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Mark McKinnon and Dan Shapiro: Mid-Wreckage

2025/6/19
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Mark McKinnon: 我认为特朗普的第二任期将会比第一任期更糟糕，而且最终会以灾难性的方式结束。我担心他会变得更加无法控制，身边缺乏有能力的顾问。我认为他支持以色列攻击伊朗的决定是出于他渴望成为赢家并获得荣誉的心理。内塔尼亚胡正在像驾驶卡车一样驱使他。即使成功摧毁了伊朗的核设施，也可能带来灾难性的后果。总的来说，我认为特朗普政府缺乏现实认知和成人监管，这预示着美国将面临困境。为了使美国选民长期保持冷静，他们需要亲眼目睹并经历特朗普政府造成的破坏，这样才能使国家团结起来，认识到政府的真正目的。

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Mark McKinnon and Tim Miller discuss their deep concerns about Trump's second term, focusing on potential disastrous outcomes stemming from his foreign policy decisions, economic policies, and overall detachment from reality. They also discuss the lack of adult supervision within the administration and the potential for catastrophic consequences.
  • McKinnon expresses extreme pessimism about Trump's presidency, predicting a catastrophic end due to his actions.
  • Concerns are raised regarding Trump's potential attack on Iran and the damaging effects of his economic policies.

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Because half the country so desperately wanted Trump back, we may now be on the verge of attacking Iran because the fake peacenik president wants some credit for Israel's military accomplishments against Tehran. Meanwhile, decent, hard-working people are being swept up by his anti-American deportation policy, consumers—and home buyers— are continuing to pay for his boondoggle tariffs project, and even Republicans are getting nervous about his big, ugly bill. Plus, how attacking Iran looks from the Israeli perspective, post-Oct. 7.

Amb. Dan Shapiro and Mark McKinnon join Tim Miller.