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This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stukas Podcast. All right, at some point, I want to get to Jalen Brown and his issues with USA Basketball and his issues with Nike.

But before that, I want to continue on this football conversation because there was a Joe Burrow tweet yesterday that I talked about a lot on my show. And Pablo was a guest on my show. And we spent a lot of time on it. It was right. Oh, Charlie, are you going to make fun of me? Dominique Fox for a show coming out Friday. Watch it on ESPN2 at 2 p.m. or get it wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah.

Hate I hate shilling it just public or finds out no available where? Anyway, I'm never asked to be a guest on your show

I would love to have you as a guest on the show. It would be awesome, especially when we have topics like this. And this might be a preview of one of the times when you're going to be on my show because I think this is an interesting conversation because it leads us right into CBA negotiations conversation. The NFL is going after 18-game schedule at some point. When I was...

union leader for football. They presented 18 games to us. We said it was a non-starter. Eventually, it got taken off the table. And then in the last CBA negotiations, they popped up to 17 games with the intention of going to 18 games soon. And so, as the NFL is like any other business, they're always looking to increase revenue and grow. You can't go backwards. The easiest way to increase revenue is...

add another game. You can grow globally. You can try to get more American fans. You can raise your prices. But the easiest thing to do is sell another property. And they are attempting to do that to make more money. So Joe Burrow sent out a tweet essentially saying, 18 game schedule. We better get a second bye week. I don't remember the exact words of the tweet, but correct me if I mischaracterized it. Well, I think he also said some stuff on video, which we could watch.

How many games are we playing? You tell me. 18. 18? Gotta have two bi-weeks. I like that. And I think it'd be cool to do a normal bi-week schedule that it is now. Like, have it spread out. But then, like, week...

13 do like the Pro Bowl break where you're doing like the seven on seven and all the skills challenges like that, like the NBA does, because I think that would get more ratings for the Pro Bowl. Yes. And then it would also give everybody that bye week going into like the last six games. The interesting thing about that is one of the challenges when I was a union leader in both football and basketball and probably even more pronounced in basketball is when

there is a delineation in the ownership ranks and there's one in the players' ranks too. And that delineation in basketball is like, all right, there are some obvious superstar players. And their interests sometimes align more with management than they do with the rank and file players, which creates some challenges in negotiation. And in football, it's kind of like there are quarterbacks and the quarterbacks view themselves as a little different than the rest of the players, right?

And when I went to basketball, I was like, all right, there's a whole lot of quarterbacks in this league.

So having Joe Burrow say something like that sounds like the league talking. You got to lock that up for the union. You cannot have that happen because what management does is they look at that and they say, fantastic. We are not giving anything in a trade. They already know they're going to 18. We're going to give them the second bye week. They're planning what they will want when we give this new ruling to them. The game, an entire new game is enormous.

enormous bargaining chip. And the reason why this is a little problematic, and there's plenty of time before they get to CBA negotiations, so the dynamics can change, but I'll let you behind the curtain a little bit in our negotiations, is one of the tools that you use and the league used against us, and we tried to use against them, is to talk about how impossible it's going to be to sell this deal to your membership.

And so Roger Goodell would come into our CBA negotiations, and then when he'd leave, he would suggest to us, like, I could try. I'll try to get them to buy this, but it's going to be so hard. And then when he inevitably came back and –

conceded in some way, it would make us feel like we really got something. And we would do the same thing. It's like, look, Roger, I get it. I get it. I understand what you're looking for. But can you imagine me in a room full of players trying to explain, trying to get them to buy onto this? I think the other thing with this too is that the way this is all being said is that he's like, Joe Burrow's putting himself as like a

on the side of the fans so that when the players inevitably try to fight adding another game, it's going to be really easy for the owners to be like, look at these big, bad NFL players. How awesome would it be to have this midseason Pro Bowl and two bye weeks and all these things that all the fans want? Like they're just being stubborn and they're in the way. I think both sides already know the deal's cut.

And the CBA is going to get opened before it expires. There'll be 18 games well before the new CBA. So 2030? I think this happens before 2030. We're only in 24 right now. Well, I can tell you that both sides don't believe the deal is already cut.

I think the negotiations have not happened. And that's the reason why this is problematic is because this changes the negotiation dynamics. But the trial balloons have been sent. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's have the Super Bowl during President's weekend. I think you're right in that 18 games feels very likely right now. But getting to that 18 games, the price feels like it's going down. What it's going to cost...

The league feels like it's getting cheaper and cheaper because the point that I was making before is it does not seem like as much of a big deal. And the problem, the reason why Joe Burrow being a quarterback matters is the challenging thing about this is the price is

For the extra week, it's going to be paid disproportionately by players who will not benefit nearly as well from the increased revenue as somebody like Joe Burrow. When the CBA goes up, when the salary cap goes up, the quarterbacks every year, like clockwork, get a bigger percentage of the CBA or a bigger percentage of the salary cap, which is a really tough place because I think Joe Burrow feels...

honestly, as someone who's been injured a lot, so it's funny to hear him say that, feels honestly like those increases are worth an extra bye week. Whereas I, as a player, would be like, oh, no, a whole other football game? That's going to cost you guys 2%, 3%, 4% off of the revenue. And Joe is presenting like, oh, it's going to cost us an extra bye week.

Well, I would just like you to do the math. That's all we ever wanted the players to do was to figure out, okay, we're going to do a game. We're going to take away a preseason game, which means that owners will get X more in season ticket revenue. Then we're going to sell the extra week to the broadcasters. And so players, you get 50% of the revenue, maybe 51, 52, whatever the percentage is. So in the bargaining table, I think that if you were presented with a spreadsheet,

on a spreadsheet, here's what we get by doing an 18th game, and here's what you get. You're getting half. If that's shown to you, it will accrue to the benefit of all members of the union. It doesn't accrue to the benefit of the players proportionally, is one point. But nothing ever does. Nothing ever. No game you ever make ever does. I understand that.

But I'm saying that's what makes it more difficult to sell because the players know that. And I would also point out to you that why that's hard is having never played football. I think it's really difficult, particularly given the CTE information that we gain year after year. That money does not seem nearly as valuable to us as it does to you. And then when having that conversation, like, all right, we're going to play an extra game.

So we get half of that, you get half of that. You aren't playing an extra game. Like, that's what makes these negotiations difficult because it's like, you deserve half for what? Because you hit a switch? How does the PA do damage control from something like this? Yeah, so it's not really damage control as much as it's... Because once it's done, it's done. I think the way that you do damage control is stick to whatever your plan is for preparing for negotiations. And I think the way that you prepare for negotiations is...

I think oftentimes people believe negotiations are like what you imagine

happens in TV where it's like, if you can bluff in the room. Negotiations don't take place in the room. Negotiations take place years before you get in the room. You're able to negotiate whatever you want based on the leverage that you create in the years leading up to the negotiations, which is why maintaining a posture that adding another football game is absurdly dangerous and risky and something we would never consider

is negotiations. So there's no damage control now. All you can try to do is make sure that people know, and it's possible that this could be a benefit because this is an opportunity to have a conversation with the rest of the players. And maybe the players will be appalled because I would be appalled if I was a player and I heard a quarterback say, oh yeah, another game. Just gives them an extra bye week.

and I thought about what this actually meant for his pockets and not mine and his head injuries and not mine, I would be like, "What?" And that could galvanize a group. So I think that the way you do damage control is this noun gives you a talking point. When you go visit all the teams, you're like, "Look, this was said, but we need to be clear

That this is hurting us getting forward. Anything that is said going forward about this is about how it's not something that we would want to consider. And we need to do research about how this is going to impact us and what we can get back. So what's funny to me beyond the fact that you and David have been negotiating the CBA in front of everybody is that we are also hearing, Dominique, you say that part of how you organize a disparate bunch of players with different incentives

is to acknowledge that there is a subset inside of that group that has the most different influences

That quarterbacks actually should not be considered rank and file. You need to see them as a different category. I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that they see themselves as a different category. And inevitably, they all learn that they're not any different than us. So it happened with Drew Brees. He was heavily involved in the union in part because he learned after he got an injury that they don't care about you. And at some point, all the quarterbacks learn at some point they don't care about you. So understanding that you are part of us...

And we don't necessarily talk about the divisions as much as we find a common enemy. That's what it is. It's like, all right, I know your life is different. I know your life is different. But you know who's standing in the way of making your life better? That guy. So let's not worry about this.

pointing directly at David. I mean, even outside of the NFL when we were unionizing at previous jobs that I've had, there are employees that make exorbitant salaries that are not even just like close to management, like literally friends with management. And you're trying to get them to be on the same page as people that really do need a salary increase or some sort of like job protection. And

It's more difficult to convince those people sometimes that they're actually more like the person making $50,000 a year than their boss because they feel like everything's going pretty well for me. I don't really need any of this stuff until management tries to then impose something on them because there is a difference and they realize like, oh, this is actually affecting me now. That's how the quarterbacks are. They're making more than their boss.

It's in your instance. You're talking about GMs? Yeah, I'm talking about owners as the boss.

So in your example, I assumed you were not talking about boss, you were owner, you were talking about management. C-suite level management. C-suite, yeah. Executive level. So there are often employees who make more money, like players. Players make more money than the team presidents. Honestly, that could be true for a few people, but we were never able to see what management made. We were only able to see what the non-management employees made. So I don't know that to be true, but...

In a lot of cases, it would be an outlier for a writer to get paid more than the head of the company. It's not uncommon in sports for the players to make more than just about every single employee. I promise you that is the case. I understand what you're saying, but those employees don't matter. We don't negotiate against them. The people that we're negotiating against own billion-dollar companies that go up by hundreds of millions of dollars in value every decade. So, like...

those are not the people we're negotiating with. Like, it's the, yeah. It doesn't cost the coach money for the players to have better benefits. And also, could they not just start their own union? It does, actually, because dollars are fungible. And so when an owner, when they look at a CBA, they look at who's getting the allocation of money. Right.

and that's why then there are decreases in certain positions. - Yes, dollars are fungible, but there is enough money that the funge of the dollars doesn't have to come from the coaches. It can come from somewhere else. It can come from the ownership's pocket. - It never does. - I understand that. - But it could. - It could if you have leverage to create it. - Every single company you do business with, Apple could lower the price of its MacBook Pro and iPhone. There's no doubt, and if anybody would take a pay cut,

Anybody in the C-suite level will take a pay cut. They can lower the unit price. They're not going to do it. This is the exact reason why we have unions, because there are certain groups in society that control things and have more power and leverage. And the only way that you can extract any value, the only reason why players are getting paid the way they get paid now is because they unionize. And in any other industry... No, because you have a skill that other...

that customers will pay to watch. No, no, no. That is not why they get paid. You just made the point, David. That is why you get paid. Because broadcasters will pay because people will watch the games. They want to see you play, not Pablo. I understand that, David. What the hell? Sorry, man. Listen, David, David, David, David, David, David. That's why the NFL makes billions of dollars.

The reason why the players get paid a lot of money is because they told the NFL, we will not play if you do not pay us the right amount of money. It's not because we're super valuable. It's because we were strong enough at certain points to win in court and the same thing with other sports to challenge them and tell them that you won't have this special valuable thing if you don't fairly compensate it.

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The court, at least in baseball, is much more about free agency and about movement and about having choice. We're in theory outside of sports. But Dominic, I would just like, I understand you're getting frustrated. No, I mean, I don't want you to, but the union, you would get paid the same. You were the one who talked about decertified and disbanding the union as a possible strategy to deal with what exists in football right now.

And I'm telling you that if you decertify, disband, or whatever you do, your percentage of revenue that players get isn't gonna change. - Okay, so David, my point is, you said it was about the court cases and strikes. - You said court cases. - No, I agree, court cases worked in our sports and strikes worked in other sports. But those were in order to get free agency and you said to get choice. - That's right. - It was prior to that,

We did not have choice. And so if you do not have choice and a monopsony exists, which means that there is one buyer in the market, then you have nowhere else to take your services. Then you will not get paid. Hold on. I got to take my drinks. As per the Dominique Foxworth drinking game, you said monopsony. I love that word.

The majority of the people in your union do not have a choice. Guys, do you remember how we lost game two? Do you remember how we lost game two? This is a semantic argument that doesn't matter. We need to get to the part where Dominique wins the argument before we cut it off. I mean... I mean, he kind of already has. Yeah, I mean... He did. I...

The point is, David. David learned so much. I mean. Gladiator game. You guys are right. Combat sport, not a contact sport. Graffitiing the church of football. Anteceptic cathedral of football. I'm not excited for Gladiator 2. And to the point where I won't watch the trailer. Oh. Oh, you missed out. Did everyone else watch it? We'll see if they cancel the movie. There's a rhino in it.

A guy rides a rhinoceros into the Coliseum. How are you not excited for it? Did you like that one? Loved. So why would you not be excited? Ryan Sandberg's in it?

We got the trailer going right now. Good one. It's a good one. Wait. Yeah, that's the guy from After Sun. No, David, look away. We're showing the trailer. You said you won't watch it. Paul Mezcal. You scab. He won't watch it with sound. Oh, Denzel's in it? I'm in. I'm in.

Denzel said it, I'm in. With the Caesar fade? Do you not worry always? A first Caesar right next to Caesar? When you say The Godfather 2, people would argue it's better than Godfather 1. Incredible. But how many sequels would you say are better than the original? Shook Ones 2. That's right about that. Shout out 13%. There are some latter Spider-Men that I enjoyed more than the earlier Spider-Men.

- Madame Web, for example. - That was so bad. - It was terrible. - So bad, and I didn't stop watching because of my idiot theory that once I start a movie, I won't stop.

That was a candidate. He was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died, Jess. Which wasn't even in the movie. The kindest thing I can say, it was under two hours. So it ended up not being that big of a waste of my time. The Carter 2. Another sequel better than the original. The Carter 3, even better. Carter 4. They get better and better, boy. I kind of think Carter 2 is the best one. I like Rocky 2 better than Rocky. Carter 3 is the best one for sure.

I gotta stick with the snack on this one. I don't like ties. What's the top mixtape? I'll give you a minute. I don't want to drop it on you right now. Drought 3. Drought 3? Okay. Drought 3 double disc deluxe. I hate that I had to give up on that argument with Dominique so quickly. We can go back to it, man. I think it was a good conversation. I just felt like it was... Dominique. The thing is that Dominique is from the first... That's Dominique. Why do you have a rhino and not have it gore someone?

I'm hoping it's charging at someone. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You seen it? You got a sneak preview? Nah, just we're watching. They're still playing the trailer here. I'm hoping in the full thing, Billy, I'm hoping there's a gourd. Yeah, there has to be. There's blood. It's the first rule of movies. I'm a simple man. You don't show the gun unless it's going to shoot. You don't show the horn. There's blood on that horn. It gored someone. It's already been gored. Yeah, but no. Here we go. See? Just a bump. Just a bump.

I guess you can't show a goring on television. Is that rhino running mesh? Frank Gore. That rhino's not a rhino. I wonder whether Dan's seen any rhinos. Probably. It's hard. Those are the seven. That's one of the big seven. I thought it was a big five. I thought it was a big three. See, they keep changing the number of teams and conferences. I think they do that with animals, too. On Safari. I think it says big three, but really they say there's five. Today was a good day.

Are we winning today? We still need a game five. You think we need a game five? Well, the tough thing about game five is we got a lot of unavailable players for game five. I asked Pablo and I'll ask you now. I prefer you. Y'all not paying me for this. Getting out of here. All I'm getting is occasionally get to plug my show. Right, Charlie? What's your show? Dominique Foxworth Show. Get it wherever you get your podcasts. New episode coming out Friday. Also on ESPN2 at 2 p.m. And who's in the new episode?

- What? - Pavlo. - Oh, nice. - How does that happen? - How does what happen? - Pavlo is great, he did a great job on our show. - No, no, I agree, but-- - Pavlo Torre finds out, available in your pockets. - I couldn't have felt worse yesterday when I had done nothing personal, I come in here, we do a great show, we win yesterday. It's a win, and I'm packing up at the end, and you're all saying, like, at the cool table, all right, we got a bunch of shows left, I'm gonna be on your show, you're gonna be on my show, and you guys are all coordinating what you're all doing together,

and I'm going to my room to watch a movie and get ready for my show the next day. I felt so left out, I can't even tell you. - I mean, I've,

That's true. And this is me telling you the truth. I apologize. I apologize because I owe you a home and home because that time when I was on your show, when you invited me on your show, when that happened. Just made me feel. Oh, boy. Never. Has that happened? Oh. No, it had not happened. Never. Because I do my show solo, but I would like to do a sit down with you, of course. Well, if you're not into the group thing, then you don't have to be the group thing. Whatever. It's a big glove chair. I mean, you both can. David wants to have you on a show. He just wants it to be over very quickly. Yeah.

But I want you to feel pleasure while it's happening. You don't want me on your show. You have me on your show, I'll be on, I mean, yeah, you can be on my show. I've never been on Dominique's show either. I've never been on anybody's show. I've been on your show, God Bless Football. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah.

Yeah, I've never been invited to God bless football. Do you want to? Always. What do you want to talk about? Yeah, that is absolutely not true. You disparage football offseason talk at any point. No, I get jealous when we don't talk any baseball when we should be. This is baseball's moment.

But God bless football could do a baseball segment. There's a new baseball segment here. That's a different show, though, Dave. That's God bless baseball. Don't we have a new baseball show here? We do. Are we? Jer-Bear. Yeah, Jer-Bear has a whole thing. Where'd Jer-Bear go? He was supposed to be here. Hibernating. And then I don't know whether he was with twigs and berries up his gerold. What? Huh? I think I got it wrong. Grundle? Damn.

I don't think you could go up with that. Twig and berries where? That's what bears do to hibernate. I know what David's getting at. That's a hundred... Do you? Oh! Bears have a thing where they will clog their buttholes by eating things that are very hard to digest. And so they can hibernate and not poop. Have to go to the bathroom. While asleep, I guess. And you're...

And you're mad about whiteboard NFL talk. Yeah. Okay. Just making sure. It's called a fecal plug. This is something that people don't know. Also, Pablo's teaching right now. He's not just jargoning. You're welcome. Do you know what happens when the hibernation ends? Do you know what you should never do? Ever be near a bear when the hibernation ends. I've seen SpongeBob. Because what comes out, it ain't great. When do you want to be near a bear then?

While it's hibernating. Oh. Because you're fine. You just have to time it right. But then what if you wake it up, though? You cannot. You can't wake up a sleeping bear. Do not. That's where the expression comes from. Or at the scouting combine. Don't poke a sleeping bear. Caleb Williams crushed it. He did. And Roma Dunze. Excited for that duo. Favorite bears. It should be fun. Twigs and berries in the grundle. Sam Hartman's getting a lot of FaceTime on hard knocks, by the way. That's not what the grundle is. As he should. So have you...

Jess, have you changed your feelings about the Giants? Are you optimistic about them? Because you seem to be the only one who's really committed on this hard knock. I don't think I'm optimistic about them, but I like what I'm seeing. I think that the Saquon offseason storyline made them a really good subject for...

This show. Saquon was sassy. It's so edited. You're seeing exactly what they want you to see? Of course it is. It's edited, scripted. I'm sure that they're doing takes to make sure that they get stuff that they want to show you. But I like it. Are you guys worried that they're doing too much with Hard Knocks? Because before it was just Hard Knocks. Then it was in-season Hard Knocks. Now there's off-season Hard Knocks. And then this season's Hard Knocks is just focused on a division. I love that one, though.

I'm locked in on that one. I'm excited for that one. It just feels like too many spin-offs. This show made me want my own team to have its own heart box. I like that we here are complaining about too many shows.

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Thursday Thunder. That's right. It's time for Thursday Thunder, and it's sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Thursday Thunder, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back. Juju. I got to make up for it. I've been on the losing streak, Daddy. I've been getting two in a row for like two out of three for the last umpteen weeks in a row. So we're going to try to right the ship today.

Today I'm going to the WNBA, of course. The New York Liberty are taking on me and Jessica's Chicago Sky. We have to talk about that. Big Camila, big Mia Cardoso, 8.5 rebounds they have her on. I think she's going to go over 8.5 rebounds today against New York Liberty. Pablo, you got that look in your eyes. What you think, bro?

That sounds like a great pick, Juju. Thank you, brother. I'm going to stay in the same game, brother. Ja'Quayle Jones, a.k.a. Jay Jizzle, a.k.a. Double J. They got her at 9.5 rebounds. It's kind of a rebound late today. You know what I mean? I think she's going to go over those 9.5 rebounds. The last couple of games, she's had 11. She's had 12.

She's had 11 again, I think today because they played the sky earlier in the season and got they ass spanked. So I think that the Liberty will come in there with a little more vigor today and nine and a half rebounds seems delicious for Jonquell Jizzle. Moving on to my Atlanta Braves tonight against the Arizona Diamondbacks. Thunder noise, I thought.

You feel me? First inning, .5 runs. They say, is it going to go over or is it going to go under? I think we have aces on both mounds tonight, and they will be under .5 runs scored tonight, daddies. Ladies and gentlemen, Camila Cardoso, John Quayle Jones, under first inning. Back to you, Bob. Way to go.

Don't forget about the mommies. We got a lot of advice for the daddies. Mommies can get their money, too. Salute to the mommies and the days of the world. It's such a funny one to go under a half a run in the first inning because it feels like, hey, who scores in the first inning? And then all of a sudden Max Fried gives up. Until you bet it. One solo jack. The leadoff by Jazz.

And before you know it, you're over. And of course, if you do the over, you're like, come on, man. One run. Clip it. That's a different segment. That's come on, man. Pablo's still getting hate on the internet. I...

He's so distracted. That's why we're losing the game. Because he's been during... I'm having a hard time keeping him focused. Yeah, you're doing a great job. You know he has one eye on leaving. Yeah, he does. Which is what happens on the final game. It's why closeout games are so hard. Getaway day. Getaway day is the worst. They're trying to get over it fast. Pablo's tired, grumpy. He had that long dinner with that Pulitzer Prize winning guy. Can we keep Charlie, by the way? Nah.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Watch out. What you doing? Funny you should ask. What you doing, Jess?

I, what? You've just started something very bad. Stop it. Stop it right now. You can't take my man. Why is it bad? Because we were thinking as a business to potentially do a hostile takeover of Charlie. I will fight. Like, okay. I do a lot of fun and laughing and bits. You had a great Frank Gore joke before.

I will fight. I will stab all of you with the plastic, with the wooden knives. As a beautiful swan, whoever offers me the most gluten-free guava cupcakes will get my services. And one extra dollar. That's right.

All you can guava eat up in D.C. Why are we doing this? This is not funny. I don't like this at all. I just like sitting by Charlie. That's all I'm saying. He's a delight. He's great. He's nice. You are my friend. Please. He watches tennis. Don't ruin my life. Vibes are super high right now. Don't ruin my life. We went to dinner while Pablo big-timed us for Don Vanetta. Who big-timed Pablo? Wait, who else had dinner last night? It was a few nights ago, but. We went to dinner. We went to dinner.

We went to dinner the first night. Did you go back to Carbone for real last night? Uh, yeah. So you did a double bone this week. How was your second bone?

It's fine. I've had no bones this week. You had a bone. Oh, I did have a bone. What are you talking about? Forgot about my bone. It was fun. Who gets invited to what dinner is obviously a very political thing around here. I feel like all you guys, though, go home and we remain in this vicinity. That's why I felt bad for Charlie. So I was like, I should get him out of the Elser for five minutes and invited him to come where I live. Great. Why are you doxing Jess? Weep that out.

Yeah. What was the address again? You still want them? You still want them? Do you want to just give us any sort of GPS information? What's the room do you live in? Thank you. My man back. Good job, Charlie. Way to undercut it. Listen, he forgot the microphone was on. He was so comfortable with Jess. He's become part of the team. He forgot people were listening to this.

Just like Pablo yesterday when he decided to shit on all the NFL analysts that he likes. Segway, way to go. They're still after him. I'm sorry, Pablo. Although you love it. I didn't think I had this kind of power. So that's not really power. Good spin. Well, clearly. Good spin. Clearly. It's Pablo's spin. It is. Clearly.

you know, what's that phrase about hollering and dogs? - Hit dog, go and holler. - I feel like that may be happening here. - Oh, a lot of hit dogs out there. - I'm just saying, I didn't even think this was gonna be a thing, and then a lot of people said, this is a thing, so. - How good are you at knowing things before they're things? Do you have a good thing radar? - Turns out, turns out worse than I thought. - No, but did you think that you were good at the thing radar? - Yes. - And this is the first proof that you may have a blind spot.

This is early, early indication that the people that I inadvertently insulted maybe were anticipating that someone would say this at some point. And I did not think I would be the first. Like, has no one else told you guys this? That's the thought that I've been having. How am I the one person to start this conversation? You're not. I think it's you. This really is more about you than what you said. So it is about my power. It's not your power. It's your POV.

And I think that's what people are far more responding to is we didn't expect to hear that out of you. Out of someone else, you know, we're not even going to get into it. It won't be a thing. I will say that the most unsettling sensation I felt all week is David Sampson explaining to me a blind spot. Because I think he's probably right. Takes one to know one. Are you ready to back off of your point and say you were wrong? No, I'm not. He's not, not yet. Not yet. What are we doing? I'm weak.

Nice try, though. I'll try to help you. We have some time. He's trying to help you, Pablo, the way he's helped me all week. He's trying to help you. He's been offering this. He's been giving you a silver platter and you're still not biting. That's because he loves the attention. I think he's worse than I am. He loves the attention. Fight or two, why banana mother f***ers? Billy, sorry. It's unreal. Pablo, this happens all the time and I don't know why. It doesn't add value. Speaking of blind spots, can we talk about Jadur Sanders? Yes.

Can we talk about somebody who has been saying things that have been intended to be inflammatory and that have started a conversation at a part of the sports calendar where we could use someone saying something that sounds like this. Video team, assemble. Activate. Wonder Twin Powers. Form of. I'm going to sit here. A pal. Shape of. You don't know this? In terms of him operating with a certain obligation, does that...

Toto flow over to you as his son and be in the spotlight as you just answered that it's a different level and how you feel you have to perform. Do you have an obligation to perform at a different level? It's been that since day one. I remember first media day when I was in HBCU, I said, well, we won't lose a game.

I'm undefeated in the SWAC. So I already know what the expectation comes with. I know where everybody's Super Bowl. So I'm really just, I always stay level-headed, stay grounded because I just, I would never want to be that guy, look back, and not being able to take advantage of the moment that we have right now. God bless this family.

They're in no substantive way relevant to what we should be talking about in college football as a matter of who's actually good as a team. And yet they keep on making them lead stories in any given news cycle. It's really appreciated. Why is that a story? Because Shadur Sanders has this... It's interesting, right? So Colorado is not a good basketball team. Not a good football team. Shadur Sanders, though, is the top quarterback by lots of...

film nerds analysis metrics metrics video games NCAA 25 he's the number one quarterback Deion Sanders for whatever it's worth says that Shador Sanders and Travis Hunter the two-way quarterback receiver that he has uh they could be the top two picks in the upcoming draft Dominique and so it's just it's just credible enough for us to have an argument about what does it mean when someone says when they play us we're their Super Bowl

He's right. Not to cut you off. It means that the ratings for a Colorado State game that's at 10 o'clock at night are going to be somehow through the roof. So I actually think that he's right. Can we... I don't know if we have to run the whole video again, but I just want to appreciate...

That man has perfected a condescending stare at the beginning. Look at the down his nose. Just the look back at this point. Yeah, go ahead and roll that. We could talk over it, I guess. We don't need the audio. I don't know if you can do that. But look at that. Look, that's the one right there. Like,

Oh, you? That's how Pablo is on the receiving end of these film nerds right now. That's how they're looking at Pablo, and it makes Pablo feel small. Dominique, you know you look that way to everybody all the time. No, I don't. Right there. You just did it now. What? He just did it right now. I can't help it. I'm black. What? Don't get into a race thing. It's not a race thing. Huh, David? It's not a race thing. What was that phrase about dogs and hollering?

Condescension is not about race. Who are you calling a dog, Pablo? Charlie, it's disappointing. Do you deal with this every day? Every day. I'm mob ho. I think the fact that... I want to knock a buck. Excuse me? We're saving that segment for later. Don't say that. That felt prosecutable.

I feel like we have enough evidence from yesterday's show that we can cut it up and defend my man. He did not mean it. He wants every month. Yeah, we talked about Nuck if you buck yesterday. Oh, it's Nuck if you buck. Nuck history. My mob hoe. He's coachable, but he's still not learning quite as much. There's so much that's going on this week. I can't wait to the commercial break. I guess not commercial break, but to the end of this segment so I can explain to David how...

how dangerous that sentence just was. He's just going to offer to, you know, dib you.

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