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Derek Thompson: Winning Without Anger

2025/6/25
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Tim Miller: 我认为民主党人需要更愿意尝试不同的方法，并在不同的地方提供非正统的候选人。佐兰·马姆达尼的竞选活动非常出色，他充分利用了各种媒体平台，并且他的竞选活动非常真实。民主党候选人需要像佐兰一样，在不同地方展现出真正的德克萨斯或佐治亚特色。我担心民主党建制派会认为安德鲁·库莫是一个糟糕的候选人，而这件事只是一个偶然事件，他们不需要从中学习任何东西。我们需要招募不同类型的候选人，他们要真实，并与选民建立联系。 Derek Thompson: 我认为佐兰·马姆达尼的竞选活动并非关注身份认同，而是关注人们的需求，例如价格、杂货和住房成本。我们正处于一个生活成本的时代，人们对现状的不满主要体现在生活成本上。马姆达尼的竞选口号是“纽约人负担得起”。虽然我对他的政策（如租金冻结和市政杂货店计划）持怀疑态度，但我们都关心让纽约人和美国人的生活更负担得起的结果。人们投票给的是人，而不仅仅是信息。马姆达尼并非愤怒的形象，而是乐观和快乐的，这表明成功的政治模式并非只有愤怒。重要的是，他能够将唯物主义的信息与乐观的态度融合在一起。要解决纽约的问题，需要得罪一些支持马姆达尼上台的选民，我不确定他是否有能力做到这一点。我担心他会受到进步派利益集团的束缚。

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A DSA candidate winning a Democratic primary in New York City is not an ideal laboratory for other Dems to draw lessons from, but Mamdani sounded authentic, he successfully juggled our fragmented media environment, and he had the right message for this cost-of-living moment—as well as the proper amount of party heresy for this anti-establishment age. Meanwhile, the Republican tax and budget bill is shockingly out of step with the affordability crisis we are living through. Plus, the dangers of the coming AI wave, Ozempic may be one of the most astonishing medical breakthroughs in the last 100 years, and would shortening the NBA season reduce player injuries?

Derek Thompson joins Tim Miller.

*show notes *

- Derek's Substack )

- Derek's and Ezra's book, "Abundance" )

- "Plain English," Derek's podcast )

- Tim and Bill on the NYC mayor's race )