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Welcome back in. Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. The Senate has passed the big, beautiful bill that happened right at the start of the first hour of today's program. It will now go back to the House. End result is going to be passage.
Seems to be, I would say, general happiness over this passing. But also a, I don't know that I've picked up on this before, a demand for perfection in bills the likes of which I have not seen in the past. All bills passed by Congress are imperfect.
Many of them are unfortunately awful, which is why in many ways I would just like less government. I think most of you out there would like less government. Just get out of the way and let individual excellence triumph, which is how you get the economy growing. But this bill, I think, will aid substantially in getting the economy growing. It will provide certainty for
On tax rates, it will further shut down the southern border. It is imperfect, as all acts of Congress are, but I believe the net benefits are very much in a positive direction. Now, for those of you out there that are concerned about government spending, you're right. The government spending is out of control.
There is not, however, the political will to address government spending, either on the Democrat or the Republican side. It doesn't exist. If you argue for it,
in cutting government spending, cutting entitlements, all these things, you don't get elected. And to Buck's point, eventually communists take power and they spend more money and they tax you at a higher rate. So I don't know who the great communicator is going to be that can actually sit down. I feel like in many ways back in the day, some of you will remember this, Ross Perot used to just buy money.
commercial time in 1992 and he had his lectern can't finish
He had his lectern and he had his like a pointer and he would stand there and just make the case as a executive would about how government spending was out of control. I think Ron Johnson is right on this. I think Rand Paul is right on this. We have allowed embedded spending excess to be continued from COVID. I agree with all of it. The political will to address it isn't there.
And Democrats, this is where they win a lot of these arguments because they have established the definition of a cut is actually slowing the rate of growth. I've never heard of this being applied anywhere else. This is really this was true of Republicans in the Tea Party era trying with there was that there was a huge fight and it was about slowing the rate of the increase of spending.
It was about spending less of a, you know, bringing the trajectory of increased spending down just a little bit. A decrease in the increase. Yes. And this was a huge political fight back in the Tea Party days a decade ago. So, yeah, I, you know, I don't want to be dismissive or cynical about it, but usually when I say that it's because I'm about to be. We just haven't suffered enough. People haven't spent enough money.
They haven't seen enough of their grandchildren not living up to the quality of life that they themselves had, or we haven't seen enough money going to paying interest and having that crowd out, private spending. We haven't seen enough of the tax raises that eventually are going to be a part of trying to stabilize this. Or happiness, because we're going into a holiday weekend, and I already have holiday brain going on here a little bit.
Or, Clay, we find ways that AI and productivity and growth are so profound that it's something of a fiscal miracle, right? I mean, we become so productive and so efficient as an economy that we're able to grow our way, if not out of it, grow our way to continued stability with it. That's a possibility as well.
I don't think that that's – there are people who believe that AI is going to be more transformational than even the Internet has been. Think about that for a second. So no one really knows what that means in terms of how much wealth – people think of wealth as zero-sum, and it's not. Now I'm borrowing from Naval Ravikant. He's a very smart guy. Status is zero-sum. Wealth can actually be –
something that is real and that is broadly shared, we are all a lot richer than the richest people were in the 1500s. Why is that? The world has gotten a lot wealthier, not just individuals. Status is a different thing. That's zero-sum.
So I just don't know if we've reached the point. I don't think we have reached the point as a country where we want to tackle the problem. Maybe we want to see if we can grow our way out of it, and that's where we are. So any noise to the contrary right now is unfortunately just that, noise. I think the argument that might cut through from a communication perspective is if you put on 10 pounds of weight every year and then suddenly you only put on 3 pounds,
You're getting fat slower, but you're still getting fatter. And the whole idea that slowing the rate of an increase or slowing the rate of growth as a cut is one of the most pernicious, I think, realities that has been allowed to exist in the way we even have conversation. This is where the left does a better job with language.
Because defining a cut as something that actually leads to something being greater is really what they do in essence. Because what it means is once they get the money spent, they never dial back from the money that has been spent. They embed it. It's also like revenue versus taxes. They don't use the word tax, really. If they can avoid it, they'll say revenue. Because revenue is just money the government has, which is good and goes to investing. That's what they'll also say.
We need to invest more in the following programs because investing sounds good. What they mean is take your money under the threat of fines and or imprisonment and put it into things that the government decides are payoffs for the constituents that they need to pay off. That's what that's what it actually is. But they play games with the language. I said this to Clay offline. I mean, off off air. I'll say it to all of you. It's the same thing we talk about minimum wage.
Minimum wage is economically a flawed concept. It does not work the way it is intended to work. It never has. It never will. It doesn't matter. People like it. And if you say don't pay minimum wage, you know what happens? You lose. So it's very hard. And you could say, well, I'll just convince people, make a better argument.
You can convince some people. Can you convince enough people that the communists who are just going to shout, you're a fat cat, they play the politics of envy, the Mom Donnie routine. Look, this Mom Donnie stuff is, none of this is new. It's the same thing with Bernie Sanders. Did you see Bernie Sanders sitting down with Joe Rogan recently, I might add, talking about the lawsuits that Trump is filing? You know what Bernie Sanders does whenever he's cornered with a stupid argument? He pretends he doesn't know the details.
This is what he does. He does this with economics, too, I might add. Well, you know what? I don't have the facts and the figures on that, so I can't get into it. No, it's because his arguments are trash, Clay. But Bernie Sanders, Mamdani, AOC, they're all doing the same thing, which is ignoring history, ignoring math, and telling people they have a secret sauce, a secret formula that's going to make everybody feel like they're getting enough and they're good enough and everything is fine. It is always a lie. But it's a very appealing lie.
Something that Trump is going to focus on, Buck...
that I'm starting to see attention on that I think could be transformative. Okay, we've talked now the big beautiful bill is eventually going to pass in some fashions, pass the Senate, pass the House. They have to reconcile them, but I don't think it's going to suddenly blow up. There's going to be some form of a bill that passes. Okay, so that is now moving forward in the agenda. There is now, and I think this is going to be potentially transformative, momentum for
to not count illegal immigrants for purposes of the house seats have you seen this this could be hugely important and it's structural and it's massive first of all we need a new census because i think they screwed it up um and it would change the way that the 2028 election map is set up um
because it would mean that even if Democrats won Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, the electoral votes are not there to allow them to,
be able to win 270 to 268. Unfortunately, the electoral college is not going to be shifted. It doesn't appear until after 2030. But what no one talks about that I think Trump could get behind, and this could be really important too, is they count illegal immigrants for purposes of House seats.
And the number is roughly 730 or 740,000 congressmen represent individuals. If you said, hey, we're not counting illegal immigrants at all for purposes of House seats, this would mean that the House was not winnable for Democrats.
They may win the House back in 2026, but structurally, if I were now the Trump team and I were giving them advice on something that I think would be transformative in the illegal immigrant space, it would be let's –
Make it clear that you cannot count illegal immigrants for purposes of redistricting House seats and districting House seats. And this would probably knock at least 10 Democrat seats out of control. Why in the world should these people be counted and it be the case that Democrats benefit overwhelmingly off of people that are not citizens, not them voting?
but just them being counted for census purposes, this means that big cities and blue states that have encouraged illegal immigrants to come into their locations would be dialed back in their impact, and this would have a substantial impact going forward. I think it's one of the big things that I would say, hey, now that we got this done, let's focus on that. Well, it also goes to the perception people have, which I think is, in this case, correct,
which is that the system is rigged. Because if you're a political party that is benefiting from violations of law, you are benefiting in terms of cold, hard facts of power when it comes to leveraging something that is the mass violation, the zero violation of American law. That's not the way the game is supposed to be played. All right. The refs have been paid off. This is a problem.
And and it's as you point out, a substantial one, a big one by the numbers. So, yeah, this is why I keep saying, though, with the big, beautiful bill, the illegals situation. This is why Trump this is the number one reason in my mind that Trump won the election as convincingly as he did. I know there's other stuff. There's a million things. OK, it's always you're taking a snapshot of.
the way that 150 million people decided to click one box or the other. But immigration is the single issue that I think motivated more people to get behind Trump. And this has to start getting fixed right now.
because what we saw under Joe Biden, that is truly unsustainable if you want to consider this to be America going forward. Not in 50 years, in five years. You can't have another 10 million illegals pile into this country on top of the illegals that are already here and think that this is still going to be what we've thought it is. And Clay...
It's already having a huge political effect, as we see. You have all these cities that are trying to thwart federal law enforcement. Well, that's because the political power of the illegal constituents in those cities is huge.
And they know that they have to try and preserve it. We'll take some calls on this. And we'll take some of your calls. We don't have any guests scheduled today. 800-282-2882. You can always talk back. Lots of emails rolling in. We'll dive into some of those because a lot of you have big takes on all of that as well. Clay wants to cut your Social Security, so call in and yell at him.
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Because Clay and I, we're going to have great guest hosts in the next couple of days. So we got only a couple hours left with you guys before we get ready to start our Independence Day festivities. Clay, are you going to be wearing like an Uncle Sam hat while you're grilling your steaks down in God's country of the Gulf of America? Is this on the agenda?
I've got fireworks tomorrow and fireworks on July 4th. Two different fireworks celebrations. Not me setting them off, me going to them. Please don't be that. And this isn't really directed at Clay. It's to anybody. Fireworks are to be enjoyed. They're not to be videotaped.
Nobody wants to see a grainy video of fireworks from a thousand yards away. I'm just throwing this. I'm trying to help you, okay? You might think that I'm grumpy, and that sometimes is true, but I'm trying to be helpful to everybody. Enjoy the fireworks with your family. Like, be present for it. Have you ever seen this? When you go down to the fireworks, it's like everyone's at a concert. Everyone's got their phones out videotaping the fire. Be present.
Be present for the fireworks. You don't need to share the fireworks on Instagram a million times. It's okay. I think in general, we could eliminate 90% of all videos for public events. What I think, and I'm not an expert on this, clearly, because my kids are not all fully grown, but I think what you would mostly like to have is your family on
on video, your kids on video, so you can go back and remember when they were five years old or three years old or 15. That's very nice. Of course. I have no problem. I take photos of my little baby and Carrie and the dog all the time. I'm talking about people that think, look at the fireworks, and they had their phone up in the air, and there's like 1,000 people all on the beach or 1,000 people all gathered, and everyone's got their phones out videotaping the fireworks. Just watch the fireworks. You don't have to videotape the fireworks.
Okay, get off my lawn. Anti-firework videotapes is very funny. But yes, it is rare that you see a fireworks display that's so spectacular that everybody's going to be like, wow, I can't believe this. It does not translate to your Instagram or your Facebook page. I promise you. No one's like, oh, look at the fireworks on that Facebook page. All right, Jerry in Wisconsin, save me from myself. What's up, Jerry?
Hey, fellas. Good to speak with you. Three-time Trump voter here. But I have to say I find myself more in the Rand Paul, Ron Johnson camp on these issues. I think part of the problem, and I'd like to hear your viewpoints, obviously. I think part of the problem is the way this all got rolled out. You know, we were in this...
Doge environment where we're closing down agencies and we're letting federal employees go and we're finding ways. And very much they were leading the public to believe in Republicans. I think that this was critical and it needed to be done.
And we needed to tighten our belts. And then suddenly, here comes the big beautiful bill, and you start hearing about all the content, and it's a complete antithesis of where we just were. And I think this is a frustration for a lot of Republicans, and I think that, as you guys noted, maybe the will isn't there to actually address that. But if the will isn't there now, then why?
Where do we go with this, right? Jerry, I'll give you a shorthand on this just because we're going on break. It's one thing to have a great conversation with somebody. When someone says, you know, I really want to lose weight, you encourage them. Everyone's great. Everyone's on the same page. It's fantastic. When you tell them to put the third donut down the next day...
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Trump down with Ron DeSantis at Alligator Alcatraz. And when they got off the airplane, Trump directly addressed something that I was discussing. And we've been talking about this program for years now. That is how the census counts illegal immigrants. And he said he believes they should address it. Listen here. Cut four. Cut four.
There's going to be a new bill called Make American Elections Great Again. I love it. Forcing the U.S. Census Bureau to redo the census to actually get an account of how many Americans with proof of citizenship are in our area, in our country, redistricting some of the House districts. Your thoughts on that? Well, I'll speak for both of us. We love it. You're going to like this one. I know all about it. We want to bring our elections back.
The election in 2020 was rigged. Millions and millions of votes. It had to do with COVID and a lot of things, but it really had to do with the crooked people. The Democrats are very good at cheating in elections. And that's why I said too big to rig. They tried this one, too. But after about 902, they gave up too many votes. You know, too big to rig. I do think that increasingly.
As you've seen a lot of people suddenly say, hey, you know, it did turn out Biden didn't have the mental and physical capacity to be president. I think a lot of people are looking now that we've had three Trump era votes at the 81.3, even Democrats at the 81.3 million votes that Joe Biden supposedly got in 2020. And they're saying that's no way that's real.
I mean, just it's like steroid era baseball where, you know, you suddenly had was a Brady Anderson hits 50 home runs or whatever the heck it is. There just is no way based on all the metrics of the Trump era, because what they tried to say was, well, Trump just uniquely provokes a lot of votes against him, too.
No, doesn't really work. When you look at the math, the math doesn't add up on 81.3 million for Joe Biden. And it's funny the way Trump addressed it now. Yes, he's back president. And the ultimate reality is Trump is this is the kick in the teeth, far more effective right now as president than he would have been if he won in 2020.
Now, there wouldn't be the same amount of mess because the border wouldn't have been open. I don't think we'd have a war in Ukraine. I don't think Hamas would have invaded Israel. The world would look very different. But Trump would not have had a majority in the Senate or the House necessarily to be able to undertake what he did. Here we have some cheery news about this. I think it ties in.
to just how much Republicans are united behind Trump in this administration. This is from the CNN data guy. This is 18. Five months into his term, this is what it's looking like by the numbers. Play it. So we're going to look at the strongly approved numbers. So this isn't just Republicans who like Donald Trump. This is Republicans...
who love Donald Trump and he's up like a rocket. Look at this. In July 2017, the strongly approved was 53%. That's pretty good. But look at where he is now. 63% of Republicans strongly approve of the job that Donald Trump is doing about 50%.
five months into his presidency, Republicans love Donald Trump the way that Americans love Disney World. The bottom line is 63%. That is a huge, huge base. And of course, it's just part of a Republican base in which about 90% of them overall approve of him, including the somewhat approves as well. 63% love Trump. 90% plus support Trump.
Republicans feel the way about Trump that Americans feel about Disney World, Clay. It's a pretty big deal. Yeah, and there's a second one there, too, that also just kind of brings this up. This is why I do think
Social media is great. You and I use it. We like to get messages out there. I think the idea that it is in any way reflective of the larger world is often not true. And I think left-wingers have learned this because it led them completely off the reservation. I think sometimes getting worked up about what seems popular on social media, this was true, I think, of Trump's decision to bomb Iran. There was a lot of talk about it.
There's about 20% of people who disagreed with that that voted for Trump. That's fine. People don't always have to agree. But if you had been just watching social media, you would have thought it was far more popular than it actually was. And, Buck, this cut 19, Trump is more beloved by the Republican base than any base has loved any Republican president ever.
Maybe ever, at least in the modern era of polling. Listen to this from Cut19. We have all the presidents, Republican presidents, going back over the last 35, 36, 37 years. What are we talking about? GOP, who strongly approved five months in. Look at this. George H.W. Bush, Bush 41, 46 percent. Bush 43, 59. You see Trump, the first term, 53. But look at this, 63 percent. He beats all the other Republicans.
on the board here, and I was looking even back since Reagan, and get this, Donald Trump beats Ronald Reagan when it comes to the strongly approved five months, and of course Reagan was coming off that high after that assassination attempt. So the bottom line is Donald Trump is making history with the Republican base. He is more beloved by this Republican base than any Republican base loved any GOP president five months in. It is history-making.
I mean, that's pretty extraordinary to be more popular than Reagan. I mean, you know, we're talking about... He said, you know, Reagan coming off the additional support for him after the assassination attempt. Yeah, like what Trump had, too. I think we don't even take that... People just...
It never gets talked about. Trump took a bullet an inch from the base of his skull, and he's just gone on like it didn't stop him one bit. It hasn't shook him at all. It's a remarkable thing that Donald Trump, and it's never even talked about in the context of political violence and how passions need to be tempered now or anything. No, no, no. Donald Trump survived.
survived two assassination attempts. One bullet went through his ear. And yeah, he's the most beloved figure by the GOP. I mean, I think it's
very likely almost a certainty. Now, no one can predict the future, so maybe we get invaded by aliens and the whole world blows up. Who knows? I don't mean illegal aliens. I mean like outer space UFO type aliens. But I think that Trump is going to end up being the most beloved Republican president of anyone's living memory, including Reagan. I think that's almost inevitable.
I think we've said this, but I'm going to keep hammering it home because some of you are going to be stunned when you see the pivot. Trump is Hitler. Trump is Hitler. Trump is Hitler. Trump is Hitler. Right after the midterms, it's going to be
republicans are never going to be able to replace trump the greatness of donald trump the politician oh for sure for sure that's where that's it is inevitable it is inevitable i'm just telling you guys 2027 the argument is going to shift to there never be another trump there's no way that they're going to be able to replicate his vote totals he's one of the greatest politicians ever i'm democrats not you i'm saying democrats are going to be making that argument of course uh
I also a lot of what we tell you here on the show is going to happen happens. I'd say our prediction rate, you know, elections can be tough, although we did nail this last election, nailed it. Predictions can be kind of tough.
with elections. But general predictions, I think we have a pretty darn good record. If we go back and we give our post-mortem if we miss it, we told you that it was just a matter of time before Governor Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump were hugging it out and everything was fine.
And that it was just going to be a bruising primary and DeSantis supporters and DeSantis people, etc. We're all going to be welcome in MAGA again, and they're all going to be working towards saving the country. And I think most most people on the right understood that. Some people said, no, no, if you DeSantis people will never be allowed back in MAGA. DeSantis will never. OK, well, here's Donald Trump.
speaking with Ron, to Ron, and to the country. Play 24. Ron, I'd like to thank you personally. You are my friend, and you'll always be my friend. And we may have some skirmishes, even in the future. I doubt it. But we'll always come back, because we just seem to... We have blood that seems to match pretty well. We have a relationship that's been a very strong one for a long period of time, and I appreciate it. Clay, he also went on to say... Trump went on to say...
about his relationship with Ron DeSantis. I think it's a 10. Okay, maybe 9.9. But we have a great relationship. I think it's a 10.
Okay, so we told you this would happen, and some people doubted, and I'm just saying, here we are, and sure enough, Ron and Trump high-fiving, loving each other. Ron's the best governor in America. Trump's the best president in our lifetime. And yay, the good guys are... We had a lot of people calling in, like, I'll never vote for Trump. I'm not going to vote. Ron, you said these people were.
All the time. All the time we took it. We took it like champs here, Clay. People, oh, anybody who, like Ron DeSantis, has betrayed Trump. No, no, no. Because there was some heat there. People wanted us to break the Rush rule. Remember? Rush never endorsed once ever in a Republican primary. Refused as a matter of principle to do it. People, you better endorse. You better endorse. In Rush's house, I don't think we're changing Rush's rules.
And sure enough, Trump and Ron, hugging and out, he said, Trump said relationships at 10, maybe a 9.9. Okay? I mean, Clay and I hang out for three hours a day. If I can say our relationship's a 9.9, that's pretty damn good. I would agree. Heck, if you could say your relationship with your wife or husband is a 9.9, I bet most of you couldn't, by the way.
But if you could say that, that's a pretty good sign. By the way, this is funny as we get ready for the break. Trump standing in front of the alligator Alcatraz prison said, Biden wanted me in here. He's having a lot of fun. I think the humor of Trump is really coming out. His confidence is at an all-time high probably as president. Listen to Cut 23 here. Hey, Biden wanted me in here. He wanted me. It didn't work out that way, but he wanted me in here.
Biden wanted me in here. The video is really funny of Trump standing in front of the prisons at Alligator Alcatraz. I don't want to be a bummer. I don't want to be a bummer. I agree that Trump's having a great time. He loves being president of the whole thing. When we went and saw him in the Oval recently and saw him and Caroline Leavitt and J.D. Vance came in and the whole thing, it's like,
I just the energy in this administration is is so positive and and just so there's just such a sense of destiny to it all. It's incredible. I do, though, just take a moment. I mentioned a second ago Trump survived an assassination attempt. A five five six bullet went through his ear, could have gone through his head, could have changed world history and been a horrible tragedy and torn the country apart. So, you know, I I don't want to dwell on that, but I think we need to keep that perspective.
I think that Joe Biden or his handlers pretending to be I think he would have let Trump go to prison if they could have pulled that off. I think if Biden forget about the the debate and everything else, if they had been able to get a conviction of Trump and the Supreme Court did not step in and Biden won reelection.
He would have let Donald Trump go to prison. I absolutely believe that. I do not think Joe Biden has the character or the decency to have stepped in to prevent that, again, on the federal level where it would have been his prerogative as president. I think that's true. In the original sin book that I'm reading, that everybody is angry at me for reading, there's regular revelations that Biden really expected Trump to go to prison and was looking forward to it, based on private conversations inside of the White House.
That actually is real. I mean, that doesn't surprise me at all, but that is an interesting revelation from that book. You know what, Clay? You'll send me your copy so I don't put any dollars in it. I'll bring it next time we're in person so you don't have to buy it. I'll give you my copy to read. It's an easy read. No, but that goes to who Joe Biden is. That really does go to who Joe Biden is. Joe Biden's a scumbag. He's not a good person. He never was. And you know, I've been saying that all along.
I was telling the stories here about how he lied about the culpability of the other driver when his wife was killed because it gave him political advantage. Clay and I have talked about how he was sworn in in the hospital room with the kids. And, I mean, he's not. Plus, also, the staffer that allegedly he sexually assaulted who came out, it's an entirely credible allegation. The woman worked for him. I mean, it's...
Nothing about Joe Biden mattered other than he was part of their will to power. They didn't care. But he's not a good guy. He's not a good guy. And I think everyone now will admit that. So anyway, that's really interesting that he wanted to. He did. I knew that, Clay, without you telling me that. And yet here we are. He would have sat there and let Donald Trump rot in a prison cell over nothing.
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We got a whole bunch of things that we need to dive into, Clay, coming up. Trump calling out Mamdani. Mamdani. I'm sorry. Mamdami. Is it Mamdami? No. How do you say this guy's name? Mamdani, I think. Mamdani. That's right. Mamdani the commie.
And, yeah, Mamdani, there you go. Trump's saying, you know what, we don't need a communist. And I agree with that. I think that's pretty clear. We do not need a communist to be running America's largest city. And for anyone who's going to say, oh, but he's not really a communist, he's not really a... Have you guys heard some of this stuff? Here he is, I've got to get to this, where did it go, saying that they're going to turn... Okay, this was in 2021, Clay. Here is Zoran Mamdani saying,
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That's real commie stuff right there. Just so everyone's clear. I mean, that's like communism, communism. That's not even like, I'm a democratic socialist from Sweden. No, that is the government stepping in, buying property, and turning it into collective ownership situations, communes, where... Can you imagine what a hellhole it would be? Like, it's bad enough the city of New York operates project housing, which is city-owned housing that they then...
And, you know, it's heavily subsidized and people pay. But the city controls it. Could you imagine what communal housing would be like, Clay? Like it's just owned by people who live in the neighborhood. You know what I mean? By and large, it always fails. It's commune style. They've been trying to do that since the 1960s. I don't know why there's not more discussion about this. You know what would help to lower rents in New York City massively?
fewer illegal immigrants. I mean, this is just basic economics. If you have fewer people trying to buy an asset, then the overall cost of the asset goes down. I'm surprised there isn't more discussion when it comes to housing costs about what having 30 million illegals at least-ish costs.
in the country does to the overall housing market. New York City in particular. Imagine if you got rid of likely a million or more certainly illegal immigrants. That would make the people that are actually legally here probably have to pay less for their homes. We'll talk about that more next.
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