We're sunsetting PodQuest on 2025-07-28. Thank you for your support!
Export Podcast Subscriptions
cover of episode 843: Safe, Fast and Efficient AI, with Protopia’s Dr. Eiman Ebrahimi

843: Safe, Fast and Efficient AI, with Protopia’s Dr. Eiman Ebrahimi

2024/12/10
logo of podcast Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn

Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn

AI Deep Dive AI Insights AI Chapters Transcript
People
I
Iman Ebrahimi
Topics
Iman Ebrahimi: 我是Protopia AI的CEO,我们致力于解决AI数据安全和隐私问题。我们的解决方案不局限于大型语言模型或第三方系统,而是适用于任何机器学习模型,目标是在保证效率的前提下最大限度地减少数据暴露。数据暴露一直是机器学习领域的一大挑战,而Protopia旨在通过提供高效且安全的解决方案来应对这一挑战。我们公司的名字"Protopia"象征着我们对不断改进和追求最佳实践的承诺,我们致力于尽可能地接近零数据暴露的目标,同时避免让系统变得过于复杂而难以应用。在数据保护领域,我们需要权衡多个因素,包括数据安全、性能和成本。在机器学习中,特别是推理阶段,低延迟至关重要,因此数据保护方案不能显著影响系统速度。Protopia的解决方案注重系统级需求,确保在各种用例中都能高效地保护数据。我们的方法是迭代式改进,不断完善数据安全技术,并与现有安全技术互补。我们采取主动式数据安全方法,即使系统被入侵,也能最大限度地降低数据泄露的风险。我们的核心产品Stained Glass Engine通过学习数据在高维空间中的多种表示方式,在运行时随机选择一种表示,从而提高数据安全性。Stained Glass Transform利用机器学习模型的特性,在保持数据含义不变的情况下,改变数据表示,从而提高安全性。即使使用开放模型,数据在平台上的运行也存在安全风险,因为平台本身可能被入侵。我们的解决方案能够解决这个问题,即使数据泄露,也难以被恶意利用。在运行时,Stained Glass Transform动态采样嵌入向量,而不是使用确定性嵌入,从而使数据难以被追踪。通过在运行时动态采样嵌入向量,并与模型理解的含义相结合,使得原始文本信息与转换后的嵌入向量之间没有一一对应的映射关系,从而增强数据安全性。Stained Glass Transform解耦了原始文本信息的所有权,即使数据泄露,也难以还原原始信息。 John Krohn: (访谈中提出的问题和引导性发言,此处不展开)

Deep Dive

Key Insights

Why is data security crucial for the success of AI projects in enterprises?

Data security is essential because without seamless security solutions, many valuable AI use cases never make it to production. Enterprises face challenges in deploying AI at scale due to the trade-offs between cost and security, often resulting in high costs for private infrastructure that can be prohibitive for ROI.

What is the main challenge with homomorphic encryption in AI systems?

Homomorphic encryption allows computation on encrypted data but significantly increases latency, making it prohibitively slow for complex deep neural network operations. This latency penalty makes it impractical for many AI tasks.

How does Protopia's Stained Glass Transform address data security in AI systems?

Stained Glass Transform introduces stochasticity to data representations, making them unintelligible if intercepted while still being usable by the target AI model. It avoids the latency issues of homomorphic encryption by curating stochasticity specifically for machine learning tasks.

What is the significance of multi-tenancy in AI systems?

Multi-tenancy allows multiple users to share computing infrastructure, making it cost-effective but introducing security vulnerabilities. Even in private systems, multi-tenancy within an organization can expose data across different departments, creating security challenges.

How does Protopia aim to balance security and performance in AI systems?

Protopia focuses on minimizing data exposure by transforming data into randomized representations that are still usable by AI models. This approach reduces attack surfaces without significantly impacting system latency, allowing for secure and efficient AI operations.

What is the concept of 'proof-of-concept purgatory' in AI projects?

Proof-of-concept purgatory refers to the stage where promising AI projects get stuck after demonstrating value in a POC but fail to scale into production due to challenges like security, cost, and infrastructure complexity.

How does Protopia's approach differ from traditional encryption methods?

Traditional encryption relies on keys to secure data, while Protopia's Stained Glass Transform introduces stochasticity to data representations. This allows AI models to operate on transformed data without needing decryption, reducing latency and improving usability.

What are the emerging trends in AI that will impact data security?

The shift toward agentic AI, where systems operate independently, will require new approaches to data security. Agents interacting with data across multiple locations and systems will need solutions that manage data exposure in a programmatic and secure manner.

Why is the concept of 'protopia' relevant to AI and data security?

Protopia represents the idea of iterative improvement toward a better state, focusing on minimizing data exposure and attack surfaces in AI systems. It contrasts with the unattainable ideal of 'utopia,' where absolute zero data exposure is impossible.

What role does parallelization play in scaling AI systems?

Parallelization strategies, such as data and model parallelism, are crucial for efficiently using large amounts of compute resources to train and deploy AI models. These techniques help reduce power and time costs, especially for large-scale models like LLMs.

Shownotes Transcript

What’s holding your AI projects back from success? Dr. Eiman Ebrahimi, CEO of Protopia AI and former NVIDIA scientist, takes us on a fascinating journey through the challenges of AI data security and enterprise scalability. Learn how to escape "proof of concept purgatory," unlock profitable AI solutions, and tackle the trade-offs between cost, speed, and security. Plus, discover how the philosophy of Alan Watts can inspire innovation and drive meaningful change in the world of AI.

Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email [email protected]) for sponsorship information.

In this episode you will learn:

  • (02:53) Protopia’s role in AI data security and privacy

  • (11:45) The functionality behind Stained Glass Transform

  • (22:20) Eiman’s journey from NVIDIA to founding Protopia

  • (25:37) Challenges enterprises face with ROI on AI projects

  • (36:40) Multi-tenancy in AI systems

  • (55:37) Stained Glass Transform’s privacy-preserving capabilities

  • (01:09:31) Emerging trends in AI

  • (01:14:55) Alan Watts’ philosophies and their link to entrepreneurship

Additional materials: www.superdatascience.com/843)