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Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in, my friends.
Monday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton show appreciate all of you hanging out with us I am still in Washington DC for the next several days at our iHeart studios here much to discuss Buck
is in Cannes, France, on the French Riviera. Right now, I believe, as we speak, it would be, what, about 6 p.m. over there. And it's actually interesting why he's there because it speaks to the growth of the show, but also a lot of advertisers suddenly clamoring to be on this show.
And so he is meeting with many of the biggest brands in America that have suddenly realized, hey, these guys talk to a huge population all over the country. And I've made jokes about this before, and we're going to get into a lot of serious things, but it is somewhat funny to me that we've been doing this show for four years and
And not one car company has ever advertised on this show. Not one restaurant has ever advertised on this show. Not one beer has ever advertised on this show. Not one liquor company has ever advertised on this show.
And then suddenly you're finding out, oh, by the way, they all should be. And you guys have a lot of money to spend, and you do go to restaurants, and you do buy cars, and you like to watch sports and movies and everything else that...
the general swath of America would be all about. And so suddenly everybody is clamoring to buy ads on this program. You'll probably start to hear it. I was with, we had a great event down in Palm Beach for all of our advertisers a couple weeks ago. And the guys at PrizePix said, yeah, you're the best advertisement that we have bought in the history, basically, of PrizePix. So you guys sign up.
up uh you guys uh respond and we know all of our advertisers we love them but there's a lot of different directions that all of that is headed but that is where buck is so he is going to be on the french riviera there's probably some good ai memes that you guys can create of buck advertising on the french riviera with all of the big wigs at iheart but that is where he is going to be i will be with you solo entirely this week so let's dive into everything that took place good time
To be in D.C., lots of different news taking place. Over the weekend, I thought we saw a very crystallized version of the way in which you see the world and the way in which, to a large extent, you see the country. And in particular, that was surrounding the military parade that took place here Saturday in Washington, D.C., and I thought was compelling.
I thought it was historically resonant when you saw all of the different Army uniforms throughout history. It felt to me like somewhat of a walking distillation of a Smithsonian Museum, which if you have been to Washington, D.C., you have likely toured. I spent Father's Day and Happy Father's Day to all the great dads out there.
and all of the people who are helping to raise the next generation of young men and young women all over the country. And the importance of dads, I think, probably drastically underrated. I may dive into that a bit during the course of today's program. But I spent Father's Day with my 17-year-old. He just finished his junior year in high school. We went to the Air and Space Museum. That was what he was really excited to do.
And and so we were just there like a lot of dads and moms were with their kids walking through the the exhibits. And I was particularly struck by the Orville and Wilbur Wright exhibit in the Air and Space Museum.
Because to me, those guys represent the essence of American ingenuity. You had so many people out there for hundreds of years, thousands of years, saying, boy, it would be really nice to know what it's like to fly in the clouds, to be able to look down on the world like a bird does.
And many of us take it for granted. I'm still kind of surprised. My son is one of those who doesn't take it for granted. But the number of people who get on an airplane and immediately close the window and have no interest whatsoever in looking out, that's a view that for thousands of years would have been the most impressive thing that any human ever saw.
And yet many of us take it for granted every single day the ease with which we can travel around the world and the views that we have, the bird's eye view. I still like to look out the window when I get on planes, when we're landing in cities and there's a cool view that, again, for thousands of years, every human would have dreamed of knowing what it actually looked like to be up that high in the sky. And Orville and Wilbur Wright...
These bicycle shop guys in Dayton, Ohio decided, hey, you know, I know everybody else in the entire history of humanity has failed, but we think we can design a flying machine. And they did it. And it's really a remarkable story. And I don't think it's one that gets talked about enough, but I've been thinking about it a lot in the context of the dual marches that we saw taking place over the weekend. And
What really stood out to me as I looked and read, and you can actually stand and I took a picture of it like many people do, the original plane that they took that they flew in the early 1900s. And just think about how rapidly we evolved in our pursuit of flight and then to a large extent how it just stopped.
And I thought it's an interesting metaphor of American ingenuity in general. So in the early 1900s, the Orville and Wilbur Wright creation of the airplane leads to a massive change in our ability to traverse the country and the world.
Lindbergh flies across the Atlantic, becomes a huge star. World War I and World War II leads to the rapid evolution of aircraft.
In 1969, we go to the moon, which obviously is also quite well chronicled in the Air and Space Museum. You can see the landers there. My son was super impressed. I hadn't been to the Air and Space Museum in 25 years probably. So you're walking around there. Think about that. In the space of a normal life, you could have been born where there were no airplanes and
And you could have been alive when we walked on the moon. That's pretty staggering when you think about it. My own grandfather was born in 1905 and he died in 1990. And the trajectory of his life, now he never got on an airplane, which is crazy.
Interesting. I mean, my grandparents never got on an airplane. They had eighth grade educations from coal mining country in Kentucky, came down and worked. My grandfather did his whole life at DuPont. But you could go from not even ever seeing an airplane to watching on television as we set foot on the moon. Then what happened?
Think about it. I was walking around the Air and Space Museum on Saturday, Sunday, sorry, Father's Day. And I was talking with my son. We basically stopped. Now we're trying to go back to the moon. Human progress doesn't move necessarily as rapidly as we think when we go back and study history.
We basically have been frozen in time since about 1969. Some of you listening to me right now, I wasn't born until 79, but you will remember watching on television as we walked on the face of the moon. And probably in 1969, if you could take yourself back to the way that you felt on that day,
If I had asked you, hey, what's going to be the case with American exploration by the time we get to 2025? I think if you consider the Wright brothers starting in early 1900 and by a little bit over three generations later, we were walking on the moon. I think if I had told you three generations from being on the moon, you would have thought that we would be living in space.
You would have certainly thought that we would have been to Mars. You would have thought that we would have been to many of the different planets in our solar system and maybe beyond because you would have expected for there to be a progression. Didn't happen.
Now, I understand some of you may say, well, the overall cost of space exploration, what do we gain from it, all those things. Well, I think having a majestic vision for the future of America has to encompass space travel in some way because it expands the horizon of human possibility. And I was thinking a lot about that because there were two stories, I thought, that were being told
on Saturday in this country. One was Trump trying to make America great again by celebrating the great 250-year history of our army and what they have accomplished since they were founded in 1775. The other was a protest against Trump saying,
We can't have kings. No kings. That was the newest rally. But the reason we don't have kings is because of the military, because the Continental Army defeated the greatest power in the world in one of the most tremendous upsets in the history of the world. And then in an even bigger upset, we didn't return to a kingdom.
George Washington voluntarily gave up power, which has basically never happened in the history of the world. If you remember your history, they compared George Washington to Cincinnati because they had to go all the way back to ancient Rome to even find power.
A man in position of power who didn't insist on his children taking over, who voluntarily relinquished that power and allowed others to rise to the highest position in the land. And so no kings actually should have been a celebration of what we saw of the military parade.
All of the people showing up in cities to celebrate no kings should have been showing up in Washington, D.C. to celebrate our military, which ensured that we did, in fact, have no kings in this country and that every four years we can pick a new leader. They don't see it. They don't make the connection. I'm going to play you some cuts. I was watching the reaction. I just felt so sad.
For all of those people showing up at the No Kings rally, they've been listening to legacy media. They have no real knowledge of what's truly taking place. And I was thinking about all this as I walked through the Air and Space Museum. And do you know who the modern-day Wilbur and Orville Wright is? Elon Musk. We have been, who helped to get Trump into office, we have been living in many ways in a stagnated technological universe.
for much of my life and for many of your lives. And suddenly the horizon of possibility is exploding. Autonomous vehicles trying to go to Mars. The creation of brand new spaceships. I'm going to go to break here in a sec, but my son asked an interesting question as we were walking into the Air and Space Museum. He said, why is it called a rocket ship? It's actually a really good question. I never really thought about it.
A ship on seas is very different than a rocket plane, which is really what the rocket ship is. And I said, I bet it derives because people saw the rocket ship as an extension of the exploration era, which was fueled by ships. And so we don't call it a rocket plane, which actually would make a lot more sense, right? We call it a rocket ship.
Because the pioneers who discovered the world and mapped it did so on ships. And my guess is someone was smart enough to say this is a rocket version of the ships that allowed us to see the world. They're going to allow us to explore the universe. Sometimes words become so common that you don't think about where they derive from. So anyway, I spent a lot of time thinking about all of this as I was walking around our nation's capital over the weekend.
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Space exploration, the future, how I saw it connected to the military parade as well as the No Kings protest. But I also thought it's sad. I don't know how many of you saw the videos. Many of the people at the No Kings protest looked like super old NPR listeners.
just poorly informed. Here is a 74-year-old woman who was at the protest telling a reporter how scared she is. She doesn't understand how anyone could have voted for Trump. This is cut one. I just, I just, I'm just so scared. I'm 74 years old. I'm
about everything and I just I just I just am so scared and upset and I don't and I don't understand why people didn't voted for this person I mean how sad is that it's not only Trump derangement syndrome I think there is a huge swath of the left in this country that is profoundly mentally unstable
And I think, sadly, the media that they consume has fueled their instability. That woman has never listened to the Clay and Buck show. I guarantee you that woman is not listening to Fox News.
That woman is marinating in the New York Times, the Washington Post, both of which I read this morning because I want to know what their worldview is to better understand and comprehend the arguments that they make. They don't consume our content. They don't even see the counter argument.
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telling a reporter how scared she was, wondering how anyone could have voted for Trump. I voted for Trump. Most of you out there listening to us voted for Trump. I don't know that you would find very many Trump voters crying in the streets if Kamala had won. Now, the country would have been in a really difficult spot. It's hard for me to even think about how awful things would be if Kamala had won, but we just had to go through it with Joe Biden.
And I thought surely they're going to come up with a new line of attack. I will say no kings is better programming than no oligarchs because most people didn't know what oligarchs were. And no fascists because most people don't really understand what fascism is. People at least understand what a king is. But Representative Eric Swalwell, the congressman from California who slept with a Chinese spy...
Not even a very good-looking Chinese spy, by the way. No offense to Feng Feng, but he didn't even get a good-looking Chinese spy. They didn't even have to bring in the Victoria's Secret-looking Chinese spy to get Swalwell to sleep with her. Here he is saying Trump's Hitler. Donald Trump is America's Hitler. Can you imagine being that sad?
You went to a protest to hear the same argument made for 10 years. You know, it's been 10 years since Trump came down the escalator. The Trump era has only increased in his popularity. The amount of votes that he has gotten has continued to rise. We've had a decade.
The rise of Adolf Hitler, I can't believe that this is the argument that they are going to be making. And I want to circle back to what I was saying about the two different worldviews that are embedded in the protest and or the celebrations that we saw over the course of the weekend. Really, no, kings and the military protest should have been one big celebration.
Because the only reason we don't have kings is because of the colonial army. And I'm here in D.C. and I was thinking about that because the left is so broken. I went to George Washington University. It's just they gave me a scholarship. I graduated in three years. That's why I went there. It's a largely rich kid's school. I think it's like $80,000 a year. That is just down the street from the White House. And...
In the last few years, in the wake of George Floyd, the students at George Washington University decided that they needed to protest. And what they demanded was that the colonial mascot be taken off of the university. George Washington Colonials, when I was there, they decided that this is all real. This is not made up. They decided that the colonials...
actually reminded them too much of colonialism and colonization, and so they demanded that the mascot be changed. Now, intelligent, I was a history major, intelligent adults should have set down these moron kids, and they should have said, hey, kids, we were actually the colonies. The colonial army was fighting back against the colonizer.
Just because the names sound somewhat familiar, you're actually demanding the change of a name that reflects an army that fought against the colonizers. The heroes of your worldview are actually the colonial army. Now, I don't know why adults aren't willing to sit down with moron kids and point this out. I would be happy to do it. I was a history major at GW.
Instead, they changed the name to the revolutionaries. It doesn't make any sense, but it is, I think, the foundational element here of a bastardization of history and an inability to understand history that leads us to the No Kings March, which is occurring in opposition to an army celebratory march that
which actually had people dressed up as members of the colonial army who ensured that we were not going to be ruled by kings. One of the lessons of history is if you don't know it, you can get manipulated in a significant way. And these kids are paying $80,000 a year to go to GW, and they are demanding that the colonial moniker be pulled away. And it's not coincidental that the university...
listen to the morons, change the name to revolutionaries. And then within about a year and a half, two years of changing the name of the mascot, the campus was taken over by anti-Israel protesters. All of this is connected. It's important to recognize how we get to where we are. It's often a progression. If you destroy history,
If you destroy our knowledge of history and you make everybody have the memory of a goldfish, then you can actually end up with millions of people in this country showing up thinking they're on the right side of history, arguing for no kings, while Trump is actually celebrating the fact that we don't have kings by having people dressed up as colonial soldiers march down Constitution Avenue.
And they're out there arguing that this is an example of fascism, Hitlerian in nature, and this is where American democracy dies. They have so lost the plot that they're actually arguing in favor of the same thing that the march is, but they're not intelligent enough to make that connection. And they've moved from...
Trump is never going to leave office to I don't even know what their argument is now. And I think it's why it's continuing to fail. But I tie this all back in with the way I started off the program. And I really do think that this is important.
Air and Space Museum. I just want to lay out these numbers and I want you to think about it. 1903, Orville and Wilbur Wright create the airplane. 1927, Charles Lindbergh becomes a huge celebrity for flying across the Atlantic without stopping. 1969, we walk on the face of the moon. Since then, we really haven't progressed in our exploration.
Until now, Elon Musk is potentially, I think he's going to do it. I think he's going to put a man on Mars. And I think it's going to accelerate our age of exploration in a way that has not occurred, frankly, for multiple generations. I think Trump sees that.
I think it's connected in, even though he's criticized for it, when Trump talks about Greenland or Canada or the Panama Canal, he's actually thinking about America in an expansionist, exploratory concept that is not fixed in place. It's not static.
The American dream is continuing to expand, and he's thinking about our country in the way that American leaders used to as one where we're constantly advancing and exploring new lands and bringing new freedoms. And I think it's connected to the way that he's handled Iran. Top of the next hour, I'm going to talk all about Iran and why I think the people out there who are criticizing President Trump over Iran, and there's a lot of them on the right,
Many of them you may listen to, you may read. I don't have any problem with the marketplace of ideas. Anybody out there, some of you may have seen me arguing over the weekend with Mark Cuban, owner of the Dallas Mavericks. He came after me. People can attack me all they want. That's the marketplace of ideas. I actually talked to my kids about this. Technology can be good, except if your dad or your mom happens to have a public profile
They can just type in your name on Google and there's tons of articles that come up. It's probably not going to shock you. Sometimes people don't really like me. And I've been talking about this with my kids for years. I think it's been healthy for them. I said, look, even when they're five or six years old, I said, you guys can get on the internet. Now I've got two teenagers. They're obviously on the internet quite a bit. 10 year olds on the internet too. They only get their news by the way, from YouTube and Tik TOK, which is its own crazy worldview to think about. Um,
But I said, you guys got a good choice now. You can listen to what people on the Internet say about your dad, good or bad. There's lots of good out there. There's lots of bad. You have a public profile. That happens. I said, or you can decide what you think about your dad based entirely on the fact that you see me every day as your dad and you live with me. Who do you think knows dad better?
You guys who actually live in the house with me or people writing about me on the Internet. And I think that's a good lesson in general for all of us about public persona, about public perception. We build 20 foot tall stories of what we think about people and they're often six inches deep. The media can be powerful in that way. They're like big paper mache creatures. They're not steel.
Oh, that's 100 feet tall. Oh, Donald Trump, he's Hitler. And then you actually explore it and you push through and you're like, man, that's a mirage. There's not even any substance behind it. I think that's the world in which we live and that's why, and I'm thinking about this a lot because I was working on my book over the weekend too. It's going to be out in November. That's why I think authenticity is all that really matters in modern day.
Because the younger a kid is with YouTube, with TikTok, with everything else they experience, they're not expecting to agree with everything. They just want to know that you are an authentic version of what you claim to be. Authenticity cancels cancel culture. You can't cancel people who are what you think they are.
And that's where I feel protected. I met a lot of different people over the weekend as we were going around to these different events. I'm really not any different face-to-face than I am on the radio with you or on television with you. There is no difference between what I would say or think for better or worse and what I would say on the radio. It makes it hard to cancel me.
And I think it's what Trump has determined and why his overall support has grown, particularly among young people, not because they agree with everything he says. You should never agree with everything any politician says should never happen. But you should respect that the politician is being honest with you about what he or she believes. And as soon as you find out that they are not, as soon as you know that you are being directly lied to, you should trust that person less.
And we are filled our political universe with people who are just weird, not normal liars. And a huge number of those people, not just on the left, but a huge number of them are. There's lots of people on the right with that perspective too.
But I think that is why Trump has grown his support over the decades since he came down the escalator. Because with young people, they've grown up with Trump and he is what he puts forward in public to a large extent if you actually listen to what he says.
and pay attention to what he does as opposed to allowing other people to characterize what he does and says. Nobody has ever been more transparent or more open in my life with the media than Trump. We'll talk about that. We'll take some of your calls, by the way.
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By the way, as we close up the first hour here, 800-282-2882. If you want to weigh in on any of the topics we're discussing today after a very news-filled weekend, top of the next hour, I'm going to tell you the latest.
on what is going on in Israel. And producer Ali just told me that we were scheduled to have the speaker of the Knesset, that is basically the Congress of Israel, Amir Ohana, was going to join us live. But instead, he has had to cancel because of...
war-related issues and he's going to join us later this week uh we will dive into that and uh and give you the absolute latest on it i did want to mention the shooting that happened in minneapolis they uh caught the guy they caught him late last night the uh alleged assassin killer and
Certainly, this comes on the heels of a lot of different acts of violence. We could run through an entire litany. I was reading the New York Times this morning, and I saw that Amy Coney Barrett, this spring, that her sister...
received a note saying, I've constructed a pipe bomb, which I recently placed in Amy Coney Barrett's sister's mailbox at her home. This guy said, free Palestine at the end of it. Super detailed. Don't engage in acts of violence.
I know we have said this for four straight years. There are people that you agree with. There are people that you disagree with. I've had to deal with this. We've had to have private security at my home because death threats have been mailed to my home. I had to sit down with my kids and explain this. We had people parked outside of the house throughout the course of the election season. We're moving now.
Because my wife has been so concerned about all the threats that we've gotten because of the things that I say to an entirely protected neighborhood where we're going to have armed security all the time and other people who are in the public eye will be living in this neighborhood where we are. Don't do it.
If you are listening to me right now and you are in any way considering an act of violence based on something that somebody has said or something that someone has done, you are the bad guy.
You are the bad guy. Doesn't matter whether you're Democrat, Republican, Independent. I think this has to be hammered home. Certainly we have seen a lot of left-wing violence of late. The media doesn't cover it as much. We know that if there's anyone on the right who engages in active violence, media will cover it on the front page.
for days or weeks or months or even years as we saw in the case of Jan 6th. But do not engage in any acts of violence for any motivated reason at all. On this show, we try not to name a lot of the individuals who do this because I do think
that that motivates them a great deal. So please do not engage in acts of violence. Control yourselves. Use your voice in a constructive manner, not violent ones. We come back the absolute latest on the Middle East.
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