We're sunsetting PodQuest on 2025-07-28. Thank you for your support!
Export Podcast Subscriptions
cover of episode Is the NBA Too Afraid of Football? Plus, Jets Dysfunction and Million-Dollar Picks With Wosny Lambre, Joe House, and Peter Schrager

Is the NBA Too Afraid of Football? Plus, Jets Dysfunction and Million-Dollar Picks With Wosny Lambre, Joe House, and Peter Schrager

2024/12/20
logo of podcast The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Bill Simmons Podcast

AI Deep Dive AI Insights AI Chapters Transcript
People
B
Bill Simmons
J
Joe House
W
Wosny Lambre
Topics
Bill Simmons: 我认为NBA需要帮助,尤其是在赛程安排和创意方面。NBA杯需要改进,特别是观众参与度和比赛安排。我认为NBA过于关注大市场球队,忽视了其他优秀球员和球队,例如SGA。NBA应该更好地利用Giannis的形象和影响力,并更多地推广年轻球员,例如通过奥运会和Netflix等平台。NBA应该更多地关注年轻球员,而不是过于依赖老牌球星,因为收视率正在下降。NBA应该积极应对橄榄球的竞争,而不是一味躲避,例如调整赛季开始时间和比赛安排。 Wosny Lambre: 我喜欢NBA杯的双赛制和场地,但缺乏球迷热情,特别是早期比赛。NBA杯的成功取决于参赛队伍的知名度和球迷基础,例如如果决赛是尼克斯对勇士,气氛会更好。NBA应该学习NCAA的模式,吸引更多球迷到现场观赛。NBA的营销策略过于关注老牌球星,忽视了年轻球员的推广。NBA应该更多地推广年轻球员,而不是只关注老牌球星,例如SGA。NBA应该更好地推广年轻球员,例如通过奥运会等平台进行宣传。NBA应该更多地关注年轻球员,而不是过于依赖老牌球星。NBA需要改进其赛事推广策略,提升比赛的吸引力。NBA应该接受橄榄球的受欢迎程度高于篮球的事实。NBA需要提升比赛的吸引力,让球迷觉得比赛值得观看。NBA应该缩短赛季,并采用循环赛制,以提高比赛的竞争性和观赏性。取消NBA League Pass可以提高联盟的收入,并限制非法直播。NBA需要采取措施打击盗版直播,以保护其利益。 Joe House: NBA杯决赛的现场观感不好,感觉像是在看泡泡赛。NBA杯半决赛和决赛的投篮命中率低,影响观赏性。NBA杯需要吸引更多球迷,提高比赛的观赏性。NBA的比赛安排并非出于恐惧,而是为了避开橄榄球的竞争。NBA赛季应该从圣诞节开始,以避开橄榄球的竞争,并增加比赛数量。NBA应该增加比赛数量,提高比赛的观赏性和竞争性。增加NBA杯比赛数量可以提高强队晋级的概率。NBA需要改进其赛事推广策略,提升比赛的吸引力。NBA的收视率下降并不意味着人们对篮球不感兴趣,而是观看方式发生了变化。现在观看篮球比赛的方式发生了变化,NBA需要适应这种变化。

Deep Dive

Key Insights

What were the pros and cons of holding the NBA Cup in Las Vegas?

Pros: Having two games in one location created a basketball extravaganza atmosphere similar to March Madness, especially as the games progressed and became more competitive. The arena was comparable to other NBA venues. Cons: The lack of partisan fans resulted in a less energetic atmosphere, especially early in the games, resembling a neutral setting like the dunk contest. The finals, viewed on TV, felt reminiscent of the bubble due to the subdued crowd and unclear audio.

Why was the NBA Cup final between the Milwaukee Bucks and Oklahoma City Thunder less engaging compared to a hypothetical Knicks-Warriors final?

The Bucks and Thunder are not national brands with widespread fan bases like the Knicks, Lakers, or Warriors. The lack of passionate fan representation from either team contributed to the less exciting atmosphere.

Why is the NBA seemingly prioritizing older, established stars over promoting younger talent?

The NBA's current marketing strategy focuses on celebrating the outgoing generation of superstars rather than elevating younger players like SGA, Tatum, or Halliburton. This contributes to a lack of compelling narratives and excitement around the newer generation.

Why is the NBA so afraid of competing with the NFL?

The NBA consistently avoids scheduling conflicts with the NFL, even moving popular programs like Inside the NBA and scheduling the NBA Cup semifinals to avoid football. This strategy of retreating from competition, even against less popular NFL matchups, may be counterproductive.

What structural changes could improve the NBA and its product?

Several changes were suggested, including: * **Starting the season at Christmas:** This would allow the NBA to capitalize on the diminishing NFL season and own the sports calendar in February. * **Moving the NBA Cup to February:** Holding the cup during a football lull would maximize its visibility and importance. * **Increasing the number of Cup games:** Expanding from four to six or seven games would create a more meaningful tournament and increase the likelihood of the best teams advancing. * **Revisiting the trade deadline:** Moving the deadline away from Super Bowl week would give it more attention and potentially revitalize player movement. * **Reducing the regular season schedule:** A shorter schedule (60-70 games) would increase the importance of each game, improve player health, and create more urgency. * **Abolishing or restricting League Pass:** This could drive viewers to the league's official broadcast partners and increase the value of live games.

What is the "anchor strategy" for Million Dollar Picks?

The anchor strategy involves selecting a team with a very high probability of winning (the "anchor") on the money line. Then, you combine that team's money line with other teams you like at lesser odds, also on the money line, to create plus-money parlays.

Why are NFL owners different from NBA owners?

NFL owners often come from wealthy families with established businesses, inheriting teams and operating in a detached manner. They prioritize profit and may meddle in team affairs. NBA owners are more diverse, including self-made individuals and those with a closer connection to the game, fostering a different level of engagement and decision-making.

What are some examples of NFL teams with dysfunctional ownership?

The New York Jets are a prime example, with anecdotal evidence of ownership meddling in team decisions, including player personnel and draft picks. Other examples include the Jacksonville Jaguars, where the owner's son is involved in running the team despite other commitments, and the New York Giants, who have experienced a prolonged period of dysfunction despite a seemingly positive ownership reputation.

Who are the top contenders for NFL Coach of the Year?

Kevin O'Connell is the current favorite due to the Vikings' surprising success with a roster of castaways. Andy Reid is a strong contender given the Chiefs' continued dominance despite significant roster turnover and injuries. Other possibilities include Dan Campbell (if the Lions can overcome their injury woes), Sean Payton, and Dan Quinn.

Which NFL team best embodies the "nobody believes in us" narrative for the playoffs?

The Detroit Lions are the prime candidate due to their depleted roster and recent struggles, combined with Dan Campbell's passionate coaching style. Other potential "nobody believes in us" teams include the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, who have overcome a mid-season slump, and the Houston Texans, who are likely to win their division despite a lack of widespread belief in their abilities.

Chapters
Bill Simmons, Joe House, and Wosny Lambre discuss the NBA Cup held in Las Vegas, analyzing its successes and areas for improvement, and debating if December is the right time for the event.
  • The NBA Cup was held in Las Vegas, with the Bucs winning and Giannis dominating.
  • The event had a March Madness vibe with two games in one location.
  • Attendance and atmosphere were lacking due to non-national brands in the finals.
  • There is potential for improvement by involving more partisans and fans from the teams.
  • The event faced challenges due to low shooting percentages and crowd engagement.

Shownotes Transcript

The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Wosny Lambre and Joe House for an NBA Cup exit survey; they talk about what worked and what didn't, whether Las Vegas is the right place to hold this event, some proposed tweaks, and more (02:22). Then, Bill and House run through the weekend NFL slate before making their Million-Dollar Picks for NFL Week 16 (41:24). Finally, Bill talks with Peter Schrager of NFL Network and Fox Sports about a myriad of NFL topics, including a weird stretch of the NFL schedule, Patrick Mahomes’s injury, the possibly undervalued Ravens, COTY predictions, this year's "nobody believes in us" team (01:10:25), Jets dysfunction, the upcoming coaching carousel, Calais Campbell being released from the Dolphins amid a losing season, Netflix's new ‘Aaron Rodgers: Enigma’ documentary, and more (01:41:47).

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices)