly Yep, and joyful. She is working. However, I don't I do think that a

- It's hard, it's hard with different people. - I would say, based on the context he gave us, there was no sign other than just like, you look like my passed away wife. I would say for me, baseline, yeah, someone's working. You're an asshole for doing it, even if it works.

Even if it works out and it's a story where you could be like, yeah I definitely broke what I would say is an etiquette for sure ask them out while they're working And at the very least he you can't be upset by however, you know, rejected. Nope. That's not you're right You're right if I if if if a different waiter if I did this and I decided hey, I'm gonna ask this this person out Which what I mean is I I would need to know that

Would need more than just like I'm getting a vibe. I'd need to be like hey, we're having a full-on conversation You want to know his other faux pas what he didn't wait till the end. I was just gonna say that oh Ask out a waitress while they're serving your table currently it is awkward. It is weird It changes the dynamic if you want to ask them out. I

Leave them your number on a thing. I don't think that that's wrong. No, no, not at all I think leaving the number and even at the end of the meal that we are done our Transaction is finished. We are paid. I have signed also. Yes. You have to wait till the end of the thing Yes, we are working. He asked her out before they were done, which means now she's like, okay How am I gonna get a tip?

If I reject him, this sucks, this is now such a loaded situation. That's so uncomfortable for her. I do not think he was thinking. - That's why she said maybe. - This is also why it sucks too, because I know for myself as a server, I'm a flirt.

I'm gonna flirt to get that tip. And I'm gonna be pretty too to get that tip. And so a lot of people are like, oh, he's flirting with me. I'm like, yeah, I'm flirting with you. It's kind of my whole thing. That's how I'm gonna get... You're working. I'm working. I think leaving the number is the only version of it that I'm like, okay, fine. You leave a number and you're saying, it's like, hey, pressure's off. If I don't receive a call from you, fine. Pressure is off. But I think...

Think that's the only version of it where I'm not like hey you're being a little bit of an asshole But where you're absolutely an asshole and this is across the circumstances is And I mean asshole not in like you're a bad person I just mean like you're you know You might out of pocket ask if you ask someone out while they're working you might make them uncomfortable Yeah, and that makes that make you an asshole. I'm not saying like fuck you, but it's it's

Hey, you have to really be certain. And where you're absolutely an asshole no matter what is if someone rejects you however they do and you push back even the slightest bit, you're 100% asshole. - I think I agree with that. I do think it gets fucking complicated 'cause I do think in like rom-coms, TV shows, like all these things, it's always like, you know, the waitress or the server and like that's how you meet. I don't think it's right to ask out someone while they're working

But I think it gets really complicated. I have a question. What if the rules were flipped? What if it was a girl asking out? And the server is asking the customer out at the end of the meal. But I think, we were talking about the woman and the man, and straight up, I think the issue is

that so many straight dudes are so dangerous out there that they're the ones who fucked it up. Like we can only be mad at them. We can only be mad at them. I mean, we just had a story earlier of someone stalking someone. They make it scary. That's the problem. They make it scary. That's the issue. Sometimes I feel like I want to believe that it's not all scary because I don't want to live my life being scared all the time. So it's like, I'm going to be more open to this. But

But that's just my personal experience. So that's why I think it gets really tricky. That's the thing you have to acknowledge as a man in any situation where you're like, oh, I think this woman's really cute. I want to ask her out. But you have to be like, she doesn't know me. So there is, based on statistics, a high chance that I'm a dangerous person and I mean her heart. You have to consider that. And you know, oh, my intentions are good, though. Yeah, you know that. She doesn't.

And she has reason to believe the exact opposite. And that's why I say you're an asshole based on these things. Because you're now maybe making this person's day harder. I agree. And just write your number down later and then leave. That's the thing. Don't sit there and wait. If they want to text you, they will text you. I can't stand when there's dudes who are creepy as F.

Who are just like saying oh, you're beautiful or oh you look like my dead ex-wife. Yeah, my god It's like okay. Hey chance. Can you take over my fucking entire section? Absolutely. I can't be the thing I've heard and we'll get into these comments is split the tips though

The thing I've heard and I feel like the best thing you can do whenever asking someone out is how do you make them feel like as safe as possible and that they can walk away from this and get away from this super easily. And that's the best. Write your number down and leave. Write your number down and be gone. Be gone. So comments here. You're the asshole. Do not proposition women who cannot leave if they choose. This means any woman who is in a workplace in which you are the customer. It means any place where a woman cannot physically step away from you if they choose.

Someone said very very soft. You're the asshole You shouldn't be discouraged by from getting out and opening your heart to potential partners But I can see how the situation may have been awkward for the waitress. I'm sorry for your loss op Someone said you're the asshole if you want to ask a waitress out leave your number on the receipt Way less awkward and puts her in control without having to feel pressured by your presence if she's interested cool if not big Jerry working the grill will probably text you and fuck with you

I agree with those. Big Jerry. That's what I mean. Especially this guy, I'm like, you didn't have bad intentions, you just went about this badly. But also, did he really like her or did he just look like a dead ex-wife? That's also a little weird thing. That also has some psychic damage right there. If you started dating, if it did work out and you started dating, it's like, yeah, here's a picture of my ex-wife that you look just like. Put on this dress. This might have been the best case scenario. Put on this dress.

Think this was best-case scenario for that guy. How many times do you think you got asked out while you were working a lot? That's how Tim Robbins asked me out. Yeah, but he's sorry, but he literally he was leaving Yeah, and his son was leaving - yeah, that's and that's fair and they wrote there they literally wrote their number down on a receipt and

And left. Yeah. And it was a private party and I didn't feel like it was creepy or anything. But I feel like I got asked out a lot. But the thing is, is like, I don't know. It was when I first moved here and I was single at the time. And I don't know. It wasn't.

Don't know when you work in the restaurant industry for a really long time. You are so used to yeah creeps Yeah, and not the creeps and you can distinguish them in a heartbeat. Yeah, you see them and you're like creep Yeah, not creep 100% And so I was very like open to if I didn't feel creepy vibes and they left their number cool Yeah, there were many times that I got asked out that was creepy and weird and I had to give up my section many times

It just became part of the job. I know that sounds fucking crazy. No, it is part of what I had to set myself up for. And it sucks that it's, it's a reality. It's unfair. It's stupid. It's, it's shitty, but yeah, but you have to adapt because I, I,

I, growing up from Boston, I cannot, I don't wanna be afraid every day, I don't wanna be angry every day. Every time I get beeped up, I don't wanna be pissed. So I, Amanda, needed to adapt. And so I just added it into my schedule. I know that sounds crazy. - No, I mean-- - But I added it into my schedule. I'm like, all right.

Which fucker am I gonna deal with today? And which person is gonna ask me out that maybe I'm... Like, you have... For me, I had to adapt because I wanna be happy and I don't want other people who are fucking creeps to distinguish my day, to like change my whole day. Well, also with the creeps, not just with creeps, but just like assholes in general, you learn to compartmentalize. You're like, I can't let this table affect the rest of my... I'm having a good day and I look good today. I'm not gonna let you...

I've had a person slap my ass while they went to the bathroom. Yes, has it hurt my day? But I'm like, I can't keep letting that shit hurt my day. - What's so weird is that nowhere else, I've worked in restaurants for my whole life, in Tennessee, in Chicago, in LA, and different places in LA, and different places too. And nowhere, never got hit on or assed out anywhere besides when I moved here. I guess there's just more gay people here also.

like it changed everything and then all of a sudden like you're getting your ass pinched while you walk by and all this stuff and I'm like what the fuck but then you get hit on by the people you want to get hit on and you're like okay well now it's kind of weird yeah so you kind of like you're like oh

- Yeah, oh. - Yeah, and so it really confuses other people too because what's happening is your section's really close together and this table, it's this really hot guy that you are flirting with. - Yeah. - And you're doing stuff and you're-- - And you're like, hello. - You're like, okay, so what can I get? You guys want dessert? - The guy's like, come here, little boy. - And then the table next to you is the creeps that hear this and they're like, we want free dessert. I'm like, no, it's not for you! It's for them!

That is a perfect description of compartmentalizing is your section. It's literally creep, creep, cool, fun people, hot. Creep, creep, creep, cool, fun people, hot. And you're just like, ooh. Yeah.

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- They relate to this. - All right, all right, all right. This might be our legend.

Oh, this wallet? Yes! Your Honor, my sister-in-law. In a top hat?

Okay, this 28 year old woman. Her sister-in-law Amy, who's 26, always comes to visit from out of town. She stays with us instead of a hotel and always wants to go to expensive restaurants. She always conveniently forgets her wallet or comes up with some excuse as to why she can't pay her share. She's implied that since I make much more money than her, I should be the one to pay. No, not that my husband should pay, but me specifically.

Ugh, awesome. Oh my god.

- I love it, you don't like it, I love it. - Uh-uh. - As we were leaving, my husband and her went to the car. I pretended I forgot something and went back inside. I found her wallet sitting right on top of her suitcase. I put it in my purse and we went to the restaurant. When we were done eating, I asked for separate bills. She said no, we need one bill because she forgot her wallet again. I reached my purse and said, this wallet?

She was extremely furious. She said that I should not have touched or grabbed her wallet. So am I the asshole for taking her wallet and bringing it to the restaurant? Wait! Edit. Oh. Amy just called me. She saw this post and she yelled at me for bad mouthing her on the internet. Honestly, I don't care. Amy, hopefully reading all these comments is a wake up call for you.

- Whoa! - Whoa, she just made it real awkward. Mad awkward. - She made it real awkward. - I feel bad for her husband. - She said the price of this relationship is right here. - Her husband's just like, can you guys just get along? - Not the asshole, but I--

Would have probably done it differently because it's gonna I would have been like hey I would have had a conversation I would have been like before we left when we're getting in the car if you know yeah be like you have everything keys phone wallet wallet and

Wait, you don't know. Oh you forgot your wallet here. Let's go probably would have been like yeah Well, she probably would've been like yeah, like cuz you always forget your wallet. Yeah, okay You can Venmo me over Venmo request. That's also a thing to bringing the what she must have just been I just also would be like we're not going to an expensive restaurant She said how many times did she say that it has happened though? She said it's happened so many times every times and that the sister-in-law made the reservation at the expensive restaurant I'd be like no, we're not we're not going. Yeah, I don't know. Oh why I said wait, I

Who paid for it, what happened? - Oh yeah. - So it sounds like based on the comments here that the sister-in-law still didn't pay 'cause she was mad. This is one of those situations where I'm like, why do you keep letting this person do this? - Also, the husband needs to get involved. That's his sister. - Oh, it's his sister, you're right. - It's his sister. - Yeah, he's just kind of there.

Like, get involved, you know? Yeah, not the husband paying, me specifically paying. Also, they should have come to it together. Maybe the husband and the wife should have been like, I'm getting, I mean, she probably just, but maybe if they both were like, here's your wallet, we found it, we brought it for you, like if they were gonna do that. I do think bringing the wallet is kind of like, ugh, like,

Look, she fought fire with fire there, but it's also weird that the sister-in-law is making her pay. She said she's not... Yeah, that's what I was saying. It's some weird shit. This is a weird person. Based on the story, I don't like them. This sounds like a bigger issue with the husband and his sister. And I feel like the sister-in-law... The husband needs to set some fucking boundaries there because the wife should not...

She should not be in charge of taking care of the sister-in-law like that. - Also, oh this wallet is the wrong line. That is the wrong line. - What is the right line? - The right line is, oh my god, I actually grabbed it for you.

So true. I saw it on your suitcase, and I grabbed it. Oh, yeah Oh, it was just sitting out on your suitcase in the car, and I didn't want it to get stolen Here it is or you could have before you went to the restaurant been like hey I need to go do that hey hey I saw your wallet still on your suitcase. You go grab it really quickly. I go grab. Yeah, you'll go grab it. We'll go together Let's hold hands and go there hmm Comments here not the asshole definitely not an asshole, but you might be a legend hmm

Not the asshole if she's actually, if she'd actually forgotten her wallet, she would have been grateful you remembered. Of course we all know she never forgot it. You're already saving her hotel costs by allowing her to stay in your home. The least she should be doing is treating you to a meal out to thank you for hosting her. Not the asshole and I love it. Not how I operate when people

- People come at me, I'm paying for everything. - Same, honestly same. - I have luckily never, we've had a lot of stories like this of people kind of like making other people pay the bill. I've never dealt with it. I guess I've never gone to dinner with two,

Big of assholes because I feel like splitting the bill has never been an argument. No, never I've gone out No, especially ever especially wasn't talking especially with Venmo now like and stuff like that. It's so easy Well, I think if you go with people who's been in the service industry, you don't make it Yeah, because you're like we are not Oh splitting this 17 ways. I I don't know. I I'm I'm a giver and I will I

Most of the time if people are visiting me I'm gonna pay the bill before you even see the bill. Correct. The waiter already has the card. And that's my expectation. I don't expect you to pay and when I'm visiting I don't expect you to pay for me.

I agree completely. And if your mother is visiting, I am taking care. Oh, absolutely. My husband and I are taking care of the bill. Absolutely. Even if she gets pissed. Yeah. I, I, yeah, I'm of the mindset whenever I go like out to dinner with people that I'm like, I need to prepare to be responsible for myself.

Like, no matter what. And I just need to be in that mindset and I can be pleasantly surprised if someone's like, hey, I got this. But do not go with that expectation. That is how you're going to ruin friendships. You will ruin relationships with that mindset. And you are going to make me so much happier if you're prepared to do the whole bill. And I'm not super well off. I'm not like,

Rolling dough. Yeah, and it's sometimes it'll like put me out. Maybe I don't know how many people are at this dinner Just be prepared that worst-case scenario I'm gonna have to cover the bill or or if you're right because I do not want to be in a situation where We can't cover the bill. It's like I only got a nice tea. Yeah, I mean I understand that I get it too But I'm just ready to do it and just in case you have that save so many relationships If you have that mindset you can then communicate beforehand of like hey, I can't afford to go to this place

Boom! And then it's like, hey, oh, we'll figure it out. Boom! Then it's like you communicated it. But it's waiting till the bill to then go, well, I was expecting you to get it. She's clearly very manipulative and she clearly feels she's using her brother and sister-in-law as like mommy-daddy right now. Like she's put them in that role. Yeah. And it's that honestly it's up to the brother to set a freaking boundary. Communication. But if he can't,

then it's up to, unfortunately, the wife to set a boundary and be like, I'm so sorry you can't stay with us right now. - Yeah. - You have to get a hotel room. - To go back on what I just said, she said she is not paying for the meal before the meal started. - She established it. - She established that and she was like, you still wanna go, you made this reservation and I am not paying for it. - No, yeah, this person, full on asshole. - That's fucked up. - Fucked up.

- All right, next story. - Okay. I am hot. - I'm hot too. - Am I the asshole for leaving itemized tips to compensate for my wife's behavior? - What? - Okay.

My wife and I, in our 30s, dine out every once in a while, but not too often because of my wife's annoying habit inherited from her family. She always complains, sends food back if it's not absolutely perfect, and makes needless requests/substitutions. She doesn't have allergies or sensitivities. It can easily take five minutes for her just to order her own food. And sometimes I've already finished my meal by the time she gets her food because she sends it back.

asks for modifications, etc. I know restaurant staff don't appreciate it. I've tried talking to her about this, but she doesn't see an issue with it. Anyway, we make decent money and we use our combined fund funds on dates/dinners. I recently started writing what my wife does on the receipt and then calculating a tip in addition to the normal gratuity to compensate. So to a receipt, I might add, "Complained about not having blank beverage, plus $5."

Asked five questions about a single menu item, plus $5. Asked for a new drink because too much ice, plus $5. Sent meal back was exactly what she ordered, plus $5.

She didn't notice me doing it the first two to three times, but last night she noticed I was spending a lot of time on writing a tip amount and asked why. I showed her what I wrote. She's been mad at me since, saying I'm embarrassing her to the staff. I told her she's embarrassing us both. Am I the asshole? Petty, maybe, but an asshole? Edit. My wife is otherwise a very nice, caring, and generous person. She does always say please and thank you, even for her most absurd requests.

Annoying each other like this is our love language, but this time she's pretty mad. Oops. It's tough 'cause he's sick. - Then stay mad. You know who else is mad? All the servers that you're fucking with. They have a system. Come in there and-- - Fuck it up. - Run shop. - It's a little bit of like, please and thank you doesn't excuse.

- Too much ice, please, thank you. - Well, it's just, it's also, I would be mad too because I would be embarrassed because I would see in written form, oh, this is what I'm doing. I'm upset, but not at you, I'm upset at myself because now I have written text of what I've done. - But you're a healthy person.

I wonder though, what we don't have context of. I don't think that's what she's thinking. No, I think that is what she's thinking, but I don't think she's really thought about what she's thinking.

Well, we don't have I don't think she can Do you know what I mean? Like she's thinking it and she's acting out but she's not she's not like looking inwardly and being like why am I actually mad? What's actually making me mad right now? Well, we what we don't have context on is whether or not he has tried to communicate with her about that's what I was wondering cuz if he Had he yeah, he said he did we've tied. Oh, you're right. You're right. Sorry. I take that back. So I did I

He established I've tried talking to her about this, but she doesn't see an issue with issue with it So he has tried and now he's just like fuck it. Yeah, like I'll pay for it Did he just show her the things that he wrote down? How did that happen? Yeah, she goes she goes what he saw because he was taking a really long time She's like why are you taking so long on your tip thing? All right, and I showed her what I wrote. I

Saying she's mad at me since saying I'm embarrassing her to the staff. I told her she's in bearing it embarrassing us both Yeah, she said you're embarrassing me to the staff. It's like no you already did that. I've already been done I don't think I'm compensating. I don't know the asshole because I

They're married, they have their own love language, they have their own back and forth, and to be honest, if he's already tried to communicate it with her, and this is like another way that he's trying to enjoy going out to dinner, well, whatever. What? - Okay. - What's happening here?

I just thought about something. What? He should have just put the extra tip in. He shouldn't be writing the reason. No, I think that is pretty fucked a little bit. Yeah, it is fucked that he's writing the reason. It is a little fucked, but also... It's kind of an inside joke between him and the staff. It is, and it's an inside joke. If he's not showing her every time, he's like, it's an inside joke between me and the staff showing I'm cool. She's the problem. Yeah, he said, annoying each other like this is our love language, but he wasn't... What does that mean? He wasn't showing her. This was a secret to her.

Oh, right. This is a secret to him and the staff. Then it is. It's like, I'm the cool one. I promise. I'm paying for the check. Sorry she's such a bitch. I'm so sorry about my bitch wife. Yes, that's exactly what it is. Yeah, it's one of those things. And I mean, I'm not a marriage counselor or an expert in any sort of sense. But stuff like this, I'm like, you're telling me this isn't going to turn into resentment at some point in your marriage? Yeah. Like, bro, this is...

I mean, it's a, but also I think she needs to acknowledge like whether she is fine with doing it or not, she needs to acknowledge like it is embarrassing. Like you are making the staff stay harder. - And you are not in control.

You going to a restaurant, you are not in control. Someone else is in the kitchen cooking your meal. Someone else is gonna bring it to you and someone else is gonna do your dishes. That's the thing, let the restaurant take over. Let them serve you how they curated the menu. It is purposeful. There's been a lot of thought. There have been so much thought. Enjoy the experience.

If I was a husband, I would have been like, I'm not going out to dinner with you. I'm so sorry, but I need to take a break from going out to dinner because I'm not enjoying myself. And she doesn't have allergies or sensitivities. So let's establish that. Like, this is just her preferences. I, I look.

Maybe I'm the asshole for this, but if I was at a restaurant and someone sent a drink back because it had too much ice, I think I'd probably look them in the face and go, fuck, go fuck. There's just no, there is no explanation for this other than this is something she does. That's what it sounds. Something she does specifically at restaurants. This is not a behavior that. Which it could be catered to restaurants, I guess. It was a normalized thing for her growing up, but it.

And that's, once again, if she wants to say, hey, I'm going to do this, this is how I am, this is how I eat, but she needs to also acknowledge, yeah, I am making the waiters day harder. I can't deny that aspect. Not only the waiter. Everybody. There's cooks, there's food runners, there's expos, there's, now this ticket, that this menu, this item that has gone out thousands of times, has all,

all of these modifications on it. So now this guy is standing with his ticket who didn't ring it in, a server ring it in. - Expo. - Expo is gonna have to read this to the cooks. A lot of times they speak different languages and there's little modifications that they don't understand. It doesn't translate well. So now I have to explain how to do this dish that they've done a thousand times

That makes sense to them while they have 26 other every other table cuz this foods getting cold this foods getting cold This guy's getting pissed now this server is having a bad day now He's gonna be in a have an attitude towards the other tables cocktails are sitting and waiting. Everything is like a web. Yeah, yeah I think it's like oh I get from I just got so I'm so

Because I know there's people that go well I I need food a certain way and I have my preferences but I'm like I think when you're at a restaurant so places I think when you're at a restaurant you kind of have to let go a little bit of the eye like you are at a place where you are you are affecting a lot of people's day yep and week

to let go of 80% of your control at a restaurant. Do not go out to a restaurant if you're not down for the experience. I'm sorry. There are places that you can go. Sure. And there are also places that like you serve, like not serve yourself, but there are places that you can cater your own, whatever you need. Correct. You can do it. And there are restaurants that...

There are certain modifications that are they are like we can do this so open to it We can do these go to those restaurant. We have a lot of options available to you. Yeah, gluten-free Vegan you don't want food touching we can do that we can do that Yeah, but like when you start getting into it if with if the restaurant is like we can't do this or like it's not an option that Is on the menu for you, right?

It doesn't work. I agree. Okay. It just slows down every, it makes everyone's life so much worse. So we have some comments here. Not the asshole. That must be mortifying. Let's have your wife work as a waitress in one of the restaurants you both frequent. Let's see how fast her behavior changes.

Someone else said, "Not the asshole. Please continue doing this until she isn't a nightmare to waitstaff. Saying please and thank you doesn't mean jack shit if you're making problems that aren't there in order to feel satisfied, or whatever her motivation is for being this way." A new comment.

Everyone sucks here. Your wife sucks, but you do too because you treat it like throwing money at the problem will make it okay. At restaurants, you pay money for food, drinks, and service. Insulting and degrading the staff is not on the menu. How would you feel if I slapped you in the face but then gave you $5 and said it wasn't that bad because I was nice about it? Money does not entitle you to hurt others. But money's okay. Great. Thank you so much. Wait, I also have to say, I'm going back to the modifications again.

Lot of times people don't realize that the food has already been prepped hours before we get it is already it is Is slated to serve a thousand people that night like we have we have this dill sauce? That we have already made we cannot take out the dill it is in the saw I know I'm allergic to this

Can you take this off? No, it's already pre- the onions are already balsamic. They are already roasted in balsamic dressing. They are in a vat that we can heat up. They just got made hours before, but we can't make another vat just for you. That's not how this works. I agree. Have you guys ever left extra tips based on like, have you ever been out to dinner with someone who was really embarrassing and you left like an extra tip? Always.

Really? Always. No, no, no, I'm saying like have you ever been in a situation like this where you're out to dinner and someone you were dining with was kind of shitty to the waitstaff so you were like fuck I'm gonna add. I'm like if that ever happened. If that happened of course, but I'm saying has it happened? Yeah, I have. It

- With big part, with like a big group? - It's happened-- - I'm sorry that we were so rambunctious. - It's happened to me with a new friend. I remember it was very small. We were getting like coffee and something and she was being so specific about her latte and she like got it redone twice and I in front of her was like, I'm so sorry and she let me have it.

She was like, "How dare you? "How dare you make me feel bad, "like make me feel embarrassed?" So that was years ago. - That's hard. You've never done it since. - Whoa. I haven't done it since.

And so I won't verbally say it. I'm just very cautious about it. I would never apologize on someone's behalf. And I did. I did. And that was a big lesson for me. So it's tricky with the tip thing. I think if we're a group and I'm with my friends and we've been loud, we've been asking for a lot of things. Fuck yeah, I'll leave a bigger tip. Yeah.

Yeah, and I have friends, you know, I know people with food sensitivities or situations where they would maybe do something like this, but I totally understand. And the way they go about it is so respectful and different. But I'm typically very wary and cautious of controlling people. And so, and I, controlling people typically give that kind of response. So if I'm around someone who exhibits that kind of behavior, I usually just try to remove myself and

Remove myself as far away from that time I now will try to do that because I've definitely been burned because they eventually they go from controlling the stuff around them to trying to control you Yes, it typically happens. My husband is sir bartender bar manager

In our relationship we sit at the bar. He is watching the bar. He's watching how things are prepared Sometimes he's like I love how they do that. Oh, what's that? That's not clean or whatever and and I used to get so frustrated about it because I used to not be calm But now I'm like this is something he enjoys Yeah, this is something he loves when I go see a show like a comedy show you best believe I'm fucking sitting there think about all that shit yeah, so I'm like

Because I love him and now understand the root of it, I get it. But I will say still as a server, sometimes I can't turn it off. No. I stack all the plates at the end. Oh, of course. I'm like...

all the plates, they're like, wow, thank you. I'm like, mm-hmm. - But here's the thing with servers, when we come into the restaurant, and me and my mom, my mom famously server Pancake Pantry. - Yes. - When we go to a restaurant, we are your best friend, your greatest ally, or your worst enemy.

because we are so unforgiving to maybe not bad service. We see, we can see your section. We see what's going on. We see the kitchen most of the time. We know what's going on. So we know if you're just doing a bad job. And then we're like,

Damn. We're still gonna tip at least 20%. Of course. Always. Always. But we're not, like, the back and forth is not, we're not gonna be your friends. I agree. We're gonna be very stern. Wait, hear me out. Do you, are you the type of people that go, we're servers?

If they're doing a bad job who I don't I don't drop that ever because when I used to serve people that go We're servers too, and I'm like mm-hmm And if you said that I'd go thank you for your service Well, sometimes those are the nightmare tables though sometimes sometimes I understand what you're saying. Yeah, I'm like you're like I know you're I know you're just fucking up Yeah bad

Yeah. 'Cause I can see your section. Yeah. And all of it has the plates at the end of the table. It's so dirty, dirty section, dirty section, dirty mind. Dirty sections are the worst.

So yeah, take us out to dinner. But really, most of the time I'm like, I'm going to banter with you. I'm going to be a great table. I'm going to be really easy. Correct. If there are modifications, I'll ask and I'll be like, I actually don't, I really don't like truffle oil. Is there any way that truffle oil cannot be on it? They're like, no. They're like, yeah, that's an easy fix. Great. Love it. All right, here's the update.

Alrighty friends. We've had our laughs and shared our perspectives since my wife frequencies subreddit I went ahead and showed her this post with that said I'd like to address a few things first She and I both know that any posts on this sub are peep holes into people's lives and characters not display cases Yes, my wife's behavior when dining out is bad Which is why I tried to think of a way to point it out and make it up make up for it That said she's not a bad person learn to separate the two and you'll get far in life. Okay, dude

She made him write this learn to separate the two and you'll get far in life. She's like and you'll get far in life Yeah, secondly when I say she was lol is mad at me. I don't mean that she is deeply hurt and distraught She's calling me an asshole. Yes, but that's normal for us if this was something that was actually hurtful to her I wouldn't be sharing it online anyway, she would like for you all to know that she is taking your responses to heart and

and she is going to be more mindful of how she dines. She would like to add that she didn't think it was a big deal before because, as she puts it, she doesn't think twice about meeting expectations in her line of work, even if they are above and beyond the norm. She's just happy to meet demand, but she recognizes that not everyone feels that way. She's going to try to be a better customer. She said reading this was brutally eye-opening, but we both also found some laughter and had a good discussion.

Okay, that um that comment actually just solidified it solidified that she is the asshole he is being tied up right now and she's at gum tell them i'm reading my wife said you know, she she wants to she likes to meet a demand and um She literally said she literally said or he he sorry he said that I'm, sorry that some people just don't want to meet expectations and

That's what she said. Like, they can't, I'm sorry that you can't meet my expectations. Because there were explanations that could have been given where she's like, I'm so sorry, you know, like, I just, I'm very specific about things and I know and all this stuff. But no, she said this. And it solidified where she's coming from. This was in Am I the Devil, right? No. No.

Also, she didn't say anything. He wrote it for her, which is so bizarre. Well, she might not have a post or might not have a... I don't have a computer. I don't have a computer. All right, here's your MacBook. Yeah, could I get more RAM on this? This isn't the RAM I wanted. Not the RAM I wanted. All right, here's our last story. That's crazy. This comes from a great subreddit. Tales from your server. Ooh, love. We'll get it.

The phone call. I know we all have had those phone calls, the ones from customers after they get takeout and something was messed up. They can range from the upset woman who got the chicken when it was supposed to be steak and wants it comped the next time she comes in, to the raging man who found one onion in his taco and is planning to drive to the store to scream at the manager and wants everyone fired. It's always a little nerve-wracking when you deal with these phone calls. The procedure for my store when getting one of these phone calls is

is to get a manager immediately, but I feel like I can deal with these customers better than my managers. And my managers all know this, so I am allowed to take these calls. It was a busy Thursday evening because we have a burrito special, so the store was slammed. We also have Uber Eats, which means we have Uber drivers coming in and out getting takeout orders. On Uber Eats, the customer can sometimes write comments to specify certain things that they want done for their order. After we slowed down a little bit, we got an Uber order, and in the comments, the man said, "Could you please add napkins

and draw a smiley face on something to make me a little happy tonight. Of course, after I showed all the servers, we all freaked out and decided we would write him so many notes just to brighten up his evening. We ended up making over 50 notes including jokes, drawings, and little stories and added an extra side of queso. It felt really nice to be able to do something for someone. So as I was getting ready to clock out, one of the other servers comes and gets me and says there's a man on the phone who wants to speak to a manager about something.

but they're all so busy, so can you take this? Of course I'm like, oh geez, I do not want to be dealing with this right before I leave, but I reluctantly agree and ask him how I can help. He proceeded to tell me that he was the one who placed the Uber order, and after receiving all the notes, he just wanted to call and say thank you. He started to cry on the phone, and I didn't know what to say, so I just told him that we loved serving him and we hoped to continue to do so.

He told me that he wishes he was able to come into the restaurant but hadn't been able to leave his house in years. His little splurge every week was ordering takeout from the store. I started to tear up and asked him to hold on for a minute. I got all the servers and put them on speakerphone to say hello from chain Mexican restaurant.

"We all just wanted to say have a great night. "And all the girls got the cue and started saying, "'Have a good night, enjoy your burrito. "'We can't wait to do this next week.' "I took the phone off speakerphone "after everyone had said something. "I told him that he was now not only a valued customer, "but a friend. "I thanked him again and hung up. "Now I'm sitting in my car crying, "thinking about this stranger, and I hoped we helped him." - Oh. - Oh. - Yep. - I was waiting for the but. - I was waiting for the but. - I was waiting for him to be like,

Buddy showed up and blew up the restaurant. And then all of a sudden his car drives to the restaurant. Right.

Happy face. Oh, that's so sweet. I really thought for a second he was going to be mad about the notes. Me too. Which I was like, 50 is too many. Do you have any? Too many notes. I thought they were going to freak him out. Like, I thought he was going to call and be like, hey, I asked for one smiley face. Yeah. You got to take these notes back. Oh, that's so nice. Do you guys have any memorable, like, super wholesome stories from serving? Oh, definitely a lot of wholesome things happened.

It's just the bad ones stick out But did you probably probably had days that like a customer brightened up your day? Oh? Absolutely some customers are absolutely amazing like oh, I think I think a while back I had this oh this girl She had like lost her mom, and she was like eating eating food by herself. I forget I

But I remember her being like, you could tell that she'd been crying all day. And as a server, I don't,

I don't get too personal, ever. - Sure. - I like him in and out, usually. - Yeah. - I'm not like, "Are you okay, honey?" Like, I don't do any of that. I just kinda let it be, and I very much was kind, but not over the top, just being normal, and at the end, she just broke down into tears and asked me for a hug, because she was like, "Thank you for just being there." And it was, I remember just,

And I forget which restaurant that was, but, and it was like a very slow day, it was like a lunch day, so there was like no one really around, and I remember being like, it was just very sweet. And, yeah. - I just love serving parties, like birthday parties or anything, 'cause I will make it the most fun

- Nice. - I will make it the most fun experience you've ever had. - I am the opposite. I think it's too much pressure. - Oh, I'm-- - Oh. - Easy, I'm like easy. And also, I'm so extroverted and I get more energy from more people, so like a two top, I'm not gonna do as well with. But like a 16 top, I will be the life of, you'll be like, that server was so fun. - I am the opposite. A 16 top, I'm like,

Hello, let's turn on the performance. We're a two-top. I'm like, hey, let's get real. Order this, but don't order this. And order this, but order this. I do that too. Let me get some taste for you. I fucking love a two-top. Yeah, and people are always so appreciative of...

like so, so appreciative. They're like, "Servers never do this." I'm like, "I think you don't go out to eat a lot, "because a lot of servers do exactly," they're like, "Don't order that, do order that." - Yeah, I always tell, I think maybe servers don't do that. - Really? - Yeah, because I get that all the time. They're like, "You're the best server, "no one ever tells me what to do." I'm like, "What? "What's wrong with these servers then?" - Yeah. I definitely like when I go to a restaurant knowing like,

Not that I'm like, I'm brightening up this server's day. I like to know that I'm like, I am not making their day worse. Like, I just want to be here. There was one time where I was at a restaurant with a friend and we were just, we weren't being like extra like awesome to the server. We were just like, they would come by and they'd be like, hey, I'm so sorry. This has taken a while. And we'd just be like, oh, that's fine. Yeah. And, but she kept coming back and be like, thank you guys for being so awesome. And we could tell there was a table nearby that was awful. Yeah.

But we were just literally be like oh, yeah, it's whatever like yeah, whatever to the point that at the end She was like do you guys want to do a shot with me right now? And we're like yeah, yeah, sure It was we were just like oh and then she brought us a free dessert like a huge fuck. Yeah Yeah, all that. Okay Yeah, I will always if the table is being chill. Yeah, the cooler you are the more you're like thinking about drinks I'm like, I'll just get you taste. Yep. Okay tasters of everything

Try this, hey, this was extra. - And there are so many hacks. Not only does the restaurant have built into it for cool people, like the less you modify, the more you're gonna get for free, the cooler you are, the more things you're gonna get off your bill. - There's so many hacks, you're right, and the restaurant builds them in there. - And the servers know their own hacks too within the system of the restaurant. - Yes! - Yeah, this one's so sweet.

- So sweet. - But really just like an awesome one. Some comments here. I'm crying in the club right now. - Oh my God. - Someone else said, take your fucking up vote, I'm ugly crying at this.

Someone else said, "Was expecting to feed my cynicism, but got hit right in the feels instead." Bravo, chain Mexican restaurant, bravo. And then lastly, someone said, "The service industry definitely has its downs, but brightening other people's day always helps brighten my own." - It has a lot of ups. - It has a lot of ups. - It's a roller coaster. - Service industry has a lot of ups. I've met some of the greatest people on the planet. - I would say mostly ups. - I agree.

- I agree with you. - Because most people, when they're leaving, they're full, they might be a little tipsy, they just had good conversation. - And you feel good, you feel good. And I love stories like that because

Really you really can change someone's whole outlook someone's whole day Yeah by giving them food giving them time and you really don't have to do much and I love it There's so many ups and also what I love to what I used to love about serving is it was an amazing Meditation because you weren't thinking about nothing everything in your life You were just you weren't thinking about anything in the fucking you were just going and when you're in the zone and hours pass by you're like oh

Oh, it's meditating. - It is meditative. Wow, man. - Pretty cool. And being in the industry, especially in LA, oh my god, every restaurant is connected with a web of industry people. - Oh yeah, that's true. - You go in, you're like, oh yeah, I used to bartend here. They're like, oh my god, free this, free that, free that. Now when I go out with H, every bar, it's like he knows someone from someone, and it's like, oh, try these drinks. Oh, we got this new mezcal, or blah, blah, blah.

It's so cool. It is cool. Come out with us, Shane. All right, fine. Let's go to Chili's. Okay. It's far. I'll go to Chili's. Well, thank you both for being here. This was awesome. You're welcome. And thank you for watching. Be kind to your waiters. Be kind to them. And let us know what other kinds of themes, subreddits you want us to cover. And we'll see you next week. Bye. Bye. Bye.