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2025/5/23
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Ronny Chieng: 作为主持人,我认为特朗普政府签署了大量行政命令,因为这比通过法律容易得多。共和党人将他们的整个议程塞进了一项巨大的法案中,这项法案被称为“大美法案”,但我觉得这个名字很愚蠢。这项法案延长了总统在2017年签署的税收减免政策,但这需要通过削减医疗补助和社会安全网(例如食品券)来实现,这对于穷人来说非常刻薄。为了让法案通过,特朗普甚至通过威胁和辱骂来推动。此外,该法案还取消了枪支消音器的注册费,这让我质疑降低消音器的购买成本有什么好处,难道是为了让枪击案发生时,其他教室可以继续上课吗? Big Beautiful Bill: 作为“大美法案”本身,我感到很沮丧,因为民主党人说我丑陋,而且我会让700万贫困和残疾美国人失去医疗补助。我想要被批准,被爱,并且把我认为不应该获得食物的人踢出食品券计划。我只想做我自己,活出我的真相,但我无法改变我自己,我还会剥夺跨性别者的医疗保健。我甚至觉得我们应该把穷人扔进熔炉里来为人工智能提供动力。

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Ronny Chieng discusses the controversial "Big Beautiful Bill," highlighting its significant tax cuts funded by cuts to Medicaid and food stamps. The bill also includes a reduction in firearm silencer registration fees, sparking criticism from Democrats. A comedic segment features the bill personified, expressing its feelings about the negative reactions.
  • House Republicans passed a bill including 4 trillion in tax cuts
  • The bill is funded in part by cuts to Medicaid and food stamps
  • The bill includes a reduction in firearm silencer registration fees

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- Yeah, Michelle! I'm Ron Chang. We've got so much to talk about tonight. A piece of legislation gets body shamed, Medicaid's being taken to a farm upstate, and good news, the government's giving out free vacations to South Sudan. So, let's get into the headlines.

President Trump has signed a record number of executive orders since he became president, which makes sense. It's a lot easier than passing laws. I mean, to pass the law, you got to write a bill, then you got to pass it through the House, and then the Senate, and then checks and balances, and founding fathers, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's a lot easier to just declare shit, all right? Gummy bears are vegetables now. Done. Done.

But don't forget, Congress is still doing things. They're not just sitting around waiting to die. Well, I mean, they're doing that, but they're also doing other things. Um, so last night, House Republicans packed their entire agenda into one enormous bill that's over 1,000 pages long. The question is, what do you call an enormous bill that crams together every single Republican issue? One big, beautiful bill. I'd like to name it that, if you can. LAUGHTER

Really? Big Beautiful Bill? That's the best you could come up with? It's a stupid name. Okay? Also, that's what Jordan Hudson calls Bill Belichick. The point is, nobody is going to go along with that. President Trump's so-called Big Beautiful Bill. One Big Beautiful Bill. Trump's Big Beautiful Bill.

My God, I guess they are gonna go along with it. It's a big, beautiful bill. The BBB. Although it is reminding some people of something else. Even if you're getting excitement from Capitol Hill and the White House over the BBL, that, um, big, beautiful bill. Sorry. Share your screen right now. Right now, share it, or this interview is over.

I love how flustered he got after that. It's the BBL. Oh, sorry, sorry, I mean butts. I mean, I'm sorry, I mean, I mean big juicy asses. Now, for those who don't know, a BBL stands for Brazilian butt lift. It is a procedure that some women get to enlarge their posteriors. And it's quite popular with Instagram ass models, or so I'm told.

I wouldn't know because my For You page is nothing but photos of my beautiful wife. I love you, baby. I would never follow 17 female golfers with huge asses online. This is the one show this year my wife actually came to. She's... She's watching this right now.

But after months of negotiating last night, Republicans stayed up all night and passed the big, beautiful bill. And maybe BBL was a better name because this bill is thick and mostly ass. Here's what's in it. It extends the president's signature 2017 tax cuts

And that's at a cost of about $4 trillion. And that's paid for in part by nearly $700 billion in cuts to Medicaid, that health care program for those on the lower end of the income scale. It also comes with cuts to social safety nets, like food stamps. Wow, cutting health care and food stamps to pay for tax cuts. I mean, the only way this could be more cartoonishly mean to poor people is if it said Bob Cratchit has to work on Christmas Day.

He's just a frog. Why does he have to work at all? But this vote was very controversial, even among Republicans, who didn't like how he increased the debt by $4 trillion. Do you realize how much money $4 trillion is? No, you don't, because none of it went to education.

The point is, some Republicans were resisting this bill. So to get it passed, Donald Trump needed to use all of his political powers of persuasion. Trump made the rare journey to the Hill. The meeting was housed Republicans behind closed doors for 90 minutes for what he says was just a pep talk. He called out members by name. He threw the F-bomb.

around. I have seen time and time again, they're dragged out of the House floor and back into the Republican members' cloakroom, and they're handed a cell phone, and it's Donald Trump literally yelling at them and cursing at them. Politics used to be deals and handshakes and pass my bill and I'll do something for you. Now Trump is just like, pass my bill or I'll kill you. I'll kill you and I'll get your wife. Yeah.

But look, the bill isn't just about taking health care from poor people to give rich people tax cuts. I'm sure there's something in there for the rest of you. Some provisions tucked into the bill. One of them eliminates the $200 firearm registration fee for gun silencers. Yeah, uh... Let's see, that was added by, uh, Rhode Island representative John Wick? Huh.

What's the benefit of making it slightly cheaper to buy silencers? I mean, is there an assassin out there who's like, hey, I got my shot lined up, but first let me call my accountant to see how this affects my deductions. I mean, maybe it's better if silencers are more affordable. Now when a mass shooter is going through a classroom, the other classrooms can keep learning.

As you can imagine, though, Democrats are not fans of the big, beautiful bill, and they're ready to roast it with some slam poetry. It is not one big, beautiful bill. It's a big, beautiful bill.

billionaires bankroll bill. It's a big disgraceful betrayal of the American people. This bill is brutal. It is not beautiful. I just don't see what Republicans find beautiful about this ugly bill. It's not beautiful, it's ugly. It has wrinkles, warts, festering sores, and scars.

Okay, uh, we get it, but that's a little too specific. Sounds like you're describing something personal. This bill is gross and weird and has a mole with hair growing out of it and it's changing color. I'm talking about the bill. But should-should it see a doctor? Should it see a doctor, just hypothetically speaking? For more on the reaction to the Big Beautiful Bill, let's go live to Washington, where I'm being told we actually have the Big Beautiful Bill itself.

Bill, you just passed the House. Why are you upset? What's wrong? What's wrong? What's right, Ronnie? You heard all the mean things the Democrats said about me, calling me ugly, wrinkly, and yeah, I have warts, but HPV is extremely common. And why? Why? Just because I'd kick 7 million poor and disabled Americans off Medicaid? Uh, I mean, that's not great. Oh, like you're so perfect.

This was supposed to be my special day. Call me crazy, I want to be approved. And loved and kicked people off food stamps who I think don't deserve food. Okay, well that is kind of an ugly thing to do. Oh my god, ugly? Ronnie, maybe I should just go to my room, lock the door and veto myself. Is that what you want? Would that make you happy? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't do that. It's so hard being a Bill.

Like, being talked about, being voted on, people treating me like I'm an object. You are an object. All I'm trying to do is be myself. Just live my truth.

and take healthcare away from trans people. - Okay, what? That's in this bill? Holy shit. - I can't change who I am. - That's not true, okay? Everyone can change. I mean, maybe we can make you beautiful. Maybe add some healthcare subsidies, money for children. - Oh, kids? I don't know. - Okay, well, let's start with something smaller then. How about you, I don't know, maybe try taking off your glasses.

Wow, wow, yeah, see? And maybe tussle your hair a little? Wow, maybe you can be beautiful. Hey, you know what? Why don't you tell me three things you like about yourself? I'm fun. I'm cute. And I hate poor people.

We should throw them into furnaces to power AI. Okay, no. No, you ruined it. You're hideous. I hate you, Ronnie. I'm going to the Senate. All right, the big, beautiful bill, everyone. When we come back, we go to South Sudan, so don't go away.

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Welcome back to The Daily Show. If you're mad that President Trump is deporting immigrants back to their home country without due process, well, calm down. He's also deporting them to other countries without due process. The Trump administration is accused of violating another court order on immigration by putting eight migrants on a plane from Texas. Immigration attorneys say they were deported to South Sudan, which is a war-torn country where the State Department advises Americans not to travel.

Wow, South Sudan. The only place more depressing than South Sudan is Madison Square Garden. That's a last night's Knicks game, all right? For the internet, we lost. So these deportations might seem cruel to some and legally dubious to others, but that's why the Trump administration released this video to show you that they can be also exciting and cool. ♪♪

Deportation rocks! Hail Satan! You know, that's the funny thing about being a musician. I mean, one minute you think you're going to be the next Jimi Hendrix, and the next minute your songs are being used in a video titled Gestapo Hype Reel 3.0.

But if you would prefer not to be deported to heavy metal, you can always leave on your own. And in fact, if you self-deport, Trump will sweeten the deal. - The Department of Homeland Security conducting its first self-deport operation called Project Homecoming. 64 illegal immigrants making the choice to self-deport back to their home countries. - Officials handed out food and children's toys for each ride, and each person was given a $1,000 stipend for their cooperation.

What? $1,000 and a sack lunch for self-deporting? What idiot would take that offer? What stupid... Ahem! This idiot! Ahem!

Hello, Ronnie. Al Madrigal? Wait, Al, you self-deported? But you're a citizen. I know, but that's how cool those videos looked. I mean, I got $1,000. Meow, meow! And this sweet bag lunch. Meow, meow!

$1,000 is not that much money, okay? It's not gonna get you very far. Maybe not in New York City, but $1,000 in what looks like South Sudan? I am living large. Okay, yeah, but you're in South Sudan. Oh, I'm sorry. What was that? I got a little distracted by my gratis Capri Sun. Fruit punch, best flavor. And check it out.

They even froze a Go-Gurt. Right? Thank you, DHS. Ronnie, you gotta get down here, man. I'm not going down there, okay? And I think you're focusing on the wrong thing here. You're right. I should be focusing on this cuddly stuffed animal. Right? I named him Baby Foo Foo. Oh.

What's that, baby foo-foo? Ronnie's an idiot for not taking a thousand bucks and the sweet bag lunch? Ow, enough about the lunch, okay? There's a reason Kristi Noem isn't talking about what happened to these people. The countries they're being sent to are really dangerous. Okay, don't worry. I bought myself a gun, which there's tons of, because it turns out we funded a civil war here. And I bought myself a hut with a guest hut, all right?

And I still got 950 bucks. We are going to party when you get here, man. Al, I'm not going to South Sudan. Uh, sure you are, because I gave your name to ICE. Wait, what? Why? Why would you do that? Well, they have a refer-a-friend program. You see...

I turn you in, I get a second Capri Sun. You know what? Hold on a second. Some guys are approaching. Must be my new neighbors. Hey, what's up, fellas? Cooling machetes. What are you doing to my camera? Just me! Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Ow, ow. Ow, are you okay? Can you hear me? Ow, try stabbing them with a Capri Sun straw. Oh, my God. Ow. Ow.

Oh, you're back. What happened? Ronnie, the DHS failed to mention they have warlords here. They took everything. They took your money? Even worse, they took baby Foo Foo. He was just a baby. Luckily, I was able to hide my go-gurt where no one's ever going to find it. I'll explain when you get here. I'm not going there.

It's in my butt, Ronnie. South Sudan's Al Madrigal, everybody. When we come back, Don Staley will be joining me on the show, so don't go away.

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Again, genesight.com for more information and to move forward on your journey to mental wellness. Welcome back to The Daily Show. My guest tonight is a basketball legend and head coach of the University of South Carolina's women's basketball team. Her new memoir is called Uncommon Favor. Please welcome the legendary Dawn Staley. Thank you. Thank you.

The New York City standing ovation. I gave it to you. - I'm honored. - Yeah, three time Olympic gold medalist as a player and you won a gold medal as a coach, a champion in playing at college and coaching at college. You are undoubtedly a basketball expert. So did you watch the Knicks game last night?

- I did, I attended for half of it and then I beat the crowd out and ended up watching it in my hotel room. - Okay, well you left at the right time because I just wanna ask you about end game situations here. When you have 30 seconds or less left on the clock and your team is down by three, do you foul to send the other team to the free throw line or not?

You definitely foul. You foul? Yeah. I would argue you don't foul because then if the other team scores a three, worst case scenario, you play D, they score a three, you're tied, you get the ball back, you have possession, and you can shoot for the last shot. I would say I'm going to extend the time. Time is not on your side. So if you foul with 30 seconds, there's a lot of time left in order for you to play that cat and mouse game. Oh, sorry. I'm saying if your team is...

Is up? Sorry, it's my bad. Your team is up by three. Sorry, yeah. Your team's up by three. There's less than 24 seconds left. NBA rules. NBA rules, so the advancement after timeouts and all that. If your team is up by three, would you foul? No, because I believe in my defense.

Okay, well, someone should have told the Knicks that. Because they... They filed... They were up by three. They filed. They sent the other team to a free throw line. The other team scored two, and then they got the ball. The team filed them. Anyway. But what happened was an anomaly. Like, the probability of... Of the Knicks losing is not an anomaly. No, the Knicks...

That happens quite a lot, actually. Nixon 6. Nixon 6? Okay, good. Sorry, I cut you off. What do you mean it's not an anomaly? What do you mean? That doesn't happen very often where you got a 17-point lead and you lose it. No, it does not happen. So I probably...

Probably would have been fouling the guy that was banging like five threes. I would not have let him get threes off. Oh, yeah. But that guy was. He was going out of control. He was shooting like... Anomaly. Like, yeah, that doesn't happen. He scored like 12 points in like a minute. He did. Which is...

Only the Knicks could let that happen. The other thing I want to ask you is sometimes I watch a lot of NBA basketball and like compared to college basketball. And one thing I found was like the rule enforcement is a lot different in the NBA. You know, for example, even traveling calls or moving screens. You know, it kind of one of my things with basketball is so weird whenever in the NBA, they never call a moving screen for anything.

You know? I mean, I don't know. Is that... They did last night. Sure. Yeah. But in your opinion, is this like... Is this just, okay, we just got to play this game now where screens are whatever they are? Defenses are smart. So it's more of the defense is actually acting smart.

Because the only thing you have to do is fall. If someone sets a hard screen on you or somewhat illegal screen, if you just put your body, make contact and fall, more than likely they want to call it. Okay. They want to call that call. Right. And it's an objective call.

So you don't have a problem with the moving screen, the way-- Well, I'm going to say this. When you're playing against a really tough offensive player, you're trying to create an edge. So if they're coming off of screens and I don't think I can get back into play, I'm going to fake a foul. OK. I'm going to run into the screener and fall. OK.

And try to get a call? Try, because they're going to score because I can't get back in front. Okay. Well, this is interesting. Also, we just lost like 80% of the crowd because this is... These guys are like political nerds, so they don't know. I find this very interesting, but I guess no one else... No one else even knows what we're talking about.

But, like, on the topic of being a championship coach, if you had to tell the Knicks something after a loss like that where you were up by 17... No, but, like, what would you tell your team to, like, get them for game two? You know what I mean? Um, I mean, there's really no motivating. You're in the Eastern Conference Finals.

It is. You're at home. You still have an advantage. Like, when the home team loses, then it becomes a really good series. I do think the Knicks is the better team, right? I do think they'll win game two. They'll probably lose game three. Win game four. Wait, hang on. Let me write this down. Yeah, go ahead. Write it down.

I'll make some money on this. What do you think is the point spread on game two? You think they're going to win? Yeah, in six. Great. But you wouldn't even tell them anything because they're professionals. You're like, you guys are pros. You guys get motivation. You're the Eastern Conference Finals. There's no kind of locker room moment where you're like, come on, guys. No, the loss itself is embarrassing and they know what to do.

So you're going and saying that. I would because at this stage of the game, if they drop another one, then they're done. Right. But this is an interesting coaching philosophy that less is more almost. For me, less is more. Like, you actually have to know the pulse of your team. You have to look and see what they look like, what they sound like after that game. Right.

And you can probably look at the press conferences and hear what they're saying. And if they're saying, we let our foot off the gas, it's an anomaly, you know, we got this. I mean, they're up 17 with seven minutes left. Like, you're supposed to win that game. And if they put themselves in a position where they're up 17 in any other game, they're going to win. Sure.

And this idea of coaching sometimes less is more in terms of motivating and coaching. I mean, reading your book, you talk about the '96 Olympics where

I mean, fair to say your coach was pretty hard on you in '96. So I don't think that Tara, the coach-- - I learned from her. - Oh, was she also less is more? 'Cause it seems like you said-- - No, no, she was more is more. So I went the opposite, but still, we win. - Sure, you adopted a philosophy. Why do you think that happened? 'Cause you had a very tough coach at the '96 Olympics where you won the gold medal.

And then you becoming a coach, you kind of went away from that philosophy a little bit. Like, why do you think that? So I'm equally as tough, but I'm more of I'm a communicator. I'm going to let you know it's going to be tough.

And I'm gonna keep letting you know it's gonna be tough. So I condition you to know it's gonna be tough. So it's not necessarily the team not liking me because I don't think we liked her during the process. Like my team likes me. Like they really understand what I'm trying to get them to accomplish. So we do it together.

She pretty much separated herself from us and just kind of just pounded on us. And we just like... And it was strategic because she wanted us to come together as a team. And all of our anger and frustration was against her. And whereas I want my team with me, we're doing this together, but it's hard. Sure. Sure. And obviously you've proven your philosophy to be somewhat correct in that way. And that... You know... Um...

So, also, I mean, in basketball, there's this thing now where I guess analytics came in and there's this drive towards efficiency of the game, which has led to kind of almost like basketball by robots in some ways. Everyone kind of shoots the same. Everyone plays the same. We're shooting threes, you know, and it's this drive towards efficiency, which...

I think it's pretty clear that it is working. The efficiency is working. Points are higher than ever before. But it's kind of like losing a bit of the individual...

characteristics of individual players. You know, like, there's no more people doing sky hooks. There's no more Kevin McHale's kind of low-cost games. No more mid-range. Mid-range is gone. It's threes or layups. Right, threes or layups. And it definitely takes away the creativity of individual play. Like, we can't do that on a collegiate level. Some teams can do it, and they put themselves in a position to win, but I've never seen anybody win championships. They win a lot of basketball games, but...

Bottom line, you need to win championships. So if a person is really efficient in the mid-range,

The NBA analytics don't say take that shot because overall mid-range shots are obsolete at this point because you're better off taking a three-pointer trying to get an advantage over a two-point, of course. But I allow our players to play free and take the types of shots that they practice. Right, so you personally don't...

No, no. You know, we had a guy that was so much in the analytics, and he was like, this is what the last national championship teams looked like. This, this, this, this. And we didn't look like any of them, our team. We ended up winning in 2017, not looking like what the analytically correct teams, national championship teams, look like. So I was like, okay, so you're saying if we do this, it's an automatic win.

And I'm like, no, it's not an automatic win because the players have to have to actually perform, not the numbers. And the numbers are part of it is just part of the game. But they're not the absolute. You told the nurse to shut the up and get out of the locker room. We're going to win this game without your stupid numbers. And as a as a coach, like when you look at players, how you draw the line between like

having a killer instinct as a player and being a good teammate. Because I think sometimes in culture, we really kind of like put on a pedestal this idea of I'm going to win at all costs as a player, as a human being, like I don't care about anything but winning. And we kind of glorify that a bit in America. And I wonder if you can shed any light in terms of like, is that an actual, is that correct? Or is that a balance between being a good teammate and being an individual kind of player?

Well, I think all human beings, we are creatures of habit, right? And, you know, you know what your habit is. I know what my habit is. My teammates, my players know what their habit is. My habit is missing shots. Right. So you would be a good teammate on the bench. Right. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I got. Yeah.

But you also have to allow people to be who they are. And you have to condition people to accept you for who you are. Like, if you have a hothead player on your team, you gotta give them the space to be a hothead, right? Give them that space. And then at some point you gotta cut it off because it's impacting everybody else. If you got somebody that's quiet and they don't like to be yelled at,

Then you got to walk up to them and whisper in their ear and curse them out. Not in front of everybody, not in front of the entire team, because they just don't take in information that way. So you as a coach, you got to figure out each and every person and condition them. They're conditioning you to how they take in information and how they like to be coached. And in turn, you're giving them how you like to coach and you have to meet. You got to meet them where they are.

But you wouldn't say every coach would adopt that philosophy. No, it's their way or the highway. Right. And so you, I guess... That's why we thrive in this space because we're meeting players where they are and their entire families. And that's why you're winning. Yes, I think that contributes to winning. And...

So what do you think about this, the NIL rules in college basketball right now, where your players are getting paid for their likeness, I guess? Yes. You know, not getting paid by the school, but for external sponsorship? Not yet. It's coming. Sure. And how do you feel about college athletes and pay? I think it's great. I especially think it's great for women, because women are thriving in this space. Like...

I think companies are realizing that women are top consumers around the world and now that they want women to be brand ambassadors for their companies. And I just feel like women's basketball has been held back for so long that now that we're in demand and popular...

We're reaping the benefits in the NIL space. I will say there really has to be control over the amount of times that players can transfer. Because you can go to four schools in four years.

and still not graduate. Not at South Carolina, though. - Okay. Is that... And that's bad? - I think that's bad. - Okay, okay. - I think that's bad, but you can also go to four schools and get more money at each school each year. - Okay. - So that's good for the individual. - Sure. So you think that's probably an area to look at in terms of... - Yes. I think the NCAA needs to do something about the... Just transfer whenever you...

Whenever things don't go your way or you want more money. Right. And I do want to talk about this book a little bit. I read it. I have to say it reads...

Like you wrote it. As in the way the dialogue is written is very like, oh, this was you putting your thoughts in there. It's me. Everything. Do you feel the cover? The back cover? Yeah, it's got the basketball. Basketball, yeah. That probably costs like 20 bucks. Knowing what I know about publishing, that jacket is, yeah. But I want to ask you about one story you're telling here is about how you...

you got heart disease and you coached through it to win a championship like a crazy person. Right, right. Can you explain why that's probably not a good idea for normal people to...

Yeah, I got diagnosed with pericarditis. Don't ask me, like, how. Sounds delicious. Right? I went to the best doctor in the country, which is at Cleveland Clinic. He told me that I need to sit down and have a coffee, he said. Sit down, have a coffee. And I'm out coaching. This is...

We got a great team. We got an opportunity to win a national championship. He was like, if you don't sit down and just have a cup of coffee, you're going to need open heart surgery. Yeah, so I was like...

okay, but let me see if I can do this. I couldn't get my heart rate up because pericarditis is just the inflammation of the lining of your heart. So even when it pumps fast, it's not going to get the inflammation. It never heals. It takes years. When he said that, you just set a hot screen on him and...

I thought he was nuts though like I don't think he really understood you know what and then he started me he saw me coach right and then he's like oh I saw you out there coaching and that's probably something that you shouldn't be doing sure and and then I said we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna be tranquil after the season so after the season I got better and then I started doing yoga and then it went I healed quicker than normal

But you won a championship with heart disease, basically. Yes. And no open-heart surgery. Yes. Okay. Yes. Um... Anyone watching this, do not do that. Listen to your doctors.

But, Don, thanks so much for joining me on the show. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. Thank you for winning Medals for America. And thank you for teaching the next generation. And thanks for joining me on this show. I really appreciate it. It's John Staley, everybody. Uncommon Favor is available now. John Staley. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back after this. Thanks for joining me. We'll be right back.

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