On episode 384, we are joined by Robert Powell. Powell is the author of several books on UFOs, the most recent being "UFOs: A Scientist Explains What We Know (and Don't Know)". We discuss the book, Powell's journey from director of research from MUFON to eventually founding the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies, and then we talk about all the latest UFO hearings and the determinations made by AARO with several UAP cases.