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Should Good People Break Bad Laws? with Topher Field

2025/5/7
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Jag: 我想知道，人们是否因为这段经历感到尴尬，或者他们仍然相信这些限制是必要和有帮助的，或者我是否是唯一一个不愿意放弃这件事的人。也许我才是那个怪人，不愿意就此罢休。 Topher Field: 很多人在其他领域都做得很好，但在 COVID 应对方面却犯了严重的错误。承认自己在 COVID 应对方面犯了错误是很困难的。Gina Reinhart 是一个非常富有和成功的澳大利亚人，但我尊重她，尽管她和其他大多数澳大利亚人一样，在 COVID 应对方面犯了严重的错误。成为异议者、站在常识一边，并采取更像瑞典那样的应对措施，而不是我们这里发生的恐慌反应，这是一种孤独的处境。理解这种心理很重要，因为那些相信政府叙事的人认为这是一场百年一遇的疫情，是一个生死攸关的局面。澳大利亚的宣传非常强烈，例如“保持距离让我们更紧密”。当今世界的问题在于“1984”太多，“1776”太少。人们相信“我们正在拯救奶奶”，他们认为自己是团队的一员，正在做正确的事情。在正常社会中，每个人都处于马斯洛的需求层次结构中的某个位置。在 COVID 期间，许多人突然陷入绝望的境地，因为他们无法工作、经营企业或支付账单。那些可以居家工作的人有机会提升到马斯洛需求层次的顶端。大多数人缺乏生活目标，而马斯洛需求层次的顶端是自我实现，即一切都与目标一致，有社区归属感和成就感。维多利亚州州长丹尼尔·安德鲁斯每天都在电视上使用奥威尔式的短语来吸引人们，告诉他们有目标，是团队的一员，属于这里，是拯救世界的好人。安德鲁斯帮助人们提升到他们从未达到过的马斯洛需求层次的顶端，他们将永远无法回到那里。当我们与这些人交谈时，我们不是在谈论政策，而是在谈论他们一生中最美好的时光，他们感到最满足、最联系、最有目标感。

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This chapter explores the psychological reasons behind the continued acceptance of the government's COVID narrative. It discusses how the lockdowns affected people's positions on Maslow's hierarchy of needs and created a sense of purpose and belonging for some, making it difficult for them to accept that the restrictions were wrong.
  • Many people who supported the COVID response find it hard to admit they were wrong.
  • The rhetoric used during the lockdowns gave people a sense of purpose and belonging.
  • Challenging the COVID response is challenging the best years of some people's lives.

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Join Atlas Society CEO Jennifer Grossman for the 252nd episode of The Atlas Society Asks, where she speaks with Topher Field, one of Australia’s leading and most recognized Libertarian political commentators and human rights activists, about his book "Good People Break Bad Laws: Civil Disobedience in the Modern Age."

Best known for his work on the front lines of the protests and pushback against draconian Covid lockdowns in Melbourne, Australia, Topher Field has been awarded 3 times by the Australian Libertarian Society, won 14 awards for his documentary Battleground Melbourne, is the host of The Aussie Wire, author of the book "Good People Break Bad Laws," and is a renowned public speaker and communicator of freedom.