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Can War Games Prevent Actual War?

2025/6/19
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Greg Dixon: 世界局势动荡,对兵棋推演的需求增加。兵棋推演通过模拟潜在冲突,帮助分析局势和制定应对策略,降低实际战争的风险。兵棋推演提供了一个低成本、低风险的环境,让决策者可以测试不同的方案,并更好地理解潜在的后果。这种模拟有助于识别战略弱点,并促进更有效的防御计划的制定。通过模拟,我们可以更好地了解战争的复杂性,从而避免误判和升级。 Emily Feng: 我参与了一场兵棋推演,模拟中国封锁台湾的情景。通过观察和记录,我希望能够揭示兵棋推演在分析和预测冲突中的作用。兵棋推演不仅是一种游戏,更是一种严肃的战略工具,可以帮助决策者更好地理解潜在的冲突场景。通过模拟,我们可以更好地了解各方的行动和反应,从而制定更有效的应对策略。兵棋推演还可以促进各方之间的沟通和理解,从而降低误判和冲突的风险。 Webb Ewell: 如果中国封锁台湾,可能引发全球经济战。我们需要考虑如何应对这种封锁,并制定相应的经济和军事策略。经济战可能比军事冲突更具破坏性,因为它会影响全球的贸易和供应链。因此,我们需要制定全面的应对计划,包括外交、经济和军事手段。兵棋推演可以帮助我们更好地理解这种风险,并制定更有效的应对策略。 Raymond Dubois: 参与者通常了解最新的武器装备和军事计划。兵棋推演能够帮助我们测试新的防御策略,并起到威慑作用,因为它展示了战争的致命性。通过模拟,我们可以更好地了解潜在的冲突场景,并制定更有效的应对策略。兵棋推演还可以促进各方之间的沟通和理解,从而降低误判和冲突的风险。我认为兵棋推演对于预防实际战争至关重要。 Yule: 争论表明兵棋推演正在发挥作用,它能让人思考在真实情境下会如何行动。兵棋推演不仅仅是模拟军事行动,更重要的是模拟人的行为和决策过程。通过模拟,我们可以更好地了解各方的风险偏好和决策模式,从而制定更有效的应对策略。兵棋推演还可以促进各方之间的沟通和理解,从而降低误判和冲突的风险。我认为兵棋推演对于预防实际战争至关重要。 Eric Hagenbotham: 台湾提议总统辞职,驱逐美军,并向中国开放半导体产业,以换取不入侵的承诺。这种提议反映了在冲突升级时的潜在妥协方案。我们需要认真考虑这些方案,并评估其可行性和风险。兵棋推演可以帮助我们更好地理解这些方案的潜在后果,并制定更有效的应对策略。我认为兵棋推演对于预防实际战争至关重要。 Mark Kianzian: 今天的结局相对和平,但仍有大量伤亡。这表明即使是有限的冲突也可能造成严重的破坏。我们需要尽一切努力来避免冲突,并寻求和平解决方案。兵棋推演可以帮助我们更好地理解冲突的潜在后果,并制定更有效的预防策略。我认为兵棋推演对于预防实际战争至关重要。

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Geopolitics are always changing, but the world has felt particularly unstable lately with ongoing wars and expanding conflicts. And this global instability has increased demand for tabletop war games. These are simulations used to predict how the U.S. might fare in a war with, say, China over Taiwan.

Even people with classified information are taking part in these low-tech exercises. NPR's Emily Feng takes us along as she watches one such war game. This war game involves three roundtables and on each a large map of Taiwan and China. There

There's little blue and red pieces representing submarines, warplanes and ships, and more than a dozen men all here to play a game, imagining what could happen if China blockaded Taiwan. If they shoot at us, we shoot back. The think tank running this game series is the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. They want to figure out how to counter China if it blocked all food, fuel and arms from getting to Taiwan.

Webb Ewell is one of the players. This thing can devolve into a global economic war rather than a military shooting war if the Chinese choose to blockade route. Ewell directs a wargaming division at the Center for Naval Analyses, which advises the U.S. Navy.

Today, he's playing Team Taiwan, and he's playing alongside Raymond Dubois, another player for Team USA today. I'm having a lot of fun. Dubois is a former acting Undersecretary of the Army, and at one point, he was the most senior administrator at Pentagon headquarters. The thing about what we've done over the last three years...

is that these are unclassified games. Then he mouths to me, no, they're not. Those of us who are playing come from a background where we're very aware of what's not only on the planning policy side...

but on the system side. Meaning the players often have access to classified information and are aware of the latest weaponry the U.S. commands. Last year, Du Bois played another version of today's game simulating a Chinese invasion of Taiwan.

In that series, he played Team China. And we won. Today's game is messier. The players, including Team China, soon discover how difficult it is to de-escalate from even a blockade. Japan gets roped in. The U.S. attempts to airlift in supplies and cut off trade routes. And it all gets bloody. What?

Taiwan does the surface to air. We do the air to surface. And things in real life also get heated. I'm getting no information. I don't even know where the maritime militia is. That's Yule from the Center for Naval Analysis. He says the arguing shows the game is working. You've got to get at the human aspects of these problems, in particular risk preferences and things like that. So the whole point is to get people's heads into a situation thinking about how they would actually act if they were in it. A few hours in, Taiwan offers a support

prize truce to China. They offer to have their president resign, to kick out American troops, and to open their coveted semiconductor industry to China. Here's Eric Hagenbotham, a research scientist at MIT's Security Studies program and a coordinator today for Team China. So no compliance with U.S. export controls. In return... What they're asking for is a commitment to not invade the island.

Ever? Ever. Mark Kianzian from the hosting think tank helped design today's game. Out of the four times it's been played so far, two ended in vicious retaliation.

He says today's ending was more peaceful. I would say less violent outcomes because we still ended up with a couple dozen ships sunk and aircraft shot down and thousands of casualties, but not as much as in some of the previous games where the casualties were much higher. China's hyped up military drills and military harassment around Taiwan. Military analysts warn China could be practicing for a real blockade.

So, Dubois argues wargaming is more needed than ever. The more that people actually really talk to each other about, what do you think the other side will do? If we do this, what are they going to do? If they do this, what are we going to do? I think that's healthy, because I think ultimately it prevents a war. As in, wargames don't just help us test out new defense strategies. They also act as a deterrent, because the games show just how deadly war actually is.

Emily Fang, NPR News, Washington. That's the state of the world from NPR. Thanks for listening. The Middle East is dominating this week's headlines. On Consider This, we dive into what's at stake in a war between Israel and Iran. Plus, we take a look back at the Iraq War and lessons from 2003. Listen now to the Consider This podcast on the NPR app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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