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Trump’s Misuse of History (with Heather Cox Richardson & Joanne Freeman)

2025/5/15
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Heather Cox Richardson: 我认为现在预测人身保护令或正当程序是否会被侵蚀已经没有意义，因为我们一直都在目睹这种侵蚀。我更关注政府利用紧急权力来实施关税，这可能是不合法的或违宪的。而且，美国人是否真正了解他们的宪法权利，以及成为这个国家的一份子意味着什么，这是一个值得思考的问题。 Joanne Freeman: 我认为，现在的问题是，当人们看到权利被侵犯时，这种权利的真实性就变得非常重要。有些人认为，如果你出生在这个国家，并且你的祖辈也出生在这个国家，你就会拥有额外的特殊权利，而如果你是归化入籍的，你的权利就会减少，如果你是非法移民，你的权利就更少。我们真正需要担心的是，很多人更关心结果而不是过程，无论如何达到目的都可以。我们正面临一场严重的过程危机。 Preet Bharara: 如果废除出生公民权，人们将通过申请和归化来成为美国公民。有些人倾向于支持某些独裁倾向，只要国家领导人的政策观点与他们一致。一些左派人士也可能认为，一位仁慈的独裁者可以不受最高法院或国会的阻碍，行使广泛权力来颁布进步立法。另一方也会这样做，而且权力在历史上一直被使用，胜利者应该获得战利品。

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What happens when a U.S. president doesn’t know his history? Historians Heather Cox Richardson and Joanne Freeman join Preet to discuss the history of due process, the misuse of historical events for political messaging, and how Trump misunderstood the Declaration of Independence. And check out Preet’s live conversation with Heather and Joanne on Substack).

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