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Welcome in our number three Monday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We hope all of you are having a good start to your 4th of July week. If the traffic is any indication, a lot of you are on vacation right now celebrating the 4th of July on the road. As we talked about earlier, if you are driving as I was this weekend, you are fortunate to have the lowest gas prices in four years.

The lowest since the summer of 2021. And that is because gas prices overall are continuing to lower. In fact, prices in general begun a significant decline since Donald Trump came into office when it comes to gas, when it comes to eggs, when it comes to general cost of goods. So there is much to be excited about.

We've got several different stories that I thought we could have some fun with. Right now, I can barely...

even opened my phone because I wasn't even planning to give out my top five cities until you blew my mind, Buck, by saying New York City is still the number one city in America. Injured reserve, injured reserve. It's coming back. It's got a torn ACL right now, and it's in the rehab process. But unfortunately, if they go mom-dommy, it might turn into a torn ACL, and they might have to look at amputation because this is not going well, maybe a torn Achilles tendon too.

but a bunch of different stories that are out there that I think are worth diving into. We talked about the big, beautiful bill. We talked to Senator Ron Johnson about that in hour one, encourage you to go download the podcast, make sure you don't miss it. And you can go back and listen to the first hour, but,

There are several stories I want to get into here. But let's start with this because we were just talking about New York City and I do think this factors in. There's just so much lying. AOC in particular has been claiming that she is from the Bronx. She is, oh, you know, she's got a district that partly encompasses the Bronx and she tries to talk. She's been fighting with Donald Trump online and she bragged about being a girl from the Bronx.

Was it, what is it, I'm still Jenny from the block? Where was Jennifer Lopez from? Jenny from the block in the Bronx. Yes, indeed. So AOC is trying to lean into, hey, I'm just a girl from the block. I'm a kid from the Bronx who grew up and made good. The problem is...

As soon as she started making this argument, a bunch of her former classmates in high school spoke out, including sharing yearbook photos. And it turns out, and Buck, you can speak to this better because you grew up in New York City, but I can speak to it a little bit.

I went to school on the East Coast in Washington, D.C. at GW, and there were tons of kids from Long Island, and this is not going to shock any of you. I had never even heard of Long Island when I went away to college.

I didn't know it. I knew Manhattan existed. GW is basically a satellite campus of Long Island. Yes. Everyone at GW and the time that I was there, every girl that I met was from a different town in Long Island. There were basically three places that everybody who went to GW was from that I had no idea really even existed. The main line area of Philadelphia, where all the rich kids in Philadelphia grow up,

Long Island, which is evidently a really populated place that I had no idea existed. Remember, I'm a kid from Nashville. Long Island, why would I know Long Island existed? And Westchester.

So Westchester is like Scarsdale, New York. Everyone is from Westchester, Long Island, and rich areas of Philadelphia that went to GW 20 years ago. I think they've expanded now, and they have rich kids from L.A. and rich kids from Chicago. I think GW is the most expensive school in the country. I was a scholarship kid, and a lot of these areas I had no idea existed. So my point on this is,

it turns out that AOC grew up in actually a pretty nice neighborhood in Westchester County this is where the Clintons live in Chappaqua right am I know it's Chappaqua yes Chappaqua New York okay I said that right uh again and uh and Scarsdale and all these areas Buck you can speak to this the difference

between growing up in the Bronx and growing up in Westchester is pretty seismic. She's lying about her background to try and seem like she is more of a working class, even poor kid growing up than she actually was. But I think for people who don't know the geography, this hasn't necessarily cut through until now when she went after Trump bragging about being from the Bronx.

Well, this is where you get into a little bit of New York City lore and geography. The Bronx is one of our esteemed New York City boroughs, one of the five, and it has some areas that are rough, particularly the South Bronx.

Area around Yankee Stadium, roughly speaking, has been very high crime for a very long time. But there are parts of the Bronx that are actually very high income and quite safe, like Riverdale. Riverdale, where the Riverdale School is, is also technically in the Bronx.

So even the Bronx is not, ooh, I'm from like these hard streets or something. But to be from Westchester is not even in the sort of general milieu of what she's suggesting by the Bronx. Westchester is overwhelmingly a upper middle income state.

to very, very high-income suburb of New York City. We have a lot of Westchester listeners, by the way, that commute. I mean, it's a beautiful county, but it's where you move. I know, I'm not throwing shade. Yeah, it's where you move if oftentimes you have kids and you don't want to live in a crowded apartment and you want to have kids that can go to good school districts and you don't want to live in New York City. To give you a sense of it, she is further from the city than Sleepy Hollow.

like the legend of sleepy hollow, uh, as in headless horsemen countryside or whatever. She's North of sleepy hollow up at Westchester. So she is not really in the, uh, the whole I'm from the Bronx thing is, is a fabrication is, is a falsehood is silly. And, and so I think again, it goes to the degree to which lies will be told now. Um,

And it's actually, I think, registering in some way with AOC. And this sometimes gets exploded as a story. Remember the crazy dude who lost, who pulled the fire alarm? He was in a district that also ran partly into Westchester and

he ended up getting beat. What's that guy's name? Not Jerome Powell, who's the Jamal Bowman. Jamal Bowman, yes. Jamal Bowman ends up losing, and it's that disconnect between a somewhat wealthier and...

and highly educated group compared to where they try to argue that their base is. So anyway, I just think that's interesting. Here's another story that is out there that is, I think, something that you and I agree on, but I haven't heard hardly anybody else say it. The jury has now got the Puff Daddy, the Diddy case,

for all of the allegations that were brought against him. Multi-week case. The jury is now deliberating eight men, four women. I think, Buck, that there's not going to be a conviction here. And you agree with me. I've been following this case pretty closely. I think the government failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt their case. Not that Diddy's a great guy or that I would want him dating my sister or my daughter or something like that.

But I don't think they proved beyond a reasonable doubt that he is guilty of the very serious charges that they brought against him. This thing has gone to the jury. Maybe we're going to be wrong, but I do think that there would be a lot of shock if he's not convicted. I'm just telling you guys and gals out there who may not have paid as much attention to it, it would not surprise me at all if they failed to get a conviction. They...

They went for things that I think reasonable doubt is going to be

Too easy for some of the jurors to lean on. I don't think that the sex trafficking charge is going to be something they're able to get him on. And so this is... No, look, the guy's a bad guy, and there's no question about it. There's no defense of Diddy, the person going on here, or of Sean Combs, the person. It's just, it seems to me like the... Well, maybe we're wrong. I shouldn't... Maybe the prosecution nailed him and he's going away for a very long time. But I would...

I would not bet on it based on this. And I just, I'm not even, I mean, you went to law school. I'm not even a lawyer. I didn't go to law school. But I have been around cases and charges and things like that because of the time at the NYPD. And I look at this one, I'm like, this is not a strong, this is not a strong prosecutorial move. I think I could be wrong. And if I'm wrong, I'll come back. Maybe the jury just hates him. It might just be what, what was his name? You know, Professor Emeritus from Harvard, you know.

Came on our show. Dershowitz. Dershowitz, thank you. Maybe the Dersh is right when he says, look, he's just such a scumbag, they're going to find him guilty, and then he'll be overturned on appeal by an appeals court. That may be the way this goes, too.

But nothing about this to me, says Slam Dunk, because they've got all the text messages and all the stuff from women who continue to be with him and say they're being coerced, but they're traveling with him on private jets and still being intimate with him and everything else. That's a tough one to make stick for a juror.

He could go away for life on this. It's not like a civil case or something where he's just paying a big judgment. He could go away for the rest of his life. Well, they had him dead to rights on drug and gun charges, which is why I'm surprised they didn't just go straight drug and gun. They folded that in as the RICO. I don't understand why they did that. To me, they had him dead to rights on drug and gun charges. I think they probably wanted to put him away for longer than those charges would have reflected. But ultimately, this case...

comes down to coercion versus consensual adult sexual conduct.

Essentially, I'm trying to boil it down. And I just don't think there are eight men sitting on this jury that are going to say, yeah, these women either dated him or lived with him for a decade or more. And now they're saying, oh, I'm a victim. Again, I'm not saying that he's a good dude or that he's 100% innocent. But I don't think he's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt based on all the evidence.

To the everyman, and that's what a jury is, right? It's not to the everyman. You know what racketeering is? A bunch of organized crime thugs saying you're paying the protection money or I'm going to break your kneecaps, right? That's racketeering. Like that people can understand. You're running this organized criminal enterprise with the threat of violence.

Did they charge Sean Combs with racketeering? It's weird. When you sit here, you go, why go for the racketeering charge? I think they whiffed.

Because people hear that, they go, hold on a second. So he's like the mob guys who are threatening to break kneecaps, but he's inviting people to parties and being a sexual deviant, but they're willingly doing it, and he's not putting a gun to their head and making them do it? How is that racketeering? Basically, he's a super rich guy who engaged, to your point, on...

Indefensible behavior in many ways. I mean, he hit a woman, which is a crime, but the statute passed on that. So the video violence of him in the hotel where he punched or shoved... Oh, he beat the crap out of Cassie on a video at the Intercontinental Hotel in L.A. I mean, that's a crime, and that's assault, and he's a bad person for doing it, but they didn't charge... We're looking at the legal system versus...

what's justice here, right? And the legal system isn't going after him on that. I don't know. We'll see. You know what? I hope I'm wrong. I hope we're wrong because you and I see this one the same way. It's more fun when we can argue. I don't see this one differently than you. So we'll see. I hope we're wrong and that they nail him, even though part of me is like, if they're nailing him, I think they're doing it because he's a bad guy, not because they actually believe he violated the statutes as presented. If I were on the jury, I would vote not guilty.

because I don't think they... Now, I don't know that you're going to be able to get 12 people to vote not guilty. I think it's more likely that there are a couple of holdouts. I don't think 12 people are going to say not guilty. That's how I would vote. And a lot of times the pressure people are... They do the jury poll and it's 9-3 guilty and...

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We got a call coming in from Janice in Oklahoma City. Janice, congratulations to your Thunder for their big win over the Pacers in the NBA Finals. What's going on? Well, there is only one first NBA championship, no matter what the team's name is. And our team is a young team. And we brought the Seattle Sonics.

down from Seattle, and it only took 17 years to make it happen, but we made it happen. All right. So you're fired up about my rankings.

No, well, two things. I mean, Oklahoma is a solid red state. Yes. Oklahoma City's done a lot of improvements. We've also got great places to eat. The owner of the Thunder is also the CEO of Sonic Drive-In, if you want a hot dog. And I just...

Can't pass up coming back. How's crime in downtown Oklahoma? I have no idea, by the way. I'm asking with no, I don't know what your answer is going to be. I'm just curious. Is Oklahoma City pretty safe? Yes, very safe. Nice. That's good. Okay. I appreciate the call. Congratulations on the NBA title. Oklahoma City, I modified my rankings because it is a bit confusing. I said you have to have two major pro sports franchises.

Because there are a lot of cities now, you know, you could go to several cities in North Carolina. You could go to Jacksonville. There are a lot in Oklahoma City, Memphis, which is not unfortunately going to be anywhere near my top five. But there are a lot of cities with one pro sports franchise.

And so I have broadened it. Like Green Bay, Wisconsin would theoretically be in the running because the Green Bay area has the Packers. So I said two. So you have two pro sports franchises.

And that limits it probably, I don't know what, to 35 big cities because there are lots of what I would say is middle tier cities that are in that roster. My top five, Nashville, Phoenix, Miami, Salt Lake City, Houston slash Dallas tie.

I said you have to have at least a red state vote for President Trump in 2024. This is a very specific ranking you're going to get to. Well, because otherwise, you dove into Charleston. Charleston's a great city. No pro sports franchise. So I'm trying to limit it from 100 cities or 200 cities to like 35 big cities.

And in the meantime, I'm going to tell you, maybe you need some energy. Maybe you're looking around and you're like, it's Monday? I got to make it to the 4th of July this weekend? Do you know how late I'm going to have to stay up? My wife's complaining. I got dinner tonight, 7.30. We got dinner tomorrow, 8.15. She was like, what am I, 20 years old? I said, you need to get a little bit of sleep. Maybe you need to take a nap because it's a little bit later. I understand. We got dinners.

And maybe you need a little bit of chalk. And maybe you're out there right now and you're saying, oh my God, I'm going to chase the grandkids. I'm going to chase the kids. They're going to have like a bike decoration contest at 7.30 in the morning. There's going to be people out with leaf blowers all over the place. Maybe you need a little bit of energy because I'm going to get woken up early because of the bike...

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The data on who people would support. And I just feel like I should make a public announcement here. Mayor Pete was the leader. Okay. I just came back from Traverse City, Michigan. I think Mayor Pete has moved to Traverse City. He had a good choice there. I saw that people are saying, oh, look, he started following the UFC. Our buddy Jesse Kelly had a tweet about that. Here's the deal.

Mayor Pete is the leading Democrat projected favorite in 2028 right now. He gets 0% of the black vote. 0%. I feel like we need to make a PSA to Mayor Pete. Maybe in 20 years, you can be the Democrat nominee.

Black dudes are not voting for a white guy who is gay. You have a 0% chance of actually being the nominee. Remember when nobody would talk about this? He was having a great campaign. He did well in Iowa. He did well in New Hampshire. White Democrats love Mayor Pete. The fact that he's gay might even help him.

Black people, black men in particular, they're not voting for a gay white dude. He cannot. We went to South Carolina. His entire campaign collapsed. He went across the South, all the black people in the South voting in the Democrat primary.

gay white dude, I don't think a gay black dude would do well. I don't think a gay Hispanic guy would do well. I don't think gay people are going to be supported by most black voters. But a gay white dude is definitely not. So what does Mayor Pete do? He's got all these aspirations to be the next president of the United States, and nobody else will even address this on the left, because that would require you to acknowledge that the most prominent bits of homophobia are

are actually from black voters in the Democrat Party, and nobody will even address it because that requires them to honestly assess what's going on here. Should we just tell Mayor Pete he has no chance of being president? Maybe he could be vice president.

But he's not going to win Democrat primary because the black base will not vote for a white dude who is gay. I don't think they would vote for a gay guy, period. But I do think that this is a funny thing. To get 0% of the black vote is really, really funny to me. And yet he was still the leader. Although there also won't be any effort to...

push on this push back on this uh from the the democrat powers that be i mean they're not going to say they're not going to try to uh strong arm if you will the uh members of the black community into voting for mayor pete you know you're not going to see you're not going to see pushy lectures on msnbc about this which i think is also interesting um so just just put that put that aside for a

Notice how quickly the whole Kamala situation has faded, too, as a possibility for the Democrats going forward. As I've said all along, she's going to be a provost at a second-tier UC school. Just give it time. She cannot win. They know she cannot win. She's a horrible politician, and that will become more apparent as time passes. I think that that's why the Mamdani situation, Clay, is interesting, because it's an indicator of Democrat base

base sentiment right now which is very strongly with aoc and bernie sanders you do not see anybody who is a more centrist democrat catching fire again with the democrat base i'm not talking about how they would even do nationally but you have to win a primary before you'd get further and you also want to know who the biggest voices are in the democrat party going into the midterms

And they're leftists. And the ones that still get attention are Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, AOC. What centrist Democrat, and I say centrist in quotes, but, you know, more mainstream Democrat is getting, that's not even the right way to say it. I'm not even sure, you know, purple state Democrat, maybe you could say, you know, somebody who operates, someone like a Gretchen Whitmer, who operates as a governor in a purple state. They don't get any attention right now. The base is not excited about them.

And I think that that's likely to likely to continue. So, yeah, Mayor Pete is not going to become president of the United States. It's it to me that what the data shows you is that there is the fact that he is the leader of the Democrat Party in terms of choice right now for nominee.

is actually just proof positive that there is no leader of the Democrat Party for the nomination right now. It's totally an open field. Also, has there ever been a leader of a party that has done less in his life than Mayor Pete? I mean, he was the mayor of South Bend, Indiana. He was a disaster of a transportation secretary.

I'm not sure that we've ever had a less accomplished person than Mayor Pete. He's still only 42 or 43 years old, I think. He's a young guy. But yeah, he has zero chance of actually being the nominee. You mentioned Gretchen Whitmer. I'm actually reading the original Sin book. I know, I know, I know. Clay...

I am reading the original Sin book. I did find this interesting. The book, they say that Kamala, you know, the public reporting was that it was that Biden decided he was going to pick a black woman. And so there was a lot of discussion about who the black woman he would pick would be. They actually say in the book that Gretchen Whitmer was the runner up for Joe Biden in the 2020 decision making. If he had picked her,

She would have run as a much better contender when they had to bump up the VP than Kamala did, right? Huge mistake. She would have won Michigan, unfortunately, because I think she's been a bad governor. But she is very popular there. And so go with Michigan, probably. So go with Wisconsin, I think. So it would have been very tough. Would have been very tough if she had been. Kamala was...

It would be hard to find a worse choice than Kamala Harris, given the way that it all played out with Joe Biden. That's what I mean. It really was. What did she bring to the table? I mean, California machine party machine politician. I know a lot of black. All she brought was black women.

Which theoretically we're going to vote Biden anyway. But that's the calculus. I mean, it was the ultimate identity politics calculus. The same reason, sadly, Katonji Brown Jackson is on the Supreme Court. They eliminated 97% of all lawyers, basically. I think black women are 3% of the overall, 3 or 4% of the overall legal profession. And they picked her.

And so she is nowhere near the most qualified Supreme Court justice. I think similarly, Kamala was nowhere near the best choice that Joe Biden could have made, even when he said, I'm going to pick a woman, which I think was a was a poor choice to say like, hey, I'm eliminating half of all the contenders, because whenever you give the criteria, you delegitimize whoever you pick. Right.

Because you're not saying I'm picking the best person. You're saying I'm picking the best woman or I'm picking the best black woman. You're automatically making it clear that they're not the best contender by delegitimizing them publicly in playing that identity politics game. But I think Gretchen Whitmer, if you go back in time, if Biden makes that pick,

Then when he steps down, she's a far better candidate than Kamala would have been. Well, I do like that. And this, I'm sure, comes across in the book that you're reading, as unfortunate it is that you are helping to pay the Tapper industrial industrial propaganda complex. But that's fine. That's fine. I'm glad one of us is reading. At least one of us can reference it from having actually read it.

I'm sure this comes across. There's an assumption, I think, that a lot of people have that the other side, meaning the Democrats, are always a step ahead and they're so smart and they're so crafty.

Joe Biden was a dementia patient and he was dumb before he had dementia. And he's making a lot of these decisions. Sometimes they just make dumb moves. Yeah. And with Joe Biden, they made a lot of dumb moves. And Biden himself, I should say, made a lot of dumb moves. There were things that he did that were not it was not for DHS. It was a blunder. And they paid the price for it in this last election in a big way, as they should have.

Totally. And I do think it's interesting because Gretchen Whitmer is going to think of herself as a contender in 28. Wes Moore is going to think of himself as a contender in 28. A lot of these governors, Josh Shapiro, are going to try to stay away from the Washington mess.

and run as outsiders in 2028. Meanwhile, Trump's walking around right now, this is cut to, saying, it's only taken me six months, but I'm turning things around and kicking ass and taking names. Play two. Have you been able to digest what has occurred?

occurred in the last seven days? Not really. It was pretty wild period of time. And I really think in six months, we've taken the country and turned it around. It was told by the king of Saudi Arabia, by the leader of Qatar and the leader of UAE when we went over there, we brought back $5.1 trillion investment into the United States. They said,

You know, you're presiding now over the hottest country in the world. And a year ago, we thought your country was dead. It could never come back. It was so incompetently run by a very bad president. And I said, you're right. This country is hot.

This country's hot, Clay. It's doing great. It's very exciting. No doubt. And I think that's one reason why everybody should be excited as we get ready for this celebration of July 4th. Everything, even if you're a crazy left-wing Democrat, Trump's making decisions that are actually benefiting you in terms of the direction of the nation.

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which was largely attuned to some of our largest markets where we are the number one radio show for three hours each day. So I do like that aspect of it. But some of you, very fired up about Mr. Clay's list. I will say that our friend Will Kane had me on his show on Friday, Clay. I know you go on there all the time. It's a lot of fun to do Will's show. But the question was, best movie of the 21st century.

We should debate this tomorrow before we get out. Of the 21st century. Why don't we kick that to tomorrow? Because I got weighing in from all of our team in New York. I want to hear your... The New York Times ranked these movies, right? The New York Times ranked them, right? And I want to poke some people on this because I think that you fall... I haven't even looked.

to big movie propaganda. So, Clay, think about the best in your mind, the best movie of the 21st century. By the way, 2000 doesn't count. That's still 20th century. So Gladiator is out. So here's the other question. We'll talk about this tomorrow.

What do you mean by best? Is it one that you... No, greatest is actually the designation. And see, I took it as the movie that you love the most, that means the most to you. If you're just reviewing it as a... Like, what is the most perfect film? Like a work of art or something that you could watch multiple times? No, I'd go the second one for this exercise. Meaning the one that you... If it's on, you're watching it, you love it. You'll watch it. Anytime it's on, you think it's fantastic. So...

That's the stat. I agree with that categorization. We'll get into that tomorrow. Yeah, otherwise I'm like, oh, The Pianist, The Lives of Others. These are amazing films, but you're not going to watch them a hundred times. Some of these movies I've watched a hundred times. I just love them. Yeah, like Schindler's List, you aren't going to be like, oh, I can't miss this. That's a perfect example. Right? You can say that's the greatest movie. I don't think I know anybody who's seen that movie more than once.

It's an amazing movie. I just don't know people that have sat through it more than once. It's a tough watch. Yeah, I mean, it's depressing. A lot of great works of art films are not fun, right? Like, you feel worse in some way about the human condition when you finish, as opposed to, like, I watched the Harry Potter movies with my kids this weekend. I hadn't seen them in a long time. They're really fun and really good, and most of the time you feel pretty good about them by the time they finish.

Let's take some of these talkbacks and some of these calls here, especially because people are yelling at Clay, which is always entertaining. D.D., William from San Diego listens on KOGO Radio. What's up? Hey, Clay. William here in San Diego. I disagree with your city rankings. I think San Diego is number one, America's finest city.

San Diego is fabulous, Buck. Here is the challenge on San Diego, and you guys in San Diego can correct me if I'm wrong. I don't trust...

Blue City, Blue State combos. So I eliminated Blue City, Blue State. I'm not willing to live in them. I think you have too many restrictions. I think your obstacle course has too much stuff thrown up into it now. Well, look. LA has to be in consideration. You can't just say, oh, LA is not in consideration because it's a blue city and a blue state. I like LA. I've spent a lot of time there. I like San Diego. I'm not willing...

These are places that I would live. You can't just rank somewhere on like, oh, I'm going to go there for a weekend. That's different. Like, where's the best place to go for a weekend trip? Where would I live? Where would I raise a family? I'm eliminating blue city, blue state. I think that's significant.

H.H. Don from Tampa listens on WFLA radio. Play it. OK, now you have to include the Tampa Bay area. You got the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the Lightning and the Rays. Now, Clay, I I do not know Tampa well at all. I'm a Floridian who do. I think I've been to Tampa once in my life.

And I was a kid. I don't really remember it. And as a Miami person, I'm just saying we get a lot of anti-Tampa propaganda floats around Miami. You know what I'm saying? It's a little bit like a Boston, New York thing. But I want to go spend some time there. So I can't, again, I can't weigh in on the greatness of Tampa because I haven't spent enough time there. But I love our audience there because it is robust. I don't dislike Tampa. I like Orlando more than Tampa.

And that's going to be a little bit. Look, there are a lot of really nice parts of Orlando. Now, they only have one pro sports franchise. So I eliminated Orlando from my rankings. Tampa's got some really seedy parts. I want to get to Jerry in Houston because he's calling out something that I think needs to be called out. Jerry in Houston. Let's hear from him.

Yeah, Clay, you need to get off the fence there, brother. Dallas and Houston are two separate cities. You need to pick one or the other. Quit busting Buck's chops for not even coming up with five when you added actually six.

Yeah, thank you, Jerry. Clay with the ultimate fence sitting. I love the Houston-Dallas Metroplex. That's nonsense. Okay, if I have to pick and break the tie, I'm going to pick Houston because Mark Cuban doesn't live in Houston.

And Mark Cuban lives in Dallas. I picked Houston because I love Houstonians for making us number one for three hours every day in that market. And Michael Berry, the greatest lead-in we could possibly have on that radio station right before us. So that's why I love Houston. Well, look, my sister lived in Houston before.

And I was really impressed. People were like, oh, in the comments, they're coming after Houston in my top five. And by the way, Salt Lake City does have two pro sports franchises. They have a hockey team now. So they got the Jazz and they've got the, what I think they call them, like the Utah Hockey Club or something like that. They moved from Phoenix. All right. I mean, your five list is not bad. Three out of the five, I think I got a co-sign off. We'll come back to this tomorrow. Scottsdale best...

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