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Passed on a 51-50 vote. The big, beautiful bill. J.D. Vance had to be the tiebreaker on that one. Tom Tillis, Rand Paul. Who was the third? Somebody else. Oh, Collins didn't vote for him. So, yep, that was what happened there. Now, thank you, Clay, for the catch. It goes back to the House side before it goes to the President's desk for signature votes.

The House is going to... There's going to be some squawking from the Freedom Caucus about it. I don't think they're going to sabotage the Trump agenda at this late moment on the big, beautiful bill. But they're going to... You know, look, they're allowed to have their say on it, and they will. So that will be a thing that occurs in the next few days, and we're probably going to get to a signature before the holiday. Hopefully, that is how this will go. So that's the big news. And then we have the...

Most interesting visit of the day was Donald Trump going down to Alligator Alcatraz, which is in Ochopie, Ochopie, Florida, which is near Everglades City, which I can tell you is not really much of a city. It is really middle of nowheresville. I think Ochopie.

It has 100 people, something like that. It is unincorporated territory, so it's not even, I think, a township per se. It's quite small. But that was the one, if you were wondering, it wasn't Lake Okeechobee. I know Lake Okeechobee. Ochopee was the new place. So that's where they have this airstrip.

That is a place to put illegal migrants, illegal aliens before they are deported.

And Trump is saying if you try to run from the Gators or swim from the Gators, it's going to be a bad day for you. So there's all that going on. And then he got into Kami Mamdani. Do you have anything in the alligator Alcatraz? The team is saying that all you have to do is be able to not zigzag, but outrun the nearest person to you, which is always true. And that is mean. That's very mean. Clay would Clay would not leave me behind to get eaten by Gators. Right, Clay?

Correct. Correct. I would be, um, again, I I've said on this program before, I am prepared to save anyone from an alligator attack. If you see me near a swamp, I've got your back. So, uh, just don't go in the water. Um, but if they come out of the water, like in crocodile Dundee, I know that's crocodile versus an alligator. Then, uh, I'll be like Mick Dundee right there to, uh, to protect you. Um, by

By the way, that movie also still a lot of fun. If you've got kids and you want to watch some movies during the July 4th holiday, weather's not great. Maybe you're sitting around. We've been watching all the Harry Potter movies in the Travis household and they're still really good. So props, JK Rowling. I think she may have a future in this creative industry space. But that alligator Alcatraz thing. And I think, I know we said it last hour, but I do think it's so important that

Trump and DeSantis are a whale of a team. And I know Ron DeSantis only has, whatever it is, a year and a half left, basically, as the governor of Florida. But I would not be surprised if DeSantis ends up in some form or fashion as a part of Trump 2.0 cabinet. And what I mean by that is,

Doing these jobs takes a lot. So far, we have had pretty great stability in Trump 2.0 cabinet universe, but at some point, some of these guys, probably after NGALs, after the midterms, are going to start to say, hey, I want to do something different. I'm burned out. Two years of going full speed, doing X, Y, or Z. There's something else that I want to do. It wouldn't shock me if Trump comes back to DeSantis. Remember, there was some talk

about DeSantis potentially being the Secretary of Defense when it was uncertain about whether Hegseth was going to be confirmed. And that's another example of J.D. Vance breaking a tie 50-50 in the Senate. J.D. Vance gets the vote to get Hegseth in, and Pete has done a very, very good job since. This is also an example in the big, beautiful bill. You've got J.D. Vance breaking the tie,

This is why having a little bit of a buffer in the Senate, 53-47, man, it would be great to be up to 54 or 55 or 56 as it pertains to where we're headed on next. But the Trump-DeSantis relationship, very strong, and I think it's important to point out that by and large,

Most of you out there who voted Trump, I really can't hardly point to anything in the first six months and say, hey, I think Trump could have done a better job on this. Politics is the art of the possible. So I understand that people are saying, oh, this is my number one issue and this hasn't been addressed completely to the ability that I would like.

You can't make people do what there is not the political will for them to do. So you and I, Buck, we talked about this some earlier, we're very troubled by the national debt. When the Tea Party got its start, national debt was $10 trillion. National debt is soon going to be $40 trillion.

That's untenable. But until there is a political will to address it and you can't solve it by increasing tax rates, that doesn't work. Ultimately, I think you're going to have to dial back spending. This is inevitable, but that political will is not there yet. So in the meantime, you have two options. You can either whine and complain, and some people are choosing that because it's not kick your legs, scream like a child.

have a temper tantrum, or you can do what you and I are talking about now. Hey, this bill is going to pass, and now it's time to try to figure out how do we grow the economy as rapidly as we possibly can to help to lead to a surplus through growth as opposed to a surplus through cuts. That is the new hope, and to me, if we can get it to 3%, 4% growth, everything changes.

Yes. So that's the that's the case for optimism. And I agree with you on that. The case for optimism is not that everyone's going to see the wisdom of Ron of Iran. Sorry, Rand Paul's math and and make massive changes to the biggest spending programs and priorities of the United States government now and for the last, well, all of our lifetimes. So, yeah, that's not going to happen.

So hopefully Trump just has the economy so juiced and so en fuego that some very good things can happen. What will make things a lot worse is if the commie Mamdani is able to take control. Trump spoke about this. There's some Marine One noise in the background. We wanted you to hear this. This is cut seven. This is look, even President Trump's win. And we all see this. This is concerning when somebody gets the wind at his back in some someplace as Trump.

as New York City. Play it. I think he's terrible. He's a communist. The last thing we need is a communist. I said there will never be socialism in the United States. So we have a communist. I think he's bad news. And I think I'm going to have a lot of fun with him watching him because he has to come right to his gun to get his money. And don't worry, he's not going to run away with anything. I think he's a... Frankly, I've heard he's a total nut job.

I think the people of New York are crazy. If they go this route, I think they're crazy. We will have a communist in the for the first time, really a pure, true communist. He wants to operate the grocery stores, the department stores. What about the people there? I think it's crazy. Yeah, Clay, it is crazy.

And I understand that there's this sense that it's limited to New York, but AOC and Bernie Sanders...

They co-sign really all of this stuff, and they're the Democrats that have the most currency with the base, and it is a Democrat party that came within a few hundred thousand votes of Trump, even after lying about Biden's dementia and putting forward the worst candidate in our lifetime in Kamala Harris. So, I mean, I would argue even worse than Dementia Guy, which tells you a lot. So we have to take this seriously. People ask, how does the Democratic Party come back

It's not hard. They were close even in this election in aggregate numbers. When you really look at it, there are a lot of people who are voting Democrat, no matter who they put forward, no matter how crazy the ideas and Mamdani, I think, is just a symptom of that larger malady. And again, I'm going to keep hammering it.

If there is not a coalition that arises to all come together to oppose Mamdani, if you have Eric Adams running as an independent, Andrew Cuomo running as an independent, and you have a situation where Curtis Sliwa is the Republican, that trio is going to assure that Mamdani wins.

So the only way New York City rejects Mamdani and has some form of sanity in terms of who it's selecting as its next mayor is if there's a understanding that they cannot all run and there is a coalition of opposition that comes together to try and defeat Mamdani.

My concern is everybody's going to look out for their best interest, meaning we're going to get more attention if you stay in the race and everybody else loses. And there isn't a coalition brought together to come against him. And I think what Trump is talking about in general is that the opposition that he sees from all these sanctuary cities, as

as the process is underway to deport so many different people, is a direct opposition to the federal government and should not be acceptable. And at some point, I think there's going to have to be a test case of someone, probably a mayor that is one of these sanctuary cities that is directly defying federal law,

And we're going to have to have the courts rule about whether or not that is permissible or appropriate, because I don't understand...

And we made this argument, and the Supreme Court has said it quite clearly. The president of the United States is in charge of border-related policies, immigration, all of those things. How can we allow all of these individual cities, and certainly governors of states, but it's really being driven more by mayors of cities that have decided that they are sanctuaries, how can we allow them to directly defy federal law, etc.?

At some point, that conflict is going to have to be resolved in some way by the larger court system. It feels inevitable to me. We'll get some calls and some talkbacks coming up here in a second. I want to hear from all of you before Clay and I sign off for the holiday. Like I said, Tudor Dixon and tomorrow.

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I don't really get to the beach very often, which is weird considering I live next to one of the nicest beaches in America, some would argue, for an urban beach. For an urban beach. Okay, don't be like, well, what about Tahiti or what about, you know, the Seychelles? One of the nicest urban beaches anywhere in the world. So, yeah, I should get to the beach too. We'll talk about it. Take some calls, 800-282-2882.

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I think that broke up a little bit, or at least it broke up a little bit with me. He wanted to know if we saw the General Lee from Dukes of Hazzard jump the fountain in Kentucky. Yes, and it was awesome. Super cool. Did you watch Dukes of Hazzard when you were a kid growing up?

I was a little young for it. My older brother, I think, used to watch that show. Who's your age? So I was a little young for the Dukes of Hazzard. I loved the Dukes of Hazzard back in the day. My favorite show. Dukes of Hazzard led into on CBS Dallas.

And I would say the first real massive disappointment of my young life was when they tried to replace Bo and Luke Duke. I just remember being a kid and so disappointed that those guys, they were in a contract dispute. And they replaced them for part of season five, I think. And it was earth shattering for young. I remember I was a big Knight Rider guy. Oh, I like that too. Did you have the Knight Rider? Did you have the car? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Kit that could talk back. That was pretty awesome. And now here we are at a place where the car actually can just drive up and pick you up. I have friends who have had their other Tesla just come in and and, you know, get them. They can actually do that. They can summon it. Yeah. And look, I talked about being in the way, Mo. And if you want a prediction for 20 years from now.

I think driving cars is going to end up like riding horses, something that people do for fun but that the average person no longer does. I would bet on that in 20 years. Jordan, in Oklahoma, what you got?

Hey, Travis. I just got two quick questions here. One is Syria. Why is Trump lifting the sanctions off of Syria and taking them off the terror sponsor group? And also, what are Kash Patel and Dan Bongino doing about 2020, COVID, Epstein, January 6th, and the Biden auto pen? And a friend of mine, John, wanted me to give you this quote. I believe in two things absolutely, the First Amendment and boobs.

Well, I like the last one. There's a lot of the FBI. The answer to all that FBI stuff is we don't know because they're not talking about everything going on there. And at some level, it's just give, I would just say give Cash and Dan, the director and deputy director of the FBI, give them the time necessary to do more of what needs to be done there. It has only been five months.

It is early in the game. And what was the first thing that he said? The Syria answer is he's trying to give that new government an opportunity to prove that they can be allies. And I think if you look at it in the bigger picture of the Middle East,

Given how tough he has been on Iran, he is currying favor, again, politically, with Saudi Arabia, with the UAE, with Qatar, with Bahrain, by both carrot and stick. Obviously, the stick for Iran, the carrot for Syria. If that new government can somehow be better than Assad, he's giving them an opportunity to try to prove that they're worthy of trust. And...

So far, it does appear that that's been going better, but it's still very early in that new government. This is very important. This is a DD talkback. Jill from Oregon, let's hear it.

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Put that one in your cone there, Mr. Clay Travis. I still believe that pistachio is not a top 20 ice cream flavor. You have to say pistachio. If you call it pistachio, it makes it sound even worse.

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I was trying to explain to my friend just like why most of America doesn't even care about the deportations that are happening. And he flipped out on me and was saying that I needed to admit that I hate every other race other than my own. Anyways, so in the end, they're just totally brainwashed and there's nothing you can do. The law either matters or it doesn't. It has nothing to do with race. It has to do with being a rule of law society, Clay.

Yeah, and look, I think that a lot of people are dialed out and just randomly buy into all of the histrionics. I mean, I think a perfect example of this is, you know, we're going to hit right now. The stock market is up again today for another high. It was only two months ago that they were telling you that everything was going to collapse.

and that you needed to make sure that you sold all your stocks and that we were headed for basically a nuclear winter and from an economic perspective, and it just hasn't happened. And so I think the total fear there is it works on a lot of people, and they are aware that emotionally they can play on people's failings as it pertains to that, basically. We have next up here...

A lot of Lord of the Rings nerds in this audience. Oh, we didn't get, we said we were going to do the movie thing. Yeah, that's what I thought. I was doing my research here. New York Times best. Now, this is a little bit of a frustration because people don't pay. It's like when you had a teacher that said, make sure you read the instructions for the exam before you take the exam. It's the best movies of the 21st century.

So anybody who's jumping in with Braveheart, which I love and would be my overall choice, overall favorite movie of all time, that's 1998, I think, or 6, or I forget when, 9? I don't know. But it was definitely...

In the 20th, 20, 2-0, 20th century. 21st century. Best movies of the 21st century. This is the New York Times list that came out. We got a producer. I got all of you to tell me your picks. And I thought they were pretty solid. And when I say all of you, I mean our team in New York. New York team, let's start with you. Ali, producer Ali, what was your best movie of the 21st century? You had time to think about this, so you're on the hot seat now if you forgot. What is it?

Oh, no. I'm totally on the hot seat. I had gone with Gladiator, but I had the years all wrong. Yeah. Gladiator came out. Hold on. Gladiator. 2000. Yes. It counts in the New York Times list. It does? Because that's technically the 20th century. They have it down at 92. So they are counting anything that's 2000 and beyond. Okay.

Well, that's an outrage, first of all. The fact that they're counting it and they're putting it at 92 is an outrage because, Ali, it would be a top fiver for me, top fiver for sure. They put Parasite at number one, a foreign film, as the best movie of the 21st century, which I think is mad. Producer Mike, what was yours? You had a good one. Dark Knight? Were you Dark Knight or was that Greg? What does Producer Mike say? Dark Knight.

Dark Knight, yeah, he was Dark Knight, solid. I can't quibble with that. I have watched that movie probably a hundred times. I enjoy the Dark Knight. He really brought back, people think now, oh, the Batman franchise, huge franchise. That was, it was on the ropes after a couple of really bad Batman movies that bombed big time.

including one with, I think, the girl from Clueless was in it, Alicia Silverstone. There was a George Clooney. No one even remembers George Clooney played Batman. And it was such a bad movie that people don't even remember that he was Batman. So The Dark Knight came back from that. Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, both great, great options. Remember, 21st century we're looking at. Clay, what was yours? I broke it down trio, meaning, because to me there is...

There's a difference between a kid movie, there's a difference between a comedy, and there's a difference between a drama. So I went with, I agree, the whole Christopher Nolan Batman trilogy, The Dark Knight, that is really phenomenal, well done.

Up, I think, was the best of the Pixar movies. Up is so well done. And then I think the funniest movie of the 21st century, I think, is Old School. I just think it is absolutely hysterical. Well, that's not even a category. Now you're making up categories.

Do you think Old School is the funniest movie of the 21st century? What's funnier than Old School? I mean, I think 40-Year-Old Virgin is funnier than Old School. 40-Year-Old Virgin is very funny. Superbad is very funny. There's a series of four or five movies, I think, that you could argue. I think the combination of Will Ferrell, Vince Vaughn is tough to beat. Wedding Crashers, also really, really funny and well done. But I think you have to consider what...

Again, best doesn't mean Citizen Kane is a phenomenal movie. We talked about yesterday. Schindler's List is a phenomenal movie. It's hard to sit down and just be like, hey, let's have some popcorn and watch Schindler's List. Well, this is like how I feel about the pianist. P-I-A-N-I-S-T, to be clear. The pianist is a, or the pianist, maybe some people say it that way,

uh is i think a perfect movie meaning it is incredibly well done and every aspect of it from the acting to the writing to the to the sounds you know to the soundtrack to the i think it's a perfect movie but it's intense it's world war ii yeah it's you know it's a jewish guy who's trying to flee the uh you know the at one point it's his neighbors and the nazis and

The Pianist is an incredible movie, but I can't say it's my favorite movie because if the Dark Knight trilogy or the Lord of the Rings movies are on, I'm watching those instead of The Pianist. I'm not going to lie and be that guy, which brings me to, I think, Producer Greg, what was your pick? You didn't give us your... We're trying to help you, by the way, for the holiday weekend, everybody. If you haven't seen any of these, we're giving you great recommendations for...

I would argue The Lives of Other is a pretty perfect movie, although it is German language, and that is 21st century. But again, you still haven't even watched it, have you? No. You and Laura haven't watched The Lives of Others, and you have, okay, maybe that one, because it's foreign language, I could see Laura being like, Clay, don't torture us.

You guys haven't watched Hacksaw Ridge, which is insane. Because I gave you that assignment a long time ago. That movie is wild. To be fair to me, I barely see anything. I watch stuff with my kids, which is why I've been watching Harry Potter. You watch hundreds of hours of college football. Hundreds of hours. That's what I was going to say. And I watch a lot of sports. Let me give you an underrated movie that I think seems even more...

contemporary than it was when it came out minority report sudden no i'm telling you go back and watch it now in an age of ai it seems eerily prescient in terms of its foreshadowing of where we are producer greg is going to weigh in he was a he wanted to get on this producer greg best movie of the 21st century if you were making this new york times list what's number one

Dark Knight. I'm with Producer Knight. Oh, you're Dark Knight. I thought we had Double Dark Knight. Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker is the best bad guy performance ever.

That I think you could, it's that, it's the no country for old men with, what's his name? Bargain, Javier Bardem. Javier Bardem. Javier Bardem and Hans Gruber in Die Hard, which was the first time that guy was ever in a movie, which is still amazing. Does watching The Dark Knight, knowing that Heath Ledger was going to in some way kill himself,

I watch it now, and you're right, the performance is incredible, but when I watch it, in the back of my mind, I'm thinking, in order to become this good, he had to go to such a dark place that it felt to me... A lot of people who are actors and actresses, it's not actually that talented. You know what I mean? There are lots of people who are whatever. He

Heath Ledger, that was actually an artistic performance as the Joker, but I think it led him into a world where his brain almost broke. He went into the darkness too much. That has happened with people that get too into a role. A lot of people, very high, because I saw a lot of comments about this, because I was on with Will Kane and Carol Markowitz on Will's show on Fox Clay, and that's where this got...

A lot of people have as their top movies. I would say the ones that I saw the most, for all of you out there, I'd say the one that I saw the most as a number one choice was either There Will Be Blood or No Country for Old Men for Best Movie of the 21st Century. I view those as both...

excellent movies, but it also goes in that category of there will be blood for me is like watching a master class of acting. Obviously, Daniel Day-Lewis is phenomenal and the performances are, but do I care about anybody in this story really? No. Do I like anybody really? No. And then I think that unfortunately, No Country for Old Men, again, very well made. And I'm not saying it's not a good movie. I'm just saying,

If it's on, am I going to watch it? It's so bleak and kind of nihilistic for me. So I can't get too excited about either one of those as a top 10 of the 21st century. They're both excellent movies, to be clear, but they're not movies. I've only watched each of those maybe twice, which for me is not very many.

I also, to me, when it's a book being made into a movie, I think the excellence of the movie in many ways reflects the book. And Cormac McCarthy is probably the greatest author. Now I'm really going to get people fired up. Probably the greatest author of the last...

30 years and I know he died a couple of years ago, but if you look at his production In terms of his talent and you go all the way back He moved eventually his fiction to basically the border with Texas and Mexico But he started off as a Tennessee based writer And I think he's probably the most talented writer in America in the last 30 years. I

And so no country for old men is a novel by him. And I think it just reflects the world that he created on the screen. And, uh,

is actually an illustration of his excellence as a writer more than it is as a film. Does that make sense? Like if you said, hey, The Great Gatsby, which it isn't, and it's been made multiple times, most recently with Leonardo DiCaprio, if you said The Great Gatsby is the best movie that's ever been made, I would be like, well, it's...

phenomenal novel and so to me i strip out anything that isn't an original movie as a great movie does that make sense because it's a reflection of of the of the book more than one talk back here before we get into more talkbacks and calls to close us out a a podcast listener zeb from texas play clay and buck this is zeb from texas love your show listen to you every day since y'all took over

for Rush. Ditto, maybe. Hey, listen, I'm so disappointed that y'all would question Producer Greg after he's led you right so many times. Minas Tirith is the capital city of Gondor after Osgiliath was destroyed by the orcs in the Battle of Sauron. Trust your man. This is the nerdiest thing that has ever been said on the show. I love that we have listeners who clearly have

a 12-gauge across the backseat of the car, have a Stetson on and cowboy boots, and they're lecturing us about Minas Tirith as the capital of Gondor after Osilius, of course, was destroyed by the orcs in the Battle of Sauron. That is our Texas audience rolling around in a pickup, ready for any javelinas they have to take out, but you get Lord of the Rings wrong, and they're dropping knowledge on you.

The correction yesterday that I read is the nerdiest thing that's ever been said on the show. That talkback and Buck's analysis of it is the second nerdiest thing that's ever been said on the show.

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or Wednesday and Thursday, and then a best of on Friday for the 4th. Do you have any spectacular 4th of July plans? What are you going to do? You mentioned you might go to the beach, which is delicate for your easily sunburned skin. Be careful. True. I'm probably going to take naps, read books, walk my dog, and hang out with my wife and baby. I'm a wild man, Clay. I'm a wild man. That is going to be fun. It's going to be... I'll be on with...

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