【随机波动153】和五条人聊天：飘在空中的思想啊，我捕捉不到
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Why did the collaboration between Cao Fei and Wu Tiao Ren for the 'Big Era Cabaret' concert happen?
The collaboration between Cao Fei and Wu Tiao Ren for the 'Big Era Cabaret' concert happened because Cao Fei was invited to be the artistic director. She had previously worked on an exhibition called 'Times Stage' in 2021, which resonated with Wu Tiao Ren's themes. The band approached her after seeing the exhibition, and she found their lyrics and themes overlapping with her own artistic interests, such as urbanization and the transformation of the Pearl River Delta.
What were the key elements of the stage design in the 'Big Era Cabaret' concert?
The stage design for the 'Big Era Cabaret' concert featured a highway on the right side of the stage, a large scaffolding on the left, and a giant red high-heel shoe in the center. The shoe had a rotating gallery light and a red rose inside. These elements symbolized urban imagery and the rapid urbanization of the Pearl River Delta, reflecting the themes of Wu Tiao Ren's music and Cao Fei's artistic vision.
How did the audience in Beijing and Guangzhou differ in their reactions to the 'Big Era Cabaret' concert?
The audience in Guangzhou was more familiar with Wu Tiao Ren's music, but the band felt nervous during the first show due to technical issues with their in-ear monitors. In Beijing, the band felt more relaxed and confident, partly because they had gained experience from performing in Guangzhou and participating in variety shows. The Beijing audience, including some who were not familiar with the band, was highly impressed by the concert's production and performance.
What is the significance of the lyrics 'Today globalization, tomorrow we play by ourselves' in Wu Tiao Ren's music?
The lyrics 'Today globalization, tomorrow we play by ourselves' reflect a cyclical view of history and globalization. Written during the peak of globalization in 2007, the song 'Ten Years East, Ten Years West' suggests that global trends and power dynamics are not linear but cyclical, much like the ebb and flow of water. This perspective resonates with the current uncertainties and shifts in global politics and economics.
How does Wu Tiao Ren's music reflect the spirit of the Pearl River Delta?
Wu Tiao Ren's music captures the spirit of the Pearl River Delta through its focus on everyday life, urbanization, and the region's unique cultural blend. Their lyrics often depict scenes like riding motorcycles in Shibei Village or searching for pigs in the city, symbolizing the region's pragmatic, flexible, and self-reliant nature. The band's music also reflects the rapid transformation of the Pearl River Delta, from rural areas to urban centers, and the resilience of its people.
What role did the Ergao Dance Troupe play in the 'Big Era Cabaret' concert?
The Ergao Dance Troupe collaborated with Wu Tiao Ren for the 'Big Era Cabaret' concert, creating unique choreography that reflected the themes of each song. Unlike traditional backup dancers, Ergao's movements were not synchronized but instead interpreted the music and lyrics in a more organic and expressive way. Their performance added a layer of artistic depth to the concert, blending modern dance with the cultural and historical context of the Pearl River Delta.
- 广州禁摩令
- 飞车党抢劫
- 城中村环境
- 摩托车抢劫
- 身体智慧：三步一回头
- 广州美术学院的墓地
Shownotes Transcript
2021年，艺术家曹斐和乐队五条人在北京第一次见面。这像一场迟到多年的聚会。他们都成长和活跃于千禧年左右的珠三角，彼时飞车党横行，曹斐在日常生活中发展出一套可随时调用的身体智慧——三步一回头，利用反光镜实时观察身后状况；仁科至今不喜欢有人走在身后，这是他2004年在广州遭遇抢劫后的创伤记忆。他们也备受珠三角野乱中有序、多空隙结构的滋养。陈侗的博尔赫斯书店，法国的新小说，海量的打口碟……毗邻香港让珠三角成为某种文化和艺术的前沿，也让它形成了与北方政治中心截然不同的气候。曹斐用影像记录了珠三角的城市化进程：菜地变楼房，墓地变学校。她绕过北方中心，直接走向世界。而五条人则在城市里找猪，在石牌桥骑摩托车，他们放弃飘在空中的那些思想，而是关注飘在空中的塑料袋，和踩在脚下的人字拖。这两者后来成为五条人的象征，也很能代表珠三角的精神：自成体系、灵活变通、务实肯干，专注眼下，也期盼目之所及的明天。
他们的作品和经历彼此呼应与互文，最后交织于五条人巡回演唱会“大时代歌厅”。曹斐担任此次巡演的艺术导演。她将五条人歌中的意象实体化，搬上舞台。红色高跟鞋，工地脚手架，发廊霓虹灯，历史影像闯入当下经验，今日之声混杂往日回响。当他们在台上唱起“今日全球化，明日自己耍”时，仿佛一支来自过去的箭，射中今日之我们。但他们也唱：“嘿，我的朋友，明天的太阳依然为你而升起来。”
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【本期主播】
傅适野，媒体人，新浪微博@ssshiye 张之琪，媒体人，新浪微博@CyberZhiqi
【本期嘉宾】
仁科，五条人乐队主唱兼手风琴手和吉他手、词曲创作者 茂涛，五条人乐队主唱兼吉他手、词曲创作者 曹斐，艺术家，五条人「大时代歌厅」演唱会艺术导演
[01:55]五条人和曹斐命运交错的20年 [03:30]千禧前后的广州：小偷、摩的和青春岁月 [13:17]在边缘和中心的对照中，创造自己的小漩涡 [23:35]在广州吸收世界 [29:51]因「时代舞台」相识，在「大时代歌厅」合作 [35:41]断桥、脚手架和高跟鞋：「大时代歌厅」的舞台设计 [44:24]livehouse可以即兴，演唱会需要严谨 [50:58]想买五月天伍佰告五人买错票的人都成了五条人的粉丝 [58:47]AI还取代不了人，但人也逐渐AI化了 [1:04:40]昨日全球化，今天怎么耍？
【本期节目中出现的五条人的歌曲】
《最寒冷的一天》 《石牌桥》 《地球仪》 《我的头发就是这样被吹乱的啊》 《初恋》 《阿琳娜》 《问题出现我再告诉大家》 《十年水流东，十年水流西》
【本期节目中出现的人物和团体】
雷姆·库哈斯，荷兰建筑师，OMA首席设计师，哈佛大学设计研究所建筑与城市规划学教授 陈侗，广州美术学院中国画学院教授，1994年创办“博尔赫斯书店” 胡向前，艺术家，现工作和生活在广州 刘庆元，艺术家，广州美术学院跨媒体艺术学院副院长、实验艺术系系主任 黄小鹏（1962-2020），艺术家，曾任广州时代美术馆黄边站负责人 王磊，音乐人，1998年在创办UNPLUGGED酒吧 吴吞，舌头乐队主唱 郑国谷，艺术家，现工作和生活在广东阳江 杨勇，艺术家，策展人，现工作和生活在深圳 大尾象，一个广州的艺术家团体，成员包括梁钜辉、林一林、陈绍雄、徐坦 阿兰·罗伯-格里耶，法国作家、电影制片人，新小说的代表人物之一 让·艾什诺兹，法国作家、译者 吴山专，艺术家，曾发起“国际红色幽默”运动
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