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Nicolle Wallace: The Silence of Republicans Is the Bigger Threat

2025/6/24

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Lisa Murkowski

Nicolle Wallace

知名MSNBC主播和政治分析师，主持《Deadline: White House》节目。

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Nicolle Wallace: 我很高兴来到Tim Miller的播客节目。我关注的是接下来会发生什么，以及共和党对法治政治化、对正当程序的漠视以及对无视法院裁决的言论保持沉默，这是最可怕的。我与观众的关系在COVID期间发生了转变，我居家了一年半，观众们给予我的支持改变了我的生活。我关心我所关心的，并与观众谈论这些。有些日子我会生气，有些日子我会悲伤，有些日子我会笑着指指点点。我害怕这么多人正在受苦，我拒绝接受有法定人数希望看到人们受苦。我开始为共和党工作是在加州，我接受了一位共和党人和一位民主党人的面试，共和党人雇用了我。两党的战略家们完全没有区别，他们很容易就能换边，他们进入政界是因为他们喜欢政治游戏。我曾经对人们做正确的事情抱有一种浪漫的看法。我曾经对帕林和关塔那摩感到矛盾，但我选择了保持沉默，让那些为国家付出最终代价的人来发声。如果你没有随着年龄的增长而变得更聪明，并且用两倍的经验来表达你自己的内部遗憾和你所做的不同的事情，那么你就有问题了。特朗普最大的政治弱点是他对事物成本的漠不关心。我重新利用了“最优秀的人”这个品牌，并从那些可能不想上节目的人那里获得了一些智慧。最无能的人对我们来说是更好的选择，因为他们不熟悉情况。 Tim Miller: 我觉得人们害怕邀请Nicolle上播客，是因为她每天要做两个小时的节目，而且她还有一个新生儿。特朗普实时发布虚假信息，而且我也不知道他从哪里获得信息。将特朗普与其他总统进行比较是愚蠢的，将特朗普与他上次担任总统时进行比较是公平的。共和党才是对国家更大的威胁。我关注的是接下来会发生什么，以及共和党人对法治政治化、对正当程序的漠视以及对无视法院裁决的所有言论保持沉默，这是最可怕的。左派在特朗普问题上是正确的。 Lisa Murkowski: 我的首要目标是找出如何才能最有效地为我所服务的人民服务。我认为民主党人也好不到哪里去，他们不仅有自己的问题，而且他们的某些政策我根本不同意。 Matt Gaetz: 盖茨的母亲因为盖茨反对特朗普在中东问题上的干预而斥责他。

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This chapter analyzes Trump's handling of the Middle East conflict, questioning his understanding of the situation and the reliability of his information sources. Concerns are raised about the potential consequences of broadcasting his comments without proper context or verification.

Trump's comments on the ceasefire and his frustration with the involved parties are examined.
Concerns are raised about the source and accuracy of Trump's information.
The discussion highlights the difficulties in assessing the situation and the need for caution in interpreting Trump's statements.

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While Trump and his administration are the ones politicizing the rule of the law, ignoring due process, and annihilating democratic norms, it's Republicans leaders saying and doing nothing in response that poses a bigger threat to our country and democracy. Meanwhile, when it comes to the Middle East, we don't know who Trump is talking to—or listening to. Plus, when Bush 43, McCain, and Jeb pushed for immigration reform, the romantic idealism of Aaron Sorkin, and the sounds of kids and dogs.

(An unfiltered) Nicolle Wallace joins Tim Miller.

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Nicolle Wallace: The Silence of Republicans Is the Bigger Threat